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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Bosco123 on July 06, 2007, 11:41:43 AM
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now I supposed we can do this for a lot of perk points but we can use the V-1 flying bomb for good use.
insted of flying to the enmy's HQ you send that up it could go to which ever HQ you want. also as as the komet it would only work in the HQ areas the red boxed feilds.
should we or should we not
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That would be pretty neat - the V1 bomb
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We already have V-1s, noobs are Buzz Bombs.
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by Xargos
We already have V-1s, noobs are Buzz Bombs.
Nope! They're Squeak Bombs.
In stead of going "Vroobrooobroovrooom-BOOM" they go "Squesquesqueakasqueaken-BOOM"
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seriously though guys what do you think
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I think it would be a good idea - hopefully HT will consider it
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Originally posted by DoLbY
I think it would be a good idea - hopefully HT will consider it
I hope and as I said for some perk points then we wont have 30 guys shooting for one HQ
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Originally posted by Bosco123
I hope and as I said for some perk points then we wont have 30 guys shooting for one HQ
Doesn't need to be perked. 30 guys wouldn't be any threat to a HQ.
V-1 was not a weapon known for pinpoint accuracy. Best you could aim for was a target like Greater London.
V-1 fired at ranges up to about 130 miles had a 50% hit zone of about 8 miles, up to 200miles it was something like 12 miles.
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yeah, it would be a 1 in a million chance of hitting the HQ.
the V1 would be good in this game for one reason only:
a good excuse to finally add the meteor f3
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well we can make it accurate as anything I say is turned down by lusche he is almost dictating me on anything I say so oh well let him have his fun its not upseting me at all he thinks it is but its not
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Originally posted by Bosco123
anything I say is turned down by lusche
Because almost anything you say is crap. Like your try to "prove" that WWII in Europe dind't end on 8th May at 23:01 hours. (Yeah, what's the worth of offical surrender documents if your Granddad says otherwise? :D)
:aok
Originally posted by Bosco123
well we can make it accurate
Luckily HTC tries to model planes & weapons realistically and according to their real world performance.
For fancy fantasy weapons, go elsewhere.
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what do you think that the V-1 was a fantasy? the scaryest thing about the V-1 was the fact that when the engine went out ( which was usually over london) was the fact that it would dive stright for the ground if you heard the engine out the run for your life but you dont care of course thats useless info for you
just keep your mouth shut as they say if you dont have somthing nice to say then don't say it at all as you should use that
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Originally posted by Bosco123
what do you think that the V-1 was a fantasy? the scaryest thing about the V-1 was the fact that when the engine went out ( which was usually over london) was the fact that it would dive stright for the ground if you heard the engine out the run for your life but you dont care of course thats useless info for you
just keep your mouth shut as they say if you dont have somthing nice to say then don't say it at all as you should use that
And once again you are seriously lacking in reading comperhension. :)
I didn't say the V-1 is a fantasy weapon.
A more accurate V-1 than in real life (Bosco123: "well we can make it accurate") would be one.
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Originally posted by Lusche
And once again you are seriously lacking in reading comperhension. :)
I didn't say the V-1 is a fantasy weapon.
A more accurate V-1 than in real life (Bosco123: "well we can make it accurate") would be one.
the thing about the V-1 is at one point in time the fired them off of certin planes im not sure which but im sure that they flew off airplanes I belive that it was the 110 that would make it more accurate than than the ramp launch also they made a maned flying V-1 which flew which made it even more accurate that is some ways that we can make it accurate lusche.
as I said "we can make it accurate"
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Originally posted by Bosco123
the thing about the V-1 is at one point in time the fired them off of certin planes im not sure which but im sure that they flew off airplanes I belive that it was the 110 that would make it more accurate" [/B]
It was the He 111. This method was only used after all thre launching bases against England were captured.
And firing a V1 from a airborne platform moving in three dimensions was way more inaccurate than launching from a fixed base.
So we absolutely CAN'T make them more accurate without crossing over into pure fantasy & fiction.
It needed several decades before cruise missiles were actually accurate enough to hit targets like our HQ's.
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well thank you it was the 111 but as I said what about this maned V-1 ill look up on that as you won't acknowledge that
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Originally posted by Bosco123
well thank you it was the 111 but as I said what about this maned V-1 ill look up on that as you won't acknowledge that
The manned V-1 was the Reichenberg-gerät (Fi 103) and was never used operationally.
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Originally posted by Bosco123
seriously though guys what do you think
I'd be for it. Another gadget! Would be cool to see them launching from a base upon takeoff.
