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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Halo on July 07, 2007, 10:01:48 AM
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In all the gun threads, I don't think we've had one about what gun just FEELS the best to shoot. Not necessarily the most ergonomic or accurate, but what you enjoy the most simply for how the gun feels to you when it goes off.
I've shot 12-gauge, .410, .223, .357, .38 Special, .30 Carbine, 30-30, .22 (including Magnum), .40, .357 Sig, and .45 ACP, and of these, the one that FEELS the best to me is .45 ACP. Very satisfying BANG and respectable recoil, but not unpleasant. .223 feels pretty good too.
Got to thinking about this watching the movie Babel where a Moroccan kid makes an ill-advised shot with a .270 Winchester Model 70 given to a guide by an oriental hunter, then bought by the kid's father to dissuade jackels around his goat herd.
The kid and his brother seemed pretty comfortable shooting the .270. No hearing protection either. Guess that's more optional when hunting instead of target shooting? I haven't shot a .270 or .308, but those seem like they might be the rifle calibers that might FEEL the best to me since I like the .45 ACP feel.
I have no need for either caliber so probably will never buy one, especially with the cost of the shells. But interesting idea anyway.
I know how a shot feels depends a lot on what it's shot from, but there is a cartridge generality that applies to whatever it's shot from. So with whatever caveats you care to add, in general, what caliber FEELS the best to you to shoot?
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The most fun I had with a gun and my clothes on was shooting a Desert Eagle .50 cal. S&W .357 comes pretty close.
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Subjective "feel" for the recoil is dependant on several variables. You can't really quantify it since it is different for every shooter. It depends on projectile weight, caliber, powder charge, action type, gun weight, etc to a significant number of variables. What "feels" good to one may not feel good to another even if they are similar in size.
Which gun to shoot and how it feels are also dependant on what you are shooting. Hunting large and dangerous game would not feel good if you are carrying a .223 when it really calls for something like a .450. The same is true if you are just punching paper or plinking where a .22 feels better than that same .450. One is fun, the other is punishment to sit at a bench and fire off 50 rounds.
Try different calibers and see what feels good to you. You are the one that is relevent to the consideration, no one else is.
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Living here in Ohio we aren't allowed to hunt deer with centerfire rifles. So, Remington Copper Solid Sabots 12GA 2 3/4" is what I use for Whitetails. I use those with my Marlin 512 slug gun. I am confident shooting these at 100 yards.
3" #2 shot for waterfowl over decoys. Brand name doesn't make a hill of beans to me over decoys as most shots are less than 40 yards.
I don't own a handgun yet but I am looking at Springfield Armory .45ACP Trophy model. Just seems like a great weapon to me.
I used to shoot the Beretta 92 when I was in the Army. I was able to score expert with this and the gun shot very well for me.
SEstud
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O.k. little history here... back in the mid 1980's I was in the Navy and towards the end of my stint I volunteered for a tour. It seems that Iran was attacking Kuwait tankers, so the U.S. was asked for help. We came in and reflagged the tankers with U.S. flags and used U.S. ships and patrol boats to escort said tankers through the gulf. I was on one of those patrol boats and my gun was a single 40mm on the bow. It was gyro stabilzed so the barrel would stay level in all sea conditions and had a rotory drum attached that would hold 40 rounds total, 10 4 shot 'clips'. I sat in an armored tub that used foot pedals for left and right with a joystick on my right for up and down including a hat switch that controlled the ammo drum, and of course the trigger. This gun was a cut down single off of a quad 40mm from WWII and could fire 2 rounds a second. We used HE and AP the latter could penatrate 2.5 inch plate amour at 5000 yards. Even as my service continues in todays Army this was the funnest gun I've ever shot hands down...
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What feels the best to shoot is the 1911. I don't know what it is about it, but even with a decent recoil, something about it just feels so natural.
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My favourite rifle ever shot is the L1A1 (better known as the SLR). 7.62, little recoil, reasonably accurate (even given it used to be not so well built). Effective range, anything up to a mile (if it hits, whatever it hits goes down and stays down). Unfortunately, in the UK rifles require special licences, specially cleared land to use them on. Handguns are banned..ho hum.....
Have shot the L96A1 as well....(basically a snipers rifle)...very very nice, but as I cant hit a cows backside with a banjo, let alone anything with a rifle....think I'll be sticking with flying cartoon planes instead (that said, cant hit anything I shoot at with those either....:eek: )
Wurzel
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Of all the guns I've shot in my life the one that felt the best to shoot was an M110A2 8 inch self propelled howitzer. Nothing like pulling tail and feeling the ground shake under you and feeling the air get sucked out of your lungs, then the breech opens up and the powder smoke comes pouring back out at you. If that doesn't put a big grin on your face call a medic because your dead.
Next would have to be a Mk-19 automatic grenade launcher. Those things are a blast to shoot.
But as far as my personal weapons go, I'd have to choose my Remington 700BDL in 30-06. The recoil is straight back into the shoulder with no drift. It's heavy, solid, and loud, just how a rifle is supposed to feel.
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This, and I haven't shot it in about 6 months.
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Of all the Firearms I've owned the one I most enjoy or enjoyed shooting is my Model 1911 Colt Combat Commander.
