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Title: Fireworks
Post by: Russian on July 04, 2007, 12:56:57 AM
(http://x52.xanga.com/160d832054132132981155/s97149459.jpg)


Since I'm not in communist republic of Kalifornia, I can actually get some nice toys that make big 'boom'

That case with a sticker price of 330$, I got for 100$ and split price cost in half with a friend. Also we got two boxes of M150s.... tomorrow (today) is going to be fun evening.


Anyone else is going to make personal display of 'freedom' ?
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Masherbrum on July 04, 2007, 01:55:57 AM
Just be careful.   <> Russian.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: texasmom on July 04, 2007, 02:19:57 AM
I've got three sons. They're fully loaded.  They like 4th of July even better than Christmas. :D
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Sundowner on July 04, 2007, 06:10:30 AM
Have fun with those, R.:aok

But be careful.

Woman dies in fireworks accident as family watches

 MELVINDALE, Michigan (AP) -- A powerful firework exploded in the face of a woman trying to set it off, killing her as her fiance and 8-year-old son watched, police said.

Danialle Barse, 27, was unfamiliar with the commercial-grade aerial firework she was using Monday night, said Mike Welch, a police detective in this Detroit suburb.

"She basically killed herself in front her children and her fiance," Welch said.

Barse and another woman were trying to set off a 3-inch mortar bomb in the parking lot of the car wash where Barse worked when it went off as she had her head over it, Welch said.

 One round hit the Lincoln Park woman, while the other 25 mortars continued to explode in sequence, keeping rescuers at bay, Welch said.

"The bombs were still going off as I ran up to try and drag her out of the way," witness Jason Dobrovalski told WDIV-TV. "But after I'd seen what had happened, I just ran back to try to save myself because it was too late...."

Full Article:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/04/fireworks.death.ap/index.html

Yes, yes I know it was commercial-grade aerial firework but still, be carefull.

Most of all have fun!

Regards,
Sun
Title: Fireworks
Post by: eskimo2 on July 04, 2007, 07:06:11 AM
I sold this stuff for 11 years; put myself and many friends through college.  Here’s the biggest stand that my brother and I built (he still owns it):

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/496168602_ce3708dc5f_o.jpg)

I’ve also worked on many class B shows.  The one show that really stands out had a bunch of screwed up shells 3” & 4” that were bursting at 10 ~ 20 feet.  That basically puts the shooter right in the middle of one of those big chrysanthemums that you typically see way high.  BTW, working a show isn’t nearly as fun as it sounds; you don’t get to see a thing and you spend a heck of a lot of time digging holes.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Sundowner on July 04, 2007, 06:31:38 PM
Cool photo and story, eskimo.:aok

Regards,
Sun
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Spikes on July 04, 2007, 07:31:30 PM
pfff....for the 4th, my uncle brought home some 1/4 sticks of Dynamite from his base. And we have over $500 in fireworks :D
Title: Fireworks
Post by: McFarland on July 04, 2007, 09:55:52 PM
You guys go the expensive way, when me cousin was alive, we used our own home made hand grenades and smoke bombs, and we used M-80s and full dynamite sticks. We also had bottle rocket wars, and we threw black cats at each other, all while watching a bon fire the size of two cars. We had fun. Sometimes we buy fireworks, but only when we want show, usually we are fine with "BOOOM BOOM BOOOOOM" and watching craters form.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: McFarland on July 04, 2007, 09:57:22 PM
And remember, fireworks are not dangerous explosives, they are nice toys. They won't hurt you if you are not stupid.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Curval on July 04, 2007, 10:16:11 PM
Sorry eskimo..but that place needs some fuel and a match.  I don't think it could be louder and more hideous.  I'm happy it got you and others through school...but my goodness me.
Title: Our Fireworks Show
Post by: texasmom on July 04, 2007, 10:19:57 PM
After 6 years, I still think this is a little peculiar (and will always think it's unsafe), but it's growing on me a little.

Everyone in our town, and surrounding towns park along both sides of the highways and in the median each 4th of July to watch the fireworks show which the military base displays.

