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Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Fencer51 on July 05, 2007, 01:17:16 PM
We are going to try something new with Der Grosse Schlag (http://ahevents.org/pacific-theatre/current-or-next-scenario.html)  the next scenario in Aces High.

We are going to try and have historical skins for all the units involved.

Fortunately a good number of the units are already represented. However there are a few that need to be filled in on the American side.

Below is a list.

339th Fighter Group P-51D/P-51B  None available

353rd Fighter Group P-51D/P-51B  None available

355th Fighter Group P-51D/P-51B  One available
P-51B - 355FG/354FS by MachNix

389th Bomb Group B-24J  None available

If anyone has a desire to do add some P-51Ds and P-51Bs to fill up these slots or a P-51B for the 357th FG in Fall of 1944 colors please state your intentions in this thread.

We would like the Skins ready and submitted in time to be added to the game for the September 1, 2007 Skin update.

Also, below is a list of the Bomb Units that will be in play.  Feel free to create any skins to add to the ones available as the slots are not filled on these plane types.

1st Bomb Division:
91st Bomb Group B-17G  2 Available
91BG/324BS by Thunder
91BG/323BS By Kev367th

303rd Bomb Group B-17G  Two available
303BG/358BS By Kev367th.
303BG/359BS by Kev367th

381st Bomb Group B-17G  One available
381BG/532BS by Fencer51

2nd Bomb Division:
44th Bomb Group B-24J  One available
44BG/67BS by Greebo

446th Bomb Group B-24J  One available
446BG/705BS by Greebo

3rd Bomb Division:
100th Bomb Group B-17G  Two Available
100BG/418BS by Fencer51
100BG/338BS by Fencer51

385th Bomb Group B-17G  One Available
385BG/549BS by Krusty

447th Bomb Group B-17G  One available
Default Plane

Please PM me or better yet post here so I can keep track of what is being worked on and the status of the skin so as to Coordinate with HTC.

Thanks Guys.
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Fencer51 on July 05, 2007, 07:22:08 PM
Ok I will take the 353rd P-51D skin myself :eek:
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Serenity on July 05, 2007, 09:23:14 PM
I will be conviniently 'sick' from work every saturday of this frame so as to fly the 303BG/359BS "The Floose" B-17G. The history of that skin just BEGS me to fly it :)
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Husky01 on July 05, 2007, 09:54:10 PM
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Originally posted by Serenity
I will be conviniently 'sick' from work every saturday of this frame so as to fly the 303BG/359BS "The Floose" B-17G. The history of that skin just BEGS me to fly it :)


Serenity I will be forced to shoot you down then:aok
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Serenity on July 05, 2007, 09:57:34 PM
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Originally posted by Husky01
Serenity I will be forced to shoot you down then:aok


Bring it on! "The Bomber will always get through".
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Husky01 on July 05, 2007, 09:59:41 PM
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Originally posted by Serenity
Bring it on! "The Bomber will always get through".


Hehe. Here is my saying. "My cannons will always kill you"

:lol Btw haven't seen you on the past couple nights where you been?
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Serenity on July 05, 2007, 10:07:59 PM
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Originally posted by Husky01
Hehe. Here is my saying. "My cannons will always kill you"

:lol Btw haven't seen you on the past couple nights where you been?


Friday: Concert all night with Ashlee
Saturday: Flying with Ashlee
Sunday: Sleeping
Monday: Sick
Tuesday: All night with Ashlee
Wedensday: All night with Ashlee
Today: At my dad's so im using his crappy computer.

I will be up and flying MAYBE sunday... im not sure, ive got a WHOLE lot of stuff coming up. Just got a $3,000 scholarship to flight school, my dad just joined a busness partnership and bought a plane, ive got a job now on the other side of the island, and Ashlee's parents are letting her off of 'restriction' to see me, so ive got a whole lot going on.

BTW, do you know the history of that skin? (The Floose)
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Fencer51 on July 06, 2007, 06:56:48 AM
Looking forward to flying with you Serenity, now can you two please take this to PMs and quit hijacking this thread?
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Serenity on July 07, 2007, 03:17:47 AM
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Originally posted by Fencer51
Looking forward to flying with you Serenity, now can you two please take this to PMs and quit hijacking this thread?


