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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Brooke on July 07, 2007, 02:43:45 PM
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The next scenario is:
(http://ahevents.org/images/stories/scenarios_images/200710_derGrosseSchlag/DGS_BANNER.jpg)
It is November, 1944. The US 8th Air Force is exerting itself to its limits, sending enormous waves of escorted heavy bombers into Germany for wide-ranging strikes in an attempt to bring Germany to its knees. However, General Galland has gathered Luftwaffe resources and is focusing its remaining might, which is substantial. His goal is to inflict horrific losses upon the 8th Air Force, preferably enough to crack its resolve. His goal is to deliver “Der Grosse Schlag” -- The Great Blow.
This scenario will pit 8th Air Force P-51D’s, P-51B’s, P-47D-25’s, P-38J’s, P-38L's, B-24J’s, and B-17G’s against Luftwaffe Bf 109K-4’s, Bf 109G-14’s, FW 190D-9’s, and FW 190A-8’s. The US will have strategic targets to destroy, and the Luftwaffe will do all it can to take down the enemy fighters and bombers. This is a battle for supremacy in the skies over Germany.
Pilots get two lives each frame, and there will be four frames plus one practice frame. The scenario is designed for a ratio of USAAF players to Luftwaffe players of 1.0 to 0.95 (nominally 112 USAAF fighter pilots and 27 USAAF bomber pilots to 130 Axis fighter pilots).
More details, when they are available, will be posted at:
http://ahevents.org/pacific-theatre/current-or-next-scenario-2.html
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Attention command pilots:
Both the Luftwaffe and USAAF sides are looking for command staff (such as Group Leaders). If you are interested, please send a private message to Stampf (the LW CO) or Fencer51 (the USAAF CO). Let them know that you are interested, and please tell them which scenarios you've played in and in what capacity (such as where you flew as a GL).
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Sounds like a fun event.
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Fencer is the Allied CO
Stampf is the Axis CO
Gonna be one heckuva battle :)
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Are we still looking at an October start?
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October is a LONG ways off. Gives lots and lots of time to plan.
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I saw that schedule for this scenario has not yet been decided, but do you think it will be run on saturdays night (Euro time, afternoon in EST), as the other ones?
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Current thought is that it will run the same time frame as Husky with a 3pm Eastern start time.
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July... August... September... October...
Lots of time to wear myself out with the Happy Dance. :aok
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Ya I'm surprised it isn't running in September or late late August, early September.
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Giving plenty of time to plan and getting it close to the right time of year too.
I've already started polishing my B-Pony to keep up with all those bubbletop dweebs. (I know I'm actually faster at alt, shhhhhh) :cool:
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The idea is to have July for Team Lead construction, a solid month (august) of registration then another solid month of team practice (september) then run the event in October.
This should drive up attendance, and really put the training and practice times to good use.
3pm Eastern is the target time. Early for West Coasters, afternoon for East Coast and evenings for Europe.
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I was a GL on Husky and I gotta tell ya I'm looking forward to just sitting back and taking the orders on this one instead of giving them out:) .
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allow me to take this opportunity to ask all involved to quit PM'n me regarding any scenario events. I will never participate in any scenario. I have absolutely no interest at all whatsoever in sceanarios and find them to be about as much fun as watching paint dry.
thanks
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I've let the CM team know of your preference. I have no control over those individual players who might think you'd be good in them though, so you have to deal with them yourself.
But, we'll honor your request to remain completely out of anything event related.
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Sounds fun!
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Ya, this one's gonna be a rumble. Carnage on a grand scale over the skies of Germany.
To quote a friend...
"No deep thoughts, no song lyrics, no witty comments, no smack talk. Just...
KNUCKLE UP!"
The Luftwaffe Wants You.
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Originally posted by ROC
The idea is to have July for Team Lead construction, a solid month (august) of registration then another solid month of team practice (september) then run the event in October.
This should drive up attendance, and really put the training and practice times to good use.
3pm Eastern is the target time. Early for West Coasters, afternoon for East Coast and evenings for Europe.
Thanks, Fencer and ROC. I feared that. :)
Treize, thanks you too, you make me feel good every time you post...... :D
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Oh cod this sounds like something id enjoy.
Up my g14.. go straight for a horde of pee51s that promptly dive for deck and run in every direction possible and then focus on shooting down buffs that screams "i need a gunner" :D
My leather panties are already washed and ready.
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Good to hear Nilsen. Very glad to have you on the Axis side. We have plenty of A8's available too. I know how fond you are of the butcher bird.
Fly Luftwaffe.
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Originally posted by Stampf
Ya, this one's gonna be a rumble. Carnage on a grand scale over the skies of Germany.
To quote a friend...
"No deep thoughts, no song lyrics, no witty comments, no smack talk. Just...
KNUCKLE UP!"
The Luftwaffe Wants You.
lol what are you doing there then, if may ask?
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<------Stamp Axis avatar for the scenario mabey?
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time to fire up my 109 :D
this looks like a lot of fun.
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Looks like I'll be axis on this one as well.
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(ahem) The 8th AF no longer used the P-38 in late 1944. The main 8th AF fighter force in late 1944 was P-51 and P-47.
(http://home.att.net/~ww2aviation/8thAF1.gif)
I think there should be a cap for Luftwaffe air superiority fighters such as Bf 109K and Fw 190D, of at least 40 out of 130 fitghters
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1k3,
Fighter groups of the Ninth Air Force are involved in the escort role in this Sceanario, as is Historically correct for attacks beginning the week of Nov. 2nd, 1944/ yes their is a finate number of aircraft available on each side, and represented JG's and US FG's will be assigned the correct ones for the time.
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Great to have ya Biggles and Krusty !
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The P-38s in the scenario represent the 474th FG, which used the Lightning right up until VE-Day.
http://www.web-birds.com/9th/474/474th.htm
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In for the Axis!
In for the extermin... ermm indoctrinati....errrr... Nilsen give me back my leather panties!
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Stampf: Thank you
Crash: Er... they don't go on yer head, man! And I'd really suggest you dry clean 'em... Never know what kinda state they're in.
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Originally posted by 1K3
(ahem) The 8th AF no longer used the P-38 in late 1944. The main 8th AF fighter force in late 1944 was P-51 and P-47.
I think there should be a cap for Luftwaffe air superiority fighters such as Bf 109K and Fw 190D, of at least 40 out of 130 fitghters
Both the 370th FG and 474th FGs of the 9th AF were operating 38s in the escort role for the 8th in the fall of 44. The 370th was recalled from it's forward base in Belgium and located to Wattisham with the 479th.
The 474th was sent back from A78 it's forward base in Belgium to Honington where the 361st was based and flew from there in the escort roll in their 38s.
The 38s in the Scenario are representing the 428th and 429th FS's of the 474th.
428th were "The Geyser Gang" 429th were "The Retail Gang"
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/474th.jpg)
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My bad, i thought it was going to be strictly 8th inventory vs the Luftwaffe.
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stampf, if you're looking for squad leaders, i wouldn't mind taking a wing of K4's :) we'll do some runstang hunting :D
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This will be a change for me using something with cannons! :t
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er... if you're really that unfamiliar with LW cannons (I say this because I don't know your flying habits) I strongly suggest you practice with nothing else until the scenario begins. 30mm can take forever to master, and the 20mm even take some time to learn. On the bright side the G-14 has both!
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I'm not that bad with um I personally find 20MM easy to aim for some reason. I will have to work with the taters though. I just need to sake off a lil rust with the German Iron is all :)
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A8!
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Ok Stamp I tried to add the Oct '07 into the Avatar like you requested. Let me know which one you prefer or if you want any more changes to it.
Here is the Original.
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m238/Goldelks/Axis.gif)
Here is the Oct '07 in the corner.
