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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: WMLute on July 13, 2007, 10:16:48 AM
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The hat on my M.S. Sidewinder Precision 2 is going out, so I started cruising Ebay for a new one.
Was talkin' to a squaddie about it the other day. What I REALLY miss was my original Precision Pro, which had a "shift" button so you could program the buttons to have two functions. 8 buttons become 16.
Was something special about that joystick. Everytime it broke I was able to take it apart, and fix it. Was able to keep it going for 6 years (or more). The Precision 2 just never seemed as "durable" and i've gone through three Precistion Pro's vs. the one Precision 2.
Anyhoo... I had just lost a bid on a Precision 2 and I see down the list someone had a listing for two M.S. Precision Joysticks in mint condition with a "Buy Now" option of $29.00 (which is very reasonable) so I immediatly clicked it.
I glanced at the picture, scanned through the listing (it said "mint condition") and proceded w/ the transaction. It wasn't untill after I had bought it I saw it was a Precision Pro (w/ the shift 16 button option) and not a Precision 2.
The seller just emailed me about it's condition. It was used less than 1/2 dozen times for one week then boxed up and has been sitting in his closet for the past 5-6 years.
IF all is as described, i'm stoked. The thought of 16 buttons again totally rocks. (yeah, I know many of y'as have those setups with a bazillin buttons and hat's on 'em, but i've ONLY used M.S. twisties from day one and it's what I know)
IIRC i can even use the shift for the Hat switch, and i'm thinkin' of putting the trim there.
The 2nd joystick is just a simple Sidewinder and is pretty much spare parts to me.
(I know, it's stilly, but I am really excited about this)
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The "shift" button is just another button. I've got a Prec Pro gameport, and there's no software or anything special to map as a "shift" button. At least not in WinXP.
I still got around it by mapping 2 stick sets and using 1 button on each stickset to toggle the other (a button on stickset one activates stickset two, and vice versa in stickset 2).
The "shift" button is in a bad spot, though, so I use it for zoom toggle. Using the hat for trim works surprisingly well. I have it mapped to elevator and aileron trim, although I guess ailerons aren't so important and you could map rudder instead. I have pedals so I didn't think it was necessary.
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I still believe the MS Force Feedback2 is one of the best sticks money can buy. Precise, durable, and it feels great.
Damn you for closing Sidewinder, Microsoft!
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These sticks aren't great, but they're damn good. They're also old. Imagine if MS were using up-to-date technology!
EDIT: P.S. Force Feedback was never to my liking. I avoid it always when getting a stick.
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I'm still using the same MS Sidewinder Pro my ex bought me in '96. I've never done anything to it but recently it's started to spike occasionally although not enough to be a problem (maybe once in a 3 hour session). Anyone know an easy way to remedy this?
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Hey lute, I believe I have the switches for that HAT on that joystick. PM me if u want some.
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Rumor has it tatetot has a sidewinder that still works and he doesn't use in the garage.:noid
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Pacerr is a PPS mini distibutor, no kidding. If you need one, he buys them in lots, and has them tested. Look him up ingame!
Mark
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Been looking for a kid-size joystick. Do they make those too?
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Some are smaller than others, but "kid size"? I don't think so.
Just get a cheap stick for a kid. They'll bang it around, drop it, slam it, whatever. Don't worry about size, you can rig thicker rest pads to make up for the height of the stick, if needed.
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Thanks Krusty:)
(it's for me. I won't bang it around or drop it too much. I might throw it ocassionally though)
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hey texasmom what part of texas are you from
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(*glances at weather map*)
I'm guessing the part that's under 3 feet of water.
That is to say, everywhere! :rofl
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Originally posted by LTARkilz
hey texasmom what part of texas are you from
Killeen. (N of Austin, S of Dallas, W of both)
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Actually I'm sitting on 4 prec pro's and a pair of Prec 2 Usb's.
The Prec pro's my wife finds for me at the second hand store for 2 -3 $ each.
Just bought 2 Prec 2's on ebay last month, averaged 28 - 30$ with shipping.
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LMFAO you dont need to give me directions to Killeen. was raised up in Brenham Texas:aok
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Originally posted by Krusty
These sticks aren't great, but they're damn good. They're also old. Imagine if MS were using up-to-date technology!
EDIT: P.S. Force Feedback was never to my liking. I avoid it always when getting a stick.
You don't turn on the FF in games that require precision, you only use it for return-to-center tension. Allows for fantastic precision that only wears out when the engine in the stick itself wears out.
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Originally posted by LTARkilz
LMFAO you dont need to give me directions to Killeen. was raised up in Brenham Texas:aok
LOL ~ we go to Houston at least once a month. Brenham is our little checkpoint ~ halfway there!
Last trip, my 8 year old said, 'mom, are we at the spawn point yet?' (meaning brenham)
almost drove off the road laughing.
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<<<< is East of Houston
:rofl Spawn Point
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Originally posted by Shuffler
<<<< is East of Houston
It's your little town that we go to Shuffer.:)
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Originally posted by texasmom
LOL ~ we go to Houston at least once a month. Brenham is our little checkpoint ~ halfway there!
Last trip, my 8 year old said, 'mom, are we at the spawn point yet?' (meaning brenham)
almost drove off the road laughing.
LMFAO soon to be AH2 addict :rofl
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Hempstead still have that Texas Burger? GOSH ALMIGHTY that thing was good.....AND the CHicken Fried Steak sandwich to.
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Originally posted by RedTop
Hempstead still have that Texas Burger? GOSH ALMIGHTY that thing was good.....AND the CHicken Fried Steak sandwich to.
I'll check it out tomorrow. :)
We usually wait until waller county line to stop. :)
I'll put the reply in the burger thread, since i've jacked Lute's here *wink*
sorry!
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Originally posted by Krusty
These sticks aren't great, but they're damn good. They're also old. Imagine if MS were using up-to-date technology!
Yeah, there would be a firmware hack and you'd have to have your jostick patched because people could take over your computer :lol
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I sold 2 MSFF pro's to Deth7 a few years ago. Less than 50 bucks for both. Wonder if they still working for him. Hope so.
Oz
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Originally posted by texasmom
I'll check it out tomorrow. :)
We usually wait until waller county line to stop. :)
I'll put the reply in the burger thread, since i've jacked Lute's here *wink*
sorry!
Lute needs a good Hijacking since all he wanted to talk about was his new PP stick .
:noid
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I agree Lute with the liking fewer buttons on the stick. I have my trigger buttons (only use one) and I have a VIEW_UP button and my flaps. Thats it. I dont need all the other stuff like map view etc on it.
I too prefer twistys as well. Some guys spend boatloads on rudder pedals, sticks and throttles when you can do the same thing with a good stick.
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Originally posted by FiLtH
I agree Lute with the liking fewer buttons on the stick. I have my trigger buttons (only use one) and I have a VIEW_UP button and my flaps. Thats it. I dont need all the other stuff like map view etc on it.
I too prefer twistys as well. Some guys spend boatloads on rudder pedals, sticks and throttles when you can do the same thing with a good stick.
here here i own a Saitek AV8R-01 its a sweet stick. also a twisty stick. i am able to program 2 modes on it. i have one for my dogfighting and one for my bombers. its sweet for bombers. if i lose one engine in my bombers i can kill the other one at a flip of a toggle switch. :aok