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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: ink on July 30, 2007, 01:26:20 PM
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im wondering
do you guys/gals truly believe that the towers were done by those we have been told it was done by?
me i DONT believe it.
does that make me unamerican?
building #7 fell four hours after the towers,
the owner admits to "pulling" that building. due to fire damage?
that is the biggest load of crap,
how many of you knew that building #7 fell that day?
lots of people i talk to had no idea that another building fell that day
do research find the truth if you want to know the truth its out there to be had.
TRUTH... IF SOMEONE DOESNT BELIEVE THE TRUTH DOES IT BECOME A LIE?
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There is NO WAY in Hell the Towers were brought down by the United States Govt. That is completely asinine.
As for Building 7. If you fail to understand the amount of force of which those two towers FELL, and cause "structural damage" to the surrounding buildings, then I cannot help but feel bad for you.
Oh, and it wasn't a missile that hit the Pentagon.
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It doesn't make you un-American. It just forces me to lump you into the looney bin with the rest of the nutjobs. Welcome to the BBS, just don't forget your tin hat.
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Un-American, no. Uneducated. Further proof of the complete failure of what passes for the American Education System.
Structural damage is not always immediate. 4 hours or 4 days, doesn't matter when a structure has been compromised. Ever hear the noises of your house "settling"? Consider that in a large and compromised structure. Add to that all the heavy equipment being moved INTO that area following the collapse and the vibration effect of heavy equipment being used to search and extricate survivors.
If building #7 was intentionally dropped (I don't remember anything like that though from that day), it was probably because it posed a threat to workers on the rest of the pile in the area and could not be properly shored up (too big a structure to do that with anyways under those circumstances). I know they were pulling people off the pile again and again for safety reasons throughout the recovery effort due to safety concerns for the rescuers (Rule #1, the safety of the rescuers comes first, otherwise you wind up with even more people needing rescued, and fewer people to do it with, and delays the rescue of the first victims even longer).
I'm sure you can follow some other conspiracy theories out there that are harder to so easily discount than any about the Towers on 9/11.
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It was moonbats.
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Originally posted by tedrbr
Un-American, no. Uneducated. Further proof of the complete failure of what passes for the American Education System.
Structural damage is not always immediate. 4 hours or 4 days, doesn't matter when a structure has been compromised. Ever hear the noises of your house "settling"? Consider that in a large and compromised structure. Add to that all the heavy equipment being moved INTO that area following the collapse and the vibration effect of heavy equipment being used to search and extricate survivors.
If building #7 was intentionally dropped (I don't remember anything like that though from that day), it was probably because it posed a threat to workers on the rest of the pile in the area and could not be properly shored up (too big a structure to do that with anyways under those circumstances). I know they were pulling people off the pile again and again for safety reasons throughout the recovery effort due to safety concerns for the rescuers (Rule #1, the safety of the rescuers comes first, otherwise you wind up with even more people needing rescued, and fewer people to do it with, and delays the rescue of the first victims even longer).
I'm sure you can follow some other conspiracy theories out there that are harder to so easily discount than any about the Towers on 9/11.
Yup, plus depending on how the building was reinforced, it would either collapse immediately, or slowly. Building engineers can control this to whichever effect they wish.
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It must burn you up, knowing that's where your tax dollars went to.
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Originally posted by Furball
It was moonbats.
Did it look like this?
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Holy **** that's creepy looking...
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big oil did it so they could steal all of the iraq oil.:rolleyes:
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The world is most definitely "not" round... it's FLAT.
The truth is definitely out there to prove it too.
TRUTH.....IF SOMEONE DOESN'T BELIEVE THE TRUTH, DOES THAT MEAN I SHOULD PUT MY TINFOIL HAT ON AND WAIT FOR THE ALIENS?
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Originally posted by ink
im wondering
do you guys/gals truly believe that the towers were done by those we have been told it was done by?
me i DONT believe it.
does that make me unamerican?
building #7 fell four hours after the towers,
the owner admits to "pulling" that building. due to fire damage?
that is the biggest load of crap,
how many of you knew that building #7 fell that day?
lots of people i talk to had no idea that another building fell that day
do research find the truth if you want to know the truth its out there to be had.