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m238/Goldelks/Axisavatar1.gif)
Here is the Oct '07 in the bars.
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m238/Goldelks/AxisAvatar2.gif)
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Crash4U, :aok roidrage...A8, my sentimental favorite:aok
Bear, I think I like the bottom one. Looks good.
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Originally posted by Stampf
Bear, I think I like the bottom one. Looks good.
Glad to hear I was leaning towards that one as well. The one in the corner just makes it feel off balance.
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Congrats Stampf, i know you will do a great job :aok
Axis all the way
Im putting in for 109 K-4 or G-14
axis
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Thank you Rider. Remember, your MA squad has nothing to due with the units you may be assigned for the Scenario. As example, there were two JG's flying the 109 K4 on Nov 2, 1944 as represented by the following:
(http://www.4thfg.org/DGS/DGS_JG27.jpg)
and
(http://www.4thfg.org/DGS/DGS_JG300.jpg)
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pictures not loading?
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I see them Krusty.
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I let the browser sit for 10 minutes and they end up showing outlines (one narrow one wide) with red "X"s in them.
EDIT: P.S. This is killing me. I want to see what's on 'em :lol
EDIT2: They show up now! Must have been a server hiccup!
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Assignment to a G-14 may find you in one of these fine Gruppe:
(http://www.4thfg.org/DGS/DGS_JG3.jpg)
or
(http://www.4thfg.org/DGS/DGS_JG11.jpg)
or
(http://www.4thfg.org/DGS/DGS_JG26.jpg)
or
(http://www.4thfg.org/DGS/DGS_JG27.jpg)
or
(http://www.4thfg.org/DGS/DGS_JG53.jpg)
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Where's the "Alarmstart!" one?
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This one?
(http://www.4thfg.org/DGS/DGS_JG2.jpg)
JG2 is a 190 equipped gruppe. I had only put up the ones containing 109's
:aok
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God I cant wait for the rules to come out its killing me.
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Husky, it doesn't start for several months! Don't jump the gun! :p
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Originally posted by Krusty
Husky, it doesn't start for several months! Don't jump the gun! :p
Aaww how the time does fly though :)
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Had to answer that advertising blitz.
Of course, my effort is teh suk, so maybe I shouldn't bother with more...
(http://80thfs.homestead.com/4th_recruiting.jpg)
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Trieze I would do one for you but.......your kinda on the other team :p
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Nice Treize69. Really.
That's funny Bear. The Axis banners were actually made for me by my counterpart. Of course, He is just trying to soften me up with gifts. :D
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:lol
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An assignment of FW190 could land you in this...infamous unit as well.
(http://www.4thfg.org/DGS/DGS_JG54.jpg)
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"But tell us, Johnny, what's behind Door #3!"
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Are these done on Saturdays?
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Normally, 3 PM EST Saturdays, for 3-4 weeks in a row.
I don't know if they've announced this yet, but expect it to be around this time.
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Originally posted by Krusty
Normally, 3 PM EST Saturdays, for 3-4 weeks in a row.
I don't know if they've announced this yet, but expect it to be around this time.
Perfect...thank you.
<---Allies
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Woohoo! Us 71 Sqn boys sure do like the scenarios! :D
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Or for those interested in heavy Iron..
Join the "Mighty Eighth!"
(http://www.4thfg.org/DGS/DGS_1BD.jpg)
(http://www.4thfg.org/DGS/DGS_3BD.jpg)
Or be one of the "Little Friends"
(http://www.4thfg.org/DGS/DGS_56FG.jpg)
(http://www.4thfg.org/DGS/DGS_361FG.jpg)
(http://www.4thfg.org/DGS/DGS_353FG.jpg)
(http://www.4thfg.org/DGS/DGS_352FG.jpg)
(http://www.4thfg.org/DGS/DGS_357FG.jpg)
(http://www.4thfg.org/DGS/DGS_339FG.jpg)
and my personal Fave..
(http://www.4thfg.org/DGS/DGS_4FG.jpg)
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And so it begins. The gauntlets are thrown.
Fencer. All the best.
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Originally posted by Treize69
Had to answer that advertising blitz.
Of course, my effort is teh suk, so maybe I shouldn't bother with more...
Don't worry, Treize, if you wanna recruit you need no banner.... just show everybody your avatar! :D
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Don't worry, Treize, if you wanna recruit you need no banner.... just show everybody your avatar!
:rofl Oh so true. :aok
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Originally posted by Stampf
Nice Treize69. Really.
That's funny Bear. The Axis banners were actually made for me by my counterpart. Of course, He is just trying to soften me up with gifts. :D
Yet you turned down the personalized 109G14...:(
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Yet you turned down the personalized 109G14...
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by Stampf
And so it begins. The gaunlets are thrown.
Fencer. All the best.
I was dying to post yours, I love the 'ALARMSTART!!!' :rofl
So when you did, I felt I could post mine as well! :aok
Going to be alot of fun Stampf !
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Originally posted by Stampf
:rofl :rofl :rofl
What??
(http://www.4thfg.org/Fencer/funny.jpg)
Weathering not right? :huh
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Once again, Fencer has whupped my butt... :( :cry
Are we getting personalised planes?
:p :rolleyes:
(http://www.80thfs.homestead.com/AABlondie.jpg)
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Uh no :lol
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I was dying to post yours, I love the 'ALARMSTART!!!'
Yes the JG2 banner is sharp. Of course I am partiall to the JG11 one myself, but ya, the "R" gruppe shield for the unit has always been one of my fav. LW insignias.
Agreed, going to be alot of fun, and one to remember.
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I'm partial to JG 27 m'self.
Am I imagining things, or is the background of the banner the same color as that unit's reich defense tail bands?
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You are not imagining it Krusty. Indeed the background of the Axis banners are the correct color or combination of color used respectively by that Gruppe as role identifying fuse bands. An example of the thought and detail going into this scenario. :aok
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Always forgetting the 38s :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/474th-1.jpg)
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no dan, the p38s are part of the bomber groups...
couldn't resist :D
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
no dan, the p38s are part of the bomber groups...
couldn't resist :D
Well, someone has to protect us! Flying close to the bombers will keep us safe..er....well :)
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:rofl I thought they were part of the Red Ball Express.
Keep them trucks rolling Dan. :aok
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Originally posted by Stampf
:rofl I thought they were part of the Red Ball Express.
Keep them trucks rolling Dan. :aok
Well they did park them on the airfield perimeter pointing the cannons down the road during the Battle of the Bulge when the Germans started getting too close. I guess we could be an Armored division instead? :)
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Originally posted by Treize69
July... August... September... October...
Lots of time to wear myself out with the Happy Dance. :aok
I think you have the best Avatar in here...:aok
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Originally posted by Stampf
Good to hear Nilsen. Very glad to have you on the Axis side. We have plenty of A8's available too. I know how fond you are of the butcher bird.
Fly Luftwaffe.
I'm up for flying an A8 Stampf, been messing around in that thing looking for buffs, have to say, the A8 is deadly when you get in the right position.
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hmmmm... Hun Hunting in P51B or Buff Busting in FW 190A-8? Decisions, decisions....
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Originally posted by Hawco
I'm up for flying an A8 Stampf, been messing around in that thing looking for buffs, have to say, the A8 is deadly when you get in the right position.
Great to have you Hawco ! Oh yes, the A8 is a blast, and used correctly we will rip gaping holes in the Allied formations. .
(http://www.jg11.org/cpg1412/albums/userpics/10003/normal_b26downx.JPG)
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Originally posted by Lusche
hmmmm... Hun Hunting in P51B or Buff Busting in FW 190A-8? Decisions, decisions....
Your choice of course Lusche. I would personally like to see you with the Axis, and do hope that is the way you go. .
