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Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Killjoy2 on July 05, 2007, 09:48:04 PM: There seem to be very few WB players left in AH. Most of the posts appear to be from Air Warrior players.

So what happened to WB players?
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: CAV on July 05, 2007, 09:55:11 PM: OK...

They are gone...

Time to turn AH in the "Air Warrior" we always wanted.

:p

Cavalry
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: LYNX on July 05, 2007, 09:58:57 PM: many WB players still here I am 1 and know of at least 6 others that played in my time scale of WB.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: 475FG Savlan on July 05, 2007, 10:49:12 PM: Oh, but I beg to differ :)

Brought my whole squad of 20+ here from WB...and just this week picked up 3 more old friends from other WB squads.

My group has been together since 97-98 in WB 2.7...with some of us having flown in WB even earlier but in other groups.

I wish I posted a lot more in the AH forums, like I did in WB. I was very active in the community there, made movies and other stuff, was a trainer & CM for a short while....but to be honest now that Im here I prefer to spend all my time actually FLYING! :D

Come by our website & check us out, link is in my signature.

~~Joe Savlan~~
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: WMLute on July 05, 2007, 11:27:30 PM: Heck, a WB player just join the Might WidowMakers today. Several WM's are former WB players.

(btw Welcome to the Squad Chapel!)
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: xREAPERx on July 05, 2007, 11:34:10 PM: ex wb here myself
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Jaxxon on July 05, 2007, 11:37:49 PM: Recently dumped my WB account, may reopen an S3 only account, if that's possible, in the fall.

Not hard to find a fight or a mission, even as a Knight, in the LW arenas here but I'll will miss the S3 style setup and the effort that goes into the once a week 3 hour one life event. Salvan can relate.
Some of the biggest issues the S3 had were Ien related IMO. I think that the event has outgrown the rate / lack of development.
A lot of work has gone into really great historical terrains but FM and DM short falls as well as a poor AI routine (ground) have dampened my interest in WB.

I like being able to grab a Spit and pick a fight and know there will be a lot of action no matter the time or day of the week it is in AH.

Jaxxon
from
417 RCAF "Warbirds"
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: SOB on July 06, 2007, 02:03:43 AM: Just got back online last week (couldn't have those big bunch of dweebs from AW take over ;)), used to fly in WB with the Dogz of War as sob-
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: sullie363 on July 06, 2007, 03:09:46 AM: Flew WB for years on and off under different names. Also flew its WWI incarnation Dawn of Aces for a while.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Dowding on July 06, 2007, 03:44:56 AM: SOB you SOB, glad to hear you are back mate. :) Started flying again after a 4 year absence a few weeks ago myself.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Ghastly on July 06, 2007, 06:39:24 AM: Most of the GMB's are all from WB's, and the Barbary Corsairs are coming back up to speed in AH as well.

Don't be fooled - I think many of us had the same problem I had - getting something close to your WB's callsign didn't work, and we came on under different names.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: scottydawg on July 06, 2007, 07:26:17 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Jaxxon
Recently dumped my WB account, may reopen an S3 only account, if that's possible, in the fall.

Not hard to find a fight or a mission, even as a Knight, in the LW arenas here but I'll will miss the S3 style setup and the effort that goes into the once a week 3 hour one life event. Salvan can relate.
Some of the biggest issues the S3 had were Ien related IMO. I think that the event has outgrown the rate / lack of development.
A lot of work has gone into really great historical terrains but FM and DM short falls as well as a poor AI routine (ground) have dampened my interest in WB.

I like being able to grab a Spit and pick a fight and know there will be a lot of action no matter the time or day of the week it is in AH.

Jaxxon
from
417 RCAF "Warbirds"

Jaxxon:
http://www.ahevents.org
and
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/calendar.php?s=

Lots of stuff happening all the time.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Shifty on July 06, 2007, 07:39:31 AM: Lots of us here under different names. I was an AW guy then a WB guy......

Now we're all AH guys.:aok
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: xXx on July 06, 2007, 07:46:02 AM: We are here we're just AH players now.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: SOB on July 06, 2007, 08:58:35 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Dowding
SOB you SOB, glad to hear you are back mate. :) Started flying again after a 4 year absence a few weeks ago myself.

Nice, I look forward to vulching you sometime in the near future! :)
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Whisky58 on July 06, 2007, 09:03:18 AM: Also ex-WB. WB11 not 3. Was with 71st Eagles, "Taurus" was co. My handle was gnugnu.
Not looked back since signing up to AH tho'.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Easyscor on July 06, 2007, 09:14:48 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Ghastly
Don't be fooled - I think many of us had the same problem I had - getting something close to your WB's callsign didn't work, and we came on under different names...

The answer for that is to call htc.