Sorry, hijack done.
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Treize69 on July 08, 2007, 11:36:49 PM
Just in case theres a way for them to include it for the scenario, I'm doing up a November '44 specific P-51B for the 4th. Lt. Ayers P-51B-5-NA 43-6518, QP-K. NMF, Malcom hood, red rudder, D-Day stripes on underside of the tail only, black ID stripes on wings and H-Stabs.

I'm working from a profile, so if anyone has any photos to share that would help, it would be greatly appreciated. Just PM me or e-mail me of you have my address.

(http://www.fourthfightergroup.com/images/resource/ayerspclr.jpg)

The profile and info I am working from shows it as K not K, but thats one of the reasons photos are needed.
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Treize69 on July 11, 2007, 06:05:08 PM
Except for mino tweaking and lining up of panels and markings on the tail, shes done. Any more Ponies? The more generic the better, a whole formation of gawdy nosearts and flashy paintjobs just looks weird to me.

(http://80thfs.homestead.com/QPK1.jpg)
(http://80thfs.homestead.com/QPK2.jpg)
(http://80thfs.homestead.com/QPK3.jpg)

Found photo proof of its existence at the proper time too.

(http://80thfs.homestead.com/51s.jpg)
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Fencer51 on July 11, 2007, 06:08:09 PM
Looks fine Treize, but we could use other groups rather than the 4th.
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Treize69 on July 11, 2007, 06:20:28 PM
Thats what I mean by requests. As in give me ideas for examples from  other units to do. Preferably Bs, but I could try and get into a D or two.

Ive found a bunch of profiles for the 339th, 353rd and 355th, but don't know what ones would be accurate to November of '44. Profiles have no info as far as when the plane depicted is shown.

For example, was the 353rd wearing the long or short checkerboards at that point?
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Krusty on July 11, 2007, 07:35:49 PM
Serenity, check the photo again. Your tail code is too small in size. Needs to be taller and a bit wider, so that proportionately it matches the photo.

EDIT: ALso the codes are too high. K Q P should have their tops aligned with the top of the bar (in the "star and bar") but extend well above it. Also the underline on the K almost wraps around the bottom on the photo but yours is well above that. Just shift all the codes down and see if that fixes it. They look to be the proper size, just wrong position.

EDIT2: Correction, it's a combination of codes and star. The codes should barely not touch the radio compartment window, and the star should be a bit higher on the fuselage.
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Fencer51 on July 11, 2007, 08:10:42 PM
I have held off saying anything since no one was working on the Allied Skins..

However, I would hold off doing any Mustangs.  There was an agreed to plan that has since been put on hold.

Please stand by until things get sorted out.
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Treize69 on July 11, 2007, 10:13:45 PM
"Serenity"? :confused:

Kinda hard to take your detail criticism seriously when you can't even read who posted it in the first place.
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Serenity on July 11, 2007, 11:10:37 PM
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Originally posted by Krusty
Serenity, check the photo again. Your tail code is too small in size. Needs to be taller and a bit wider, so that proportionately it matches the photo.

EDIT: ALso the codes are too high. K Q P should have their tops aligned with the top of the bar (in the "star and bar") but extend well above it. Also the underline on the K almost wraps around the bottom on the photo but yours is well above that. Just shift all the codes down and see if that fixes it. They look to be the proper size, just wrong position.

EDIT2: Correction, it's a combination of codes and star. The codes should barely not touch the radio compartment window, and the star should be a bit higher on the fuselage.



LOL! Had to read that twice to figure it out...
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Fencer51 on July 12, 2007, 05:17:30 AM
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Originally posted by Treize69
"Serenity"? :confused:

Kinda hard to take your detail criticism seriously when you can't even read who posted it in the first place.


Glad to see he did that to someone else.  He does it to me all the time by calling me Fester.

Treize,

Your invasion stripes on the fusalage do not match the photo.
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Krusty on July 12, 2007, 09:28:18 AM
Yes, I'm sorry. Was sorta looking at the avatar more than the name with it....