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Originally posted by Lusche
hmmmm... Hun Hunting in P51B or Buff Busting in FW 190A-8? Decisions, decisions....
You ARE a Hun. That help?
Oh wait, I don't want to have to try and kill you.
Yeah, P-51s are good too. :D
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Always forgetting the 38s :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/474th-1.jpg)
Oh good its SAPP approved. I was worried it wouldnt be officially endorsed. :rolleyes: :D
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October...Ouch ! I joined in May and luckily was able to participate in the Operation Husky scenario in June. At the time I thought they ran Scenarios every other month ! Well, I'm looking forwad to this one, looks great too. Thanks to all who set these things up
Avenger8
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Originally posted by Treize69
You ARE a Hun. That help?
In that case I guess I would have to dust off my Pickelhaube again.
(http://www.dhm.de/lemo/objekte/pict/f60_1221/index.jpg)
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...and they wonder why we HO so much. Sheeesh...Wouldn't you. :)
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Man I wish I had the pic of me great-grandpappy scanned, taken in 1917 or 1918 when he was home on leave and seeing his daughter for the first time. No pickelhaube but definitely German. And my relatives still live in the house in the pic too.
I need a scanner.
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Originally posted by Stampf
...and they wonder why we HO so much. Sheeesh...Wouldn't you. :)
To erase that ugly face?!? Sure I'd do! :D
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:lol I wonder how much that tunic weighed...all decked out with that hardware?
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Originally posted by Avenger8
October...Ouch ! I joined in May and luckily was able to participate in the Operation Husky scenario in June. At the time I thought they ran Scenarios every other month ! Well, I'm looking forwad to this one, looks great too. Thanks to all who set these things up
Avenger8
no, we run the huge scenario's about 3-4 times a year ... We try to bring out new ones to correspond with a new terrain .. but our Terrain Team is busy with the rebuilds after this last verson of AH. There's alot of work that has to go into this stuff .
we have FSO that runs almost every week , snapshots, racing , koth, and Sunday nite thats gonna pick up more regulary in the fall .
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Always forgetting the 38s :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/474th-1.jpg)
Ouch man I asked for the group colors several times... :confused: :furious :aok
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Originally posted by Krusty
I'm partial to JG 27 m'self.
Am I imagining things, or is the background of the banner the same color as that unit's reich defense tail bands?
I was wondering if anyone besides Stampf and I would pick up on that. :aok
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Fencer, check the skins request thread in skins and sounds, and any more projects welcomed. Gives me something to do at 3am on my days off. :)
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I just noticed- No 20th!!!
WTF?? :furious :noid
(http://lhschons.podomatic.com/2005-12-22T19_46_14-08_00.jpg)
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Treize I got 112 Fighters Pilots as Allied CO. I cannot staff every darn FG in the 8th AF.. :rofl
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Well they did park them on the airfield perimeter pointing the cannons down the road during the Battle of the Bulge when the Germans started getting too close. I guess we could be an Armored division instead? :)
Ouch! Can you imagine?...damn.
"'aight boys, they're coming. Get out there in them der trucks, and when those Panthers break through the treeline,...let em have it."
Nuts.
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Originally posted by Fencer51
Treize I got 112 Fighters Pilots as Allied CO. I cannot staff every darn FG in the 8th AF.. :rofl
Well youre a one man air force, so you can be the 4th all by yourself :p
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MINE!! MINE!!
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:rofl
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I hope my entire squad gets in on this with me nutty and clerick.
Will be great to wing up with some other 51d pilots
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Sounds like the title for a pr0n movie tbh.
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Been knocking a few buffs down here and there in the A8 and I'm starting to get used to it,
Got bounced by a Pony D model last night, That gave me a lot of confidence in the A8 as I managed to keep outrolling him, even when he had the alt and E etc, Eventually we got down to around 6-8k and he ended up bugging out as a few other guys turned up, Now I'm not saying that I'm some Great stick or anything silly like that, It's Just that the Aircraft had enough up it's sleeve to get me out of trouble, Even when I lost my right elevator and airelon, I still out rolled the guy and evaded the worst of it.
Now in this Scenario, I don't think the ponys etc are going to have the time to try and cherry the A8s as there will be K4's and G-14's lurking around.
So all in all I'm looking forward to this and I feel quite confident of at least having the ability to get outa dodge quickly.
Can't wait now to be honest! :aok
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No looftwaffle is ever "honest" :t
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Sounds like a target rich environment for Pony Ds and 38s
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(http://www.jg11.org/cpg1412/albums/userpics/10002/normal_Bf109_Stigler1024.jpg)
Interceptions beginning in October!
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Yep, that's right. Interceptions begin in October :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/38LW.jpg)
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It's started already and it's only July lol
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Originally posted by Hawco
It's started already and it's only July lol
Well us twin engined bomber pilots gotta get started early ya know :)
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We'll see if we can't get you an airstart for those P-38's. ;)
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Yeah, if we spawn them at 30k they only have 20 more to climb before leveling. That should help a lot.
:t :O :aok
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You know I'm scared of heights!
30K?
I belong on the deck.....yeah that's it. Down low hunting 109s or maybe........:D
We twin-engined bomber pilots have always been a rational bunch you know :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/oops.jpg)
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Looking forward to it.
B24 for me please
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Originally posted by Guppy35
We twin-engined bomber pilots have always been a rational bunch you know :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/oops.jpg)
Ladies and Gentlemen, Guppy is missing. This is the last known photo of him, taken from a charred and damaged camera. If you have any info as to his wherabouts please contact Allied CO Fencer, or the 8th AF command staff. A small reward will be given if you aid in his safe return.
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Air Starts = Bad for Scenarios.
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'Twas a joke.
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Was just saying. Before you even posted that I had a bad feeling that there might be a air start and that wouldn't be good.
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Originally posted by Krusty
Ladies and Gentlemen, Guppy is missing. This is the last known photo of him, taken from a charred and damaged camera. If you have any info as to his wherabouts please contact Allied CO Fencer, or the 8th AF command staff. A small reward will be given if you aid in his safe return.
False Alarm! I'm OK. Nothing a few bandaids and some duct tape won't take care of.
Thanks for your concern :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/dead38.jpg)
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Just make sure you do it right. Band-aids go on the plane, duct tape goes on the pilot!
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Air Starts = Bad for Scenarios.
Opinions are Clearly different than Facts :)
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Originally posted by Guppy35
False Alarm! I'm OK. Nothing a few bandaids and some duct tape won't take care of.
Thanks for your concern :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/dead38.jpg)
You get a bee in cockpit again Dan? :rofl
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Wow, one of the better landings I've seen Guppy make :D
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What the...?!?!?!
Guppy landed something?!?!?! WHEN?!
:t
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Originally posted by Krusty
What the...?!?!?!
Guppy landed something?!?!?! WHEN?!
:t
I land all the time. What's the problem?
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Waterlanding.jpg)
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"What's the problem?"
It's still right side up
;)
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Originally posted by ROC
Opinions are Clearly different than Facts :)
Anytime you give one side a 20K alt head start its bad. That just gives them more time to climb into space. If they want to go high, then they should be forced to pay for going high by climbing for hours to get there, not just given the alt.
But again thats just a opinion.
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Originally posted by Husky01
Anytime you give one side a 20K alt head start its bad. That just gives them more time to climb into space. If they want to go high, then they should be forced to pay for going high by climbing for hours to get there, not just given the alt.
But again thats just a opinion.
But of course letting the LW camp at 35K waiting for em is realistic too :)
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Originally posted by Guppy35
But of course letting the LW camp at 35K waiting for em is realistic too :)
Realistic and making the event fun for all is a huge balance. By letting some one camp at 35k sure it will be fun for the 35k team but the others sure wont be thrilled when they get hit by 35K pilots.
