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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Hawco on July 11, 2007, 11:28:33 AM
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Been finding Black widows in the back yard in the rocks, Any recommendations for a good off the shelf product? Trying to find something that I can mix up and put in my spray tank that will last for a while and kill on contact.
Thanks guys
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The last time I found a Black Widow in our shed, I fired up the hand held propane torch. Kill on contact. :D
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Originally posted by Hawco
Been finding Black widows in the back yard in the rocks, Any recommendations for a good off the shelf product? Trying to find something that I can mix up and put in my spray tank that will last for a while and kill on contact.
Thanks guys
Liquid 7 is pretty good, fairly persistent and has a good shelf life. Important note on that stuff though. Get the area wet first, then spray. Also if you have animals, dogs and such, don't let them out for a couple of hours after you spray because it can harm them if they get in it while it's still wet. Wear a respirator or at least a dust mask, and splash proof glasses or goggles, and gloves. Try to keep it off your skin as much as possible.
Basic safety stuff but it is a nerve agent so take care when using it. I use the stuff for the same reasons and I end up spraying about twice a year. Once in the spring and then again in the fall around the base of the house, garage, shed, and wood pile. Never really have any problems with spiders, ants, or other crawlers if I keep to a good spray schedual using that stuff.
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Liquid 7 is pretty good, fairly persistent and has a good shelf life
Hornet33 has WMD at his house!@!!!!!! RUN!!!!
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I've found black widows (Latrodectus mactans) are good at getting rid of cockroaches and other harmful pests, so I just leave them be. Brown recluses (Loxosceles reclusa), on the other hand, are dangerous, for they nest in lcothing and in beds and other areas where they come into contact very frequently. They also have three different kinds of venom, and one type shuts down the kidneys. They should be killed, as they are very dangerous, unlike the black widows (L. mactans, hasselti, hesperus, bishopi, geometricus, and variolus), which stay mainly outside, and have venom that isn't deadly. So, it's best just to leave some spiders alone, because cockroaches are very well known to adapt to chemical sprays and not be affected by them, thus allowing them to live in human habitats and spread disease. They have yet to develope an immunity to black widow or any other spider venom. So, spiders are good for pest control.
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I'm thinking thats a lot of trouble for just one spider... :cool:
Elfis's way is much simpler and more fun
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Originally posted by Phaser11
Liquid 7 is pretty good, fairly persistent and has a good shelf life
Hornet33 has WMD at his house!@!!!!!! RUN!!!!
Hahaha, yeah never mind the 5lb keg of black powder, several pounds of smokeless rifle powder and pistol powder, primers, and bullets sitting in my garage/workshop. Nor the 3 extra propane tanks, 2 boat fuel tanks, 4 gas cans, around 8 gallons of paint and varnish, the case of vodka, and who knows what else that is flamable or explosive.
I imagine if my garage ever caught on fire I'd take out the neighbors house pretty effectively, not that THAT would be all that great a loss. My neighbors are a-holes. I'm pretty redneck but these folks make me look like some upper class yuppie.
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and now ladies and gentlemen Hornet is on the Homeland Security watch list :D
PS I googled liquid 7 and got nothing where do you get this magic elixir?
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Try sevin
shamus
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*dons dunce cap
didn't see mosquitos on the list of pests it controls. Other than 20mm on the manned version what do you guys recommend?
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Living with my 2nd Brown Recluse bite... The firse was a trip to the Dr's office... Smart move, 3rd day after the bite. Treated with Antiboitics as opposed to surgery.
The 2nd bite not too smart... it's 8 weeks now and still painful. Time to see the Dr. Kinda late.
For those living in areas that have Brown Recluse spiders be sure to shake out any bed clothing and spray often. These are some nasty spiders that often attack at night.
Mac
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AWMAC......try this link.
http://www.brown-recluse.com/
Some kind of specialized treatment for Brown Recluse Bites that apparently works quite well.
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Originally posted by Dichotomy
and now ladies and gentlemen Hornet is on the Homeland Security watch list :D
PS I googled liquid 7 and got nothing where do you get this magic elixir?
Who do you think I work for????? Well did anyways until I retired last month.
Also you can get the stuff at Home Depot, Lowes, Wal-Mart......just about anywhere. It's made by Ortho.
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Originally posted by AWMac
Living with my 2nd Brown Recluse bite... The firse was a trip to the Dr's office... Smart move, 3rd day after the bite. Treated with Antiboitics as opposed to surgery.
The 2nd bite not too smart... it's 8 weeks now and still painful. Time to see the Dr. Kinda late.
For those living in areas that have Brown Recluse spiders be sure to shake out any bed clothing and spray often. These are some nasty spiders that often attack at night.
Mac
Not too smart, brown recluses have several kinds of venom:
A. The bite area forms a plug of flesh, which eventually falls out, and then leaves a crater which can take over a year to heal.
B. The venom causes no reaction at the site of the bite and goes straight to your kidneys, and causes them to shut down. Victims usually die from this kind.
C. The venom doesn't even affect you at all.
D. The bite continually grows worse, and keep rotting away. Amputation is required.
E. You just suddenly die. Out of a Field and Stream magazine article on Brown Recluses: A man was chopping wood and stacking it. He looked down and saw a spider hanging by the fangs out of his arm. He captured the spider in a jar, and went immediately to the emergency room. He walked inside and fell dead on the floor. The spider was identified as a brown relcuse.
F. Out of the same article: A woman was breaking out in small yellow dots with a purple center. These took two weeks to heal, and another one would appear. The doctors couldn't find anything wrong, so they told her to check her apartment for allergies. While they were looking, they dismantled the water bed to check for mold. Underneath were dozens of brown recluse spiders. They bug bombed the apartment, and the strange sores went away.
Brown recluse spiders are nothing to take lightly, for years they were not even considered venomous to humans, and their bites were atributed to black widows. When outhouses went away, the old sweat and pain symptoms went away, but the odd bites and sicknesses stayed. Scientists had to inform the public that recluse spiders were indeed venomous.
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And don't beleive everything in that article, Brown Recluses do form webs. It's the males that go out in search of females that are mistaken as "hunting prey". They are actually looking for a mate. The females form webs that look like sheets, and are very white. These are made in wood, under beds, and in other sheltered places. And don't confuse wolf spiders with brown recluses, because the wolf spiders can actually help get rid of them by eating the males that roam around.
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I hate Spiders, always have since I was a kid, they are all going to die this weekend when Hawco dons, gloves, mask and big tank of spray, Outside first then I'm going to look in every nook and cranny inside for any of these brown recluse things. Just like the closing down sales when they tell ya that "Everything must go!" Well in this case, it's "Everything must die!"
Don't care if it the spider kills this or that, they are all dead-period
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Have fun with the cockroaches!
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Originally posted by Elfie
The last time I found a Black Widow in our shed, I fired up the hand held propane torch. Kill on contact. :D
Yeah, I do that sometimes.