:noid
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Stampf on July 12, 2007, 09:55:23 AM
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He does it to me all the time by calling me Fester.
  :rofl

Heh, I can relate.  Very very few get mine right on Vox, that's understandable, but everyone should be able to look to the left at the name and type it correctly.

Stampf,  not Stamp.

A Stamp is an instrument of postal tax that is applied in the top right corner of a parcel of mail.

Stampf, my call sign, is the first 6 letters of my name and is pronounced:

Shhhhhhhh.....TOM.......PFFFF FFFFFFF.

Carry on.
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Treize69 on July 12, 2007, 10:56:03 AM
The stripes are part of the "lining up" I mentioned. I was mainly trying to get them sized right first, now Im tweaking it little by little to get them in the right place. Its a pain in the oscar when I have to flatten about 90 layers to check on a 5-pixel movement...

I don't know if its a model issue or what, but when I move the codes it just doesnt look right. They look way too low and lopsided, like someone who'd never seen where they normally go slapped them on. And none of my fonts match the style used on the SN#, and when I try to stretch them to match they look horribly distorted and much worse than having them a bit too small. Way too pixelated, if that explains it. And I originally had the _ down lower, but half of it disappeared on the shape of the tail or under the section mapped for the underside. The tail shape is enough "off" to be a pain sometimes, just look at the size and location of the tail wheel door on the screenie and the pic to see what I mean. The curves and sizes don't quite match, so I keep running into issues like that.

Biggest pain is that there are so many layers that I spend more time flattening and converting now than I do actually moving and reshaping codes and stripes. Gimp takes FOREVER to work with in layers, god I miss photoshop!
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Serenity on July 12, 2007, 08:22:22 PM
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Originally posted by Krusty
Yes, I'm sorry. Was sorta looking at the avatar more than the name with it....

:noid


Whats THAT supposed to mean?!? Ive got giant boobs now?!?
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Krusty on July 13, 2007, 08:46:56 AM
No, but Treize does  :D
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Serenity on July 13, 2007, 11:13:22 PM
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Originally posted by Krusty
No, but Treize does  :D


lol. I thought you were jumping on the bandwagon that thinks im a girl...
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: 64kills on July 17, 2007, 08:42:05 AM
sereinitys right the bomber always gets through and why does noby evey send out masses of thing like p51 like flying tiger wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ee
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Shifty on July 17, 2007, 08:49:56 AM
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Originally posted by 64kills
sereinitys right the bomber always gets through and why does noby evey send out masses of thing like p51 like flying tiger wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ee



Skuzzy HELP!!!!!!!!!
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Serenity on July 17, 2007, 06:20:12 PM
Im working on a 486th BS B-24J, not sure if you can use it, but its 8th AF and will be done in a month at most...
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Treize69 on July 17, 2007, 07:32:44 PM
I found 2 from the 339th I'd like to do, one B and one D. Both relatively simple but colorful.

(http://80thfs.homestead.com/5q-gpro.jpg)
(http://80thfs.homestead.com/6n-kpro.jpg)
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Fencer51 on July 17, 2007, 07:34:53 PM
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Originally posted by Treize69
I found 2 from the 339th I'd like to do, one B and one D. Both relatively simple but colorful.

(http://80thfs.homestead.com/5q-gpro.jpg)
(http://80thfs.homestead.com/6n-kpro.jpg)


339th FG has been removed from the event..
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Treize69 on July 17, 2007, 07:40:37 PM
Also one from 355th
(http://80thfs.homestead.com/os-apro.jpg)

and the 353rd
(http://80thfs.homestead.com/lh-fpro.jpg)

Anyone else wants to give them a shot, help yourself.
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Treize69 on July 17, 2007, 07:41:26 PM
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Originally posted by Fencer51
339th FG has been removed from the event..


Bastage. :p

If you guys would share this info youd have saved me about 7 hours of work so far. :noid
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Fencer51 on July 17, 2007, 08:20:00 PM
I told people to NOT work on 51 skins for the event.

Until I hear further from Pyro there is no need.
Title: 8th Air Force Skins Request for Der Grosse Schlag
Post by: Treize69 on July 17, 2007, 08:23:36 PM
Oh the heck with it.