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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Treize69 on July 29, 2007, 07:05:08 PM
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With the current "turnout" for Der Grosse Schlag (those who have committed, and chosen a ride and been assigned to a unit), we are so short of P-51 drivers that a unit (the 353rd) has been disbanded, and its slots assigned to the P-38s (an extra squadron for the 474th) and P-47s (the 78th has been activated).
The P-38s are full with nearly a dozen alternates, and the P-47s are rapidly filling too. Meanwhile we have yet to fill ONE P-51 squad- the closest being the 4th with 8 or 9 of its allotted 16 currently filled.
Now I know there are more than 15 P-51 drivers in this game, we need to get moving!
At this rate the scenario will be redesigned to March 1944 instead of November in order to justify only having 1 P-51 Group active.
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Originally posted by Treize69
With the current "turnout" for Der Grosse Schlag (those who have committed, and chosen a ride and been assigned to a unit), we are so short of P-51 drivers that a unit (the 353rd) has been disbanded, and its slots assigned to the P-38s (an extra squadron for the 474th) and P-47s (the 78th has been activated).
Err... I'm a bit puzzled... registration isn't even up for that event, but there is already a "turnout", you are short in pilots and you are reorganizing units???
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WOOT i would like to be in a P51 please.:aok :aok
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We're trying to figure out numbers and preferences based on those committed and interested, and so far the P-38 drivers alone have expressed about 5x as much interest as the P-51 guys, and the P-47 drivers had their 16 filled within about 48 hours.
Meanwhile, we don't have enough committed P-51s to fill 1 unit, let alone 5 of them.
OFFICIAL registration might not be open, but when you're trying to establish how many you have so you can figure out SLs, FLs, etc its discouraging to have so few give a positive "yes".
We've also had several who express interest and then back out or disappear completely.
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I'll fly a D stang.
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Well, I usually do not deal with a scenario until registration is up. I will then read the setup & rules, make my choices and do register. Until that, I do not bother myself reading all that threads. I can imagine many players do the same thing.
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Originally posted by Lusche
Well, I usually do not deal with a scenario until registration is up. I will then read the setup & rules, make my choices and do register. Until that, I do not bother myself reading all that threads. I can imagine many players do the same thing.
Yep as far as I'm concerned it's not an official event until registrations open.
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Put me on the p-51 list
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This should be a good one....
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Short, re-organizing for an event that begins in 2 and a half months, that isn't even open for registration yet?
That's laughable.
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Originally posted by MORAY37
Short, re-organizing for an event that begins in 2 and a half months, that isn't even open for registration yet?
That's laughable.
We want to let it build a bit and get folks working together and enjoying the history.
If that's a bad thing, I'm guilty :)
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Yes, lord forbid anything in this game be organised before everyone shows up on the day of the scenario with 200 people asking
"What am I flying? Where do I take off from? Who am I with? Whos my wingman? Whats the mission? Do I have to go here? Do have to fly this high? Can I fly with so-and-so? Whens the takeoff? Will there be snipers?"
I forgot, everyone in this game prefers massive FUBARs to actually having any semblance of a plan.
How dare I.
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:cry lol trieze
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Open the registration for crips sake! If guys are already assigning slots, squadrons being placed, etc, registration is basically open anyway. So officially open it and get it organized right from the get go.
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Originally posted by Treize69
With the current "turnout" for Der Grosse Schlag (those who have committed, and chosen a ride and been assigned to a unit), we are so short of P-51 drivers that a unit (the 353rd) has been disbanded, and its slots assigned to the P-38s (an extra squadron for the 474th) and P-47s (the 78th has been activated).
Sounds like alot of fun, would love to play, love the p51b or d, im on the east coast and i work saturdays, 3pm start time kills all these things for me, same as friday nights 11pm starts, why can't these things be on sunday afternoons or sat nights.
I realize its all a matter of time zones, but thats why i can't, otherwise i would.
http://www.freewebs.com/yanksfan001/
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Registration will officially open August 1st.
If the teams want to, and have been, aggressively recruiting players that want to form up early they have my full support.
I would much prefer an event filled with players who are aggressive in team building over one filled with last minute slot filling and then we don't see them until 10 min before frame 1.
If that is the type of player you are, feel free to do just that. But for crying out loud get off the backs of those who want to do it differently.
get it organized right from the get go
Please explain to me a better way.
We have the rules. The COs are in place. The schedule is in place. The teams are pre-building with Energy and Enthusiasm far in advance of the registration start date. Leadership spots have been filled with self starting people, who have made it clear to anyone that listens that they are Not concerned with the planes and rules, but have full confidence that they can handle Anything thrown at them and will deal with Any difficulties that comes their way.
Is there some flaw in this plan that has been missed?
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Preorganising is fine, so is filling the leader positions with energetic and commited people.
But thinking about reorganising the event, even changing the time frame because not enough pony drivers registered before registration is even up is rather strange...
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The y arent going to change the time frame, thats called "sarcasm".
You, of all people, should know better than that. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Treize69
The y arent going to change the time frame, thats called "sarcasm".
You, of all people, should know better than that.
I make use of smileys every time I am being not serious, for I know the inherent problems of pure written communications (especially on a board with a lot of non-native english speakers).
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I was being angry sarcastic, smileys dont convey that. :p
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Originally posted by Treize69
I was being angry sarcastic, smileys dont convey that. :p
Well, I guess that's one for the Wishlist then :)
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I think we'd better be Clear about sarcasm lol :D
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I'd fly a pony.
It will depend on the time/date of the frames though. I haven't been able to make an event, other than an occasional KOTH, yet.