TRUTH... IF SOMEONE DOESNT BELIEVE THE TRUTH DOES IT BECOME A LIE?
I suppose you see black helicopters flying around your house and men in black suits watching your every move as well. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
There is NO WAY in Hell the Towers were brought down by the United States Govt. That is completely asinine.
The United States DOD has, in the past, drawn up plans for "simulated or real terrorism and violence on US soil....blamed on Cuba.." to justify war against Castro.
Sound familiar? terrorism on US soil to justify war against a boogie man?
I have no idea who was responsible for 9/11, but it can't be denied that the (republicans & democrats) people who run this country could be responsible.
Operation Northwoods
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
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My favorite is "Operation Dirty Trick", truly disturbing.. but a reminder our .gov will stoop to any low... Dirty Trick was a plot to blame Castro if the Mercury manned space flight crashed... nice huh?
"The objective is to provide irrevocable proof that, should the MERCURY manned orbit flight fail, the fault lies with the Communists et al Cuba [sic]." It continues, "This to be accomplished by manufacturing various pieces of evidence which would prove electronic interference on the part of the Cubans."
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the world is flat, i have a national geographic map of the world to prove it, the map lays flat on the floor.
the national geographic is an unimpeachable source.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin-foil_hat
I've got mine, do YOU have yours? :aok
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That's what I love about America. You can be as looney as you want. And you still get to vote!
Don't forget: The Moon landings were faked too.
-Sik
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FYI
the tinfoil actually improves the reception of the alien transmissions.
thats why we used to put it on the rabbit ears of our TV(well, to improve local broadcasts, not intergalactic)
and thats why the aliens convince the abducties to wear the hats .. very diabolical they are.
something is out there all right:lol
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Originally posted by x0847Marine
The United States DOD has, in the past, drawn up plans for "simulated or real terrorism and violence on US soil....blamed on Cuba.." to justify war against Castro.
Sound familiar? terrorism on US soil to justify war against a boogie man?
I have no idea who was responsible for 9/11, but it can't be denied that the (republicans & democrats) people who run this country could be responsible.
Operation Northwoods
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
Edit:
My favorite is "Operation Dirty Trick", truly disturbing.. but a reminder our .gov will stoop to any low... Dirty Trick was a plot to blame Castro if the Mercury manned space flight crashed... nice huh?
"The objective is to provide irrevocable proof that, should the MERCURY manned orbit flight fail, the fault lies with the Communists et al Cuba [sic]." It continues, "This to be accomplished by manufacturing various pieces of evidence which would prove electronic interference on the part of the Cubans."
Being that your from Kalifornia, I can understand you believing that.
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Originally posted by x0847Marine
The United States DOD has, in the past, drawn up plans for "simulated or real terrorism and violence on US soil....blamed on Cuba.." to justify war against Castro.
Sound familiar? terrorism on US soil to justify war against a boogie man?
I have no idea who was responsible for 9/11, but it can't be denied that the (republicans & democrats) people who run this country could be responsible.
Operation Northwoods
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
Edit:
My favorite is "Operation Dirty Trick", truly disturbing.. but a reminder our .gov will stoop to any low... Dirty Trick was a plot to blame Castro if the Mercury manned space flight crashed... nice huh?
"The objective is to provide irrevocable proof that, should the MERCURY manned orbit flight fail, the fault lies with the Communists et al Cuba [sic]." It continues, "This to be accomplished by manufacturing various pieces of evidence which would prove electronic interference on the part of the Cubans."
Yeah, did you get that from that Loose Change movie where they featured that story. That may have existed but that Loose Change movie is terribly flawed. In an early revision to it they were comparing damage of a "B-52 that struck the Empire State Building in 1946"
Yup, B-52's.....looks like they did their homework. Something as simple as that :huh
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unamerican... no
gullible..... yes
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Originally posted by Tango
Being that your from Kalifornia, I can understand you believing that.
:aok :rofl
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what's a contry?
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Originally posted by Dichotomy
what's a contry?
nonono, the quote is "What A Country!"