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Thats why the one-off scenarios usually have the wind layer set to keep you below 30K.
Besides, most AH planes don't seem to me like they fly "right" above about 25K anyway, I've caught 109s wallowing (or been the wallower) above that when they should have been flying rings around any USAAF fighters in the setup. Heck, I've had WEP on in a G6 and at that height its all I can do to maintain a 1K climb with DT and gondolas.
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Originally posted by Husky01
Realistic and making the event fun for all is a huge balance. By letting some one camp at 35k sure it will be fun for the 35k team but the others sure wont be thrilled when they get hit by 35K pilots.
That's the point.
Getting it so it's fair for both sides.
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Just keep him away from the P-51s. Hes contageous.
(http://www.geocities.com/koala51d/na73crash.jpg)
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Anytime you give one side a 20K alt head start its bad
Taking a great deal of latitude in statements like this Husky. How can you be so bold as to comment with absolution when you have no idea why some events are designed with air starts, why maps were Specifically built with air starts.
There are no head starts, no advantage, no "unfair" conditions that cannot be overcome by someone with half an ounce of sense. There are Ample examples of players who cannot think around a corner and Need an event to be designed down to the smallest detail, but I'm not interested in playing the events for them, so you're just going to have to figure out a way to deal with the hardships.
I'd be the first one to enjoy an event where I had to Launch and there was an airstart right off the coast of say Hawaii, and I had to scramble to get out of the way of, say, some pesky Japanese Zekes or something. Sound too complicated? Don't join Pearl when the terrain finally completes. Really, Don't, because you won't like it and airstarts in that event are liable to occur.
Downfall "could" have simulated the long flight the US Iron would have had to make by launching them from a land base, making them fly across the map 3 times before they headed for Japan, but AirStarts sure did help to eliminate That added 5 hours to the event.
There is a reason for every air start in every event that had them, but I'm not going to explain it to you, your going to have to crack open your brain and think it through yourself.
Anytime?
Airstarts = Bad for Scenarios?
Please, I enjoy it when players contribute to event discussions, but for goodness sakes at least bring something to the discussion instead of half thought out opinions, please tell me you are worth more than that in a discussion.
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Ok what if I said Air Starts for this next scenario might not be the smartest thing? The allies already have a HUGE plane advantage at alt. So why give the more alt? Bombers in this game at 30K are almost un touchable as is, give them superior escorts at 30K+ who knows what will happen.
Now I completely get the air starts when having a great distance to fly, but cant you Air Spawn them at like 3k? In past events when Ive been in air starts its like 10K or 15K and given if a team has a superior high alt plane set, giving them more alt to start with might not go so smoothly. Then again I'm fine with air starts IF the bombers are given a alt cap, cause 35K+ bombers isn't very fun for the opposing team, and that is what scenarios are about.
Then again for all I know there arnt air starts in this Scenario so whys it matter!:D
Ill change my original statement to Air Starts are fine IF the right rules are inline that insure fair and fun game play for all.
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but cant you Air Spawn them at like 3k?
No Way! I lose 8K when I airspawn! lol
And you know I wasn't being harsh on you, I just have dealt with you often enough that I expected more, I mean, it's not like your New at this.
And so you know, we aren't even using them in this event, because after a lengthy discussion found no need for them
:p
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Originally posted by ROC
No Way! I lose 8K when I airspawn! lol
And you know I wasn't being harsh on you, I just have dealt with you often enough that I expected more, I mean, it's not like your New at this.
And so you know, we aren't even using them in this event, because after a lengthy discussion found no need for them
:p
Good to hear that there not in the next event. I do believe that for the next scenario thats the right choice to make.:aok
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Can't we all get along nicely?:D
(http://www.jg11.org/cpg1412/albums/userpics/10003/normal_luftwaffe.jpg)
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Yes, and no.
Some of yes.
But mostly no!
At least, once we get into the SEA on frame day, all bets are off!!!
Until then, yes we can get along! :D
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Nice picture. The 2 guys in the back have pistols out and aimed at the 4 in front. Guy on the right is whispering through his teeth "Shut up, smile and wave for the media, and no one get's hurt"
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Originally posted by ROC
Nice picture. The 2 guys in the back have pistols out and aimed at the 4 in front. Guy on the right is whispering through his teeth "Shut up, smile and wave for the media, and no one get's hurt"
:rofl Actually made me chuckle out loud.
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The DGS General Forum is now open and located under the Special Events header. Please move conversations to that board, and let us all strive to keep the board clean, and conduct ourselves in a manner fitting those whom we will be portraying in the event.
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Originally posted by stockli
I hope my entire squad gets in on this with me nutty and clerick.
Will be great to wing up with some other 51d pilots
Yup, sure would like to fly with the 4th! :aok
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Originally posted by Nutzoid
Yup, sure would like to fly with the 4th! :aok
Doggone Spam Can drivers....
Kids these days :)
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Originally posted by Krusty
"But tell us, Johnny, what's behind Door #3!"
Well Bob, It's a New car! Oh wait, wrong board. How about an all expenses paid trip to Wonderland...where you can strap in and ride one of our many new and upgraded thrill rides.
You could find yourself here:
(http://www.jg11.org/cpg1412/albums/userpics/10002/normal_JG7_banner.jpg)
or...
for you more daring horsepower types:
(http://www.jg11.org/cpg1412/albums/userpics/10002/normal_JG400_banner_1.jpg)
All of this could be yours just for playing Der Grosse Schlag!
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I'd up an A-8 and fun with yall.......that is if I wasnt going to be blowing up a bunch of your toilet paper and prophylactic factories. :D
Originally posted by Stampf
Well Bob, It's a New car! Oh wait, wrong board. How about an all expenses paid trip to Wonderland...where you can strap in and ride one of our many new and upgraded thrill rides.
You could find yourself here:
(http://www.jg11.org/cpg1412/albums/userpics/10002/normal_JG7_banner.jpg)
or...
for you more daring horsepower types:
(http://www.jg11.org/cpg1412/albums/userpics/10002/normal_JG400_banner_1.jpg)
All of this could be yours just for playing Der Grosse Schlag!
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You can bomb our "heads" but never our hearts. :aok
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Originally posted by Stampf
You can bomb our "heads" but never our hearts. :aok
Deal!:aok
(be mindfull that we have a standing " no bar bombing" policy. So all is not lost. :) )
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Ach die Liebe! Doesn't he know? Here in Germany, EVERYWHERE is a bar! I'm making beer under my flying cap right now!
In the land of 100,000 micro breweries, EVERYWHERE is a bar!
And just to let you know which places not to bomb, we've put German flags on all the bars. Don't bomb anything with german flags, or else you destroy the beer!
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Originally posted by blkmgc
Deal!:aok
(be mindfull that we have a standing " no bar bombing" policy. So all is not lost. :) )
Not to worry, the 38 drivers of the 474th are tasked with going in low and stealing all the alcohol.
A bar without booze is just another building. Blow em off the map :)
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Stampf, your signature.. is that German by Babelfish? ;)
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Ich habe kartoffelsalat in meine lederhosen.
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Lushce, I was wondering the same thing...
I seem to recall somebody on the forums with the english version, and I think it goes "Find your enemy and shoot them down... That is all that is important" or something. It doesn't translate literally.
Let's see... I'm quite rusty, but I think I might have translated it as:
"Finden Sie diene Feind, und shiessen ihn ab... Nur ist das wichtig"
But then, I might be typing gibberish to folks like Lusche :D
EDIT: :rofl @ Treize
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Stampf's signature line:
"Finden Sie Ihren Feind und schießen Sie ihn unten - Nichts, das sonst ist, ist wichtig."
