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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: LYNX on July 08, 2007, 05:48:09 AM
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Rooks made an attempt to reset MA Blue yesterday. As things progressed more rooks joined and obviously the ENY kicked in. It seems MA Orange wasn't so fun so hence many rooks opting to play in Blue. For at least 6 hours ENY was in force reaching over 25 at the peak of the rook roll. ENY cap remained between 10 to 18 for at least 4 hours and between 2 and 10 for the other 2 hours.
Rooks got to within 2 bases of reset when the "Tower prowling" started. I'll grant the fact that some if not many of the prowlers did contribute the initial "push" but just leaving their virtual pilot on line for 75 perkies WAS counter productive. It was a shot in the virtual foot.
We all go AFK at some point. Usually our human needs or a quick chore, kids/wife/ ourselves need something, cigs, milk, bread, the occasional drunk asleep at the keys and many other reasons but yesterdays encounter with AFK'ers was purely PERK prowlers. I'm also sure this happens in the other teams at times of near reset.
Rooks had 130 players when I left for bed 3AM UK time (11PM east). We were losing fields hand over fist by now and still under ENY restrictions. Of the 130 Rook players 86 were in the air or active. The Knights for example had 91 players with 71 active or in air. You can see the difference from these figures which doesn't include Bish in it's equation.
I did a quick flit from tower to tower to see what was going on and found the odd one or two inactive in towers dotted around the map amounting to 7 players. Then I found the mother load. In one tower alone I found 17 guys AFK. I didn't check every tower. That's a minimum of 24 PERK prowlers :rolleyes:
Would it be unreasonable to request guys that are going to go AFK for more than a hour to log off. Would it be unjust to say if your done for the day your done....LOG OFF
Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury...what say ye?
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I say "Cry me a river.".
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Bronk
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Yep, I agree. Maybe auto kick off would be good...
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Originally posted by Bronk
I say "Cry me a river.".
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Bronk
Allow me to remind you of what I also said........
I'm also sure this happens in the other teams at times of near reset.
Perhaps, and I'm sure they'll be pleased when you grace your team with that rendition next time perk prowling occurs over there.
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Dont hoard for the reset and you dont have that problem.
Deserved everything they got.
Or in this case. Didnt get
Im finding myself spending less and less time in any of the arenas and playing at all cause most of the time all I ever see is one side hoarding another.
I dont mind landgrabbers. OR landgrabbing.
For me the fight to capture or keep a base provides some of the best all around fighting there is.
But it is irritating when all you see is big blobs of aircraft from all sides all headed to where opponents arent
Even more irritating is when all you see large hoards overwhelming one country or the other. Even if its my side doing the hoarding.
It gets old real fast
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Originally posted by LYNX
Allow me to remind you of what I also said........
I'm also sure this happens in the other teams at times of near reset.
Perhaps you could err sing that tune to your team when perk prowling occurs over there.
1. I fly mostly Knight, so that would be a rare.
2. I am indifferent to a map reset.
3. It takes some high eny to get me out of a yak, or a 38g.
So once again "Cry me a river.".
Bronk
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Originally posted by LYNX
Rooks got to within 2 bases of reset when the "Tower prowling" started. I'll grant the fact that some if not many of the prowlers did contribute the initial "push" but just leaving their virtual pilot on line for 75 perkies WAS counter productive. It was a shot in the virtual foot.
The really funny thing is: You don't even need to be online at the very moment the arena resets to get those perkies. :D
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Originally posted by Lusche
The really funny thing is: You don't even need to be online at the very moment the arena resets to get those perkies. :D
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh dang it.
You trying to stop the ENY whine threads.:furious :furious :furious
Bronk
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Pointing out facts stops nothing. You should know that from the collision threads ;)
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Originally posted by Lusche
Pointing out facts stops nothing. You should know that from the collision threads ;)
Ahh you are correct sir. Carry on.
:D
Bronk
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I have to agree 100% with LYNX. This happens to all sides. Happened to Bish yesterday. Bish and Nit "in flight" numbers were even, but Bish had a lopsided number logged on. Some sort of auto-logout is in order.
If you need the perks that bad, just up a higher ENY plane. Yea, you will have to work for the points, but at least you will earn them and not hurt your side in the process.
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Bronk
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See? :D
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Originally posted by LYNX
Rooks had 130 players when I left for bed 3AM UK time (11PM east). We were losing fields hand over fist by now and still under ENY restrictions. Of the 130 Rook players 86 were in the air or active. The Knights for example had 91 players with 71 active or in air. You can see the difference from these figures which doesn't include Bish in it's equation.
ladies and Gentlemen of the jury...what say ye? [/B]
I have always said an easy fix with eny is that it should only count those players actively playing, tower guys should not be added in to eny figures.
