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Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Chairboy on July 24, 2007, 12:49:02 AM
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Yay me!  No cheating, the questions aren't too hard.
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: McFarland on July 24, 2007, 03:14:06 AM
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Too easy. They should actually put some tough questions on that test.
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Angus on July 24, 2007, 05:29:46 AM
who took that test?

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Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Serenity on July 24, 2007, 05:53:45 AM
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Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Excel1 on July 24, 2007, 07:09:01 AM
Did the test a few times.

As a male whitebread I'm relatively dumb. My highest score came as a female of  Black/African descent.
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: lasersailor184 on July 24, 2007, 07:55:06 AM
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Originally posted by Excel1
Did the test a few times.

As a male whitebread I'm relatively dumb. My highest score came as a female of  Black/African descent.


:rofl   Are you serious?
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: DREDIOCK on July 24, 2007, 08:17:14 AM
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Originally posted by Excel1
Did the test a few times.

As a male whitebread I'm relatively dumb. My highest score came as a female of  Black/African descent.


Affirmative action hard at work LOL
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: lazs2 on July 24, 2007, 08:35:25 AM
I will wait till you all take it and then tell you what I got.

lazs
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Airscrew on July 24, 2007, 09:11:20 AM
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I'm trying to figure out what ethnicity has to do with how smart or how not smart I am...
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Chairboy on July 24, 2007, 09:36:05 AM
No kidding.  I got 25/25 correct, I figured the sub-100% meant that it was taking time or the size of the 100% correct group into consideration.  For race, I put in 'Other' because I'm not a damn statistic.  If that changed the results, that's pretty messed up.
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: lazs2 on July 24, 2007, 02:39:02 PM
why would you not want to know if race was or wasn't a factor?   Is that data that should be censored of something?

lazs
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Chairboy on July 24, 2007, 02:43:57 PM
Who said anything about it being censored?  I just don't feel a need to participate in that aspect of the data collection, and they didn't have a 'Decline' option.

As Patrick McGoohan said, "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own."
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: lazs2 on July 24, 2007, 02:49:06 PM
you miss my point.   why would you not want to help in gathering data.

The score you get is the score you get... the race you are is the race you are.

my comment on it being censored was not to the site but to you.. do you think it should be censored?

Looking at your reply I see that what you appear to want is a way to not participate in the gathering of the data.   That is fine.. but I am curious...

Why would you not?  data is data.  it will have a margin of error... guys like you but... it might be useful in some way.

lazs
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Chairboy on July 24, 2007, 03:13:27 PM
Useful to who?  There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.  Why would I want to give a white supremecist, liberal crazy person, black panther, or someone else with some other axe to grind fuel for their agenda?

My agenda is to claim that I'm a smarty-pants with a rapist-like wit, and that's it.  Anything past that, in terms of data gathering, conclusions of groups, etc, is not my interest.  If the quiz had 'Decline to specify' as an option, they could leave those results out of their data gathering, but they didn't, so I used the closest available.
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: AquaShrimp on July 24, 2007, 03:47:33 PM
This test was rigged.  It didn't ask any questions about World War II, the old Testament in the Bible, fishing, or guns.
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: AWMac on July 24, 2007, 03:58:17 PM
They called me right after I took the test.



The President wants to speak with me along with......













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Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Holden McGroin on July 24, 2007, 04:01:57 PM
Whatever you score, just remember:

Jesus loves you, but I am his favorite.
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Airscrew on July 24, 2007, 04:10:34 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Useful to who?  There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.  Why would I want to give a white supremecist, liberal crazy person, black panther, or someone else with some other axe to grind fuel for their agenda?

My agenda is to claim that I'm a smarty-pants with a rapist-like wit, and that's it.  Anything past that, in terms of data gathering, conclusions of groups, etc, is not my interest.  If the quiz had 'Decline to specify' as an option, they could leave those results out of their data gathering, but they didn't, so I used the closest available.