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those who have committed, and chosen a ride and been assigned to a unit
so you got units already assigned in chosen rides and have a commitment from the players, what happens when u open the registration up to the rest?
if the units are already assigned, then it seems it will be slim pickings to get a chance to fly what you want to fly.......
I have flown alot of scenarios, but to make a post like this in public just may shun some people away from the event.....if they read it the way I have
pre assigned/determined P38 groups before registration opens
pre assigned/determined P-47 groups
pre assigned / determined P-51 groups........
whats left?
I want to be a gunner!!!
I want to be a buff pilot!!!
I want to fly the goon!!!
just need some clarification, Roc / Treize.........
the way he typed it out in the opening post is kind of saying hey, we are hand picking and filling spots before registration is opened to the public.....
I know this is not how he meant to come across, but that is how it reads...
just saying...
might be able to pull a group of Damned together to fill a P-51 unit....that is when the official registration is opened up ;)
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I think that the P51 will be the most popular ride once registration opens up. I think Treize is just freaking out a bit :P
The fact that there ARE so many P51s means folks are not in a rush. The restricted #s of P47s and P38s means the folks that want these rides are all rushing to get in before they're full. That is the only reason they are filled before the P51s. Don't worry, the ponies will have pilots, too!
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The word was for those of us in GL postions to spread the word and lets see if we can start nailing down folks who will commit to flying this thing
So we went for it full blast. One of the Joys of SAPP is I have tons of P38 pilots involved so when I got the 474th I put the word out and guys are willing to commit.
I know the 109 and 190 guys as well as the Jug and 51 guys are actively recruiting people.
I don't think it's a bad thing. When registration opens there are that many more bodies who want in beyond the folks we've been trying to recruit, we can expand the numbers to get them in.
One of the concerns I think as the lack of attendence in previous scenarios so getting a jump on it with folks you can count on is a way to try and head off a lack of participation.
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Squaddie of mine, "Trog" is interested in flying a P-51. I don't know if he's commited, or wants to find out who he can wing with, or what, but send him a PM and see what can be set up.
P.S. Trog if you see this, you're welcome :aok
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This seems a little strange. The main AH Events page says registration is not open and the dates aren't even confirmed.
Happen to read this thread, and not only are the dates confirmed, but registration is open and some squadrons are full?
I can see what you are trying to do, but those of us who don't read many general discussion threads on the BBS and want to take part, might not have a fair crack at this one.
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There's far more room left open than there is "full"... I think perhaps just the way people are describing it is getting out of hand. The actual registration page won't be up til this Wednesday (I think), but if somebody has command of "squadron X" flying "plane Y" then they'd get some folks they know like that plane, invite them to that squad, get commanders, XOs, and 'regular pilots' in place so that the roster's built. Then when they sign up the CO doesn't have any problems placing them -- they've already been placed by their squadron commander.
It's much simpler than folks think. Several folks have been confused about this "pre-registration" stuff... It just means making an agreement on where you'll be placed ahead of time. I think the whole thing needs a new PR campain because it's confusing folks more than it ought .:D
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I just think the intentions behind this idea should have been communicated along with the announcement of the event. I guess it is a point to note for next time.:)
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those who have committed, and chosen a ride and been assigned to a unit
...I, for one, amd absolutely certain I deserve to be committed....
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Originally posted by Simaril
...I, for one, amd absolutely certain I deserve to be committed....
Me too...
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Nothing new there, Guppy.
:aok
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Originally posted by ROC
Registration will officially open August 1st.
If the teams want to, and have been, aggressively recruiting players that want to form up early they have my full support.
I would much prefer an event filled with players who are aggressive in team building over one filled with last minute slot filling and then we don't see them until 10 min before frame 1.
If that is the type of player you are, feel free to do just that. But for crying out loud get off the backs of those who want to do it differently.
Please explain to me a better way.
We have the rules. The COs are in place. The schedule is in place. The teams are pre-building with Energy and Enthusiasm far in advance of the registration start date. Leadership spots have been filled with self starting people, who have made it clear to anyone that listens that they are Not concerned with the planes and rules, but have full confidence that they can handle Anything thrown at them and will deal with Any difficulties that comes their way.
Is there some flaw in this plan that has been missed?
It just doesn't make sense to me to announce an event, but not open up registration, and then come to the forums and complain that guys aren't signing up for it. I also can't see how, come August 1st, if I sign up for an event scheduled for the fall, that's considered last minute?
I guess the question I would have is why not open up the official registration when the event is announced? It would prevent a lot of confusion. But whatever, it was early in the morning and I hadn't had my caffeine yet, it was just one of who things that you read and go "what the heck". I didn't mean to offend anyone.
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Originally posted by Lusche
Preorganising is fine, so is filling the leader positions with energetic and commited people.
But thinking about reorganising the event, even changing the time frame because not enough pony drivers registered before registration is even up is rather strange...
I re-iterate and stand with Lusche. Aggressive pursuit of pilots great... but re-organizing you basic squad structure before most people even know there will be another event, is quasi-sensationalism. I appreciate enthusiasm, yet, making it sound desperate and sensational before registration is even open....
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Could it be we're just having fun?
The 38 and 47 GLs have been tweaking the 51 GLs a bit which got the Spam can guys a bit energized. And folks are into this for some reason which is kinda fun.
How bout we keep going with the fun and get 400 people in this thing and fill the skies with LW and USAAF birds all trying to stay alive while blasting each other out of the sky.
Fun, good people, playful competition and a general sense of respect for what we're trying to do and the people who are participating?
Just a thought. I'm having a ton of fun already and we're 2 months away. :)
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Treize, in for a 51D. Check your PM's