But i can also say, that since flying as a knit, we don't have to deal with eny very often, so thats the other solution.
If ya hate eny----Fly knit------taking applications for immigration at HQ.:aok
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http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=209561
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=193096
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Was wondering why Blue was full all night---I spent 3 hours on and off tryin to get into Blue, finally got in about 11:30 est (I thinking eny had kicked in in Orange as well, either Bish or nit had major logoffs, which made Orange even LESS fun (Well, that and getting spanked by endless K4's and 262's)
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I agree completly lynx
I am also sure that those perk potatos were newbies, cause i can easily accumiate 75 perks in a matter of 3 hours if i feel the need to.
I THINK A AUTO KICK WOULD BE PERFECT, WOULD GET RID OF AFK'S AND SAVE ON BANDWIDTH FOR HIGH TECH AS WELL AS KEEP THE ARENA FROM STAYING FULL.
I see nothing but all PROS and no CONS for that, sounds like a awsome idea maybe we should post that idea in the right forum.
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Originally posted by Bronk
I say "Cry me a river.".
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Bronk
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m238/Goldelks/Cry.jpg)
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Originally posted by LYNX
Allow me to remind you of what I also said........
I'm also sure this happens in the other teams at times of near reset.
Perhaps, and I'm sure they'll be pleased when you grace your team with that rendition next time perk prowling occurs over there.
It happened to bish in orange last night lynx, we reached ENY 29 at one point.
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Originally posted by Laurie
It happened to bish in orange last night lynx, we reached ENY 29 at one point.
Good :rofl :rofl :rofl
Bronk
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:huh
These threads just keep getting dumber.
The guys going around dreaming up ways to be offended by other peoples game play is getting much worse than the actions of those they are complaining about.
I tell you what say ye................ Get a life drama queen. Worry about your own game play and not what the other guy is doing.
Originally posted by LYNX
Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury...what say ye?
:rofl :rofl :rofl OH THE DRAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Shifty
:huh
These threads just keep getting dumber.
The guys going around dreaming up ways to be offended by other peoples game play is getting much worse than the actions of those they are complaining about.
I tell you what say ye................ Get a life drama queen. Worry about your own game play and not what the other guy is doing.
You're correct. These threads just keep getting dumber. Evidence: Your post.
By the way, have you been hanging around in the tower looking for cheap perks?
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I have seen this trend, and I think that anyone who feels they need to "Hang-out" waiting for reset perks, is likely so unskilled as a pilot, this may be the only way they CAN get perks. Perks are like water for me, and everyone else who understands the game. They are over there in the faucet, and anytime we want some, we just got turn it on.
I dont get many perks by way of reset because I dont really care for the gameplay that usually occurs during or just before reset. Its usually horde r be horded & im not amused by either.
What good are perks anyway?
Firefly Vs Tiger-:rofl
AR234-:rofl :rofl
Jets- Valid, but: Spit14VsSpit16:rofl
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Yesterday, Rooks were 1 base away from the reset....
220 PM CDST
Rooks-108
Bishops-52
Knights-59
523 PM CDST
Rooks-131
Bishops-82
Knights-96
We fought 'em back...even at those numbers. They still didn't get the reset when I left at 700 PM CDST.
I hope their ENY was so bad, all they could fly was Stukas.
68ROX
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Originally posted by yanksfan
I have always said an easy fix with eny is that it should only count those players actively playing, tower guys should not be added in to eny figures.
"""""THIS would make so much sense, that it's pretty much guaranteed that it will not happen.""""""
But i can also say, that since flying as a knit, we don't have to deal with eny very often, so thats the other solution.
""""oh really?????!!!!! try flying EW for awhile. i've seen it as high as 26 there(i fly knights in EW), and it seems to be in the area of 11 to16 about 60% of the time i'm in there....30%from 16-24, and once in awhile its almost non-exisitant. i don't complain about it though...i can/won't change countries in there to even sides, as i fly in a squad there.....so i just go to another arena, or bomb the crap outta things when i can't get a fighter i can actually fly some semblence of competantly in."""""
If ya hate eny----Fly knit------taking applications for immigration at HQ.:aok
""""""see above"""""
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Originally posted by Bronk
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh dang it.
You trying to stop the ENY whine threads.:furious :furious :furious
Bronk
You Sir cannot read. The title to the thread is PERK prowlers not ENY is very nasty and we all hate it blah blah blah. I ended the opening thread with
Would it be unreasonable to request guys that are going to go AFK for more than a hour to log off. Would it be unjust to say if your done for the day your done....LOG OFF
I and many others have no problem with ENY. In a situation such as yesterday ENY was expected, dealt with and lived with. Bronk are you still following so far? Everyone knows the options if they can't live with ENY. I even think you understand those option as you indicated your seldom effected by it.