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-Sik
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
It doesn't make you un-American. It just forces me to lump you into the looney bin with the rest of the nutjobs. Welcome to the BBS, just don't forget your tin hat.
Ok, this one is funny......I don't care who you are....
I laughed out loud.
Mickey
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If you don't believe that conspiracy can happen, you have to watch this compelling documentary:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saHs6J0OXVI
Unfastened Coins: The Titanic Conspiracy
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Originally posted by Chairboy
If you don't believe that conspiracy can happen, you have to watch this compelling documentary:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saHs6J0OXVI
Unfastened Coins: The Titanic Conspiracy
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I sure hope that lad is now in treatment. And that someone has restocked his medicine cabinet for him......
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Originally posted by Chairboy
If you don't believe that conspiracy can happen, you have to watch this compelling documentary:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saHs6J0OXVI
Unfastened Coins: The Titanic Conspiracy
Ah yes, if Youtube says its true it must be. :rolleyes:
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Hey guy. Get some education. Do some research.
Remember the real bridge at Remagen? Strictly rhetorical question to you, of course.
"The Ludendorff Railroad Bridge at Remagen, between Koblenz and Bonn, was captured intact by troops of the U.S. 9th Armored Division on March 7, 1945. Armored infantry fought their way across the bridge under intense enemy fire as the Germans attempted to destroy it with demolition charges. Several explosions damaged part of the bridge, but the main charges failed to fire and the bridge remained standing."
"On March 17, 1945, the Ludendorff, severely damaged in the fighting ten days earlier and weakened further from the strain of heavy traffic, collapsed into the Rhine. Having crossed the Rhine, the Allied armies prepared to drive into the interior of Germany."
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10006180
:lol
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9/11 was a FALSE FLAG OPERATION, just ask my old friend Alex Jones! Wake up people! Do some research and don't believe what the media tells you to believe. Goggle "911 Mysteries", and then tell me what you think.
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Originally posted by tedrbr
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I sure hope that lad is now in treatment. And that someone has restocked his medicine cabinet for him......
He sounds about just right for the O'Club!
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Wether 9/11 was what it was portrayed as or not, the absolute refusal to even contemplate the possibility that you are not being told the whole truth by your leaders displayed by some members of this bbs is disturbing to say the least.
And you guys have the hide to say the commies are brainwashed.
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Tango, Tedbr, I'm guessing you didn't visit the link. Silly users.
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He He Oh and I saw where they say there were charges put in certain spots to help the building fall.....hmmmm Um nope that was the glass blowing out from the static presser as the building fell. You are American if you don't believe but If you come to Texas don't cross my path and tell me that you don't believe it was done by the terrorist. :mad: :furious :aok
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Originally posted by Tango
Being that your from Kalifornia, I can understand you believing that.
So you think Operation Northwoods is a hoax? look it up, ABC news broke the story, and you can look at the actual documents yourself. It's well documented, and yes I believe it to be accurate.
ABC news:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662
USA Today:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2002-08-29-usat-opin-bamford_x.htm
Declassified documents in PDF:
http://www.retakingamerica.com/files/northwoods_documents.pdf
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yawn... this topic again..
http://www.debunking911.com/ (http://www.debunking911.com/)
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Im still watching the Chemtrails.
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Originally posted by x0847Marine
So you think Operation Northwoods is a hoax? look it up, ABC news broke the story, and you can look at the actual documents yourself. It's well documented, and yes I believe it to be accurate.
ABC news:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662
USA Today:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2002-08-29-usat-opin-bamford_x.htm
Declassified documents in PDF:
http://www.retakingamerica.com/files/northwoods_documents.pdf
If the US was looking for an excuse to go to war with Cuba and was willing to make up a story to do it they had the perfect chance to do so when Kennedy was assasinated.
The thing I find interesting is all you guys that seem to forget that Saddam was constantly shooting at our planes flying over the no-fly zone in Iraq. That was more than enough reason to finish the war IF that is what Bush wanted to do. Instead he acted on info that the WHOLE WORLD had been given that the Iraqis were trying to get a nuke.
