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Title: P-47J please
Post by: Uriel on August 10, 2007, 01:58:44 AM
The XP-47J began as a November 1942 request to Republic for a high-performance version of the Thunderbolt using a lighter airframe and an uprated engine with water injection and fan cooling. Kartveli designed an aircraft fitted with a tight-cowled Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57(C) with a war emergency rating of 2,800 horsepower (2,090 kW), reduced armament of six 0.50 inch (12.7 mm) machine guns, a new and lighter wing, and many other changes. The first and only XP-47J was first flown in late November 1943. When fitted with a GE CH-5 turbosupercharger, the XP-47J achieved a top speed of 440 knots (505 mph, 813 km/h) in level flight in August 1944, making it one of the fastest piston engine fighters ever built. However, by that time Republic had moved on to a new concept, the XP-72.
Title: P-47J please
Post by: C(Sea)Bass on August 10, 2007, 02:23:50 AM
it won't be added, it never saw combat, p47N barely made it in time for combat. also pre-production/experimentle planes dont belong in this game.
Title: P-47J please
Post by: Masherbrum on August 10, 2007, 06:01:27 AM
can I cut and paste from Wiki too?   Another Jug, no thank you.
Title: P-47J please
Post by: moneyguy on August 10, 2007, 06:27:49 AM
just fly the F4U-4
Title: P-47J please
Post by: Spikes on August 10, 2007, 09:07:11 AM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
can I cut and paste from Wiki too?



:lol :lol
Title: P-47J please
Post by: Uriel on August 10, 2007, 12:10:43 PM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
can I cut and paste from Wiki too?   Another Jug, no thank you.


 So I did so what.. Im sorry but even the old p47 D had 2,300 hp and a kill ratio that does not match its performance in this game.. they handy capped the Jug IMO. A jug could almost match a 109 in climb in real life, well I checked the game charts.. not so, a jug could take much more damage then they seem to in this game, and had an armored cockpit that was great protection from the pilot.. and I get pilot wounds all the time.. if they are not going to make a new one they should unhandy cap it.. even if it means that a jug requires perks.
Title: P-47J please
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 10, 2007, 12:45:33 PM
If you feel that the flight model on the P-47 is in error then please post some sources that will back up your claim.

Just because you feel the Jug doesn't perform how you saw it in the Dogfight episode on the History Channel doesn't mean the FM in the game is incorrect.  


ack-ack
Title: P-47J please
Post by: Karnak on August 10, 2007, 03:04:02 PM
Check out Gabreski's comment about the P-47 and the Spitfire.
Title: P-47J please
Post by: Blooz on August 10, 2007, 03:36:08 PM
You seem to forget too that by 1944 the Luftwaffe was on its last legs. Outnumbered heavily in fighters with most of their seasoned pilots dead.

It's not just the planes. It's the odds they were up against too.
Title: P-47J please
Post by: Masherbrum on August 10, 2007, 04:27:01 PM
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Originally posted by Uriel
So I did so what.. Im sorry but even the old p47 D had 2,300 hp and a kill ratio that does not match its performance in this game.. they handy capped the Jug IMO. A jug could almost match a 109 in climb in real life, well I checked the game charts.. not so, a jug could take much more damage then they seem to in this game, and had an armored cockpit that was great protection from the pilot.. and I get pilot wounds all the time.. if they are not going to make a new one they should unhandy cap it.. even if it means that a jug requires perks.
So what?   I think that A LOT of the Community would agree that "more Axis planes" would be more beneficial to the game at this time.    Both for Scenarios and Everyday Gameplay.  

Ki-45
Ki-43
G4M
He-111
IAR 81c
G.55

I'm sorry but a 4th Jug is pointless at this time.    There simply is NO NEED for it.
Title: P-47J please
Post by: evenhaim on August 10, 2007, 04:51:18 PM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum


I'm sorry but a 4th Jug is pointless at this time.    There simply is NO NEED for it.


you mean a 5th jug :p
Title: P-47J please
Post by: Masherbrum on August 10, 2007, 05:03:18 PM
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Originally posted by evenhaim
you mean a 5th jug :p
Yep, my bad I forgot.   Absolutely no need.
Title: P-47J please
Post by: evenhaim on August 10, 2007, 05:11:03 PM
yep:rolleyes:
Title: P-47J please
Post by: Furball on August 10, 2007, 05:51:53 PM
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Originally posted by Uriel
So I did so what.. Im sorry but even the old p47 D had 2,300 hp and a kill ratio that does not match its performance in this game.. they handy capped the Jug IMO. A jug could almost match a 109 in climb in real life, well I checked the game charts.. not so, a jug could take much more damage then they seem to in this game, and had an armored cockpit that was great protection from the pilot.. and I get pilot wounds all the time.. if they are not going to make a new one they should unhandy cap it.. even if it means that a jug requires perks.


The jug is good, you just suck in it.

Your real argument is "waahhh i suck, make my favourite plane better so i can kill in it."

Please go away until you mature or figure out how to play the game.
Title: P-47J please
Post by: Masherbrum on August 10, 2007, 07:15:13 PM
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Originally posted by Furball
The jug is good, you just suck in it.

Your real argument is "waahhh i suck, make my favourite plane better so i can kill in it."

Please go away until you mature or figure out how to play the game.
Furry with the pwn! :)   Heyas M8!
Title: P-47J please
Post by: weazely on August 10, 2007, 09:26:24 PM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
can I cut and paste from Wiki too?   Another Jug, no thank you.



That was funny:rofl :lol :rofl
Title: P-47J please
Post by: SgtPappy on August 10, 2007, 09:51:28 PM
Since when does kill ratio 'match performance in-game' ... ?
Title: P-47J please
Post by: Kweassa on August 11, 2007, 03:31:55 AM
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So I did so what..


 So it means your source of information is limited, not to mention you're posting things without understanding the standing criteria for introducing new planes in this game... and yet, you refuse to acknowledge the fact and keep insisting some things which are a product of your own misinformation.

 In other words, it makes you look like an idiot.


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Im sorry but even the old p47 D had 2,300 hp..


 That "old" P-47D is the single most representative model that served almost the entire length of US intervention in the war in Europe. Compared to that, how many actual combat sorties did the XP-47J fly?

 That "X" in front of the "P-47J", should mean something. Take a wild guess what it means.


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... and a kill ratio that does not match its performance in this game..


 Maybe it's just because people who fly the P-47 in the game die a lot more than in real life because they fly the plane like idiots.


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they handy capped the Jug IMO.


 No.

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A jug could almost match a 109 in climb in real life, well I checked the game charts.. not so


 No.


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.. a jug could take much more damage then they seem to in this game


 No.


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.. and had an armored cockpit that was great protection from the pilot.


 Hell, no.



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and I get pilot wounds all the time..


 It's because you're being shot at all the time.

 I'll let you in on a little secret - good pilots don't spend a lot of time getting shot at. So, try not being shot at all the time, and then voila! Your pilot wounds will go away.

 

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if they are not going to make a new one they should unhandy cap it.. even if it means that a jug requires perks


 Or yet, a better idea.

 Why not spend some time practicing, and studying some trustworthy material concerning actual strengths and weaknesses of the plane, so you can spend time getting to be a better pilot? Instead of being shot down and wasting time blaming the game for your lack of skill?

 Oh it's not jug in AH that's handicapped, friend.

 It's your skill that's handicapped.
Title: P-47J please
Post by: DaddyAck on August 11, 2007, 05:02:17 AM
Either this guy is verry persistant or not soo strong in the smarts depatment....
this makes what 4 genious threads for him now about jug this and jug that, waahhhh I want a better jug cause I am sucking too hard to fly the one we have?:cry
Man Im telling you either this guy is fishing for responses or he really is that soft. :rolleyes:
Title: P-47J please
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 11, 2007, 05:12:46 AM
If it's a shade account trolling then the guy is definitely not up to par in the smarts department.  The purpose of a troll is to play a gag, a good example is the Mother of all Trolls the BK's did awhile back.  Only an idiot would troll by making themselves look like an utter and complete moron.


ack-ack
Title: P-47J please
Post by: Karnak on August 11, 2007, 04:58:51 PM
I don't think it is a shade account.  I think he is showing his honest self and I don't think we need to toss insults at him.
Title: P-47J please
Post by: Blooz on August 11, 2007, 05:57:29 PM
Can we throw library cards at him?
Title: P-47J please
Post by: Masherbrum on August 11, 2007, 06:11:42 PM
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Originally posted by Blooz
Can we throw library cards at him?
Just remember the harder you throw the card at em, the louder the squeak.