Those that decide to and, you'll have to understand whats about to be said, live with ENY have a right to do so. It's their choice. Meaning that said player is fully aware of what ENY and what consequences of ENY are. Still following Bronk ?
Now here's the punch lines the meanings of the thread .....
Would it be of fair game, gentlemanly order, good sportsmanship, sense of fair play, or indeed good manners to log off once your day is done.?
I'm sure a clever, articulate and sporting chap such as your self would hold these values quite dear. Would you or those of your ilk, hypothetically speaking :rolleyes: , having consciously accepted ENY upon yourself, then force those NEEDLESSLY (here's the other part to the punch line) HIGHER ENY consequences on others by your deliberate abstinence of activity and wilful intention of perk collecting. i.e leaving your virtual pilot in tower to collect a paltry sum of perkies and therefore creating a false ENY calibration ?
Phew......that was deep Bronk / Shifty or anyone else misconstruing, wilful or otherwise, the meaning of this thread. I hope you all kept up?
Shifty you said
The guys going around dreaming up ways to be offended by other peoples game play
Don't you mean "offended by other peoples lack of game play" ? if we're to take on board your input.
So in simple diction...that's words by the way. I'll reiterate (say again)
1) Would it be unjust to say if your done for the day your done....LOG OFF[/I]
2) A request for sporting behaviour. If your in it to win it then go ahead and actively win it.
3) The thread refers to inactivity procuring a false ENY calibration. Not about ENY per-say.
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Originally posted by Atoon
I have seen this trend, and I think that anyone who feels they need to "Hang-out" waiting for reset perks, is likely so unskilled as a pilot, this may be the only way they CAN get perks. Perks are like water for me, and everyone else who understands the game. They are over there in the faucet, and anytime we want some, we just got turn it on.
I dont get many perks by way of reset because I dont really care for the gameplay that usually occurs during or just before reset. Its usually horde r be horded & im not amused by either.
What good are perks anyway?
Firefly Vs Tiger-:rofl
AR234-:rofl :rofl
Jets- Valid, but: Spit14VsSpit16:rofl
The perk system is as FUBAR as the ENY, which is as FUBAR as the score/rank system, which compares with FUBAR condition of the collission modeling BUT---- they all pale in comparison to the current FUBAR condition of our stale arse maps!!:rofl :aok :D
Still the best show in town, problem is they know it:(
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Originally posted by LYNX
Y i.e leaving your virtual pilot in tower to collect a paltry sum of perkies and therefore creating a false ENY calibration ?
I think there are more reasons to sit in the tower than just staying in game to collect reset perks -because it doesn't work that way.
Like I stated already, it isn't necessary to stay in the arena to get the reset perks.
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Originally posted by CAP1
""""oh really?????!!!!! try flying EW for awhile. i've seen it as high as 26 there(i fly knights in EW), and it seems to be in the area of 11 to16 about 60% of the time i'm in there....30%from 16-24, and once in awhile its almost non-exisitant. i don't complain about it though...i can/won't change countries in there to even sides, as i fly in a squad there.....so i just go to another arena, or bomb the crap outta things when i can't get a fighter i can actually fly some semblence of competantly in."""""
""""""see above"""""
Sorry, didn't mean to imply anything in early or mid, i don't go there enough to really know.
But in late war arenas, knights are useually outnumberd when I'm around.
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Originally posted by Carwash
By the way, have you been hanging around in the tower looking for cheap perks?
Oh sure I got nothing better to do with my time .:lol
The only type of person I could think of that would do something like that is the type of person who worry about others doing it. Get a life.:rofl
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Originally posted by Atoon
What good are perks anyway?
AR234-:rofl :rofl
I've been flying AR234's almost exclusively the last two camps:
Tour 89 Bomber Scores for BaldEagl
Score Rank
Damage per Death - 221148.69 - 63
Damage per Sortie - 32521.87 - 274
Damage Hit Percentage - 279.88 - 308
Damage Points - 1105743.43 - 552
Field Captures - 2 - 515
Rank: 76
Tour 90 Bomber Scores for BaldEagl
Score Rank
Damage per Death - 201335.30 - 65
Damage per Sortie - 67111.77 - 102
Damage Hit Percentage - 473.33 - 113
Damage Points - 201335.30 - 682
Field Captures - 0 - 2893
Current Rank: 318
Yep, perks are good for AR234's.