The English translation of that would be:
"Find your (personal) enemy and shoot him bottom - Nothing, that else is, is important"
His words put into real German should read:
"Finden Sie den Feind und schiessen Sie ihn ab, alles andere ist nicht wichtig."
And this is the original Manfred von Richthofen quote:
"Finde den Feind und schiesse ihn ab, alles andere ist Unsinn"
:aok
And Treize's German is almost perfect, but I really wonder how that stuff got there... ;)
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I disagree...though this is hardly worth discussing.
The literal translation of my sig into English is:
"If you find your enemy, and if you shoot it down, nothing that was, is important."
Of course, my German is rusty, and my exposure to the launguage as a young person was a weeeee bit of a time ago so I ask forgiveness if some syntax is off.
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Well, think of it this way. We're not picking on you, just discussing it.
Also, it's a free bump for the thread! :t
Not that it needs it, mind you, but it keeps the thread going.
So, no it doesn't really matter, but it's something to discuss (politely, mind you).
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Originally posted by Stampf
I disagree...though this is hardly worth discussing.
The literal translation of my sig into English is:
"If you find your enemy, and if you shoot it down, nothing that was, is important."
No it's not really worth discussing. ;)
And it's not meant disrespectful in any way if I do now have to say:
This literal translation you are giving is completely wrong, not only a bit off in syntax.
There is no reference to any "if" in your German version, it is no conditional sentece at all.
"Wenn Sie ihren Feind finden und abschiessen, dann ist alles, was einmal war, unwichtig" would be the German version of it.
The original Richhofen quote "Finde den Feind und schiesse ihn ab, alles andere ist unsinn" translates to "Find the enemy and shoot him down, everything else is nonsense"
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Thanks Lusche.
That's what I was looking for.
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So how high does the allied air force get to climb before engagement? Besides the 152, the LW has nothing to match the allied fighters above 25k.
Not a whine, an honest question.
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Originally posted by Treize69
Ich habe Hasselhoff in meine lederhosen.
Corrected a spelling error.
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Moot,
Rules here:
http://ahevents.org/images/stories/scenarios_images/200710_derGrosseSchlag/rules.html (http://)
There is incentive for the Allies to attack the LW at low alts, as well as the high alt bombing offensive. We (the LW) must concentrate on a three dimensional battle plan, and that is exactly what we shall implement in the event. Tactics and strategy will outweigh the slight allied plane performance advantage, and after the slaughter of Frame 1, I'm sure you will see adjustments on the allied side in an effort to defeat our superior battleplan. :aok
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link is jacked up, stampf.
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The tools the axis have are adequate to secure victory. A hammer is a hammer. It only fails if you miss the nail.
We've been working on our nail-alignment-and-hitting-system and intend not to miss it ;)
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hmmmm, ya, see that Hub.
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" the LW has nothing to match the allied fighters above 25k."
Moot point because the LW fighter are more than a match for the bombers which is what the LW will be looking for to kill. If the LW gets involved in a dogfight of any kind then the saying that "it's the pilot, not the plane" is proved out once again- even in an online game. It means the LW pilot(s) was a dweeb of enormous proportion.
The LW pilot just needs to make one pass, get just one kill and they have succeeded while the Allied "pilots" have failed. It's a veritable "rout" if the LW is permitted to re-assemble for a rinse-and-repeat after that first pass.
If I were LW I'd love to be in the group that runs into a flight of Allied fighter who are slobbering for a dogfight. Because my goal would be half way achieved and the enemy more than happy to give me the remainder with no effort.
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I, personally, disagree with "it's the pilot, not the plane"... Put 1 pilot in a mig17 and another in an f-22 with 100-mile stand-off high-tech missiles.
You tell me where the skill comes into play :D
However, the outcome won't be entirely decided by the aircraft in use. It will be squad-level tactics, wingmen, timing, events, and location location location!
That, more than the plane type, will determine the outcome.
My $0.02
P.S. I would have liked the 152 only because I like that ride, but I can live without it!
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Krusty that's an abysmal analogy. It's as simple as this - a stupid pilot in the best plane cannot match a smart pilot in an inferior one. You're wrong but that is ok. diff of opinion and all. It is the stuff scenario AAR's are made of however. Someone gets to brag, some will whine and a few will learn.
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Fair enough description, but not a complete one.
You're wrong in that 2 equal pilots in different planes will show that the plane does matter.
The converse (your point) is also true, but cannot be made a rule because it is not always true.
Sure a stupid pilot in a good plane isn't as good as a good pilot in a good plane....
But a stupid pilot in a good plane has much more leeway for mistakes than a good pilot in a bad plane.
And with equal pilots (bad or good) the plane itself can dictate the victor, if (for example) a spit16 goes up against a 190a8.
I disagree only with the way the statement "it's the pilot, not the plane" is given as a universal law. It is not constant, and does in fact fluctuate.
However, this small aside should reinforce to forum-goers that the plane choice in this scenario is not going to be a problem, as long as we give the right orders at the right time to the right units, the job will get done.
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Rules (http://ahevents.org/images/stories/scenarios_images/200710_derGrosseSchlag/rules.html)
Some interesting stuff in there. Looks like it should be a fun one. Thinking I may have try for a LW spot- hitting the buffs and getting out alive should be a real white knuckle run.
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However, this small aside should reinforce to forum-goers that the plane choice in this scenario is not going to be a problem, as long as we give the right orders at the right time to the right units, the job will get done.
:aok
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Rules (http://ahevents.org/images/stories/scenarios_images/200710_derGrosseSchlag/rules.html)
Some interesting stuff in there. Looks like it should be a fun one. Thinking I may have try for a LW spot- hitting the buffs and getting out alive should be a real white knuckle run.
We would love to have you Hubs.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Thinking I may have try for a LW spot- hitting the buffs and getting out alive should be a real white knuckle run.
That's exactly what I was thinking, too!
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My use of that phrase was indeed an over generalization. We're essentially on the same page imo Krusty.
Happy hunting and good luck in October. (weekend frames again... :( )
Last AH scenario I recall fully participating in was "Bigweek" back in Nov-Dec, 2001. I hurled umpteen tasty 30mm spuds at Allied bombers for the Fatherland and my recollection of the outcome was it was so one sided that "slaughter" would be too kind a word to use. :)
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Well a lot as changed since late 2001. Come, join us!
"It is your destiny!"
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Mein Luftkissenfahrzeug wird mit Aalen gefüllt.
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Originally posted by Treize69
Mein Luftkissenfahrzeug wird mit Aalen gefüllt.
My hovercraft is full of eels. eels.
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Exactly. Exactly.
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Originally posted by Westy
My use of that phrase was indeed an over generalization. We're essentially on the same page imo Krusty.
Happy hunting and good luck in October. (weekend frames again... :( )
Last AH scenario I recall fully participating in was "Bigweek" back in Nov-Dec, 2001. I hurled umpteen tasty 30mm spuds at Allied bombers for the Fatherland and my recollection of the outcome was it was so one sided that "slaughter" would be too kind a word to use. :)
Hajo has a P47D waiting for ya Westy.
Don't forget about "Westy's Wagon" :)
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Yes I have a D25 all picked out for Westy!
Wet Bar....bigscreen. I was going to get him an M Model (big enuff for lap dancers) but unfortunately they hadn't arrived yet.
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(http://www.78thfightergroup.com/history/comfortjugcomic.jpg)
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Yes, but German planes have built-in beer kegs!
We've got one on tap for you, if you like :D
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One of my good friends has asked me if I'll participate.
Soup (4510), I'll fly Axis for this event. This will be my first Scenario.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
One of my good friends has asked me if I'll participate.
Soup (4510), I'll fly Axis for this event. This will be my first Scenario.
1st one Karaya? Wow, you will have a blast!
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Bout time Karaya :) Will be good to see you in there.