Apparently you would rather have Saddam still in power. Its a good thing you weren't around in '41. You wouldn't have considered Hitler a threat to the world.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Tango, Tedbr, I'm guessing you didn't visit the link. Silly users.
ice cubes in bathtub. steel is stronger than ice.... yeah.
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So... then, you're not familiar with the concept of satire I take it. It's making fun of Loose Change and the other wacked out moonbat "documentaries". It applies the same "scientific" method to the Titanic sinking as the 'Truthers' apply to the 9/11 attacks.
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Insane?
Umm you no the U.S. goverment MOST likleydid it on puispose as a reason to start a war? They didnt want to go in there just for oil.
and the pentagon had a hole 4x smaller than a plane so explin how that happend
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George Bush sent hurricane Katrina to New Orleans as well.
:noid
NOT
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he he ok Ill explin or explain how that happen. The Pentagon is a military structure that is made to withstand blast and attacks. it is made up of a series of layers that help the building take a impact.
The World Trade buildings wasn't meant to take a "high impact" like say a rocket or a mad man like Chairboy flying a plane around NYC LOL I don't think he would be flying into buildings though LOL Chairboy. Anyways The World Trade Centers were not military buildings so they wasn't built to specs to take hi impact.
RED25
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All of you conspiracy theories have been completely debunked.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html
But I am not so naive to think this will change you minds.
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Ink....with all due respect...you are an idiot!!:O Oh by the way.... what kinda drugs are you on??? What kind of mental institution did you escape from?? Do you have an eight grade education?? Is you IQ under 20 or 10?
What a slap in the face of all Americans when people like you make insane comments like that.......Please leave our country with your friends(Rosi Cindy Al and Jessie)Dont come back!!!
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You guys punted an old one. Check out the dates (I'll admit not that old, but it was one foot in the grave, anyway).
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Dear sweet baby Jesus.
Consipiracy Theories abundant here. WAKE UP... Loose change or whatever it was called is crap. I wasted perfectly good time wacthing and had a nice laugh.
I also love the we invaded Iraq to get their oil.... then where is it and why has the price of gas went up?
No wonder our companies export jobs overseas... these brainiacs are their employees if they stay domestic.
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Originally posted by Tiger
I wasted perfectly good time wacthing and had a nice laugh.
If you got a laugh, it wasn't really time wasted was it?
-Sik
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I think that basic spelling skills should be a requirement for anyone attempting to debunk global conspiracies.
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Originally posted by ink me i DONT believe it.
does that make me unamerican?
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No. You're still an American if you are a citizen.
Tinfoil Boy, but an American Tinfoil Boy.
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Originally posted by Bopboys coo
Insane?
Umm you no the U.S. goverment MOST likleydid it on puispose as a reason to start a war? They didnt want to go in there just for oil.
and the pentagon had a hole 4x smaller than a plane so explin how that happend
"English **********er, do you speak it?!!!?"
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You shouldnt be ashamed by your beliefs... Most Americans think that it was Iraqi people who flew into the Twin Towers, when infact it was Saudi citizens.
Most Americans on this BBS believed that there were WMDs in Iraq at the point they invaded Iraq.
So you are entitled to your beliefs.
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Originally posted by Maniac
You shouldnt be ashamed by your beliefs... Most Americans think that it was Iraqi people who flew into the Twin Towers, when infact it was Saudi citizens.
Most Americans on this BBS believed that there were WMDs in Iraq at the point they invaded Iraq.
So you are entitled to your beliefs.
uuummmmm Muslems??
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Muslems had nothing to do with it either.
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Originally posted by Maniac
You shouldnt be ashamed by your beliefs... Most Americans think that it was Iraqi people who flew into the Twin Towers, when infact it was Saudi citizens.
Most Americans on this BBS believed that there were WMDs in Iraq at the point they invaded Iraq.
So you are entitled to your beliefs.
No one ever said he wasn't lol, derr.
We are entitled to make fun of him for his beliefs though, just like you are for the people you hold in contempt.
Thats what makes freedom great.
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Excellent troll Ink, and excellent trolling technique. Not a single followup post after the deluge began.