Originally posted by 68ROX
I hope their ENY was so bad, all they could fly was Stukas.
Model type - Kills In - Kills Of - Model type - Killed By - Died In
Ju 87D-3 - 1 - 0 -- Ju 87D-3 - 0 - 0
:lol I got a kill in a Stuka last night. :lol
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This thread just keeps on giving.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Please keep the whine coming.
Bronk
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Originally posted by Atoon
which compares with FUBAR condition of the collission modeling (
You're a tard if you can't figure out the collision model is the best compromise for near light speed internet.
Bronk
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Originally posted by Carwash
You're correct. These threads just keep getting dumber. Evidence: Your post.
By the way, have you been hanging around in the tower looking for cheap perks?
Originally posted by Lusche
The really funny thing is: You don't even need to be online at the very moment the arena resets to get those perkies. :D
Reading is fundamental. Maybe you should try it sometime.
Bronk
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Originally posted by LYNX
You Sir cannot read. The title to the thread is PERK prowlers not ENY is very nasty and we all hate it blah blah blah.
Ohh I can read just fine. I can cut and paste just fine also.
Lemme show you.
Originally posted by LYNX
For at least 6 hours ENY was in force reaching over 25 at the peak of the rook roll. ENY cap remained between 10 to 18 for at least 4 hours and between 2 and 10 for the other 2 hours.
Could this be an ENY whine? No not from you. :rolleyes:
If it was just about the people lurking for the reset you would have omitted this.
Bronk
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Atoon, FYI for the past three camps here are the highest K/D planes/vehicles in the arenas:
Tempest - 6.74 PERK
Me 262 - 6.01 PERK
Me 163B - 5.01 PERK
Tiger I - 3.57 PERK
F4U-1C - 2.66 PERK
F4U-4 - 2.51 PERK
Ostwind - 1.61
Hurricane Mk IIC - 1.60
Typhoon IB - 1.52
Bf 109K-4 - 1.47
In case you didn't know I pointed out the perk rides for you.
What are perks good for anyway?
:confused:
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Originally posted by Bronk
Ohh I can read just fine. I can cut and paste just fine also.
Lemme show you.
Could this be an ENY whine? No not from you. :rolleyes:
If it was just about the people lurking for the reset you would have omitted this.
Bronk
I stand by my statement to which prompted this reply above. Perhaps you may care to go and read the whole thing again but to pay particular attention to this part
I did a quick flit from tower to tower to see what was going on and found the odd one or two inactive in towers dotted around the map amounting to 7 players. Then I found the mother load. In one tower alone I found 17 guys AFK. I didn't check every tower. That's a minimum of 24 PERK prowlers
Then after that perhaps you may want to, but I doubt it, read my reply from where this came---------->
I and many others have no problem with ENY. In a situation such as yesterday ENY was expected, dealt with and lived with. Bronk are you still following so far? Everyone knows the options if they can't live with ENY. I even think you understand those option as you indicated your seldom effected by it.
Perhaps I could get you to understand this......from the same reply---->
I'm sure a clever, articulate and sporting chap such as your self would hold these values quite dear. Would you or those of your ilk, hypothetically speaking , having consciously accepted ENY upon yourself, then force those NEEDLESSLY (here's the other part to the punch line) HIGHER ENY consequences on others by your deliberate abstinence of activity and wilful intention of perk collecting. i.e leaving your virtual pilot in tower to collect a paltry sum of perkies and therefore creating a false ENY calibration ?
I haven't written rocket science and I sure as heck ain't written anything, to use a lower vernacular, "boohoo" about ENY.
I suggest to you Sir that you haven't read the post fully or your selective reading or your wise cracks put you in a position your honour couldn't retreat.
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Color it any way you want. It's an eny whine, otherwise you wouldn't care a bit if there were 10000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000000 sitting in the tower, now would you?
Bronk
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Originally posted by Laurie
It happened to bish in orange last night lynx, we reached ENY 29 at one point.
Yes when I logged out of LWBlue to take a break, not worrying that I might miss out on a few perky points. I later came back, to find out I couldn't get in the arena with my squadies.. (big surprise) so instead I went to LWorange and enjoyed 100 perk 262's all night.
They were so cheap I even killed the ords at one of your bish bases in my ultra cheap 262.. was good times. Too bad none of you bish were interested in upping at your field that was capped with four 262's.. :rofl
I even had fun flying the experiential "short" wing version of the 262 and I can tell you they are much harder to land.
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Originally posted by LYNX
I'll grant the fact that some if not many of the prowlers did contribute the initial "push" but just leaving their virtual pilot on line for 75 perkies
Kill 3 la-7's with a spit 1 with perk bonus at 1.05 and you get those perks :D
but yes i say kill the tower prowlers
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Originally posted by Bronk
Color it any way you want. It's an eny whine, otherwise you wouldn't care a bit if there were 10000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000000 sitting in the tower, now would you?
