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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Nimrod45 on July 22, 2007, 10:48:05 PM
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What is the big gripe against HOs, it's not like you absolutely have to accept one, is all you have to do is decline by maneuver. It seems to me only the loser is going to complain and yet it was a choice.
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couldnt agree more nim...
I avoid the HO like i avoid ch 200
HO = lack of skill
CH 200 = to much poop talk:cool:
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Originally posted by Nimrod45
What is the big gripe against HOs, it's not like you absolutely have to accept one, is all you have to do is decline by maneuver. It seems to me only the loser is going to complain and yet it was a choice.
i've learned to avoid them.....about 1/2 the time......but once a guy's commin right at ur nose like that, u turn u give him a big target......and it seems all the cannon plane guys like to do it..uumm....well....the NEW guys in the cannon planes.........u should try avoidin it in a p38:D
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john
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Maneuver just enough to avoid their guns, then spray them. You get a kill from a front quarter shot, they get a new plane, and no one gets HOed. Everybody wins!
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Not every Head On is able to be avoided and I think most rational players know that. What most complain about are those that only maneuver for the Head On shot at the expense of all other, more viable tactics.
If the only thing you have is the Head On, then I highly recommend you seek the services of a trainer or take the time to read some of the excellent books out there that explain the concept of air combat maneuvering and how to best employ these maneuvers.
ack-ack
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I see froger's joined in on the jigglin' jugs avatar craze.
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Originally posted by OOZ662
I see froger's joined in on the jigglin' jugs avatar craze.
LOL
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Originally posted by OOZ662
I see froger's joined in on the jigglin' jugs avatar craze.
Too bad they weren't real!
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I'm actually glad that her's (<-----) don't do that. Call me freakish, I guess. :D
(Isn't this a much better topic than HOing? :rofl)
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Problem is, some planes have the capability to instantly turn a high rear-quarter or full-plane shot into a HO (Hurricane IIC and N1K2 come to mind).
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Very, Very seldom, in fact almost so rare as to be nonexistant are you locked into a HO without an option, if you see it coming then you can do something about it.
As for the Hurricane, that is its best defense against an LA-7 in my book, everytime he tries to make a swipe at you turn and give him a head on, the LA doesn't stand much against the four cannon Hurri.
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Also if a guy tries only for the HO at the expense of everything else then I say he is CANNON FODDER, he won't last long and I don't care if that is his choice of maneuver, I can avoid it.
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I see froger's joined in on the jigglin' jugs avatar craze.
Another avatar for me to stare transfixed at:aok
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Originally posted by Nimrod45
Also if a guy tries only for the HO at the expense of everything else then I say he is CANNON FODDER, he won't last long and I don't care if that is his choice of maneuver, I can avoid it.
You can avoid 8 - .50 cals at 1.5k?
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When they miss their ho though, I see many try to ram your plane probably knowing they will lose if it got into a 1v1.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
You can avoid 8 - .50 cals at 1.5k?
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Only if I am praying harder than the guy who does spray and pray at 1.5k!!!
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Originally posted by Nimrod45
Very, Very seldom, in fact almost so rare as to be nonexistant are you locked into a HO without an option, if you see it coming then you can do something about it.
I see you don't fly the heavies then! Or, at least, you fly them the way they're supposed to be flown!
I can't tell you how many times I've been slow on the deck in a jug in a multi plane engagement, only to see an La-7 closing fast from 2.0k out. You know he's going to try to HO. The Jug wallowing around, controls mushy, best I can do is nose down one way or the other when he's in range, presenting him a front quarter deflection shot. If he takes it and gets hits, he doesn't consider it a HO, but given my options, I was locked in to either HO myself, or give him that shot. I'll almost always give up the shot and not HO, but you can see how the only option I have other than the HO is a somewhat negative one.
I agree with you though that with equal E, there is pretty much no way you can be locked into a HO without an option.
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Very good point Trotter, if your energy doesn't allow you an option your in a pickle, or if you are in a big bomber. Also you are right I don't fly the heavy fighters very much at all.
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I like HO's, because if the person your fighting against (me) has an idea of what they're doing, it puts you at a big disadvantage. They also result in both planes taking damage most of the time.
Overall, HO'ing is a bad decision, and shows a lack of skill, because if you had skill you'd realize that it was a bad decision.
So when I see someone try to HO me, I think "sweet, this should be easy."
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Yeppers...
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