Mortars would be fine too along with larger artillery.
Semi-low buffs over a field, and fire off a phaylanx of V2's.
Would be a hoot.
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10 POINTS FOR LUSCHEINDOR!
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for laugh, bail out and hitch a ride back home by V1 riding.:D
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:rofl
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im all for the V1.
p51srule:aok
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630 km/h (390 mph) flying between 600 to 900 m (2,000 to 3,000 feet)
Thats not exactly fast for a missile. Alot of planes can intercept it, and then it would just be a waste of perk points.
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the only problem is that if they shot at the V-1 they would kill themselves in the process.
the only way to do it would have to be higher than V-1 and have to dive on the V-1 to get over 600 MPH and get right next to it and roll the wings over were then it would crash and explode
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Originally posted by Bosco123
the only problem is that if they shot at the V-1 they would kill themselves in the process.
the only way to do it would have to be higher than V-1 and have to dive on the V-1 to get over 600 MPH and get right next to it and roll the wings over were then it would crash and explode
No V1 did ever fly at 600mph, nor was tipping it's wings the only way it was killed by fighters.
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How is it envisioned that the V1 weapon would work in the Game as it now stands.
Would there be a set of launchers at each field. How would the launcher be aimed? Could a player selecting the V1 Launcher as his position at a field, like a field gun, launch V1 after V1 after V1 and so on, Is there an endless supply of V1’s at each field?
Is there a V1 factory? Or is it just lumped in with all the other ordnance at an airfield and if you destroy the Ord Bunker, no more V1’s at that field. Would the launcher be a separate destroyable target on the Airfield or Vehicle Base where ever they are located?
And why not V2’?
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NO V1's, for the reason of people asking afterwards, "Can we have V2's with NUKES?:t"
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Originally posted by Lusche
No V1 did ever fly at 600mph, nor was tipping it's wings the only way it was killed by fighters.
you havent read properly i said that the fighters tipped the V-1 wings and then the V-1 would go crazy and crash. I should have refraised the answer
as for how it would work, the V-1 would go to certin feilds like the 163 the red ones.
they would have launchers and they would have the V-1's up on the launchers.
you pick the V-1 and hit the "H" takeoff and it would luanch by itself it would give you a text saying "V-1 sucessfully tookoff" or somthing like that.
it would give you another text telling you weather or not it hit the HQ or not as it could be innacurrate but not as bad as it was.
I would call it an ordnace and if it acually destroyed all ords at the red feild then their in big trouble.
V2 needs bunkers and missle silos and it would be too complicated for AH.
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Originally posted by Lusche
No V1 did ever fly at 600mph, nor was tipping it's wings the only way it was killed by fighters.
Originally posted by Bosco123
you havent read properly i said that the fighters tipped the V-1 wings and then the V-1 would go crazy and crash. I should have refraised the answer
Like I said many times before,
You really really really have to work on your reading comprehension.
You were telling us that fighters HAD to tip 'em over, because if firing at the V1 they would kill themselfves. While shooting at a V1 was a dangerous business, it WAS done.
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Just a thought here but we should be able to ram V-1 if it comes down to it - I would be more then willing to take one for the team (Knights:aok )
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Originally posted by DoLbY
Just a thought here but we should be able to ram V-1 if it comes down to it - I would be more then willing to take one for the team (Knights:aok )
Hmm gotta think of two things here:
First one: Fhe "tip over method" would most probably don't work at all due to internet lag and the resulting current collsion model
Second, V1's cruising around may be difficult to implement, because they are just like planes, but not controlled by a player's computer. So the server would have to "control" and track them them, instead of receiving positional data from a client and relaying to all other players in the area.
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Originally posted by Lusche
Hmm gotta think of two things here:
First one: Fhe "tip over method" would most probably don't work at all due to internet lag and the resulting current collsion model
Second, V1's cruising around may be difficult to implement, because they are just like planes, but not controlled by a player's computer. So the server would have to "control" and track them them, instead of receiving positional data from a client and relaying to all other players in the area.
When you fire rockets and shoot bullets how does it track all of them.
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Originally posted by Traveler
When you fire rockets and shoot bullets how does it track all of them.
The client's computer seems to do it.
It's way more difficult with a V1, not only because it cruises for a much longer time (100 miles would be something around 15 minutes), but because it's traveling well beyond the players visual range.