Then as you're leaving (driving through the crowd), there is a constant stream of fireworks from each side along the drive.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: RAIDER14 on July 04, 2007, 11:57:04 PM
M80+Watermelon= fun:D :aok

If you have ever been to a WWE event the fireworks there are impressive
Title: Fireworks
Post by: eskimo2 on July 05, 2007, 07:33:52 AM
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Originally posted by Curval
Sorry eskimo..but that place needs some fuel and a match.  I don't think it could be louder and more hideous.  I'm happy it got you and others through school...but my goodness me.


LOL  And that looks tame compared to our ads.  We had a super up-beat song and lots of clip transitions, text, fireworks in our TV ads; the radio ads we almost as obnoxious.  I think every Alaskan found them inescapable since they were played on every TV station and a lot of radio stations, and often.  People would walk up to our stand singing the song.  We also would have 3 – 6 high school kids dancing in gorilla suits stationed at strategic places.  We hired airplanes to tow banners, would have several bright 8’ tethered balloons, one big 20’ tall gorilla balloon and a bunch of other stuff that I’ve probably forgotten about.  Our other stand would give away free elephant rides with every purchase; I think they do pony rides now and have one of those big inflatable slides.  Carnival/zoo atmosphere is the way to go to sell this stuff.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: lazs2 on July 05, 2007, 08:01:11 AM
Yep...  here in kalifornia we can't have any fireworks....

"for our own good".

There are many on this board who would agree with the state...  that playing with fireworks is "stupid risky behavior"  words like darwin get throw around.. talk of how much brain dead fireworks shooters lying in hospitals with no insurance cost us..

It is as bad as not wearing seatbelts or not having airbags for the shower.

I guess we get what we deserve... we elect women and womenly men and then wonder why we are treated like 10 year olds again.

lazs
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Angus on July 05, 2007, 08:10:03 AM
Well at least you can have some guns :D
(we can have fireworks. oh yeah :D)
Title: Fireworks
Post by: lazs2 on July 05, 2007, 08:51:11 AM
so angus.. fireworks are ok?    even if a few people get killed or inured once in a while with em?

lazs
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Sandman on July 05, 2007, 11:27:43 AM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
Yep...  here in kalifornia we can't have any fireworks....

"for our own good".

There are many on this board who would agree with the state...  that playing with fireworks is "stupid risky behavior"  words like darwin get throw around.. talk of how much brain dead fireworks shooters lying in hospitals with no insurance cost us..

It is as bad as not wearing seatbelts or not having airbags for the shower.

I guess we get what we deserve... we elect women and womenly men and then wonder why we are treated like 10 year olds again.

lazs


Let's just forget about that whole wildfire thing... It's not really a problem.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Hornet33 on July 05, 2007, 11:45:19 AM
Geez Lazs you sure do like to take everything to the extreme don't you?? Be carefull with your reply....BIG BROTHER is watching YOU!!!!!!:rofl
Title: Fireworks
Post by: BiGBMAW on July 05, 2007, 12:01:14 PM
some counties in Cali ..are Ok to have ...Safe-Sane Firworks..

I had a sweet display that i wired myself ..uisng Crakle whips as fuses..worked very well

The "safe-saens" are getting much better each year...

We arent allowed to buy anything that leaves the ground..or has large explosions..small ones ok..

Not to say you cant go to China town and get anything you want..mortars..rokets Multi rokt boxes..ect...err thats what i heard ; )


thsi was last night...crappy pic..my dogs dotn get bothered by firewroks!!..my new dog Zephyr the Destoyer  a mini dacshund  a rare Isabella colored..Same as weimerwaners  hes 8 months..does not even shake...I would take him to the shooting range ..he would sleep in my car at 4-5 months....got to start them young with guns : )

(http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4864/cimg5723mw3.jpg)

(http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/4092/cimg4343gv6.jpg)
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Curval on July 05, 2007, 12:02:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by eskimo2
LOL  And that looks tame compared to our ads.  We had a super up-beat song and lots of clip transitions, text, fireworks in our TV ads; the radio ads we almost as obnoxious.  I think every Alaskan found them inescapable since they were played on every TV station and a lot of radio stations, and often.  People would walk up to our stand singing the song.  We also would have 3 – 6 high school kids dancing in gorilla suits stationed at strategic places.  We hired airplanes to tow banners, would have several bright 8’ tethered balloons, one big 20’ tall gorilla balloon and a bunch of other stuff that I’ve probably forgotten about.  Our other stand would give away free elephant rides with every purchase; I think they do pony rides now and have one of those big inflatable slides.  Carnival/zoo atmosphere is the way to go to sell this stuff.


hehe

In Alaska too?  Mother Nature is going to be at heaven's gate waiting for you and your brother so that she can spank both of your bottoms for putting up that abortion in such a beautiful place.