Bronk
Bronk..you're missing the....ah heck never mind
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I still say if someone is in tower more than 15 mins, they should not count for ENY and should also not get perks awarded if a reset happens.
Might help a little..
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Originally posted by 68ROX
Yesterday, Rooks were 1 base away from the reset....
220 PM CDST
Rooks-108
Bishops-52
Knights-59
523 PM CDST
Rooks-131
Bishops-82
Knights-96
We fought 'em back...even at those numbers. They still didn't get the reset when I left at 700 PM CDST.
I hope their ENY was so bad, all they could fly was Stukas.
68ROX
Have a thought about numbers for a moment
Rooks had 130 players when I left for bed 3AM UK time (11PM east). We were losing fields hand over fist by now and still under ENY restrictions. Of the 130 Rook players 86 were in the air or active. The Knights for example had 91 players with 71 active or in air. You can see the difference from these figures which doesn't include Bish in it's equation.
As you can see the figure you and I quote are very similar
Rooks had 44 in tower 130 with 86 active
Knights had 20 in tower 91 with 71 active
Bish unknown................80 ?.. 60 ? assumptively
Look at it like this the knights faced a combined total enemy active force of 146. The Rooks faced a combined total active force of 131 there by fielding just 15 more players.
Online shows knights facing 210 where as Rooks face 171. A theoretical surplus of 39 more player when in actual FACT it was just 15 more.....to be spread across all fronts.
I'll wager Bish and Rooks weren't knocking on the knights door as hard as Knights and Bish were knocking on ours.
Perk prowlers gave a perceived number when you said
We fought 'em back...even at those numbers.
but fair play to the fight back .
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Originally posted by Latrobe
Kill 3 la-7's with a spit 1 with perk bonus at 1.05 and you get those perks :D
know what i kill when i fly a spit1??????
i kill me!!!!!!:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by Bronk
Color it any way you want. It's an eny whine, otherwise you wouldn't care a bit if there were 10000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000000 sitting in the tower, now would you?
Bronk
I'm sure your not an imbecile. Your flippant wise cracks aren't doing you any justice. Your argument is nill. I've disproved your rhetoric so that leaves your honour seeking to be assuaged.
Run along now.
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Originally posted by CAP1
know what i kill when i fly a spit1??????
i kill me!!!!!!:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
I like the way the engine cuts out on the Spit 1 when you pull negative g's.
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Originally posted by Lusche
The really funny thing is: You don't even need to be online at the very moment the arena resets to get those perkies. :D
I have been here 5 years and never knew that. My understanding was that you had to be online to collect any perk bonus. So here's the rub. If I believed you had to be on line how many others think or thought as I do? I'll wager it's a vast many.
Do you have any info on this ?
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Originally posted by LYNX
I'm sure your not an imbecile. Your flippant wise cracks aren't doing you any justice. Your argument is nill. I've disproved your rhetoric so that leaves your honour seeking to be assuaged.
Run along now.
Yea you disproved it alright. :rolleyes:
Remove eny, would you care one iota how many were sitting in tower?
Bronk
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I tend to agree with the auto logoff. No use clogging the arena with AFKs.
As for this being a "Whine" Thread. Ya ever notice that the same few people have to troll all the threads and WHINE that this thread or that thread is a WHINE thread. I see the same names pop up in just about every thread on the boards offering nothing but degrading comments and trash instead of anything constructive. Gee. Makes ya wonder why certain topics resurface. Doesn't it.
From a GVers standpoint on ENY really hurts when all you can up is a Jeep. But no bullets for the MG. It gets kind of ridiculous. But we deal with it because it isn't going to change.
The numbers issue is kind of interesting too. For the past few days for fun, we have gone to the EW arenas to mess with the milk runners. We observed in many instances 20+ Rooks attempting to capture a base. We popped in and stopped the primary assault and waited for returns. No body came back. We checked the roster and there were only 5 or so Rooks left on. :rofl Slap them once and they ran for mamma. Now our ENY kicks in.
LTARsqrl <>
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Originally posted by crockett
I still say if someone is in tower more than 15 mins, they should not count for ENY and should also not get perks awarded if a reset happens.
Might help a little..
Seems this is comming from someone who has never experienced wife ack.
Wife ack will put me in the tower from 5 to 30 minutes depending on the ack concentration. It happens to alot of people. Also, when running squad ops at times we can be sitting in the tower for 15-20 mins while our bombers climbout.