But I have to point out that my these thoughts of mine about implementation are based not only on some facts, but on some speculations too ;)
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internet lag will cause problems for those who try the tip over method as dolby said the person who takes on the V-1 is going to take one for the team as I can see it unless AH fudges the collision thing as of now we probly could do that for the V-1 and only that one
I would even take one for the team
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Originally posted by Lusche
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Originally posted by Lusche
No V1 did ever fly at 600mph, nor was tipping it's wings the only way it was killed by fighters.
Like I said many times before,
You really really really have to work on your reading comprehension.
You were telling us that fighters HAD to tip 'em over, because if firing at the V1 they would kill themselfves. While shooting at a V1 was a dangerous business, it WAS done.
the new pilots who did not know were the ones who were crazy enough to do it the more experienced pilots knew what had to be done in getting the V-1 if they had to be like 10K or somthing like that to not get killed by the explosion
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Bosco do you know anything about WWII?
Your "the only problem is that if they shot at the V-1 they would kill themselves in the process." quote made me laugh. I have seen LOTS of gun cam footage of a plane shooting a V-1 and flying through the explosion. The reason they started tiping them over with thier wings was because dabrie the from the explosion could damage the plane.
The V-1 has been asked for many many times, but the people that ask for it think/want it to act like a tomahawk cruise missile and hit with pinpoint accuracy but thats not how it works. Theres a reason they shot them at London and not RAF airfield and lusch as already told you why. Anyways it only carryed 2337lbs of HE thats enough to take out ONE hanger at an airfield IF you manage to hit it. Why not take a P-38 and drop the hanger then kill some plane? Oh thats right the V-1 would be "cool". I always see you n00bs say "it would be cool" after you ask for something.
It would be "cool" if we could get more early war planes like the He-111 but you kids and your great ideas.:rolleyes:
I say give em the n00k just to shut them up.
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Originally posted by Larry
Bosco do you know anything about WWII?
Your "the only problem is that if they shot at the V-1 they would kill themselves in the process." quote made me laugh. I have seen LOTS of gun cam footage of a plane shooting a V-1 and flying through the explosion. The reason they started tiping them over with thier wings was because dabrie the from the explosion could damage the plane.
The V-1 has been asked for many many times, but the people that ask for it think/want it to act like a tomahawk cruise missile and hit with pinpoint accuracy but thats not how it works. Theres a reason they shot them at London and not RAF airfield and lusch as already told you why. Anyways it only carryed 2337lbs of HE thats enough to take out ONE hanger at an airfield IF you manage to hit it. Why not take a P-38 and drop the hanger then kill some plane? Oh thats right the V-1 would be "cool". I always see you n00bs say "it would be cool" after you ask for something.
It would be "cool" if we could get more early war planes like the He-111 but you kids and your great ideas.:rolleyes:
I say give em the n00k just to shut them up.
listen bud
as its only a wishlist the problem with you is that you have a quick temper for stupid reasons.
im the best "noob" you will ever see as everybody has ideas people can say them you don't have to degrade people for their ideas at least im not a squeeker like most of my gerneration these days.
have you been reading at all the sole reason I want the V-1 is that we ac destroy the HQ with two 1000 pounders easy and obviousy you have done your homework and saying that its a 2337 pound bomb.
now im sure it can be inaccurate to an extent maybe 1/5 hits the HQ or somthing like that.
so ive done my homework too and again don't get mad because I have idaes the HE-111 would be a great plane but why keep hitting that every second AH has already got the poin the first time
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Originally posted by Lusche
Hmm gotta think of two things here:
First one: Fhe "tip over method" would most probably don't work at all due to internet lag and the resulting current collsion model
Second, V1's cruising around may be difficult to implement, because they are just like planes, but not controlled by a player's computer. So the server would have to "control" and track them them, instead of receiving positional data from a client and relaying to all other players in the area.
Have to shoot down my wishful glory moments with techincal things don't ya? lol :D
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Originally posted by Bosco123
listen bud
as its only a wishlist the problem with you is that you have a quick temper for stupid reasons.
im the best "noob" you will ever see as everybody has ideas people can say them you don't have to degrade people for their ideas at least im not a squeeker like most of my gerneration these days.
have you been reading at all the sole reason I want the V-1 is that we ac destroy the HQ with two 1000 pounders easy and obviousy you have done your homework and saying that its a 2337 pound bomb.
now im sure it can be inaccurate to an extent maybe 1/5 hits the HQ or somthing like that.
so ive done my homework too and again don't get mad because I have idaes the HE-111 would be a great plane but why keep hitting that every second AH has already got the poin the first time
Can you re-type that in english please?
Best noob? LMAO itnt that like saying Im the smartest retarded person? A quick jump to the scores page will jsut show me your just another n00b that wanted something that he just saw on the history channel.
Your are right I didnt read all the posts on here, but you want to shoot V-1 at enemy HQs? THats even funnier then the thing I quoted from you. The V-1 had a range of about 150miles and flew at around 2-3k. IF HTC ever makes the V-1 they will model it like it was in real life. Thier not going to dumb it down so you can pick off hangers from a few bases back. The V-1 would be useless for spending bomber perks. Hell the Ar234 is faster and carrys more LBs of HE. Why not up a single Ar234 drop one of the bombs throttle down and fly at 2k. When an enemy dives down dont even touch your joystick (if you have one) and see how long you live.
btw Im not your "bud"
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Originally posted by Bosco123
see as everybody has ideas people can say them you don't have to degrade people for their ideas
People try to respectfully disagree with you, but you stomp your feet and plug your ears. You seem completely unwilling to listen to others points of view, or maybe as Lusche pointed out you have trouble with comprehension.
at least im not a squeeker like most of my gerneration these days.
I LOL'd.
have you been reading at all the sole reason I want the V-1 is that we ac destroy the HQ with two 1000 pounders easy
Go read the thread in the General Discussion forum titled "Are HQ's to strong?" 2000lbs will not even scratch HQ, maybe take out the ack guns on the top.
now im sure it can be inaccurate to an extent maybe 1/5 hits the HQ or somthing like that.
This has already been discussed, they were not accurate at all. To damage the HQ you have to hit the HQ BUILDING, even landing in the town around it does squat. The HQ takes 37,000lbs to bring down I think. If that number is correct than it would take 16 direct hits with the 2337 number put forth by TK. If only 1 in 5 hits than that's about 80 you would need to launch.
so ive done my homework too and again don't get mad because I have idaes
Your enthusiasm is commendable. The problem is you don't seem to or wan't to understand the requirements of what can possibly be considered for addition to the game.
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the problem with larry was that he went mad on the first post he just kept saying "lets take the he-111" and thats getting old. I've only been here 4 months and i've heard that so many time it will make your eyes pop :O
as for lusche he always puts me down even if I had posted somthing about the HE-111 yet again getting old.
your the first one to respectfully disagree with me without getting angry.
now I could easily say somthing about the G-55"centauro" or the 25 that has not came yet, but yet again it is getting old to hear all of these same planes that we use.
another one that we should have would be the hellcat tank which would be the best tank fo the town or somthing ike that but my opinion not lets see what lusche has to put it down on which I know that it is less armored than the panzer or tiger or somthing like that, just my opinion
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Get your facts straight, do a little research on your topics and don't mistake myths & fantasies with facts, and nobody will "put you down".
Sticking to your stories even when confronted with reliable sources (like theWW2 ended when your Grandad said it dit, not what official documents say ;) ) won't help your credibility. :aok
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Originally posted by Larry
Can you re-type that in english please?
Best noob? LMAO itnt that like saying Im the smartest retarded person? A quick jump to the scores page will jsut show me your just another n00b that wanted something that he just saw on the history channel.
Your are right I didnt read all the posts on here, but you want to shoot V-1 at enemy HQs? THats even funnier then the thing I quoted from you. The V-1 had a range of about 150miles and flew at around 2-3k. IF HTC ever makes the V-1 they will model it like it was in real life. Thier not going to dumb it down so you can pick off hangers from a few bases back. The V-1 would be useless for spending bomber perks. Hell the Ar234 is faster and carrys more LBs of HE. Why not up a single Ar234 drop one of the bombs throttle down and fly at 2k. When an enemy dives down dont even touch your joystick (if you have one) and see how long you live.
btw Im not your "bud"
were did the ar234 come from?
it went to the HE-111 to the AR-234 thats wierd.
yet again that is somthing that you degrade on and become stupid on becuse .report larry (or what ever your name is in AH) is not very hard to do every time you get on then kick you off your sbsciption. im not stupid.
been plaing for 4 months and have much more hours under my wing alredy then you have your entire subsciption. there is not a day were i am not playing. as calling myself a noob yes im young 15 to be a fact and fly model airplanes with guys as old as 90. so yet again im much nicer than most kids these days but do not get on my bad side as you have just did. also I have my own pilots licence and plane to be in marines in 3 years and become a pilot. if you see me as a 2 star general don't be suprised but almost forgot you won't be thre in that time.
its the youth that will rise and come over you old guys
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Originally posted by Bosco123
were did the ar234 come from?
