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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: lasse on July 30, 2007, 02:27:36 AM

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Post by: lasse on July 30, 2007, 02:27:36 AM

HE 111

I believe this is the most obvious plane that is missing from the Aces High planeset.

After all it was used in huge numbers in all theaters the Germans were fighting in.

So with the arrival of B25.( Witch is excellent in my eyes), I really hope that Hitech and crew finally makes the HE 111.

( It would be great to have the Condor to, in the German planeset, but the HE 111 is way more important.)

I know this is not the first request for this plane, but I take the liberty to ask for it again ;-)

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Post by: OOZ662 on July 30, 2007, 05:28:44 AM

The He111 was not voted for nearly as much as the B25. Therefor, we get a B25.

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Post by: Masherbrum on July 30, 2007, 06:45:11 AM

only Axis planes we need are the Ki-100 and I.A.R. 81c.

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Post by: Nilsen on July 30, 2007, 07:26:12 AM

Im all for the 111, and im pretty sure that we will get it eventually. :)

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Post by: storch on July 30, 2007, 08:25:44 AM

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
only Axis planes we need are the Ki-100 and I.A.R. 81c.

and the Fiat G55

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Post by: Krusty on July 30, 2007, 09:50:21 AM

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
only Axis planes we need are the Ki-100 and I.A.R. 81c.

We have the Ki61. It's identical in almost every way to the Ki100. Just pretend the engine sounds are different and you're set.

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Post by: detch01 on July 30, 2007, 09:59:07 AM

The He-111 was one of the group of aircraft voted on. IRRC the vote wasn't on which one we'd get, but which one we'd get first. :aok



Cheers,
asw

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Post by: Masherbrum on July 30, 2007, 10:52:41 AM

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Originally posted by Krusty
We have the Ki61. It's identical in almost every way to the Ki100. Just pretend the engine sounds are different and you're set.

Different engine, you getting rusty on the "know-it-all's" Krusty.    Pick up the pace.

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Post by: Krusty on July 30, 2007, 10:54:04 AM

Yes, different engine, but 99.9% identical performance across the board. Hence my comment "imagine different engine sounds"....

The Ki100 was no better than the Ki61, in regards to performance. There were minor changes but nothing noteworthy. It was more a stop-gap, desperate "get any plane in the air" conversion

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Post by: Masherbrum on July 30, 2007, 10:59:14 AM

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Originally posted by Krusty
Yes, different engine, but 99.9% identical performance across the board. Hence my comment "imagine different engine sounds"....

The Ki100 was no better than the Ki61, in regards to performance. There were minor changes but nothing noteworthy. It was more a stop-gap, desperate "get any plane in the air" conversion

Actually it was a high altitude plane that turned better, climbed better.   So more than "just a slight difference".

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Post by: Krusty on July 30, 2007, 11:02:03 AM

Nope. Look it up again. It had *slightly* better climb at alt, but only because of a *slight* weight decrease.

It's climb rate was a small % increased over the 61, but nothing phenominal. The radial was no better than other contemporary japanese radials (nothing especially "high alt" about it) and the top speed was nearly identical to the Ki61.


It's been discussed ad nauseum in the wishlists forum, many times over many years.

EDIT: I did a quick search.

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Originally posted by Widewing
I also agree with you that the Ki-61 negates the need for the Ki-100. The biggest difference between the two was simplicity of engine management and increased reliability of the radial engine. However, in AH2 our engine management is already as simple as it gets and engine reliability is not modeled.

The only advantages associated with the Ki-100 may be improved rearward vision and no radiator to leak coolant. Countering that is increased drag and reduced vision over the nose.