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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Guppy35 on July 26, 2007, 02:20:14 AM
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Not complaining, just wierd.
Soulyss and I were winging tonite and during a brawl with the Bish, he says "I'm fighting an LA7 with no wings!" I've got my film on so I check it later and sure enough here he is. He flew wingless and smoking for five minutes of my film.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/wingless.jpg)
We land and go back to the same fight and I dive in on an LA7 and he's got no tail but he's flying just fine.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/no-tail.jpg)
Thankfully I've got the film rolling cause this is strange. I get the angle on him and I blow his left wing off.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/wingoff1.jpg)
You can see the wreckage of his wing fly past me
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/wing-off2.jpg)
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Nothing...no kill message...he just keeps flying, and even stranger he sets up to land.
From the film the gear comes down.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/landing-invisible.jpg)
And he lands three kills!
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/wingless-landing.jpg)
Now it's from two different films. Soulyss and I both saw it, and it's the same guy both times. What's the glitch?
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It's because you are too nice and humble, start acting like SkyRock, and planes blow up nicely! :aok
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I've never seen a glitch like that. That is strange indeed.
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This is nothing.
Have you ever check 6, and see a flying Boat 300y back shooting @ you
at 6k alt ?
(this flying boat was HT making jokes to poor lonely pilots.
still waiting for this flying banana).
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I know.... this is stupid... fits too well though.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i253/plague_06/wtfh4x.jpg)
On a serious note, I have noticed some issues with damage lately, which I suspect is due to some sort of server issue.
I've put very large 4 x 20mm bursts into wing-roots and been rewarded with nothing but a fuel leak, if that at all. These hits would usually result in 1 of two things; instant removal of wing or instant explosion of the target.....
No whine.... just noticed this happen a lot a couple of nights ago.
Is it possible that some data is not reaching HT's server? Could that explain what I saw to be catastrophic damage resulting in just a few dings in the paint?
It would seem though, that if two people are receiving that same image that my theory doesn't explain it.
Mmmm.
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packet lose ?
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I think it's time to perk the LA
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:rofl
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Had it happen to me once but it was a Spitfire Mk XVI. Blew the port wing off and it still was able to fly and fight. Passed it off as a graphical glitch caused by the guy's bad connection. The player in the Spitfire afterwards said that his connection had gone south during that flight.
ack-ack
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Who was the player?
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Ive seen those types of planes every now again for over 3 months. I personnally shot one wing off, and when it was all said and dne. There was nothing left but a flying canopy. The thing couldnt do much cause he had no guns left, I believe the plane was originally a P-51, but I havent seen it in while. I didnt think to record it, but I know there were like 6 people around all taking pot shots of it. Never did find out who the player was.
Maybe HT can look into it with your film. At first its pretty funny, then its very fustrating.
Cheers
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Originally posted by 4deck
Ive seen those types of planes every now again for over 3 months. I personnally shot one wing off, and when it was all said and dne. There was nothing left but a flying canopy. The thing couldnt do much cause he had no guns left, I believe the plane was originally a P-51, but I havent seen it in while. I didnt think to record it, but I know there were like 6 people around all taking pot shots of it. Never did find out who the player was.
Maybe HT can look into it with your film. At first its pretty funny, then its very fustrating.
Cheers
Sent a similar film in one night after 1Duke1 and I observed the same thing in a different plane type. Never heard any response.
- oldman
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Originally posted by Oldman731
Sent a similar film in one night after 1Duke1 and I observed the same thing in a different plane type. Never heard any response.
- oldman
You probably never will either ... Dan I hope you are sending that in to HT.
I would have dismissed it as a rendering issue until I saw the screenshot of Dan actually shooting the wing off and the debris flying by and then it continues to fly ... that's beyond weird as far as I am concerned.
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You see the plane on your FE, you fire, if your FE says you hit him, you send that info to HTCs server, it says "okay, you got a hit" and then it sends the code to the target saying "okay, you've been hit" and then it sends the code back to the shooter saying "okay, show his wing as popping off"
So, if the server weren't getting the "I shot you" info, you would never have got the "okay, show the wing popping off" info, and you'd see rubber bullets rather than magic flying corpses.
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Can you send that film in guppy? Support@hitechcreations.com
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Does having more than one film help in figuring this stuff out @ all Waffle? I can dig up mine from last night if you want it.
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Originally posted by Waffle
Can you send that film in guppy? Support@hitechcreations.com
Sure can.
It's actually two different films from two fights at the same base within about 20 minutes of each other. Same guy both times however.
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Had the same exact thing happen a while back, BGTazz filmed it and sent it in. It was a F4U attacking our V-Base. Now mind you he was a complete F4u when he started attacking but after several hits with my Osti and BGTazz Unloading everything he's got from his plane into we Whittled it down piece by piece until it was just a engine and prop flying around. Never did get a kill on him.
I posted about it here in the BBS and BGtazz sent the film in to HTC. Never did hear anything else about it.
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Dan isn't the kind of guy to mention names, which is why you don't see it in his original post.
HTC probably doesn't talk about things like this because if there is a problem it is likely best solved quietly without fanfare. And so long as the problem is resolved, the rest doesn't matter.