Now, up until that time I could have contributed to the reset greatly. So, punishing me for being married would be just another load of crapola that I have to deal with while trying to have fun and dealing with wife ack, dog ack or < shudder > Mormons or Jahovah Witness' at the door.
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Originally posted by Flatbar
Seems this is comming from someone who has never experienced wife ack.
The dreaded "Honey can you come here a minute?". I shudder when I hear that phrase.
Bronk
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Wife ack is like the German 88. Long Range. Deadly if ya get hit. And the best way to avoid it is not to be seen. :D
LTARsqrl <>
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Hey LYNX...err....
ya got a point bro but what's this gotta do with the dang
BANANNA PHONE
>FROGER< ---------done takeing it personal.
i have long sence banned my self from the >ch 200< tard monkey festival
and instead of being grumpy most of the time you might just get a >SALUTE< from me.
I wonder if they ever made a FROG phone>>>?
>S< froger <---------thr other grean meat.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Atoon, FYI for the past three camps here are the highest K/D planes/vehicles in the arenas:
Tempest - 6.74 PERK
Me 262 - 6.01 PERK
Me 163B - 5.01 PERK
Tiger I - 3.57 PERK
F4U-1C - 2.66 PERK
F4U-4 - 2.51 PERK
Ostwind - 1.61
Hurricane Mk IIC - 1.60
Typhoon IB - 1.52
Bf 109K-4 - 1.47
In case you didn't know I pointed out the perk rides for you.
What are perks good for anyway?
:confused:
Considering the prices of the top 5, these numbers are only logical. Takes moderate skill to get these rides. Then with the considered investment, naturally they try to get home. Fairly skilled pilot in HOT plane with good motivation to RTB.......... Yeah, those numbers look right to me.
I was thinking more about numbers of perk rides flewn/driven in comparison to the rest of the plane/GV set.
Im sure the GV stats will change..... unless the firefly does
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Originally posted by LYNX
I have been here 5 years and never knew that. My understanding was that you had to be online to collect any perk bonus. So here's the rub. If I believed you had to be on line how many others think or thought as I do? I'll wager it's a vast many.
Do you have any info on this ?
Actually, I don't know what most people believe
But you could be right, because it also seems that most people still believe that
- Under dar altitude is 200ft
- The purple text channel is "local" and can be read by all people close around you
- Your type of internet connection is responsible for determining who "wins" a collision
;)
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Upon further consideration, I'm more pissed about these afk pukes occupying a space which I might be able to use---Blue was full and locked out from 8-ish est until 11:30pm or so last night, and that's where all my NON-afk buddies were
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heres a solution for your eny. instead of setting eny for those that are online set for those that are in the air. shuoldnt be any harded to set that up then it was to set it up for the way it is now. i think this is only fair to all the players
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Originally posted by LTARkilz
heres a solution for your eny. instead of setting eny for those that are online set for those that are in the air. shuoldnt be any harded to set that up then it was to set it up for the way it is now. i think this is only fair to all the players
Can't, then they just all up a mission of 5 ENY planes. Then you have numbers and low eny capped AC.
Bronk
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Originally posted by Bronk
Can't, then they just all up a mission of 5 ENY planes. Then you have numbers and low eny capped AC.
I thought that too, but I am not sure if people are that disciplined & coordinated.
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Originally posted by Lusche
I thought that too, but I am not sure if people are that disciplined & coordinated.
Nits??? No way in hell, like trying to herd cats.
But I wouldn't put it past certain multi wing squads. :noid
Bronk
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Originally posted by LTARkilz
heres a solution for your eny. instead of setting eny for those that are online set for those that are in the air. shuoldnt be any harded to set that up then it was to set it up for the way it is now. i think this is only fair to all the players
I never understood why it's not done that way to begin with.
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Originally posted by trax1
I never understood why it's not done that way to begin with.
Ummmm
Originally posted by Bronk
Can't, then they just all up a mission of 5 ENY planes. Then you have numbers and low eny capped AC.
Bronk
Wow:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Bronk
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Originally posted by Flatbar
Seems this is comming from someone who has never experienced wife ack.
Wife ack will put me in the tower from 5 to 30 minutes depending on the ack concentration. It happens to alot of people. Also, when running squad ops at times we can be sitting in the tower for 15-20 mins while our bombers climbout.
Now, up until that time I could have contributed to the reset greatly. So, punishing me for being married would be just another load of crapola that I have to deal with while trying to have fun and dealing with wife ack, dog ack or < shudder > Mormons or Jahovah Witness' at the door.
Well what ever move the no perks earned up to an hour or 30 mins afk.. no real biggie. However it tends to be the normal that when it's close to a reset... guys tend to not want to log off their account.