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Originally posted by ink
im wondering
do you guys/gals truly believe that the towers were done by those we have been told it was done by?
me i DONT believe it.
does that make me unamerican?
building #7 fell four hours after the towers,
the owner admits to "pulling" that building. due to fire damage?
that is the biggest load of crap,
how many of you knew that building #7 fell that day?
lots of people i talk to had no idea that another building fell that day
do research find the truth if you want to know the truth its out there to be had.
TRUTH... IF SOMEONE DOESNT BELIEVE THE TRUTH DOES IT BECOME A LIE?
WTC 7 Collapse
CLAIM: Seven hours after the two towers fell, the 47-story WTC 7 collapsed. According to 911review.org: "The video clearly shows that it was not a collapse subsequent to a fire, but rather a controlled demolition: amongst the Internet investigators, the jury is in on this one."
FACT: Many conspiracy theorists point to FEMA's preliminary report, which said there was relatively light damage to WTC 7 prior to its collapse. With the benefit of more time and resources, NIST researchers now support the working hypothesis that WTC 7 was far more compromised by falling debris than the FEMA report indicated. "The most important thing we found was that there was, in fact, physical damage to the south face of building 7," NIST's Sunder tells PM. "On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom--approximately 10 stories--about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out." NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7's upper stories and its southwest corner.
NIST investigators believe a combination of intense fire and severe structural damage contributed to the collapse, though assigning the exact proportion requires more research. But NIST's analysis suggests the fall of WTC 7 was an example of "progressive collapse," a process in which the failure of parts of a structure ultimately creates strains that cause the entire building to come down. Videos of the fall of WTC 7 show cracks, or "kinks," in the building's facade just before the two penthouses disappeared into the structure, one after the other. The entire building fell in on itself, with the slumping east side of the structure pulling down the west side in a diagonal collapse.
According to NIST, there was one primary reason for the building's failure: In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. "What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors," Sunder notes, "it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down."
There are two other possible contributing factors still under investigation: First, trusses on the fifth and seventh floors were designed to transfer loads from one set of columns to another. With columns on the south face apparently damaged, high stresses would likely have been communicated to columns on the building's other faces, thereby exceeding their load-bearing capacities.
Second, a fifth-floor fire burned for up to 7 hours. "There was no firefighting in WTC 7," Sunder says. Investigators believe the fire was fed by tanks of diesel fuel that many tenants used to run emergency generators. Most tanks throughout the building were fairly small, but a generator on the fifth floor was connected to a large tank in the basement via a pressurized line. Says Sunder: "Our current working hypothesis is that this pressurized line was supplying fuel [to the fire] for a long period of time."
WTC 7 might have withstood the physical damage it received, or the fire that burned for hours, but those combined factors--along with the building's unusual construction--were enough to set off the chain-reaction collapse.
Source (http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=5)
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Bopboys coo
Insane?
Umm you no the U.S. goverment MOST likleydid it on puispose as a reason to start a war? They didnt want to go in there just for oil.
and the pentagon had a hole 4x smaller than a plane so explin how that happend
Big Plane, Small Holes
CLAIM: Two holes were visible in the Pentagon immediately after the attack: a 75-ft.-wide entry hole in the building's exterior wall, and a 16-ft.-wide hole in Ring C, the Pentagon's middle ring. Conspiracy theorists claim both holes are far too small to have been made by a Boeing 757. "How does a plane 125 ft. wide and 155 ft. long fit into a hole which is only 16 ft. across?" asks reopen911.org, a Web site "dedicated to discovering the bottom line truth to what really occurred on September 11, 2001."
The truth is of even less importance to French author Thierry Meyssan, whose baseless assertions are fodder for even mainstream European and Middle Eastern media. In his book The Big Lie, Meyssan concludes that the Pentagon was struck by a satellite-guided missile--part of an elaborate U.S. military coup. "This attack," he writes, "could only be committed by United States military personnel against other U.S. military personnel."