When WBs new guys show up, have them call and see if the CPID is not in use, they can have it if it's not active so that shouldn't stop them.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Frodo on July 06, 2007, 09:54:19 AM: Old WB dweeb here.

Frodo
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Treize69 on July 06, 2007, 10:09:40 AM: Ex WB here, and saw Blumax from the WB 4th FG (Now Blue2Max) in the arena for the first time the other night.

Theres an awful lot of us around, just a lot have changed names for one reason or another. Seems like every other week I'm either recognizing a name or someone recognizes me from the old days.

Every once in a while I'll even see a name that makes be break out in a cold sweat and start drinking heavily, until I remember they're supposedly on my side now (Savlan, I'm looking suspiciously at you...)
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Chapel on July 06, 2007, 10:17:11 AM: Thanks Lutes =)
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Avenger8 on July 06, 2007, 10:26:30 AM: Former Warbirder here, and I just joined the 475thFG last night.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: dedalos on July 06, 2007, 10:29:05 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Jaxxon

I had no idea Jaxxo had a son :confused:
Title: Re: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: blkmgc on July 06, 2007, 12:21:23 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Killjoy2
There seem to be very few WB players left in AH. Most of the posts appear to be from Air Warrior players.

So what happened to WB players?

Heh, you just need to look in the right places.;)
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: blkmgc on July 06, 2007, 12:23:47 PM: BIG ~~to Ghastly jaxxon and Savlan. Who by the way makes probably the best ingame vids around! Joe, if you ever need a group of bombers for one, alls you have to do is give the word man. :)~~
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Killjoy2 on July 06, 2007, 12:25:01 PM: I had no idea Jaxxo could reproduce. :)

It's great to see some of the WB players check in. I thought they were all gone.

I wonder what the ratio of WB'ers to AW players is. I feel like the WB players have by and large moved on and there are vastly more AW players now.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: blkmgc on July 06, 2007, 12:30:48 PM: Oh, I dont know. It seems that whenever ingame I usually get a "WB's blkmgc?" on private, only to get a "I was xxxxx in WB's" as a response. Even after being back here for a number of months. I dont think many post here, but I think that there are quite a few ingame. A good number of the 550th moved over here and now make up the 484th.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: dedalos on July 06, 2007, 12:38:49 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Killjoy2
I had no idea Jaxxo could reproduce. :)

Well, what are squadies good for :D
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: 475FG Savlan on July 06, 2007, 12:49:23 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Jaxxon

Not hard to find a fight or a mission, even as a Knight, in the LW arenas here but I'll will miss the S3 style setup and the effort that goes into the once a week 3 hour one life event.

Jaxxon
from
417 RCAF "Warbirds"

Jaxxon,

We are in the FSO ( Friday Squad Ops ) which is patterened in the image of S3, but dare I say....more fun. Why?

Well, its 3 weeks on & one week off. So, its a new scenario every month. I find this keeps things fresh. In S3 with 5 weeks, and the occasional week interruption due to snafu or a holiday, and your talking almost 2 months flying the same scenario - no matter how well designed, it gets a little long in the tooth, IMHO.

A side effect of the 3 weeks on is that it becomes like a sports playoff, best 2 of 3. There has always been a declared victor since Ive been in FSO - no 'like kissing your sister' ties.

Of course, a dedicated and productive terrain team that provides historic accurate terrains for the FSO designers makes things more interesting as well. This is thanks to HTC who provide all the content creation tools to the community. Now I dont have to pretend that Malta is Guadalcanal anymore :)

Like S3, FSO is one life, but 2 hours instead of 3...thus the frames are designed to get you to the action quicker, without spending 2 hours of cat and mouse chase the radar contacts stuff. Also, all targets must be hit within the first hour, so no end of frame NOE stuff by your opponents while you are landing. I now spend more time simulating a combat pilot in a historic situation and less time simulating the relationship between a pilot and his ground control:)

All the dedicated planning is here, as well. There is a dedicated forum here provided by HTC (imagine that! - look under squad operations ) and a AH Events website as well ( http://ahevents.org/site/ ) with all the info. Most planning is done via a CO/XO email list, and not the boards, so its not as visible here as in S3.

Oh, and the logs just plain work, and scores are posted usually about 1-2 hrs after the event at the ahevents website. A very nice S6 like breakdown is given.

Did I mention that the kill buffer is turned off in these events? Very engrossing to not have a kill confirmation when that wounded bird escapes you. And not only is it one life, but one airframe. Exit and your done. You can rearm & refuel at your airfield, though :)

FSO is based on squad committment to participation & a squad must give a estimate of attendance ( for side balancing for the CM's ). If you'd like to try it with some fellow Ex WB'ers, drop me a line so I can figure into our force figures. If you like ( and its OK with your CO ) you can even join my group just for the FSO, and fly in the other arenas under your current squad.