They just sit in the tower or go afk and do nothing but cause the ENY to rise. Personally, if Im' going to be AFK longer than 10-15 mins I log out.
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Originally posted by crockett
Well what ever move the no perks earned up to an hour or 30 mins afk.. no real biggie. However it tends to be the normal that when it's close to a reset... guys tend to not want to log off their account.
They just sit in the tower or go afk and do nothing but cause the ENY to rise. Personally, if Im' going to be AFK longer than 10-15 mins I log out.
UMMMMMMMMMM
Originally posted by Lusche
The really funny thing is: You don't even need to be online at the very moment the arena resets to get those perkies. :D
Wow again.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Bronk
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Originally posted by Bronk
Ummmm
Wow:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Bronk
I still think it would be a better system
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Originally posted by Bronk
UMMMMMMMMMM
Wow again.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Bronk
umm I've never earned perks for a map reset that I wasn't online for.
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Originally posted by trax1
I still think it would be a better system
When do you stop letting them up low eny ac? When 5 more get in the air, how about 10. Hell let em all up.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Like I said ENY whine thread.
Bronk
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Originally posted by crockett
umm I've never earned perks for a map reset that I wasn't online for.
Bet you have and ya just haven't noticed.
Bronk
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Originally posted by crockett
umm I've never earned perks for a map reset that I wasn't online for.
Long time ago when I was a n00b and still flying LA7 only, it was the only way for me to gain some perks at all ;)
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Originally posted by Bronk
When do you stop letting them up low eny ac? When 5 more get in the air, how about 10. Hell let em all up.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Like I said ENY whine thread.
Bronk
The same way they do it now, when more people come online the ENY goes up, when more people get in the air the ENY would go up.
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I logged into Blue yesterday and Rooks had taken TT.
I sat in the tower for about an hour and a half. Volunteered to goon for the retaking of V26, but someone else had a goon rolling. I sat back again.
Then 4 of us took P21 when VansCrew didn't want to lose his #1 ranking by killing his KPH.
I did more than what I saw for 1.5 hours. Taking TT bases is something I'll never understand, regardless of who does, and I sure wasn't gonna help defend them.
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Originally posted by crockett
umm I've never earned perks for a map reset that I wasn't online for.
Had to go look this one up myself - wasn't sure I believed it. But . . .
From Hitech's Help Files
The war is won when any country is reduced to one field. At that time, the arena is reset, a different terrain is rotated in with the country territories randomly set, and a perk point bonus is awarded to players that have been in the winning country for a minimum of 12 hours prior to the end of the war.
Aside from the fact that the win-the-war criteria has not been updated (imagine that :rolleyes: ), it says nothing about having to actually be on-line and playing to get the perks -- only that you have to have belonged to the winning country for at least 12 hours.
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Ok. The simplest simpley simple plan to fix this.
No perks for a reset.
After all, it's really about winning the war, right??
;)
wrngway
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Originally posted by E25280
Had to go look this one up myself - wasn't sure I believed it. But . . .
Aside from the fact that the win-the-war criteria has not been updated (imagine that :rolleyes: ), it says nothing about having to actually be on-line and playing to get the perks -- only that you have to have belonged to the winning country for at least 12 hours.
I took a forced 3 month break, once. Upon my return, guess what I found on my clipboard in the hangar ? :noid :noid
Bronk
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auto kick would be great, i got in as a bish saturday and eny was 19-28 but the guys in flight was awesome.
Bish 103-52
Rook 52-45
Nit 41-38
Not sure how it turned out i left after awhile, but eny isn't the issue it's dolts that just sit there for hours.
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Originally posted by Bronk
Yea you disproved it alright. :rolleyes:
Remove eny, would you care one iota how many were sitting in tower?
Bronk
Firstly good morning.
Secondly as insinuated by another your little more than a troll here. You evaded the Perk prowler question at every instance. Even when directly asked. You have contributed nothing of reasoned intelligence to Perk prowlers or your own theory of ENY whine. I'll add that the only person turning this thread into a ENY whine is yourself.
Thirdly ....yes I have disproved your rhetoric by pointing out all the statements I have made countering your err lets say "selective reading".
As for this quip, for want of an apt expression
Remove eny, would you care one iota how many were sitting in tower
Oh so easy to deal with and bring it back to PERK prowlers. So, to deal with the question you put, as follows. Yes I would to a degree but only to see a spirited defence from the foe. If I wanted to take bases unopposed there's EW and MW or better still OFF LINE.
