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Title: looking for a 38 trainer
Post by: ScorpCH on July 25, 2007, 09:22:28 AM
Im wondering if i can get some 1-on-1 time with a trainer in the TA in a p38, been gone away from the game for a while and i lost my touch (arguable if i ever had it at all:noid ).  I know Murdr is the man to talk to, but if others are avaliable i would like to set up a meetign time



Scorp
Title: looking for a 38 trainer
Post by: mensa180 on July 25, 2007, 05:58:51 PM
I think someone in SAPP could help you out, I'd try asking them when they're online.  I'm not much a teacher unfortunately, but I could give it a try if your desperate.
Title: looking for a 38 trainer
Post by: Spikes on July 25, 2007, 06:51:46 PM
Fly the G, you will fall in love with it.
Title: looking for a 38 trainer
Post by: mensa180 on July 25, 2007, 07:02:49 PM
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Originally posted by SpikesX
Fly the G, you will fall in love with it.


G is the only way to go.  Not those filthy Js or Ls ;) .
Title: looking for a 38 trainer
Post by: Spikes on July 25, 2007, 07:05:04 PM
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Originally posted by mensa180
G is the only way to go.  Not those filthy Js or Ls ;) .


G's turn better. :p
Title: looking for a 38 trainer
Post by: SgtPappy on July 25, 2007, 11:21:42 PM
Hey all, while we're on the topic, I got some questions.

Don't know if it's a myth but I once was told that the P-38L could hit 444 mph with WEP... the engine's weren't tuned to the regular 1,600 hp. Is this 444 mph flight true?

Also, I noticed our P-38J and L are IDENTICAL in weight and performance according to Gonzo's charts. However, I'm pretty sure the hydraulically-boosted P-38L-1 (which also has dive-flaps) is supposed to be a good deal heavier.
Title: looking for a 38 trainer
Post by: ScorpCH on July 26, 2007, 08:04:01 AM
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Originally posted by SgtPappy
Hey all, while we're on the topic, I got some questions.

Don't know if it's a myth but I once was told that the P-38L could hit 444 mph with WEP... the engine's weren't tuned to the regular 1,600 hp. Is this 444 mph flight true?

Also, I noticed our P-38J and L are IDENTICAL in weight and performance according to Gonzo's charts. However, I'm pretty sure the hydraulically-boosted P-38L-1 (which also has dive-flaps) is supposed to be a good deal heavier.


i have gotten the J to 450ish before i just put in a little right rudder and a small amount of left airleon to keep it from exceding that, i tell ya, when i caught him, that was one pissed off LA7 pilot :)
Title: looking for a 38 trainer
Post by: SgtPappy on July 26, 2007, 10:14:51 AM
Woops. My bad, I meant that I once heard a rumour that the P-38 could hit 444 mph in level flight. Benny once told me that the P-38L's engines were once tweaked to give off about 2,000 hp each... this output was not made by higher grade fuel I think... but just some clarification if that mod ever made the 38L go 444.
Title: looking for a 38 trainer
Post by: crockett on July 26, 2007, 12:13:08 PM
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Originally posted by SpikesX
Fly the G, you will fall in love with it.


Yep, fly the G.

Assuming you like to fight. If you want a bomber use the L ot J. Don't worry you will get over the windscreen. It sucks at first but after awhile you get over it and will eventually barely notice it.
Title: looking for a 38 trainer
Post by: ScorpCH on July 26, 2007, 12:47:24 PM
i flew the G for a little while and i liked it, not the fastest plane in the skies, but it is very manuverable, spit like tendancies.  i'll fly the G model a little bit more, get back to ya on it.
Title: looking for a 38 trainer
Post by: Murdr on July 26, 2007, 02:38:54 PM
I should be around this weekend Scorp if you want to PM me.
Title: looking for a 38 trainer
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on July 26, 2007, 03:29:04 PM
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Originally posted by SgtPappy
Woops. My bad, I meant that I once heard a rumour that the P-38 could hit 444 mph in level flight. Benny once told me that the P-38L's engines were once tweaked to give off about 2,000 hp each... this output was not made by higher grade fuel I think... but just some clarification if that mod ever made the 38L go 444.


Not really the place for this, so I'll keep it brief. If you want more, search the forums, this has been discussed at length repeatedly.

The P-38L was rated by Lockheed at around 442MPH, verified by Lockheed test pilots and logs. The P-38L was equipped with -30 Allison engines with considerably more HP that the engines in the P-38J, however they did NOT make close to 2000HP each. The engines in the P-38L were capable of sustained operation at over 3200RPM, and at MAP of above 75".

However, the USAAF did not accept the Lockheed/Allison ratings, and in effect rated the P-38L at its military power level only, resulting in a rated top speed about equal to that of the P-38J-20-Lo at WEP, about 425MPH.

There is evidence that Lockheed and Allison engineers and representatives in the field showed 8th AF crew chiefs how to rig the P-38L for the full power rating, however, HTC does not model field modifications, for various good reasons.

The P-38J and P-38L were run on 150 octane fuel, but again, the USAAF did not allow the power ratings that the P-38 could have produced by taking advantage of the high octane fuel. At least not officially. The official ratings were 64" and 3000RPM.
Title: looking for a 38 trainer
Post by: SgtPappy on July 27, 2007, 12:26:02 PM
Oh I see thanks!

Also, if anyone has some films of AH:II P-38's in combat, I'd like to see.