;)
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Banzzai on July 05, 2007, 12:15:14 PM
Quote
Originally posted by McFarland
And remember, fireworks are not dangerous explosives, they are nice toys.





(http://www.gva.be/dossiers/-e/enschede/img/enschedeknal.jpg)

i diasagree with you on that one ask my insurance company
Title: Fireworks
Post by: eskimo2 on July 05, 2007, 02:17:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Curval
hehe

In Alaska too?  Mother Nature is going to be at heaven's gate waiting for you and your brother so that she can spank both of your bottoms for putting up that abortion in such a beautiful place.

;)


Most folks in the lower 48 cannot conceive Alaska’s size, resources, population density.  I’m sure that living in Bermuda makes it even harder to comprehend.  Bermuda’s population density is nearly 3,000 times that of Alaska.  Heck, Bermuda’s population density is about 20 times that of Anchorage alone!  Last year as much area of Alaska burned down to equal 20 times the area of Bermuda; in 2004 the area that burned was 500 times the size of Burmuda.  No matter what people do to Alaska, the vast, vast majority is absolutely untouched frontier.  Alaska still is what the Western Frontier was to America in the 1800’s.

:)
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Curval on July 05, 2007, 02:25:29 PM
Quote
Originally posted by eskimo2
Last year as much area of Alaska burned down to equal 20 times the area of Bermuda; in 2004 the area that burned was 500 times the size of Burmuda.


All that fire and yet that "thing" you call a stand got missed?  Darn shame.

;)

The cheesiest kitchy areas of Niagra Falls look like Beverly Hills compared to that.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: lazs2 on July 05, 2007, 02:34:02 PM
ahh.. so then.. we can't have fireworks because of the fire risk?

how is blowing up M80's in the street a fire risk?

lazs
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Russian on July 05, 2007, 03:00:22 PM
(http://x20.xanga.com/4aed767175231133438130/w97539253.jpg)

:cool:  I used evil fireworks and world didn't come to an end! No fires or casualties. :aok
Title: Fireworks
Post by: kamilyun on July 05, 2007, 03:01:54 PM
I could care less about the safety issues or wild fire risk.  I just hate the fokkers who set that crap off at 3 am in the morning.

Read on CNN where a couple of people got shot (Wash and Ohio?) for setting off fireworks late at night.

I totally sympathize with the shooters.  I'd accept a defense of 'temporary insanity' after trying to sleep through that crap last night.  I had dreams of sniper rifles...
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Seagoon on July 05, 2007, 03:09:17 PM
When I was a kid we used to have Roman Candle fights and fire bottle rockets at one another bazooka-style using the tubes from the inside of wrapping paper. Add to that fun with the old "flaming tennis ball pipe gun" and all I can say is I'm blessed to have escaped childhood without needing skin grafts.

These days I live in NC where all we are allowed are sparklers and the lame "fountain" style fireworks.  This was the first year I bought no fireworks at all as the legal ones are boring and expensive, and we don't have money to waste at present. The SC border is 1.5 hours away, so we had a lot of illegal rockets, M-80s, firecrackers going off all around us anyway.

- SEAGOON
Title: Fireworks
Post by: straffo on July 05, 2007, 03:09:54 PM
BGB you bid bastige took a blurry shot of a girl looking to be pretty my taste !

I hate you (nothing really new ;))
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Sandman on July 05, 2007, 03:12:44 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
ahh.. so then.. we can't have fireworks because of the fire risk?

how is blowing up M80's in the street a fire risk?

lazs


M-80s are illegal in every state. Have been since 1966.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: RAIDER14 on July 05, 2007, 03:24:46 PM
Quote
Originally posted by kamilyun
I could care less about the safety issues or wild fire risk.  I just hate the fokkers who set that crap off at 3 am in the morning.

Read on CNN where a couple of people got shot (Wash and Ohio?) for setting off fireworks late at night.

I totally sympathize with the shooters.  I'd accept a defense of 'temporary insanity' after trying to sleep through that crap last night.  I had dreams of sniper rifles...