It would be of more concern to the undermanned side than the resetting side. Here's the simplest analogy I can think of. Your on the losing side. Your outnumbered. Even with the enemy being ENY'ed your side is being rolled. (go read my "description" of events in opening post). Even with tower prowlers on the enemy side your losing bases and or being horded, as happens at these times. (following so far?)
There are a few options available to you in this scenario. You could log off having decided it's a lost cause or simply and, more to the point NOT FUN. Some of your team mates are starting to do this but as they log out or off their being replaced by even more enemies wanting to be in at the WIN.
You could hopefully fight on. You could ask for assistance by PM'ing friends or squaddies in other arenas asking for their help but crikey ARENA CAPPED oh my, arena capped. Jolly whiz the other side has us outnumbered and we can't get help because 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 sitting in the tower ............well thought of :rolleyes:
However, in the real situation those PERK prowlers are your best friend right now because the tied is on the turn. Some of your team mates have logged out / off. Replaced by even more enemy. Many of which are not active adding to the ENY calibration. You then find your team isn't really out numbered and the bonus is, their trying to take your town down with such things as TBM's. Absolute paradise to repel and or claim back your lost bases. PERK prowlers saved your day.....what a fine job of defence you did even when part of your team bailed. Hip hip your team.
You'll still call it an ENY whine but for all the wrong reasons. Your backed up in the corner or you still refuse to get it. Maybe a village is missing a certain person but here's some stuff to think about.
opening post describing events
Rooks had 130 players when I left for bed 3AM UK time (11PM east). We were losing fields hand over fist by now and still under ENY restrictions. Of the 130 Rook players 86 were in the air or active. The Knights for example had 91 players with 71 active or in air. You can see the difference from these figures which doesn't include Bish in it's equation.
Posted by whiteman
Bish 103-52
Rook 52-45
Nit 41-38
Not sure how it turned out i left after awhile, but eny isn't the issue it's dolts that just sit there for hours. .......that's 50% of BISH sat doing NOTHING. :rolleyes: Leaving 52 guys facing 83 and still under ENY.
Some have mentioned "auto kick out" for inactivity. I personally don't favour this but humans being as they are it's probably the only real option if we keep reset perk rewards. The argument here is when to set the auto boot. 45 minutes, 1 hour, 1 and a half hours? Even when reset isn't imminent some guys log in before work to secure a place in MA for when they get home. Seen this done by a couple of people which doesn't help off peak players like myself.
Some mention "In flight" ENY. I could live with this concept and yes Bronk I see you agree with Lusche after HE pointed out it's open to abuse. However it's using a worse case scenario.
To add to your ENY WHINE 20 guys sat in tower waiting for a mission up is just as likely to get ENY'ed before the up. Wouldn't guys in that team take off before the mission so they themselves personally don't get ENY'ed. Circumventing the action of the pending mission? I don't suppose you would see that. Folk would cotton onto this quick time. After all why should Mr sprey and prey Ho'tastic give up his Lghay for a bunch of shedders ? Or who ever he is for that matter.
Some have mentioned "area ENY". I'm indifferent to this concept mainly because I don't see how or if it could be augmented. Can it be "coaded" and why would they bother when there's much easier things that can be done.
Some have mentioned "you get perkies logged off". Well if that's the case there should be some kind of announcement to stop all these PERK prowlers. I'm not talking about HTC or skuzzy e-mailing every single player. Just a "header" on the HOME PAGE. Perhaps a post in these forums to be spread by word of mouth. Many people believe you have to be logged on as I did, .......and no Bronk I'm over 30k perkies before you even insinuate.
Some have mentioned "NO PERKIES". This in my opinion is the only true fair and right way to go. In it to win it. No reward other than personal satisfaction. Yes it's very easy for me to say with a bucket load of perkies but for everyone else that seeks perkies, why not just up the perk rates. Wouldn't like to say triple but double or 2/3 as much would help the newbies no end.
Keep the ENY as is and become ENY'ed because you darn well deserved, expected and accepted being ENY'ed. No one's selfish needs inflating ENY and screwing it up for others. No more PERK prowlers.
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Someone had quite a bit of time to kill^^^
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Some have mentioned "auto kick out" for inactivity. {snip} Even when reset isn't imminent some guys log in before work to secure a place in MA for when they get home. Seen this done by a couple of people which doesn't help off peak players like myself.
And human nature being what it is.... the guy's who do all these things would simply find the most obscure, out of the way place to spawn a jeep instead.
That's a solution that would fix the problem without changing anything.
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Originally posted by LYNX
Snip.
Wheeew
Lynx, all you had to do was leave out the mention of eny in your first post.
Then I'd have to agree with you.
People hanging in tower afk taking up space is better used by people wanting to get in the arena.
Bronk