FSO is Friday nights, 11pm EST.

This has been a public service announcement - Ok Roc, this commercial will cost ya 20 bucks! :) :)
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Squire on July 06, 2007, 01:21:42 PM: The game callsigns are different so I cant figure how anybody can know how many are here, or aren't.

I used to be +taur+ in Warbirds, with 416 RCAF. Still here, as many others are.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Jaxxon on July 06, 2007, 01:38:03 PM: There may be a reason Jaxxo doen't have an "n" at the end of his PID.

I had an account in the AH I days under the PID "jaxxon" and closed the account in favor of a WW2OL account. Guess they never retired my PID.

Savlan and Scottydawg and thanks for the event info.
Friday nights seem like a better time to hold these and 11 pm fits 'cause I'm a bit nocturnal (shift work does it to me). At this moment I have no CO in Aces High. I'm still learning how things work here and haven't had time to map things to the settings I'm used to like mouse clicking six calls.
All that being said, settings are much the same as WBs. An example, I really have to play with rudder and trim settings 'cause I can't even get an Hog off the runway never mind a CV. That's where I realized how dumbed down the FMs are in WB 3 compared to what they were in 2.73.

I may drop you a line later Savlan.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Jaxxon on July 06, 2007, 01:39:48 PM: Hi +taur+

I remeber you. Have you seen sniper?
Title: yet another X WB pilot
Post by: byheck on July 06, 2007, 01:40:39 PM: You all may not find many former WB pilots who carried over the same handle.

WB2.0 {May 1998} through WB3 {Jan 2007} as:

byheck {333rd FS then 475th FG}
byhec- {Short term 2nd Account WB3 (2nd Squadron 3rd AG)}
oof--- {2nd Account WB2 (2nd Squadron) KG200}
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Toad on July 06, 2007, 01:54:50 PM: SOB, good to see you back. We'll have to have a few HO jousts for old times sake!
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Krusty on July 06, 2007, 02:19:33 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Jaxxon
An example, I really have to play with rudder and trim settings 'cause I can't even get an Hog off the runway never mind a CV.

From the post, it seems you are re-learning Aces High after an extended leave of absence (since AH 1 days?). If I have mis-read this (and it is possible I have) then please ignore the following.

If this is the case, there are several ways to take off in a F4U. First you can use auto takeoff. Second you can pull the stick back 25% (or maybe it's 50%?) to lock the tail wheel. Third, just use rudder. Have your rudder calibrated (whether twisty or pedals) and just rudder yourself back straight. It is much easier with pedals to do a hands-free takeoff (IMO). The corsair, along with a select few other planes, is not easy to take off in without practice. It also has quirks when landing (as do those other select planes), and you may touch down safely only to find yourself ground looping moments later. If you really are re-learning from scratch I would very much suggest something similar to a F4U, but not an F4U. Try an F6F, for example. Move back to the F4U after a lot of practice.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Treize69 on July 06, 2007, 02:25:44 PM: Quote
Originally posted by blkmgc
Oh, I dont know. It seems that whenever ingame I usually get a "WB's blkmgc?" on private, only to get a "I was xxxxx in WB's" as a response. Even after being back here for a number of months. I dont think many post here, but I think that there are quite a few ingame. A good number of the 550th moved over here and now make up the 484th.

I seem to ask you once a month or so, since I can never remember the answer...

Though I usually remember when I see you on the boards, as I remember talking to you in WB about having a NY/NE MiniCon back in '99 or '00, somewhere in there.

You go by Blkmgc because you thought your wife was a witch, right?
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Gryphons on July 06, 2007, 02:35:20 PM: Old WB player here as well from the 2.77 days and WB 2004. lol I remember getting shot down again and agian by Frodo untill i learned energy management. Just curious, any old =Wings of Death= squadies in here, or Avengers? I know there's a few warbirds players who mostly use the AvA.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Mr No Name on July 06, 2007, 02:36:38 PM: our squad went to WB just before AW shut down, now we're here
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Killjoy2 on July 06, 2007, 02:42:29 PM: It would be nice if we could get the FSO info posted as a sticky to remind us.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Squire on July 06, 2007, 02:58:07 PM: Good to see you too.

Ya, Sniper is Chanter in AH, and he is is with us in 880, has been since 02, on and off.

If your looking for an Event based squad Jaxxon, drop me a line at glbold@telus.net if you are ever interested.
Title: Re: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Vortex on July 06, 2007, 03:13:57 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Killjoy2
There seem to be very few WB players left in AH. Most of the posts appear to be from Air Warrior players.

So what happened to WB players?

I flew both, and quite enjoyed both.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Shifty on July 06, 2007, 03:48:55 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Squire

I used to be +taur+ in Warbirds, with 416 RCAF. Still here, as many others are.