FACT: When American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon's exterior wall, Ring E, it created a hole approximately 75 ft. wide, according to the ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report. The exterior facade collapsed about 20 minutes after impact, but ASCE based its measurements of the original hole on the number of first-floor support columns that were destroyed or damaged. Computer simulations confirmed the findings.
Why wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."
The tidy hole in Ring C was 12 ft. wide--not 16 ft. ASCE concludes it was made by the jet's landing gear, not by the fuselage.
(http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/0305911-pentagon-SM.jpg)
HOLE TRUTH: Flight 77's landing gear punched a 12-ft. hole into the Pentagon's Ring C. PHOTOGRAPH BY DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
Intact Windows
CLAIM: Many Pentagon windows remained in one piece--even those just above the point of impact from the Boeing 757 passenger plane. Pentagonstrike.co.uk, an online animation widely circulated in the United States and Europe, claims that photographs showing "intact windows" directly above the crash site prove "a missile" or "a craft much smaller than a 757" struck the Pentagon.
FACT: Some windows near the impact area did indeed survive the crash. But that's what the windows were supposed to do--they're blast-resistant.
"A blast-resistant window must be designed to resist a force significantly higher than a hurricane that's hitting instantaneously," says Ken Hays, executive vice president of Masonry Arts, the Bessemer, Ala., company that designed, manufactured and installed the Pentagon windows. Some were knocked out of the walls by the crash and the outer ring's later collapse. "They were not designed to receive wracking seismic force," Hays notes. "They were designed to take in inward pressure from a blast event, which apparently they did: [Before the collapse] the blinds were still stacked neatly behind the window glass."
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AFTERMATH: Wreckage from Flight 77 on the Pentagon's lawn--proof that a passenger plane, not a missile, hit the building. PHOTOGRAPH BY AP/WIDE WORLD PHOTOS Flight 77 Debris
CLAIM: Conspiracy theorists insist there was no plane wreckage at the Pentagon. "In reality, a Boeing 757 was never found," claims pentagonstrike.co.uk, which asks the question, "What hit the Pentagon on 9/11?"
FACT: Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"
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Here is the account of someone who actually saw the plane hitting the Pentagon...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycPUDktZpCU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycPUDktZpCU)
http://www.debunking911.com (http://www.debunking911.com)
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ok! listen up fellas! the government had a hand in killing JFK,Dr.King, and the Monroe chick, as well as captured a flying disc in Roswell N.M.! So I have no reason to believe that the federals did NOT blow up the twin towers. The A rabs that flew the planes were double ott spies working for Bush and the Skull and Bones society. On the orders of the free Masons ofcource. Jeez how dumb are you guys.
In tomorrows lesson, we'll discuss the daughter of Jesus and how some knight dudes are hiding her in a old barn close to V12 in the early war arena.
Dismissed class!:rolleyes:
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Come now Uptown, it wasn't arabs in those planes, they were remote controlled and the passengers are being used now for biological weapons experiments by an unknown black ops group in the US gov't that not even the president knows about. Kennedy found out and see what that got him.:rofl
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ok! listen up fellas! the government had a hand in killing JFK,Dr.King, and the Monroe chick, as well as captured a flying disc in Roswell N.M.! So I have no reason to believe that the federals did NOT blow up the twin towers. The A rabs that flew the planes were double ott spies working for Bush and the Skull and Bones society. On the orders of the free Masons ofcource. Jeez how dumb are you guys.
by uptown
now why do you have to bring the Free Masons into this. They have really nothing to do with the government.
Now I know my country didnt take out the WTC's But all the other crack heads out there that think Big Brother is out to get them do.
RED
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don't forget the Illuminati and the blunderburgers.
:noid
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disregard Free Masons reference and insert Blunderburgers in it's place:noid
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disregard Free Masons reference and insert Blunderburgers in it's place
LOL thanks LOL
RED
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Originally posted by NOT
George Bush sent hurricane Katrina to New Orleans as well.
But big Lou (Farrakhan) did say the .gov blew the levies. So Bush did have a hand in it.
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i guess i am insane then
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No, just gullible.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Tango
Being that your from Kalifornia, I can understand you believing that.
Just to let you know, not all of us in the Peoples Republik are that gullible.