I set off  5 M80s  in sequence(10 seconds apart) at   4am:D

saw some neighbors lights turn on.....
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Seagoon on July 05, 2007, 03:37:30 PM
Quote
Originally posted by RAIDER14
I set off  5 M80s  in sequence(10 seconds apart) at   4am:D

saw some neighbors lights turn on.....


Wow, that's almost as much fun and good times as late-night gunfire exchanges from the trailer park two blocks away. Those of us with infants and small children who don't go back to sleep when woken up early in the morning by loud scary noises, and are a big barrel of cranky-whineyness when overtired as a result, want to thank you for your love and neighborliness and hope you had a good time at our expense.   :aok

- SEAGOON
Title: Fireworks
Post by: lazs2 on July 06, 2007, 09:47:53 AM
sandie.. so fireworks are a fire risk everywhere in kalifornia?    firecrackers and such?

we are being protected from hurting ourselves?

lazs
Title: Fireworks
Post by: tedrbr on July 06, 2007, 12:04:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by kamilyun
I could care less about the safety issues or wild fire risk.  I just hate the fokkers who set that crap off at 3 am in the morning.

Read on CNN where a couple of people got shot (Wash and Ohio?) for setting off fireworks late at night.


I can relate to that.  Usually starts a few days before the fourth, and goes on for a few days AFTER the fourth.  What really gets me are the totally random "pops" at irregular intervals, or those from passing cars full of punk kids running around town lighting them off.  Oh to have a claymore set up along the road!

Fireworks don't do anything for me anymore.  20 years as a Combat Engineer and tours in Iraq... played with shocktube and MDI, crater charges, C4, planar wave front demolitions for breeching charges, primacord, claymore, MICLICS, Bangalores (and field expedient bangalores from wire pickets), blocks of TNT.... I've blown up munitions bunkers, old artillery rounds, bridges, and water-towers (old mining towers all across PA as part of Guard mission),.... in country I've watched MRLS's light off, airstrikes, and a full arty battery conduct a fire mission (bloody impressive at night too when you can see both firing point and impact point -- "radio hill" the place to be on FOB Victory/Liberty for that one!) and heavy use of  illumination flares (from both sides).  

"Pop....whizzzzzz" just don't excite me.  
Still have the recipe for RDX around here somewhere if I ever get the itch I suppose.

And they are just plain stupid out here in Colorado as hot and dry as it gets in the summer.  All the fire departments been kept busy this year.  As if we didn't have enough problems with lightning.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Sandman on July 06, 2007, 12:14:40 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
sandie.. so fireworks are a fire risk everywhere in kalifornia?    firecrackers and such?

we are being protected from hurting ourselves?

lazs


M80s were banned as part of the Child Protection Act.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: DiabloTX on July 06, 2007, 12:38:09 PM
There was one time when some friends of mine and I had one of those M80's so we used it to demolish an ant bed.  We pushed it down into the center of the bed a lit it off, running for our lives.  When we looked back the bed was about 40 feet away with this dark, swirling blue smoke coming out of it.  "Oh damn, we bought a smoke bomb by mistake."  So we all went back to the ant bed and watched as brilliant blue, then white, then red smoke waifted out from the hole we'd made.

[size=10]BLAM!!!!![/size]

The thing blew up with us looking down on the ant bed not 4 feet away from it.  Ants went ****ing everywhere!  We all yelled and instinctively ran away.  When we stopped to see what had happened the ringing in our ears was so loud our conversation went something like,
"What the hell happened?!"
"Huh?"
"What the hell happened?!"
"WHAT????"
"Jeez, someone say something!"
"I can't hear you!"
"whoopee that was fun, let's do it again!"
"Huh!?!"

Ahh, the good ole days!


:D
Title: Fireworks
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on July 06, 2007, 01:17:58 PM
in another 5 years californians will be setting plastic devices that flash and make sounds.

happy 4th!

oh look, another corparation owned holliday.

pass it up and just goto work.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: eskimo2 on July 06, 2007, 01:36:28 PM
A off duty firefighter up north in Cleveland got ticked at his neighbors for shooting off fireworks past midnight on the fourth.  His solution?  He shot 5 of them; 3 are dead.
Title: Re: Fireworks
Post by: Sandman on July 06, 2007, 03:55:45 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Russian
(http://x52.xanga.com/160d832054132132981155/s97149459.jpg)


Ahem... that pool looks like it could use some attention. ;)
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Curval on July 06, 2007, 04:27:56 PM
"Our other stand would give away free elephant rides with every purchase"

Where did you get elephants?
Title: Re: Re: Fireworks
Post by: DiabloTX on July 06, 2007, 05:22:02 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Sandman
Ahem... that pool looks like it could use some attention. ;)


Well, what are you waiting for??
Title: Fireworks
Post by: lazs2 on July 07, 2007, 09:35:17 AM
sandie.. I see.. they are banned from adults in order to "save the children"

lazs
Title: Fireworks
Post by: eskimo2 on July 07, 2007, 12:22:02 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Curval
"Our other stand would give away free elephant rides with every purchase"

Where did you get elephants?


There was one privately owned elephant in Alaska; he would hire it out to help cover costs.  Legally it is pretty difficult to keep an exotic animal like an elephant; my brother is a lawyer and helped the owner out with some of his red tape.  The Alaska zoo has two elephants I believe.  I think that’s it for elephants in Alaska.

Here are pictures of the other two stands taken last summer:

(http://hallbuzz.com/images/7_2_06_groovy_fireworks.jpg)

(http://hallbuzz.com/images/7_2_06_freedom_fireworks.jpg)

And the poney rides:
(http://hallbuzz.com/images/7_2_06_brita_pony.jpg)
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Sandman on July 07, 2007, 12:26:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
sandie.. I see.. they are banned from adults in order to "save the children"

lazs


You'll have to ask the people that made it law in 1966.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: McFarland on July 07, 2007, 08:45:14 PM
The outlawing of M-80s was stupid and unsuccessfull. It's very hard for kids to have fun these days.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: RAIDER14 on July 07, 2007, 10:52:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by McFarland
The outlawing of M-80s was stupid and unsuccessfull. It's very hard for kids to have fun these days.


you can still get them in some places
Title: Fireworks
Post by: weazely on July 07, 2007, 11:57:41 PM
Well i live in ohio and were not aloud to have big boom fireworks so we just make out own....ill say




take ur average sparklers and put together about 100-200 all together use ducktape and wrap them extremely tightly like a cone and have one sparkler sticking out to use as a lighter then just wait.........If you do not want and explosion you can not wrap as tightly and just have a big flame that goes a good 5-10 feet in the air (depending on the ammount of sparklers)


well good luck with all the fun you can have with explosions


Jokester


(http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/5904/sparklerbombqc6.th.jpg) (http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sparklerbombqc6.jpg) this a big flame version coudlnt find a explosive picture


this is the flame you get........(http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/4170/bomb5sw5.th.jpg) (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bomb5sw5.jpg)
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Sandman on July 08, 2007, 09:51:39 AM
Quote
Originally posted by McFarland
The outlawing of M-80s was stupid and unsuccessfull. It's very hard for kids to have fun these days.


Unsuccessful?
Title: Fireworks
Post by: McFarland on July 08, 2007, 10:32:21 AM
Yes, unsuccessful. We can still get them (I have plenty of them that me an me cousin have stored away), and we still use them. It's just harder to get them.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Sandman on July 08, 2007, 07:40:56 PM
Are you sure they're over 50mg?
Title: Fireworks
Post by: nirvana on July 08, 2007, 07:48:40 PM
We're only allowed the "safe and sane" ones in Colorado as well, that is in some parts at least.  In Aurora they are all banned but they can still sell them in city limits:rolleyes:

I e mailed the Fire Chief 2 years ago about why firecrackers were less safe then those pink spinning things that go everywhere.  There was no response.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: McFarland on July 08, 2007, 08:51:23 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Sandman
Are you sure they're over 50mg?


Considering they blow a crater in the ground and they don't leave mailboxes standing, yeah, I'm sure they're over 50mg. Not as fun as full sticks of dynamite (which are 2 ft. long), but good for small things.
Title: Fireworks
Post by: Ripsnort on July 08, 2007, 09:15:54 PM
I love shooting fireworks (with the camera) but these are less than impressive considering that they were Indian Reservation fireworks (nothing larger than 2" mortars)

(http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/17063937/264572899.jpg)

(http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/17063937/264572900.jpg)

(http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/17063937/264572913.jpg)