Aces High Bulletin Board

General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: SFRT - Frenchy on July 28, 2007, 06:18:23 PM

Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on July 28, 2007, 06:18:23 PM: Happy we are getting along :D
video (http://www.defense.gouv.fr/marine/base/mediatheque/videos/rafale_sur_uss_enterprise)

forum link with pictures (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=116910)
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: Viking on July 28, 2007, 06:22:08 PM: Pretty cool! :)
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: OOZ662 on July 28, 2007, 06:33:36 PM: See they had to practice a few times. :D
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on July 28, 2007, 06:38:01 PM: Yep, those American carriers are way too small for us.:p
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: Rino on July 28, 2007, 06:51:58 PM: They sure are gorgeous birds, no question.
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: Makarov9 on July 28, 2007, 07:22:11 PM: Kick bellybutton looking plane. Nice to see to cooperation.
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: FBplmmr on July 28, 2007, 07:53:09 PM: are they defecting?:D
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: OOZ662 on July 28, 2007, 08:38:04 PM: They're surrendering. :D
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: AKIron on July 28, 2007, 09:06:59 PM: Assuming form was an influence, it's satisfying when form and function come together. Cool looking plane. :aok
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: Angus on July 29, 2007, 06:03:50 AM: And specs on the Rafael?
Mach 2 and carrier aircraft? Strike, defence or multi role?
Looks utterly cool.
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: Chairboy on July 29, 2007, 06:21:41 AM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Rafale
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: Nilsen on July 29, 2007, 06:52:46 AM: Ive always loved the looks of the Rafales. Not bad specs either! :)
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: Elfie on July 29, 2007, 07:40:58 AM: The Rafale is a cool looking plane although I do like the looks of the Su-37 far better. :)
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: Irwink! on July 29, 2007, 10:47:35 AM: Quote
Originally posted by OOZ662
They're surrendering. :D

:rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: evenhaim on July 29, 2007, 11:53:46 AM: its amazing that they were capatable with the uss enterprises catapult system i though french carriers used ramps or are thes british carriers
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: Nilsen on July 29, 2007, 11:58:35 AM: Quote
Originally posted by evenhaim
its amazing that they were capatable with the uss enterprises catapult system i though french carriers used ramps or are thes british carriers

british, thai, spanish, italian, russian and indian (soon) cvs use ramps. French use regular catapults
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: VooWho on July 29, 2007, 12:06:57 PM: I've always woundered if the French ever used our CVs for operations. Pretty cool to see that.

Now I would love to see a Su-37 land on one of our CVs, but I don't think we could catapult it off :(

Now for an F-18 to land on the DeGaul!
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: evenhaim on July 29, 2007, 12:12:22 PM: cc thnx nilsen:aok
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: Rollins on July 29, 2007, 12:31:10 PM: Great looking plane! And Angus, how could you miss that one-don't you mean udderly cool? :rofl
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: Shifty on July 29, 2007, 12:36:04 PM: Cool stuff, thanks for posting it.
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: Maverick on July 29, 2007, 02:25:18 PM: Nice looking bird. Isn't it getting a bit long in the tooth at this point?
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: Viking on July 29, 2007, 03:25:11 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Maverick
Nice looking bird. Isn't it getting a bit long in the tooth at this point?

Huh? It entered service a couple of years ago.
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: VooWho on July 29, 2007, 04:11:34 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Maverick
Nice looking bird. Isn't it getting a bit long in the tooth at this point?

Your thinking of the Dassault Etendard/ Super Etendard.
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: wooley on July 29, 2007, 04:44:44 PM: Quote
Originally posted by evenhaim
its amazing that they were capatable with the uss enterprises catapult system i though french carriers used ramps or are thes british carriers

The Royal Navy currently operates 3 Invincible class carriers. This use ramps to launch Harrier GR7s.

Contracts have just been awarded to a consortium led by BAE and Thales to replace these with two new, larger ships operating the STOVL version of F35. These ships will initially have ramps but are being designed to allow conversion to catapult/arrest operations at a later date (i.e. when the F35 is retired).

There's an interesting article here (http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/show/nav.2226) about the new ships. Current expectations are that they'll be smalller than Nimitz class boats, but larger than the Charles de Gaulle. It also shows how small the Invincible boats are by comparison.
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: Viking on July 29, 2007, 05:20:43 PM: The Invincible class is more comparable to the USS Wasp class amphibious assault ships (that also carry a number of Harriers in addition to its helicopters). The Invincible is a "budget" carrier.
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: Maverick on July 29, 2007, 08:46:11 PM: Quote
Originally posted by VooWho
Your thinking of the Dassault Etendard/ Super Etendard.

Yup, my bad. :(
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on July 30, 2007, 09:47:26 AM: Quote
Originally posted by evenhaim
its amazing that they were capatable with the uss enterprises catapult system i though french carriers used ramps or are thes british carriers

Traditionaly the French carriers used to have a catapult but they attached a steel cable to the catapult/under wings for launch. The cable would then fly into the water.:huh

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Super-Etendard_1.jpg)

But on the new carrier, and I bet as a standardization process, they use the :

As a former catapult officer, I can attest how this would have generated a fair amount of interest from the air and flight-deck crews, if for nothing else than to be a break from the every-day monotony of launching flight operations. Having the French carrier Charles De Gaulle's catapult and arresting gear systems designed and installed by our NAVAIR guys and gals from Lakehurst, NJ helps in that the systems used by both French naval aircraft and our our aircraft are similar (if not almost identical).
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: Chairboy on July 30, 2007, 10:19:20 AM: Seems like that would make the planes lighter, no need to beef up the nose gear so much. But perhaps the recycle time between cat shoots is higher?
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: rpm on July 30, 2007, 12:13:47 PM: It's the same set-up used for the F-4 Phantom.
(http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h97000/h97718.jpg)
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on July 30, 2007, 05:11:28 PM: Thx RPM, I didn't know that.
Title: French Rafales landing on the USS Enterprise
Post by: Shuffler on July 30, 2007, 05:54:08 PM: The landing problem was probably caused by the carrier going in the wrong direction...... I read somewhere that the French aircraft launch off the stern so they can get home quicker.

:p