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Out of all of my guns, I'd say that my Springfield M1903-A3 feels the best to shoot. I shoot 165 gr. SPBT at approx. 3000 fps, I haven't had to remove the turret caps in 20 years for scope adjustments, and it is a very well balanced rifle. Admittedly, it isn't stock. It was customized by my father before I was four years old, but it's every bit as reliable as when it was a service rifle.
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What feels the best to shoot? My load. :aok
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
What feels the best to shoot? My load. :aok
lol you had better stop firing sir. :D
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Absolute favorite gun to shoot, Main gun (105mm) from M60A1 and A3. :D
Second, the M85 cupola mounted .50 cal in the tank.
I don't have access to the tanks any more darnit.
Small arms.
M1 Garand in 06
My 12 guage OU
.45 Colt Officers model
.45 Colt Mk 4 70 series w/ S&W sights
My Glock model 19
S&W Model 66 both 4" and 2 3/4"
Marlin .22
There are others but those are the ones I reach for the most. I do miss the tanks.
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Originally posted by storch
lol you had better stop firing sir. :D
LOL, ya.. I have plenty of kids already.
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Ruger 10-22 hands down.
No big boom, (don't need to wear hearing protection)
No big wham on my shoulder.
Just a nice pop smack as another .22 goes downrange.
In my younger days empty beer bottles were my favorite target.
We had a abandoned gravel pit for our shooting range. We'd drink the beer one day and shoot the bottles the next.
Smack, crack, tinkle, Smack crack, tinkle, Smack, crack, tinkle.
Two people, 20 bottles down range. Whoever could kill his 10 fastest/ with fewest misses won.
Could do it all day long and often did, often going through a brick every 2 weeks all summer long. Back then my eyes could do the iron sights. Now I use a scope, a very good 2 - 7 variable that used to be on my dad's deer rifle. :)
And that old ruger, she still pop's em off every time. Smack, Crack, Tinkle. Ahhhh another bottle gone. Or another rabbit or Squirrel in the bag.
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Ahhh....My Dad had a little Colt Diamondback with Full-size Pachmeyer grips on it that fit my hand perfect, and the .22 LR's made it a joy to shoot. Right after that would probably be his old Colt woodsman, probably one of the best .22 auto's ever made.
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My M1 Carbine is my most favorite to shoot. You can get .30 cal ammo in surplus cheap and this baby shoots super fast in semi-auto, heck the fully auto M1 Carbine can shoot 600 rpm.
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In the relatively short list of guns, I have fired. The Bren light machine gun comes top. Very smooth, accurate, minimun recoil. Understandably not the best choice for a personal weapon.
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Browning M2 .50cal Heavy Machine Gun...... using my groin to depress the butterfly trigger.....
.... or so I heard.....
.... has this thread become disturbing yet?
Ma Duce Rulz!
"I NEVER fired my M-16 while in Iraq..... my Ma Duce on the other hand.... well, it at least NEVER jammed on me......" --- Me
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everyone is different.
a .45 is fun to shoot but I can't really say it has any recoil at all.
I like shooting my 4" 44 mag the most for handguns.. I like 22's also.
I like shooting my garand the most for rifles. Would rather carry something lighter.
I am not sure what you mean about feel. I guess that I find the tradeoff in recoil and result about right with the 44 mag and the ought six.
I "enjoy" shooting colibri 22's in the living room out of my k22 smith and wesson.. there is no recoil at all.
I like .45 kimber at close range but it has little recoil and not much oomph.
lazs
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Anyone have any opinions on the Walther P99? I really like the P22.
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Liked the M-60 over the M-2.
Garand, with the "ping" being the cherry on top. Favorite rifle, at least today.
M1 Carbine is a lot of fun (Just got my CMP Inland in last week, now to the range), so is the Enfield Mk5.
Pistol wise, 1911 has by far the best feel to me. Went in to the local shop to buy a Springfield XD-45 two weeks ago. The shop had been short on 1911s except for Kimbers, which are great guns but not what I wanted to spend. That day had a USED Springfield Mil-Spec that is pretty much govt issue but for improved sights, feed ramp, throat and lowered and scalloped ejection port -- as much custom as I want.
Now, the XD is one hell of a fine piece of modern technology, with a double stack 13-round mag that is very narrow, and a great trigger and a lot of neatness about it. But, the second I gripped the 1911 I had this instant smile on my face -- just as I remembered from the old GI 1911 I had and qualified on for about half a year in the reserves in the 1980s. There was no choice as to what I would walk out with (three days later after the waiting period). It helped that it was about $100 cheaper than a good new Mil Spec price, and AT BEST had 100 rounds put through it. No wear on the park at all, and the full Springfield accessories kit as well.
Charon
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seems that most people who shoot a garand put it at the top of the list of fun guns to shoot.
for good reason.
lazs
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Didn't Ike say the Garand was the best weapon the U.S. had in WWII? Something like that. Or maybe the Jeep. Or the Duck (sp) amphib.
Clearly I have to shoot a Garand someplace. Never have. Never shot a 30-06 for that matter. Or a .308. Somewhere sometime.
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too bad you don't live near... you could shoot mine till you puked.
If you are ever in the area.....
lazs