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More Good news for the good guys. Glad I got out of bed today. Welcome Karaya. We are very glad to have you.
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Originally posted by Stampf
More Good news for the good guys. Glad I got out of bed today. Welcome Karaya. We are very glad to have you.
Just remember Karaya is trying to take my blame it all on Corky title away.
Could be he'll be the reason the LW struggles in this one :)
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I'm pretty sure that I'll be the reason the LW struggles on this one, thankyaverramuch :D
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Originally posted by Krusty
I'm pretty sure that I'll be the reason the LW struggles on this one, thankyaverramuch :D
Nah, I'm average at best. Never done one, will be in the LW rides until the scenario goes down.
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That's a good idea. I've been trying to do that, also, but I have varied tastes, and can't help but find myself in the occasional mustang sortie, or hellcat, or c205. :D
Then again, I *DID* get an air to air WGr21 kill last night in my 190a8 vs a lancaster. Got that on film, too. It was sweet! I guess all the practice with the 190A8 has paid off lately.
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Just a note: Recruitment is taking place now, but we have plenty of time if you don't want to rush.
I'm still looking for any diehard Fw190A-8 fans, as I have 12 of them and 2/3 of them are still free.
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Yep recruitment is going full speed even though registration has not started. Anyone interested in flying Allies feel free to PM me.
Cheers
(http://www.4thfg.org/DGS/DGS_RECRUITING.jpg)
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We've got a decent number of 24's, but need more to fill the ranks. Will gladly train on formations ect if need be.PM here, or register at our site. (link in sig)
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Good point!
If you want to fly something because it's new to you (i.e. you never do bombers) but never want to because you're not too good at it, NOW is the time to practice! We have quite some time, so you have 2-3 months to practice!
Be it B24s, P38s, Fw190s, or 109s, don't be afraid to pick a plane just because you think it's cool! You've got time to get "good" in it!
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Originally posted by Krusty
snip.....You've got time to get "good" in it!
Hmmmm....:D
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Redtop would look good Dressed in a P-51 :D
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Perhaps...if the dress was leather.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Nah, I'm average at best. Never done one, will be in the LW rides until the scenario goes down.
I would hope all planning on flying for the good guys will be doing likewise. Our competition is stiff, and more than well aquainted with their rides for this scenario, as me and Gaidin experienced tonight while in an ack testing session with ROC, Roo, and Fencer. Practice up guys. They are team rides, and excell when used properly.
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ah Stampf , hell we shoulda filmed that second fight ... that was a white knuckle rush of a dogfight we had going . It could of went either way .
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Too much fun. Enjoyed it Muchly :aok
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Originally posted by Stampf
I would hope all planning on flying for the good guys will be doing likewise. Our competition is stiff, and more than well aquainted with their rides for this scenario, as me and Gaidin experienced tonight while in an ack testing session with ROC, Roo, and Fencer. Practice up guys. They are team rides, and excell when used properly.
I have a dilemma, I rolled the K4 (which I'd like to be in) and got kilt. Rolled the 109F4 out of the hanger and landed 2 sorties of 5 and 3 kills respectively. :confused:
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By all means continue to practice in the F4, it is close enough. :aok
Great fights last night Gaidin, Stampf and Roscoroo.
I spent about 45 minutes flying around in the ack over a target in B17s from 6k to 15k and took 3 hits and NO visable damage. ROC flew over in a P-51D and died in 3 minutes despite flying nice evasives.
Doubling or even upping the ack to "50" did nothing to increase the hits of the Puffy ack. However the airbases became defended by CIWS.
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Originally posted by Fencer51
By all means continue to practice in the F4, it is close enough. :aok
Allied propoganda!!!!
:D :t
It's good to get used to the F-4, but it's a LOT lighter and turns MUCH better than the K-4, and it has a completely different engine and weapons package.
It's good to learn moves in the F4, but don't rely on it to just jump in a K4 and expect to do as well. K4 won't turn as well, but will climb a LOT better, accelerate a LOT better, but the main thing is you need to practice with the 30mm gun.
Try the G14... It's a bit more nimble than the K4 but has the same gun option. Practicing in the G14 is much closer to the K4, and you'll learn the weapon ballistics and aiming.
The K4 itself is easy to "get into a killing position" -- it's an excellent plane -- but the problem is getting kills with the taters. Get in CLOSE. Very close. 200 or less. Also, don't do any crossing snapshots (where he's going one way you're another) because they will fly right through your taters without taking hits.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I have a dilemma, I rolled the K4 (which I'd like to be in) and got kilt. Rolled the 109F4 out of the hanger and landed 2 sorties of 5 and 3 kills respectively. :confused:
I can not answer any more thoroughly than Krusty did. I will add one more thought about the K-4, which applies to all the 109 series fighters. Saddle up! I mean right up close like the bandit is your girl. When your right up in her back pockets...squeeze off a tater.
No fear sir, the Axis leadership has completley forgon MA time for the next few month's in order to organize, facilitate and take part in a massive scenario specific training program full of OpFor and ride specific sessions. Once Registration begins (very soon) and you enter the Axis forums, you will see the scope of the commitment your Axis allies have made, in order to insure our pilots are as well equipped as possible to handle the well trained allied jocks. Throw in a whole month of Dry runs before the first frame, and you will have ample time to reach a suffucient level of familiarity in your chosen ride.
As equally important will be flying along side your "new squadmates" and that is where the side specific training comes in. Jump right in Karaya ! You will enjoy it. I sure am. Getting to work so closely with these guys has already been the highlight of my AH career. Like all things sir, what you invest will determine the payout in the end. I had more fun and better dogfights in a couple of hours of ACK setting testing last night than I can usually find in a couple weeks of MA drudgery.
The team here who comes the closest to achieving real "team" status, will carry the day.
Fencer, I enjoyed it very much.
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If you find you REALLY REALLY can't do anything with the 30mm, learn to fly the G14 with just the 20mm hub gun. Axis team has quite a few G14s, and you'd be able to choose the weapon you like.
I was unable to get any 30mm hits for a long time (not counting bombers). It was almost impossible.
Then one day, after not having used a nose 30mm against fighters or several years, I took one up.
I landed 8 kills. I could do no wrong. No matter what the enemy did I got a kill on him with "Teh Spudz"... Something just "clicked" in my head and I was able to.
Now I just need to get that clicking sound back :rofl
EDIT ^-- By that I mean I'm out of practice now
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ROC is going to set up the SEA arena tonight as there is no event running. Come one and all for a fun filled time, training, and bust'n up Fencer's heavies.
Buff targ..pilots welcome of course.
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I read the rules. It's looking good. :aok
I'm just curious as to what is the icon range going to be set at.
I'm not a great pilot, but I do pretty well in the K4 against buffs, so I plan on signing up for the Luftwaffe.
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K4s might be sent after fighters (who knows at this point?)
Rules ought to list the icon setting as set to "near" (3k). There's an arena settings table down towards the end.
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Originally posted by StuB
I read the rules. It's looking good. :aok
I'm just curious as to what is the icon range going to be set at.
I'm not a great pilot, but I do pretty well in the K4 against buffs, so I plan on signing up for the Luftwaffe.
I hope you enjoy it Stub, Stampf and Krusty will see you right.
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Originally posted by Fencer51
I hope you enjoy it Stub, Stampf and Krusty will see you right.
WHO have you been talking to!??!
:noid :noid :noid
Stampf, we've got a breach in one of the DNDs!
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Should be fun to shake the rust off over 10k
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No need to shake it off sir. Should all be come off nicely upon impact. :p
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I'd say the LW and Allied birds were breaking up quite nicely last night. I scattered many a 38J part and scattered some LW parts too :)
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Lot's of parts flying last night.
