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Title: one pilot?
Post by: jhookt on August 07, 2007, 12:41:42 PM

that's a purty cockpit if ya ask me



clicky (http://www1.hitechcreations.com/images/b25/b25h4.jpg)

Title: one pilot?
Post by: Guppy35 on August 07, 2007, 12:43:17 PM

25H only had one pilot.  The guys in the 345th BG who flew them low level didn't like the 25H for that reason as if something happened, there was no back up.

They ended up passing on their 25Hs and going back to 25Gs that had 2 pilots.

Title: one pilot?
Post by: 5PointOh on August 07, 2007, 01:41:50 PM

Ah time to stir the kiddies up...

Look it can take off from carriers too

(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/5/52/Doolittle_b-25.jpg)

(http://www.interet-general.info/IMG/ww2-258.jpg)


:rofl :rofl

Title: one pilot?
Post by: PanzerIV on August 07, 2007, 01:46:37 PM

Beh Beh Beh BEN AFFLECK!!!!!
:rofl

Title: one pilot?
Post by: Guppy35 on August 07, 2007, 01:54:30 PM

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Originally posted by 5PointOh
Ah time to stir the kiddies up...

Look it can take off from carriers too

(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/5/52/Doolittle_b-25.jpg)

(http://www.interet-general.info/IMG/ww2-258.jpg)


:rofl :rofl

Too bad we don't have a B25B and of course I'm fine with the carrier take off as long as it's programed in that you lose the aircraft after every flight like the Doolittle Raiders did.

Title: one pilot?
Post by: Krusty on August 07, 2007, 01:57:05 PM

Guppy, knowing the suicide porkers that would roll it, that's not a problem... :rolleyes:


P.S. Didn't they also ditch the -Gs in favor of -Js at the earliest opportunity?

Title: one pilot?
Post by: 5PointOh on August 07, 2007, 01:57:09 PM

Prox kills for all horray!

Title: one pilot?
Post by: Guppy35 on August 07, 2007, 02:07:56 PM

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Originally posted by Krusty
Guppy, knowing the suicide porkers that would roll it, that's not a problem... :rolleyes:


P.S. Didn't they also ditch the -Gs in favor of -Js at the earliest opportunity?

The 5th AF didn't like the cannon.  They ended up more often then not replacing it with 2 50s in the tunnel.

So yes the solid nose J was preferred once it became available.  Gun nose kits were sent out to them as well from the factory and they sliced off the glass noses of 25J-11s and put on the gun noses.  There are numerous pictures of OD B25s with NMF gun noses that had been retrofitted.

There was even one B25D that this was done too so you have the unusual and one of a kind B25D-3  "Dirty Dora II" that is an all silver B25D with a J strafer 8 gun nose on it.  It was still flying operational missions until the end of the war.

Title: one pilot?
Post by: humble on August 07, 2007, 02:19:05 PM

I'll be curious how the B-25 stacks up to the A-20 performance wise as a "fighter":)

I think i'd prefer the 8 gun nose as well, but truthfully nothing survives the 6 x .50 in the A-20 if they happen to fly in front of it very often.

Title: one pilot?
Post by: Krusty on August 07, 2007, 02:20:54 PM

A20 flies far too lightly for my tastes.


Going off how the B-25 felt in WB, it will be a dog. More like the -26 than the -20, in terms of responsiveness and agility.

Title: one pilot?
Post by: Softail on August 07, 2007, 10:16:02 PM

I'm all for letting the 25's take off of carriers.  As long as you do the following to them:

Remove of the lower gun turret
Install de-icers and anti-icers
Remove Steel blast plates mounted on the fuselage around the upper turret
Remove of the liaison radio set
Install three addition fuel tanks and support mounts in the bomb bay, crawl way and lower turret area to increase fuel capacity from 646 to 1,141 U.S. gallons
Place Mock gun barrels installed in the tail cone
Replace the Norden bombsights with a makeshift aiming sight.

Then you can fly that gasoline can  anywhere you want in the MA.  Should blow up very nicely ;-)

Softail

Title: one pilot?
Post by: DaddyAck on August 08, 2007, 12:58:30 AM

Why does everyone keep talking about CV launching these birds?  Its not nice to tempt the Noobs into a squeaking frenzy. :rofl


Or is it....
:noid

Title: one pilot?
Post by: Rino on August 08, 2007, 01:01:06 AM

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Originally posted by DaddyAck
Why does everyone keep talking about CV launching these birds?  Its not nice to tempt the Noobs into a squeaking frenzy. :rofl


Or is it....
:noid

To Quote Alka Seltzer:

Plop, Plop..Fizz,Fizz...Oh what a relief it is! :D

Title: one pilot?
Post by: Stoney74 on August 08, 2007, 02:16:41 AM

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Originally posted by Guppy35
25H only had one pilot.  The guys in the 345th BG who flew them low level didn't like the 25H for that reason as if something happened, there was no back up.

They ended up passing on their 25Hs and going back to 25Gs that had 2 pilots.

Hey Dan,

Can't speak for the USAAC aircrew, but the USMC H squadron flew with co-pilots.  Even though there wasn't a second set of controls, there was a second seat, and the co-pilot manned the ranging controls for the radar slaved to the 75mm gun during attack runs...

For whatever its worth...