Normally I dont butt in but I made an exception in this case.   I would like to point out that you may have made a slight error in terms.

rapist-like wit?  perhaps you meant rapier-like wit?  Not judging or anything just helping out
:cool:   cause I really cant think of anything a rapist did that was witty.  However a Rapier - [a longer, heavier sword, esp. of the 16th and 17th centuries, having a double-edged blade and used for slashing and thrusting. ]  is probably what you where looking for
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Latrobe on July 24, 2007, 04:26:28 PM
:lol  got a 17.1% on first try got a 14% next try and you know what.....This thing is pretty accurate!:D
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Chairboy on July 24, 2007, 05:07:38 PM
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Originally posted by Airscrew
rapist-like wit?  perhaps you meant rapier-like wit?  Not judging or anything just helping out
:cool:   cause I really cant think of anything a rapist did that was witty.  However a Rapier - [a longer, heavier sword, esp. of the 16th and 17th centuries, having a double-edged blade and used for slashing and thrusting. ]  is probably what you where looking for
See:Dumb & Dumber.  It's a play on rapier-like wit, one of the few things in that movie that made me just about lose it.
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Airscrew on July 24, 2007, 06:21:11 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
See:Dumb & Dumber.  It's a play on rapier-like wit, one of the few things in that movie that made me just about lose it.

I'll have to think about that,... I have to watch a whole movie just to get one joke?   I tried to watch it once, I didnt last long...
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Meatwad on July 24, 2007, 07:27:50 PM
I IS DUM

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Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: lasersailor184 on July 24, 2007, 07:32:42 PM
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Originally posted by Airscrew
Normally I dont butt in but I made an exception in this case.   I would like to point out that you may have made a slight error in terms.

rapist-like wit?  perhaps you meant rapier-like wit?  Not judging or anything just helping out
:cool:   cause I really cant think of anything a rapist did that was witty.  However a Rapier - [a longer, heavier sword, esp. of the 16th and 17th centuries, having a double-edged blade and used for slashing and thrusting. ]  is probably what you where looking for


Perhaps I could be mistaken, but I don't think that is what a Rapier is.  I thought it was a lighter sword meant for making fine poking motions...
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Holden McGroin on July 24, 2007, 07:38:05 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Perhaps I could be mistaken, but I don't think that is what a Rapier is.  I thought it was a lighter sword meant for making fine poking motions...


The 3 olympic fencing insturments are the foil; for light poking, the Epee; for heavier poking, and the Sabre; for heavy poking and cutting.  The Rapier is a heavier poking weapon with a ornate hilt.
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: john9001 on July 24, 2007, 07:42:14 PM
Rapier generally refers to a relatively long-bladed sword characterized by a complex hilt which is constructed to provide protection for the hand wielding it. While the blade might be broad enough to cut to some degree, the strength of the rapier is its ability as a thrusting weapon. The blade might be sharpened along its entire length, sharpened only from the center to the tip (as described by Capoferro), or completely without a cutting edge as called "estoc" by Pallavicini, a rapier master who, in 1670, strongly advocated using a weapon with two cutting edges. A typical example would have a relatively long and slender blade of 2.5 centimetres or less in width, 1 meter or more in length and ending in a sharply pointed tip.
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: JB73 on July 24, 2007, 07:51:30 PM
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Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Excel1 on July 24, 2007, 09:33:25 PM
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:rofl   Are you serious?


oh yeah, I always take the opportunity and mess with the busybodies- census forms and the like, let alone something like inteligence based racial profiling done on the sly.
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Oogly50 on July 24, 2007, 09:41:11 PM
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Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Mark Luper on July 24, 2007, 09:54:50 PM
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Originally posted by Excel1
Did the test a few times.

As a male whitebread I'm relatively dumb. My highest score came as a female of  Black/African descent.


I got the same score both as a white male and as a female of Black/African decent. Missed the same number of questions. Got the same 82% score.

Word.

Mark
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Excel1 on July 24, 2007, 11:29:25 PM
Ok Mark, but I didn't say the test was slanted to give a better result favouring any particular ethnicity, and I didn't say I didn't cheat either, which I did- to bump the score up a bit when doing the test using alternate ethnicities.