I was in a Really fun looping fight with a P38, Mensa I think lol he was Always getting me last night, kept going nose to nose with him, thinking, I'm not gonna shoot, I wonder if He's gonna shoot. No shots fired after several nose on passes, which I really enjoyed. My 109 was Loaded with fuel lol
Oh, then someone shot me in the arse :(
Gonna have to do more of those, if nothing else, to keep the blood flowing. I think a few new people ended up really looking forward to the event :)
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Originally posted by ROC
Lot's of parts flying last night.
I was in a Really fun looping fight with a P38, Mensa I think lol he was Always getting me last night, kept going nose to nose with him, thinking, I'm not gonna shoot, I wonder if He's gonna shoot. No shots fired after several nose on passes, which I really enjoyed. My 109 was Loaded with fuel lol
Oh, then someone shot me in the arse :(
Gonna have to do more of those, if nothing else, to keep the blood flowing. I think a few new people ended up really looking forward to the event :)
FBmesa was winging with me in that fight and Stampf I think was with you. I got you, Stampf got me. I was trying to clear Mensa and Stampf was clearing you :)
Not sure who was last one standing.
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I had a great time last night until I had to leave for real life duties.
I would like to thank the 474th for an outstanding job flying their bombers.
(I dint know bombers could turn like that!)
Anyway was a pleasure to fly alongside of the Geyser gang. I can see already two squads working well together.
The Wolfpack and the Geyser gang.
Hajo
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Originally posted by Hajo
I had a great time last night until I had to leave for real life duties.
I would like to thank the 474th for an outstanding job flying their bombers.
(I dint know bombers could turn like that!)
Anyway was a pleasure to fly alongside of the Geyser gang. I can see already two squads working well together.
The Wolfpack and the Geyser gang.
Hajo
Someone's gotta look out for those Spam can drivers :)
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Originally posted by Guppy35
FBmesa was winging with me in that fight and Stampf I think was with you. I got you, Stampf got me. I was trying to clear Mensa and Stampf was clearing you :)
Not sure who was last one standing.
Well out of the four of us, I was, but it wasn't me who got Mensa. I thought it was good to get some early exposure for the sides. If for nothing else, it certainly confirmed that DGS is going to be an outright Brawl! You could feel the passion that everyone was flying with.
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I feel like I've gotta ration the excitment cause I'm ready to fly it right now :)
It's going to be fun and a great brawl.
Now where are those 109Ks to shoot at? :)
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Ground crew is still collecting the pieces of mine...:o
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Originally posted by Stampf
Ground crew is still collecting the pieces of mine...:o
I have cyber Lockheed stock options. The more they produce the more money I make. In that regards I wreck mine as often as possible so they have to build more to keep me flying.
It's a win-win situation. Brand new 38s for me every flight and a big check in the mail too :)
I'd suggest buying Messerschmitt stock. Heaven knows they're gonna have to go into over drive with all the falling 109s this fall :aok
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Were accepting reserve slots for 2nd Bomber div (b24's). Drop a line HERE (http://ah550th.debdenboys.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66) , and we'll get you added in.
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357th FG P-51b/d's Has availiable slots in DGS ,,, Come fly with us !!!
(PM me if interested )
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Time is passing.....
Bomber pilots are needed for the 1st Bomb Division in Der Grosse Schlag. PM Filth or myself for a slot!
SIM
Commanding Officer
8th AF Bomber Command
1st Bomb Division
Der Grosse Schlag
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Any 190a-5, f-8, or a-8 pilots that enjoy flying the radial version of the FW should contact myself or husky01. We each have separate Fw190A-8 units (12 pilots each) and are looking for interested pilots to fill them.
We've got a date with the bombers, and we mustn't keep them waiting :t
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Just to make sure you know its Husky01. but yes any 190 pilots please contact me if you interested this is sure to be a great one!
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That's what I typed.... :noid :noid :noid :noid
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Yep, I see Husky01 as well.
Gee Husky, you loosing it or what?
:D
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Must be. We all know that once it's been posted it's permanent.
:noid :aok
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Yep I'm going insane!:D
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(http://www.jg11.org/cpg1412/albums/userpics/10003/normal_rammjager.jpg)
Where do I sign up ? :D
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Verdammt!
I screwed up on my "gear depression scale" markings on the gear doors, last time I put 'em on a skin....
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Landing gear just causes undesirable weight while flying. Since I never have the need to actually Use them, I just eject them after launch. Doesn't matter to me if the markings are wrong :D
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Bah, that might work in your NORMAL choice of ride, but we're forced to lug our gear around, because belly landing or ditching in a 190A8 (even when safe and intact) will kill you and send you back to the tower seconds after you come to a rest.
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Originally posted by Krusty
Bah, that might work in your NORMAL choice of ride, but we're forced to lug our gear around, because belly landing or ditching in a 190A8 (even when safe and intact) will kill you and send you back to the tower seconds after you come to a rest.
You just don't know how to do it.
As one who doesn't even accept the existance of landing gear, I can get anything down in a belly landing :)
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Originally posted by Krusty
Any 190a-5, f-8, or a-8 pilots that enjoy flying the radial version of the FW should contact myself or husky01. We each have separate Fw190A-8 units (12 pilots each) and are looking for interested pilots to fill them.
We've got a date with the bombers, and we mustn't keep them waiting :t
Yeah, twin engined bombers, 24 strong :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/38s-1.jpg)
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Originally posted by Guppy35
You just don't know how to do it.
As one who doesn't even accept the existance of landing gear, I can get anything down in a belly landing :)
Try it. There's a game bug. You belly land in a 190A-8, you blow up (even if you're down safe). Just come to a stop and wait a few seconds and you're in the tower automatically.
It's been reported many times since the 190s were redone, and just recently I re-reported it (and others have agreed it's happening to them too).
Try belly landing THAT one :D :rofl :aok
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Yes, I believe they will.
Flying for the Axis for the three (+1) frames in Operation Husky was nothing short of fantastic and left me wanting more. I was ready to continue fighting the allies as they tried to make their push into Italy! :)
The amount of thought and effort going into Der Grosse Schlag leads me think that it is destined to eclipse my Operation Husky experience.
Originally posted by Fencer51
I hope you enjoy it Stub, Stampf and Krusty will see you right.
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Have you been recruited yet, StuB?
That is to say, I don't see you on the forum access list, so I'm guessing not. What did you want to fly, again? Have you already made any arrangements with any of our squadron leaders on the axis team?
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Thanks Dan :) I have that picture around here on CD still and the memory brings a big grin. I've been reading the scenario forum tonight and I've decided to suit up in a 'Bolt for this one. I just hope there's enough time between now and October to figure out the AH key commands again ;)
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Originally posted by Westy
Thanks Dan :) I have that picture around here on CD still and the memory brings a big grin. I've been reading the scenario forum tonight and I've decided to suit up in a 'Bolt for this one. I just hope there's enough time between now and October to figure out the AH key commands again ;)
Absolutely Westy.
Let Hajo know, he's got the Jugs as does Dace
In fact I'll pass the word.
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Well, any axis fliers that would love to throw some cannon shells at Dan and his P38 menaces while flying a G-14 should give me a shout.
I still have open slots for fun, drinking and some occasional swearing....and I guess we have to shoot some stuff down while we do that :rolleyes:
It will be a great time had by all on both sides so make sure you reserve a spot early......preferably flying with me:D
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Originally posted by DaPup
Well, any axis fliers that would love to throw some cannon shells at Dan and his P38 menaces while flying a G-14 should give me a shout.
I still have open slots for fun, drinking and some occasional swearing....and I guess we have to shoot some stuff down while we do that :rolleyes:
It will be a great time had by all on both sides so make sure you reserve a spot early......preferably flying with me:D
Wait a minute! You guys are having fun, drinking and swearing too?
