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Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: DaddyAck on July 28, 2007, 04:15:56 AM
HTC staffers,

The popular consensus is that you guys are making it a D and G model.  which is fine, but my question is this.  Will it also if it is a D model have the retractable ventral turret? or just the one dorsal turret?  I know in subsequent versions of the 25 the retractable turret was done away with in favor of the waist and tail guns, but since this is looking like the D and G will it have the ventral turret? I am not criticizing or being spiteful, I am thankful for the new plane, just curious and would appreciate any reply from y'all.

Thanks in advance.

DaddyAck
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: SkyRock on July 28, 2007, 04:23:29 AM
the ventral turret will be planted up your ***, and the dorsal turret will be planted, further up your ***!  Other than that, I haven't a clue about  turret placement!:aok
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: VWE on July 28, 2007, 04:28:33 AM
I like it just the way it is... a slower B26 without tail guns.  :rofl
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: Raptor on July 28, 2007, 10:50:13 AM
They had trouble with the B24's retractable turret so I believe they will leave any retractable turrets in the "down" position.
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: Enduro on July 28, 2007, 11:31:14 AM
You guys are lame for not voting for the Vader.  It's a bomber AND a fighter.


(http://www.commemorativeairforce.org/gallery/acgallery/fullsize/A-26_fs.jpg)


No WW2 sim should go this long without the Invader.  :(
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: Bronk on July 28, 2007, 11:31:58 AM
Ted is that you?:huh
:D

Bronk
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: Enduro on July 28, 2007, 11:33:59 AM
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Originally posted by Bronk
Ted is that you?:huh
:D

Bronk


:lol   No.  Ted isn't the only smart one around here.  ;)
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: VWE on July 28, 2007, 12:14:29 PM
Just fly the mossie around at 75% throttle, change the sound pack to round engines and imagine your in an invader...
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: Krusty on July 28, 2007, 05:07:09 PM
From what I recall the lower turret was even removed on B versions. I doubt it would still be in use in C/D versions. It was not an ideal emplacement.
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: Guppy35 on July 28, 2007, 06:27:24 PM
They got rid of it most of the time.  It just didn't work.
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 28, 2007, 06:50:47 PM
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Originally posted by Enduro
You guys are lame for not voting for the Vader.  It's a bomber AND a fighter.




No, it's just a bomber that is outclassed as a fighter against most mid-war planes and all late war planes.  However, like the Havoc, you can get lucky and catch the odd newbie or unaware fighter pilot.  But go against an experienced fighter pilot and the A-26 is toast, no matter the skill level of the 'vader driver.


ack-ack
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: DaddyAck on July 29, 2007, 01:02:22 AM
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Originally posted by Krusty
From what I recall the lower turret was even removed on B versions. I doubt it would still be in use in C/D versions. It was not an ideal emplacement.


The D still had it stock, if it was removed it was removed in the field.  As far as the failure rate of it in real life, if the rest of the guns and turrets in AHII do not suffer mechanical failure I see no reason for the retractable turert to suffer mechanical failure.  The periscope may have made real life pilots have a time of shooting it, but Im sure the toon pilots will be able to fire them just fine as we do not get air sick.
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: Enduro on July 29, 2007, 01:09:18 AM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
No, it's just a bomber that is outclassed as a fighter against most mid-war planes and all late war planes.  However, like the Havoc, you can get lucky and catch the odd newbie or unaware fighter pilot.  But go against an experienced fighter pilot and the A-26 is toast, no matter the skill level of the 'vader driver.


ack-ack


I didn't say it's a GREAT fighter.  But, lose the eggs and the Vader was said to be quite nimble for a plane of its size.  Sure, the LGay 7's and Spitooys will always have the advantage in AH over it.  But, who cares...I'd just love to take my chances against anything with all those guns at my fingertips.

I enjoyed the Vader in all versions of AW.  Would really like having it here (finally).  :)
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: mike786 on July 29, 2007, 01:09:24 AM
i saw the video clip from waffle and it does have a big gun turret on it like a tank turret. weather its what ur talking about i hav no clue but its looking good. thanks HTC for a kick A** new bomber >>S<<
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: DaddyAck on July 29, 2007, 01:26:04 AM
Nope that is the 75 mm in the nose of the G, Im asking them if the 25D/G they APEAR to be making will have the retractable belly turret of 2 X .50
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: PanzerIV on July 29, 2007, 10:59:03 AM
A26 seems like it would be a great addition the the AH aircraft inventory, although Axis could use a some heavy lifting bombers, but if we get another allied attack plane A26 should be at the top of the list.
But the 75mm cannon B25 sure looks like it will cause problems for tanks.
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: Squire on July 29, 2007, 12:05:03 PM
Im sure the A-26 was formidable in the cartoon-land EZ mode arenas of AirWarrior, which is where it gets its "fighter" rep from.

Pfft.

We don't need the A-26 any more than we need another jet.
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: Enduro on July 29, 2007, 12:23:19 PM
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Originally posted by Squire
Im sure the A-26 was formidable in the cartoon-land EZ mode arenas of AirWarrior, which is where it gets its "fighter" rep from.
 


All the more reason why it'd be nice to see what HTC does with the Vader.  

Thanks, but you're not changing my mind.  hehe
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: mike786 on July 29, 2007, 03:28:46 PM
the axis could use heavy bombers like the german ju-39 but the b-25 couldnt look better thanks a bunch for all your hard work HTC cya
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: Enduro on July 29, 2007, 04:19:16 PM
the damage IS looking a lot better.

(http://www1.hitechcreations.com/images/b25/b255.jpg)
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: Saxman on July 29, 2007, 04:56:21 PM
Historically, the A-26 managed a 1:1 kill/loss ratio in air-to-air combat.
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: tedrbr on July 29, 2007, 05:13:15 PM
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Originally posted by PanzerIV
But the 75mm cannon B25 sure looks like it will cause problems for tanks.

Might steal some kills with it from other GV'rs and folks dropping ord on the same tank.  If historical, you've got 21 rounds of 75mm HE rounds --- like those in the LTVA4 -- with a rate of fire of 4 or 5 rounds per minute -- say, on par with a T-34 in the game now, or a little worse?  Moving at up to 220 to 250mph on the deck at most.  

Considering I've seen Sherman gunners take out Hurri-D's and IL2's with their main gun in the game, I don't see this as a particular problem for tankers.


And yes, I agree, damage model is a great improvement.  So is seeing an entire crew manning stations.  In my system, at best I only see one at any station most of the time.  To see gunners, pilot, and co pilot is an improvement to immersion.
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 29, 2007, 05:53:48 PM
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Originally posted by Saxman
Historically, the A-26 managed a 1:1 kill/loss ratio in air-to-air combat.



Not a very good ratio.


ack-ack
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: Saxman on July 29, 2007, 08:38:55 PM
For a bomber vs fighters that's not too bad. Also, IIRC this is NOT the A-26s sitting in formation fending off attackers with their turrets/gunner.
Title: B25 Question Fer HTC
Post by: Masherbrum on July 29, 2007, 10:47:51 PM
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Originally posted by PanzerIV
But the 75mm cannon B25 sure looks like it will cause problems for tanks.
How, they are HE shells, NOT AP.:confused: