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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Muskie6 on August 08, 2007, 09:29:29 AM
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I did a search on the subject, but didn't have much success.
What is the caliber of the manned ack (soft gun)?
I had always assumed that it was a 37mm round.
I am assuming that it is a HE round.
There is a huge diffirence between the manned ack and the Ostwind gun, a few pings from the manned ack will take out a panzer, but you can shoot a panzer all day with the Ostie gun, and be lucky to get a track.
Thanks for any responses
Muskie6
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The mannable is also a 37mm gun, however I believe it has a much longer barrel and higher muzzle velocity.
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field gun is better, easier reticle, u cant "die", it doesnt move.
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Osti is a AA gun, i believe it is HE, but might be HE/AP mix.
the Field gun is a AA/Anti GV gun. it is API i think.
both are 37mm.
whels
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Don't forget that the Osti suffers from a small randomization of the aim point (i.e. the rounds do not always go exactly where you aim). The ground gun does not suffer from this. So, if you spray 20 rounds from an Osti at a tank D800 away, a fair number are going to miss. From a ground gun, likely all 20 will hit. More hits = more lethality.
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if they are both 37mm then why does the ostie fire faster than the soft-gun battery?:confused:
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Different shells do different things. Why don't the 12.7mm on the German planes have the kick-awesomeness of the .50 cal? They're the "same size."
It all depends on the round and the gun.
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they're not 12.7 they're 13mm :)
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Originally posted by Pannono
field gun is better, easier reticle, u cant "die", it doesnt move.
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hey:lol
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LOL that was quick.
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Originally posted by OOZ662
Different shells do different things. Why don't the 12.7mm on the German planes have the kick-awesomeness of the .50 cal? They're the "same size."
It all depends on the round and the gun.
id say that the 13mm on german planes are just as good as the 12,7 american.. the speed of the projectile is lower but the hitting power is imo better.
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They were larger diameter, but lesser hitting power. Less charge, less kinetic energy.
However, the 13mm MG131 was a mixed belt cannon ammo. It had explosive 13mm rounds belted in with tracer, incendiary, and solid, or whatever they had in there.
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Originally posted by Mexicana MXA
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Originally posted by Muskie6
I did a search on the subject, but didn't have much success.
What is the caliber of the manned ack (soft gun)?
I had always assumed that it was a 37mm round.
I am assuming that it is a HE round.
There is a huge diffirence between the manned ack and the Ostwind gun, a few pings from the manned ack will take out a panzer, but you can shoot a panzer all day with the Ostie gun, and be lucky to get a track.
Thanks for any responses
Muskie6
Though the game shows that the manned ack is a 37mm....I am sure as heck looks like a 40mm M1 Bofors, just a bad error in the labeling. The only 37mm Bofors is mostly an anti-tank gun.
BTW, if they have changed the manned ack model again while I was gone for the past couple months, sorry.
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I have NO ISSUES of going back and forth between FG's and Ostie's. I don't even zoom in, but rarely. I just know approx. leads through practice.
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Originally posted by Willfly
Though the game shows that the manned ack is a 37mm....I am sure as heck looks like a 40mm M1 Bofors, just a bad error in the labeling. The only 37mm Bofors is mostly an anti-tank gun.
BTW, if they have changed the manned ack model again while I was gone for the past couple months, sorry.
Now that you mention it . . . did they upgrade the manned acks from 37mm to 40mm when they upgraded all the field ack?
I vaguely remember the upgrade being mentioned, but my brain might be lying to me.
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Originally posted by E25280
Now that you mention it . . . did they upgrade the manned acks from 37mm to 40mm when they upgraded all the field ack?
I vaguely remember the upgrade being mentioned, but my brain might be lying to me.
I may be misunderstanding you but only the model of the gun was changed from a 3.7mm FlaK 36 to a M1 40mm Bofors but the labeling was NOT changed.
(http://www.lonesentry.com/manuals/german_aa/pics/gaaf9.jpg)
3.7mm FlaK 36 (Original Manned Ack gun used in AH)
(http://users.skynet.be/jeeper/Bofors1.jpg)
40mm M1 Bofors (Upgraded manned ack)(Incorrectly labeled as 37mm)
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Any truth to the rumor about putting the Ost in neutral gear will improve your aim?
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Originally posted by Bownen
Any truth to the rumor about putting the Ost in neutral gear will improve your aim?
The tanks will rock a lot slower if you are stopped, with your engine off, but still in gear. (BTW, this is NOT a good thing.) I doubt the Osti is any exception.
The best thing to do, though, is stop, shut your engine off, and put it in neutral. Whether it improves accuracy -- I can't really say. But it what it WILL do is allow you to hear where the planes are coming from, since their engine sounds will not be drowned out by your own.
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Putting our tanks in neutral is the equivalent of a tank crew prepping the tank with balancers and readying to fire, as I've heard. But yes, tanks will roll much less when firing in neutral.