Why are we fighting this war? Lets meet at the local pub instead :)
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Originally posted by Krusty
Try it. There's a game bug. You belly land in a 190A-8, you blow up (even if you're down safe). Just come to a stop and wait a few seconds and you're in the tower automatically.
It's been reported many times since the 190s were redone, and just recently I re-reported it (and others have agreed it's happening to them too).
Try belly landing THAT one :D :rofl :aok
My 190 must have been broken :)
It didn't blow up.
In the hands of an expert plane wrecker, anything is possible :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/190.jpg)
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EVERY time I belly land it, it blows. Same for a bunch of other folks, as well.
Before you postd I planned to do some testing. I was wondering if it only happened online or offline. Which did you do yours? I will do some tests in a few moments and would like to know where you did yours.
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I know from memory I've had it happen with the tail still attached, but the only way I can replicate it (repeatedly) is when I ditch hard enough to lose the tail. I got it on film both offline and online. Once I noticed it was happening with the tail gone, I pranged it to lose the tail on purpose and repeated it many times. I will post 2 films in the re-reported bug report I made recently.
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Just took a screenshot of belly landing an A8 in perfectly good shape.
Also has bearkats saying he's gonna HO everything in site tonight in the text buffer, so I'm gonna hang onto the shot for ransom lol
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If they were to be accurately modeled, they should blow up the minute you take them out of the hangar. :lol
But if HTC can't get to that, we will handle the modification for you in October! :D
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Originally posted by ROC
Just took a screenshot of belly landing an A8 in perfectly good shape.
Also has bearkats saying he's gonna HO everything in site tonight in the text buffer, so I'm gonna hang onto the shot for ransom lol
lol!
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Originally posted by Krusty
EVERY time I belly land it, it blows. Same for a bunch of other folks, as well.
Before you postd I planned to do some testing. I was wondering if it only happened online or offline. Which did you do yours? I will do some tests in a few moments and would like to know where you did yours.
It was online. It was a couple months ago. I rarely fly a 190 and promptly got shot to bits by 17 gunners and had to ditch the wreck :)
Again I must be clear that with my expertise at landing wrecked planes, it was no problem:aok
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Westy is in the 56th.
Great to see Ken back. However for some reason his wife thinks I am responsible for his comeback for the scenario. I do hope Westy did not show her the PM I sent him asking if he would like to suit up with us.
Anyone know the 1-800 number to around the clock security?
Hajo
Westy great to have you back. Think you and whels can wing?
:aok
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Originally posted by Hajo
Westy is in the 56th.
Great to see Ken back. However for some reason his wife thinks I am responsible for his comeback for the scenario. I do hope Westy did not show her the PM I sent him asking if he would like to suit up with us.
Anyone know the 1-800 number to around the clock security?
Hajo
Westy great to have you back. Think you and whels can wing?
:aok
I got Westy's Jug out of the back of the hanger. It's older and a bit beat up but it will work :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Westy.jpg)
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Guppy, I posted the films in the bugs forum. There's a bug, but how and when it kills you is not certain. It's more likely to do it if you lose the tail during ditch. It's also got some sort of random timer (sometimes 20 seconds, sometimes 10) before blowing you up. Crazy stuff.
I know I've had it happen to me before when I had the tail intact. I just know it!
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Originally posted by Guppy35
I got Westy's Jug out of the back of the hanger. It's older and a bit beat up but it will work :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Westy.jpg)
We got yours out and ready to go too Dan. :D
(http://www.jg11.org/cpg1412/albums/userpics/10003/normal_GP38G.gif)
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Sir, the ground crews are almost done, I ---- Oh, hi Guppy... Uh, bad news. There was an accident, and it seems your ride is going to start off missing a rudder, a flap, leaking oil in one engine, and with half the guns jammed....
(this before you even get into it, no less! :D )
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Originally posted by Stampf
We got yours out and ready to go too Dan. :D
(http://www.jg11.org/cpg1412/albums/userpics/10003/normal_GP38G.gif)
LOL, I was wondering how I could sneak my 38G into the event. Good plan. Thanks Stampf :)
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My ride is ready.
(http://www.markwaki.com/images/Cripes%20Profile.jpg)
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Originally posted by Stampf
We got yours out and ready to go too Dan. :D
(http://www.jg11.org/cpg1412/albums/userpics/10003/normal_GP38G.gif)
:huh Wow they finally got a great ride.
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Oh, hi Guppy... Uh, bad news. There was an accident, and it seems your ride is going to start off missing a rudder, a flap, leaking oil in one engine, and with half the guns jammed....
This is somehow unusual for Guppy's plane? Personally, I think he's going to do far worse in a New Plane, he has No Experience whatsoever flying something in good condition.
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For what it's worth, this is the 474th bird I'm hoping to have skinned in time to be able to get it in and use it in the scenario.
Now this photo was taken in December 44, so it was still intact in November, but I thought it was fitting that my bird should be this one :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Shoes.jpg)
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Originally posted by Shifty
My ride is ready.
(http://www.markwaki.com/images/Cripes%20Profile.jpg)
(salavates) i want my red dog! but then again i cant make the times:cry
This is somehow unusual for Guppy's plane? Personally, I think he's going to do far worse in a New Plane, he has No Experience whatsoever flying something in good condition
:rofl:
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Originally posted by evenhaim
(salavates) i want my red dog! but then again i cant make the times:cry
:rofl:
Take a month vacation in October. Come to Texas, we'll put you up. :aok
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Just don't fly this airline...
(http://www.jg11.org/cpg1412/albums/userpics/10002/B17.jpg)
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No deposit back on that beer can!
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No deposit back on that beer can!
You know, I was concerned what to do with all the "returnables". Problem solved. :D
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Group photo of some JG3 boys.
Who can guess which one is Krusty?
(http://www.jg11.org/cpg1412/albums/userpics/10003/jg3.jpg)
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The one with the puddle under his feet?
I know, we're scary, just relax and it won't hurt for long.
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Originally posted by Stampf
Group photo of some JG3 boys.
Who can guess which one is Krusty?
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m238/Goldelks/untitled-1.jpg)
Hmmm Top Right?
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:rofl :rofl Winner!!
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Who me or treize?:lol
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Oh, you got it Bear.
Treize picked the beave, after ROC is through with him.
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Woot! What do I win?
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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(http://www.jg11.org/cpg1412/albums/userpics/10003/MG07_Nelly_01.jpg)
Woot! What do I win?
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:furious
Who let her out of my XO's office???
:furious
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Still prefer my St. Paulis Girl.
(http://www.realbeer.com/blog/images/20060131-stpauli.jpg)
You overuse yours, I'll overuse mine. :p
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Deal.
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Ok, then here ya go.
(http://www.stpauligirlcostumes.com/sitebuilder/images/Roma1125web-228x600.jpg)
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Der Grosse Schlag!!!
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Originally posted by Treize69
Ok, then here ya go.
(http://www.stpauligirlcostumes.com/sitebuilder/images/Roma1125web-228x600.jpg)
Why hello there.:t
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Originally posted by Treize69
Ok, then here ya go.
(http://www.stpauligirlcostumes.com/sitebuilder/images/Roma1125web-228x600.jpg)
Hmm, looks like a good reason to hit the silk. :D
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Still a few chances left to be Sexy! Register for Der Grosse Schlag now before the only spots left are with the "uglies".
A handful of each of the following still available:
Bf109 G-14
Bf109K-4
Fw190A-8
Fw1090D-9
DGS promises to be be the most action filled, historically imersive event to date. Don't miss out on this! If unsure how to register, or you need help in any way, just leave a note or send me a PM. Someone on the Axis Kommand team will be glad to help you along the way.
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Sounds like a hoot, but alas, i have to work. Never fails.