Edit: just to clarify, I don't think the true purpose of that test is to show how smart or dumb people are in an entertaining frivolous sort of way as it would seem to be. It's appears to me to be information gathering for potentially insidious purposes.
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: texasmom on July 25, 2007, 12:35:40 AM
OK. I took the dang test.

I'm much smarter than I look... but not nearly as smart as I think I am.
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: lazs2 on July 25, 2007, 08:54:04 AM
chair... why would you trust the test results of a racist site like that?   I mean..  how do you know you aren't playing right into their hands?

Think of it this way...They are simply asking for race to make a curve... just like the bell curve book did..  sorry... some races are smarter than others... who knows why... it matters not.. we all know it even tho few admit it.

Now... take the real abhorent racial profiling... you go to get a loan.. they ask your race.   Why is  that?   Ask after you get the loan if they need to get stats.

They don't want stats tho.. they want affirmative action.. an evil idea.

When last asked about my race I said "what is popular for loans these days?"

"er... American indian is good" she said.  "put me down for that" I said.

"are you?"

"of course.. you aren't discriminating against me because of my race are you?  You better have some strong proof that I am not if you slander my indianess."

In your case tho... they provided a test that you could pass up with no ill effects to you..  a real protest against their "agenda" as you see it would have been to ignore the site entirely.

lazs
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Chairboy on July 25, 2007, 09:19:16 AM
Lazs, I guess I just don't see how your message is a reply to mine, it seems almost as if you missed each and every thing I said in my post.  Were you talking to someone else?
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: BlauK on July 25, 2007, 10:37:25 AM
84,68% ... 2 wrong answers. Not so bad from a foreigner answering slightly US centered questions, eh ;)
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: 64kills on July 25, 2007, 12:34:22 PM
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Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Wes14 on July 25, 2007, 12:45:05 PM
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Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Airscrew on July 25, 2007, 12:55:01 PM
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In your case tho... they provided a test that you could pass up with no ill effects to you..  a real protest against their "agenda" as you see it would have been to ignore the site entirely.
lazs

it was more fun to take the test several times (more than 10 less than 20) and answer the questions all wrong. :cool:  really screw with their stats...  My purpose in the world is to be the +/-  % error rate
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: lazs2 on July 25, 2007, 02:23:17 PM
chair... I guess we are even then because for the life of me...  I can't see how any of your answers are an answer to anything I have said either.

It is simple.. if you think a site has an agenda... don't participate...

With affirmative action... you are forced to participate.

How can stats be used wrong if all they are is a test and then a question as to race?   if you can see a way then you need to not participate at all.

lazs
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: Excel1 on July 26, 2007, 06:33:59 AM
lazs your missing the point. If there's no agenda then why is there  a requirement to state your race before you can perform a test that that gives a fairly decent guide of your intelligence, level of education and general knowledge to some anonymous person/organisation/government? It's not stated on that test site that I could see, as to an explanation of why they need your ethnicity but just the fact that it's a requirement to give it means there's an agenda of some sort. It may be fairly innocuous... data collection for advertising reasons (I doubt that though) or it could be used to support affirmative action, or some form of extreme social engineering or what Chairboy said. It's pretty cunning; most people probably would give their ethnicity without a second thought. But I bet if it asked for their sexual orientation as well it would be a reason to think twice about it.  And as for ignoring it because it's voluntary why give it even that much respect?  

This has been the opinion of a transsexual, Jewish, pole stripper of Asian descent with an income of $120k
Title: Are I dumb?
Post by: lazs2 on July 26, 2007, 08:16:09 AM
maybe I do miss the point but....

If I see that a site that asks me to answer questions has a clear agenda on at least one of them....

One that I don't like...  I would assume that the rest of the questions were rigged to suit that agenda.

If the agenda is to gather data on race and IQ... I really see nothing wrong with that at all... it is good to know.  most of us have pretty much intuited it by now but...

Look at the hate and anger that was directed at "the bell curve" it really was a simple study... less flawed than most at that... but.. the PC crowd went ape****.

Oh well...  Like I said.. if knowing anything about race and IQ is something that is too evil to seek answers to for you then I would simply suggest that you stay away from any activity that might do research on it.  

petition your woman democrat to make a law against "hate studies" .

lazs