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It has happened to me before as well, usually during a "bad connect"
kind of night. Saw the same guy flying an LA-7 around that was down to
just a cockpit :)
He ended up landing too...odd.
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Originally posted by LYNX
packet lose ?
UDP at its best. Or is it? tatataaaaaaaaaaN
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Well it would be neat to think of it as packet loss......however given
Hits are recorded on the agressers FE and damage is accumulated on the victims FE .
If other players see the damage then there was no packet loss (the La was flying and manouvering in every other respect as if undamaged)
Given that I would only assume that thru some glich the La's FM remained unchanged regardless of damage...............
I have seen wierd stuff which could be as a result of packet loss IE wingless planes flying on and sometimes seeming to carry out basic manouvres but they always update them selves eventually.............this La landed that is a quite complex manouvre for a plane with no wheels and half its body work missing.
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Originally posted by Tilt
Well it would be neat to think of it as packet loss......however given
Hits are recorded on the agressers FE and damage is accumulated on the victims FE .
If other players see the damage then there was no packet loss (the La was flying and manouvering in every other respect as if undamaged)
Noooooooop, the packet loss could be at the receivers FE. That would explain why every one else could see the damage. The guy proly lost UDP (or... er never mind) and due to some bug the receiving link never re established while the sending was still workin
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Ive seen that happen once for certian. It was way back in AH1 with a Zero. I did send in the film.
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Its a Monty Python and the Holy Grail LA-7.
"I just shot both your wings off"
"Thats just a flesh wound"
:lol
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Easy to explain. His flux capacitor was only operating at 50%. He needed more jigawatts to get it fully operational. :aok
Glove
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Wait! Guppy's plane is whole and the other guy's is shredded? Something fishy going on here.
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Originally posted by TinmanX
Wait! Guppy's plane is whole and the other guy's is shredded? Something fishy going on here.
Shhhhhhh!!!!!
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wtg sapp's
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Originally posted by LYNX
packet lose ?
I would agree with you there LYNX. But for that length of time?
:confused:
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Originally posted by TinmanX
Wait! Guppy's plane is whole and the other guy's is shredded? Something fishy going on here.
I was thinking the Same thing Tin. But he did say one picture was from early in
flight:rofl BTW to everyone who wants to post a " PROBLEM " with the game.
Please take notes. Pictures .......... No names ........ And Class .:aok
Crims
479th Raiders FG
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Originally posted by Squire
Its a Monty Python and the Holy Grail LA-7.
"I just shot both your wings off"
"Thats just a flesh wound"
:lol
Yeah but this one makes Monty even blush
:D
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Originally posted by AAkupton
I think it's time to perk the LA
:rofl :aok
Wierd Dan. Handled nicely though.
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Originally posted by Gloves
Easy to explain. His flux capacitor was only operating at 50%. He needed more jigawatts to get it fully operational. :aok
Glove
what!?!?
:rolleyes:
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No worries Glove. Those of us born before 1990 actually get the joke.
:lol
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Originally posted by PanzerIV
what!?!?
:rolleyes:
I think the pilot of the LA-7 was Marty McFly. :p
Glove
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I was hit from all sides...gang tards, HO's, cherry pickers, rammers....you name it...
Fortunately, despite incalculable hits on my aircraft, I noticed I still had a tailwheel (JUST a tailwheel, all other parts were gone).... Carefully lining up from about 10K out, I was able to land on the runway, scoring 227 kills.
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omg, am i so old now that someone may not know a reference to a classic...shoot me now and get it over with.
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The guy only paid 1/2 of his subscription?
-SR-:p
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I have seen this same situation and it always seems to be with the LA, I rarly record film though while I am flying, but maybe it has something to do with the LA 7 flight model itself, because I have also seen the damage change in the past few months as well, Just the other day I put 5 20mm m2s in a LA 7 wing, and nothing but a fuel leak came out of it, I have also seen them fly without a tail. Maybe the LA-7 model needs to be looked at, things can happen when u update games and have new versions. most the incidents I have run into with the LA- have been on the deck with me in a corsair, do not know if that matters. But on the same note, within the past month or so I have been taking Heavy damage in my corsair without heavy damage, i can recall several encounters
1. TA 152 dove in on me, put a 37mm tater squar into my fusalage, I heard the hit, as well as the player msged me saying he couldnt belive my plane took the hit and didnt lose anything. Neither could I as i had 0 damage on my plane other than a hole.
2. La-7 puts atleast 5 20mms into my plane in variouse locations, took 1 gun damage, ended up shooting him down.
3. 190 is behind me and i go into s scissors to force overshoot, he racks my plane twice on 2 passes befor I end up behind him, once again no damage.
I guess the damage model is a little tricky. I have aslo seen planes drop with just a few hits from 50 cals, but i have also seen them turn into flying tanks, any thoughts on this?? or has anyone noticed any damage difference latley?
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Originally posted by WaRLoCkL
or has anyone noticed any damage difference latley?
I was behind your corsair the other day, it flew into pieces quite as expected. :D
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IT WAS MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEE
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You must be great at flying those, howd ya do it?
Rudder? Decrease manifold pressure? or just had a messed up connection?