it went to the HE-111 to the AR-234 thats wierd.
yet again that is somthing that you degrade on and become stupid on becuse .report larry (or what ever your name is in AH) is not very hard to do every time you get on then kick you off your sbsciption. im not stupid.
been plaing for 4 months and have much more hours under my wing alredy then you have your entire subsciption. there is not a day were i am not playing. as calling myself a noob yes im young 15 to be a fact and fly model airplanes with guys as old as 90. so yet again im much nicer than most kids these days but do not get on my bad side as you have just did. also I have my own pilots licence and plane to be in marines in 3 years and become a pilot. if you see me as a 2 star general don't be suprised but almost forgot you won't be thre in that time.
its the youth that will rise and come over you old guys
So you have more hours in four months then I do In six years of playing AH? I dont think so. The last few months we have about the same amount of time played. I was "rude" on my first post because you were already told why the V-1 wouldnt be good for AH yet you kept pushing it.
"yet again that is somthing that you degrade on and become stupid on becuse .report larry (or what ever your name is in AH) is not very hard to do every time you get on then kick you off your sbsciption. im not stupid."
Is that a threat to abuse the .report function? Because I can email this page to HTC and they can take care of that REAL fast.
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its just not the first rude post that you dent me it was the second and now the third that you have sent me wichis quite easy for me t do the same to you and send this in to AH so think what your saying and don't get mad at dumb reasons
so you have been playing six years but how long have you been playing for four months I don't see you at all on MA because I play 24 hours on the weekend and at leats six hours of play during the week so I yet again have been on a lot
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Bosco please type in english we people can read what your saying. Iv been playing for six years and just because you dont see me in game does not mean I dont play. I can send this in to HTC because you said you would abuse the .report function. I dont think they would be very happy with that statement.
I play at night between 8PM and 6PM. I dont care how many hours you play what I look at is the amount of kills you have, and you dont have alot. So if you think your hot **** Ill meet you in the DA if I ever see you in MA.
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well sir ill see you there you rude son of a *****
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This one got ugly real quick :D
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The only fun to be had from the V1, IMHO, would be from chasing and shooting them down, or trying to tip them. The problem with tipping them is that the aero model would have to be very very accurate, in such a way that the close proximity of the attacking fighter's wing with that of the V1 would interupt the lift and flow of the V1's wing causing it tip over and lose control. I don't think AH could accurately model that, but I could be wrong.
It needs to be stated, for those who don't know (OP?), that the fighter's wing didn't actually come into physical contact with the V1. It just got close enough to cause the reaction described above. If I remember correctly, it was Roland Beaumont who, in his Tempest V, having expelled his ammunition attacking a V1, spotted another and gave chase. He succeded in tipping over the V1, which crashed harmlessly, and so was born the "tipping" technique. Beaumont destroyed 30 or so V1s, most of them to his guns.
BTW, I have a copy of an interview with Raymond Baxter where he tells the story of attacking a V2 site in Holland in Spit XVIs. His wing man engaged a V2 in the air! It had just been launched and was slowly(ish) accelerating vertically when it passed in front of the Spitfire. The pilot thumbed the button, scoring no noticeable results!
Anyway, back to V1. I really can't see any place for it in AH. It was so bad in the accuracy department (as pointed out by many others). It was also quite easy to shoot down with flak due to it's straight and level flight
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Originally posted by Bosco123
been plaing for 4 months and have much more hours under my wing alredy then you have your entire subsciption. there is not a day were i am not playing. as calling myself a noob yes im young 15 to be a fact and fly model airplanes with guys as old as 90. so yet again im much nicer than most kids these days but do not get on my bad side as you have just did. also I have my own pilots licence and plane to be in marines in 3 years and become a pilot. if you see me as a 2 star general don't be suprised but almost forgot you won't be thre in that time.
its the youth that will rise and come over you old guys
IT HAS SPOKEN!!! :rofl
and as for you being a noob... you are 15, which makes you not a noob... :huh
there has never been a day where i'm not playing... :O wow... that's... ALOT of days. But can you compete with dextur and axer?
Been plaing (misspeled playing btw) for 4 months and have much more hours under my wing already then you have your entire subscription. HOW WOULD YOU KNOW? seriously, you don't know HOW long HE'S been playing. And if he does play less than you, praise the lord. If you play as much as you claim you do... you need to get a life, a girlfriend, and then another life...
And last but not least.... you have wings? Since you said you had more hours under your wing... just kinda'... creeped me out:huh
Anyway... good look with the V1 thing...