No you were a pain in the butt in WB's.:D
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: sparow on July 06, 2007, 04:25:49 PM: Hi!

Ex-WBirder myself, came to AH in Tour 33 and stayed. The squad moved first but I had to hang on due to a very slow machine...

Managed to keep my callsign, "r" cropped and everything...When I moved and waited for a phone line for 6 months, I kept paying my subscription to keep my callsign...

Still flying around, still in 249 after all these years...

~~all~~
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: blkmgc on July 06, 2007, 05:37:15 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Treize69
I seem to ask you once a month or so, since I can never remember the answer...

Though I usually remember when I see you on the boards, as I remember talking to you in WB about having a NY/NE MiniCon back in '99 or '00, somewhere in there.

You go by Blkmgc because you thought your wife was a witch, right?

Hehe, something like that. :) I think thats how she got me hooked and landed, still not sure .She used to give me grief back when I discovered WB 1.? but now I have her hooked on Red Orchestra and racing online...so its not so bad anymore.:)
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Citabria on July 06, 2007, 05:56:44 PM: flew as citabr in wb 2 flew a lot with Torque Hblair Eddiek and the assissins in the silly 4 plane non pay per hour arena cant recall its name now. came to AH in beta and never looked back.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Vulcan on July 06, 2007, 06:36:37 PM: -vlcn- / -vlkn- here.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Pudgie on July 06, 2007, 09:28:55 PM: Flyhii in WB's

Pudgie in AHII
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Jaxxon on July 06, 2007, 09:39:58 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Krusty
If this is the case, there are several ways to take off in a F4U. First you can use auto takeoff. Second you can pull the stick back 25% (or maybe it's 50%?) to lock the tail wheel. Third, just use rudder. Have your rudder calibrated (whether twisty or pedals) and just rudder yourself back straight. It is much easier with pedals to do a hands-free takeoff (IMO). The corsair, along with a select few other planes, is not easy to take off in without practice. It also has quirks when landing (as do those other select planes), and you may touch down safely only to find yourself ground looping moments later. If you really are re-learning from scratch I would very much suggest something similar to a F4U, but not an F4U. Try an F6F, for example. Move back to the F4U after a lot of practice.

Thanks Krusty, how to lock the tail wheel was what I was looking for.
Locking the tail wheel in WB isn't nessesary and the rudder will always return to center which I don't think happens on take off in AH, although in flight it does. In IL2 there is a key stroke to lock the tail wheel and I thought there would be here but could never find it. As for auto take off :rofl I'd never use it, I feel a little dweebish for using combat trim.

Squire; Sniper becomes Chanter :huh thought he be Piper or something along those lines, didn't he take up the Bag pipes? :)

I may just take you up on that offer.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: SOB on July 06, 2007, 11:05:02 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Toad
SOB, good to see you back. We'll have to have a few HO jousts for old times sake!

Aye, good to see you're still around. Just fly in my general direction, and I'll always be glad to take a pot shot at your prop!
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: VooWho on July 06, 2007, 11:42:20 PM: Seems like alot of people that play AH are from either WB or AW. I feel like I'm the only one that came from Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator 1 (European Front). Thats where I learned to fly from the Eagles Squadron. Man I miss those British guys :(
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Knegel on July 07, 2007, 12:15:01 AM: Hi,

at least i know there are some out there who came from EAW, not only me. :D

Otherwise i did play AW only offline long ago and WB only on the free russian(?) server for a few days.

Greetings,

Knegel
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Cooley on July 07, 2007, 03:51:45 AM: 367th has about a dozen ex WB 2.77 players
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: aztec on July 08, 2007, 05:53:46 AM: WBs 1.??...been awhile, ~~to all of you former Birders.~~
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: forHIM on July 08, 2007, 12:56:47 PM: Quote
This has been a public service announcement - Ok Roc, this commercial will cost ya 20 bucks!

Savlan -- ncie explanation and I'm sure ROC will make good on that reward. Just be forewarned that the sheep he offers will be from the CM dorm.

SOB -- good to see an old name back online.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: 475FG Savlan on July 08, 2007, 01:34:58 PM: Quote
Originally posted by forHIM
Just be forewarned that the sheep he offers will be from the CM dorm.

Geez, sloppy seconds no less! Ewe! :lol

(http://www.muttonbone.com/images/sheep_ani1.gif)
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: ROC on July 08, 2007, 02:50:50 PM: Savlan, forget the used stuff, you get the pick of the litter :D

Oh, and have you seen Der Grosse Schlag! Scenario? You've Got to get in that one.
Title: It looks like the WB players are gone
Post by: Squire on July 08, 2007, 04:21:18 PM: Yes, he did indeed take up the pipes, he's actually going to Moscow in a few months time for an international tatoo of pipers.

I imagine they will be getting a few folks up early. ;)