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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: DREDIOCK on July 27, 2007, 08:53:06 AM
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BOSTON (July 26) - In a stinging rebuke of the FBI, a federal judge ordered the government to pay a record judgment of $101.7 million because agents withheld evidence that would have kept four men from spending decades in prison for a mob murder they did not commit.
Wrongfully Jailed Men Awared 101 Million Dollars (http://news.aol.com/story/_a/wrongfully-jailed-men-to-get-101-million/20070726152809990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001)
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Why does this not surprise me?
And incidents like this are why I do not trust the patriot act.
All it takes is someone with a bug up their arse
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and you are right to not trust a police state.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
and you are right to not trust a police state.
lazs
Bermuda?
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Those feds should go to jail for life.
I think it would be a fitting punishment.
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We need to use the death penalty more, had it been in place for these guys the government would have saved $101 million and nobody would have been the wiser.
shamus
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I just feel all warm and fuzzy that the judge decided we needed to pay
these guys millions...sigh, lawyers suck..period.
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Since this situation happened well before the patriot act was conceived I don't see the connection. Could you clarify how the patriot act was involved?
I'm glad to see that they were exonerated, albeit too late for 2 of them. It also seems that one of the agents also died in custody, I didn't see any info on how many agents were involved or if they are still alive.
The award would have greater impact if it were to come from the agencies funds rather than general tax revenues for the govt. but I doubt that will happen.
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Originally posted by Trell
Those feds should go to jail for life.
I think it would be a fitting punishment.
I think it would be a fitting punishment as well.
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Originally posted by Curval
Bermuda?
Curval did you ever recover your Moped that was stolen?
Mac
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Originally posted by Rino
I just feel all warm and fuzzy that the judge decided we needed to pay
these guys millions...sigh, lawyers suck..period.
They will get at least 60%, the lawyers will.
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Originally posted by SkyRock
They will get at least 60%, the lawyers will.
No they wont.
shamus
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Originally posted by Rino
I just feel all warm and fuzzy that the judge decided we needed to pay
these guys millions...sigh, lawyers suck..period.
Well all 3 of them went to jail for life, 2 of them died, one of them spent i think 29 years there?
What should they get? a simple "i'm sorry we took half your life?"
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Easy Trell! I think Rino's just saying that if they went to jail, they must have been guilty of SOMETHING. Also, he may be suggesting that they should be grateful they had the opportunity to help Our Government. Anything else, and they'd be a bunch of commies.
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Originally posted by Shamus
We need to use the death penalty more, had it been in place for these guys the government would have saved $101 million and nobody would have been the wiser.
shamus
then a year after their sentence is carried out find out they were innocent and the families sue the government and the media riding the government for years after?...
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Dammmm.... I was wrongfully jailed once.
I snuck outta the house once, well several times as a 15 Year Old. But this time was different. I was a Navy Brat (Enlisted) and was going to meet some friends, Navy Brats (Commissioned) at the Golf Course..... so fitting.
Young teen love, music, song, dancing in the Moonlight and drink. 1am on the Greens of the 7th Hole. Lakehurst, NJ. 1973.
Daughters of the Base Commander, Daughter of the Base Deputy Commander... and a few other sweeties. Chaplins Daughter, she was a HornDawg...But I regress...
Great Times Pass....
I come home around 0430 and my Sister does'nt open the door.... my Mom did.
Busted.
I didn't mention that my Dad was working Installation Security that night.
Right away my Dad's sidekick arrives in a SP vehicle, handcuffs me, tossed into the back and transported to the GDunk on Lakehurst where my loving Father is working. I'm placed into a cell across from some Squid who got busted for a DUI, he's somewhat sober by now.
My Loving Father opens my cell and sez I need to go to the bathroom... NOPE ain't gotta pee right now,,,
*Note* At my age I had long hair, tattered, ripped and patched jeans...and maybe a slight attitude... *I'll give Dad that* But I was just gettin what I could be gettin from the Officers Daughters.. I was doing GREAT...
Well I go escorted into the Latrine by Dad and he wailed on me, pissed him off that I was old enough to block most of his punches... He tired, I tired... He tossed me back into the Cell...I looked at the Squid in the other Cell with a bruised eye and said... "They said yer next".. he frikken broke down.
But with all that said my Dad was the best and we laffed at this for the longest afterwards... fond memories.
Years later Dad asked me how I knew how to block crap like that...
I miss my Dad.
Mac
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Originally posted by Rino
I just feel all warm and fuzzy that the judge decided we needed to pay
these guys millions...sigh, lawyers suck..period.
Damn right the Govenment should pay millions for what they did.
Personally I think it shoudl have been more.
They stole these guys lives.
And in two of the cases they died in prison.
How can you put a just price on that?
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Originally posted by Maverick
Since this situation happened well before the patriot act was conceived I don't see the connection. Could you clarify how the patriot act was involved?
I'm glad to see that they were exonerated, albeit too late for 2 of them. It also seems that one of the agents also died in custody, I didn't see any info on how many agents were involved or if they are still alive.
The award would have greater impact if it were to come from the agencies funds rather than general tax revenues for the govt. but I doubt that will happen.
It wasnt in volved
But the connection is simple.
If they can do that without the patriot act. Imagine what the clowns in government can do with it in place.
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Do you really think a "what if" was necessary here? Like you said, it wasn't involved.
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
then a year after their sentence is carried out find out they were innocent and the families sue the government and the media riding the government for years after?...
When was the last time a lawsuit was filed and successfully prosecuted on behalf of a dead, innocent inmate?
I would be interested in knowing.
shamus
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Originally posted by AWMac
Curval did you ever recover your Moped that was stolen?
Mac
Holy **** Curval, you were right!
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Holy **** Curval, you were right!
What? What????
Noooo not me...
I don't even own bolt cutters..
opps dammm...
Besides who would want to steal a Pink Moped anyways?
:huh
Mac
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I realize this is rocket science for most of you, but government money
comes from the people..ie you and I. I know it's liberal dogma to
dogpile the government on every possible opportunity, but my money is
being awarded willy nilly for a decision I never made.
I know nothing about this case, nor do I care. I do think the amount
awarded is excessive, especially as I feel absolutely no guilt for the
mistake. If this offends you...too bad.
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So asking for accountability is liberal dogma, Glad we got that cleared up.
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Originally posted by Rino
I realize this is rocket science for most of you, but government money
comes from the people..ie you and I. I know it's liberal dogma to
dogpile the government on every possible opportunity, but my money is
being awarded willy nilly for a decision I never made.
I know nothing about this case, nor do I care. I do think the amount
awarded is excessive, especially as I feel absolutely no guilt for the
mistake. If this offends you...too bad.
your money gets awarded willy nilly for decisions you never made every day.
As often as not poor ones at that.
Why arent you complaining about those?
And btw its not YOUR money. its OUR money.
Unless of course you shelled out all 101mil all by yourself.
Personally Im glad for the award.
Should have been more. Alot more
Its nice to see OUR money going for something just for a change
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hell... I know where government money comes from and I say that I would rather it went to wars and lawsuits than to grow the government and add social programs...
If the government went broke they might have to cut back spending.
I would rather 1,000 wrongfully jailed Americans sue the government than one new social program be started.
rather a thousand victims of a police state sue than one illegal alien get housing food and schooling and be able to "press two for espanol".
lazs