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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: crockett on August 11, 2007, 02:03:32 PM
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It seems the video or pictures they used to prove they put a flag on the bottom of the north pole ocean was juiced up a bit. Seems they stole video from the movie Titanic to do it. A 13 year old kid from Finland noticed it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/08/11/wrussia111.xml
silly Russians.. :lol
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:rofl
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Russia faces embarrassment over its flag planting expedition to the North Pole after claims that state broadcasters borrowed scenes from the movie Titanic to "beef-up" footage.
Television company Rossiya sent images of mini submarines descending to the ocean floor around the world in its report about the mission.
But a 13-year-old boy from Finland spotted the scenes in the national daily newspaper Ilta-Sanomat, and realised that they resembled images on his Titanic DVD.
He told the newspaper: "I checked it with my DVD and there it was right there in the beginning of the movie: exactly the same image of the submer-sibles approaching the ship."
Titanic, made by James Cameron and starring Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet, opens with pictures of divers inspecting the 1912 shipwreck.
The news programme is accused of merging real footage with the movie shots under the caption "northern Arctic Ocean", according to the Guardian.
It reported that Rossiya had refused to comment on the footage but said its Vesti news programme had originally been filmed using scale models in a studio.
The company is one of two state-controlled channels that have been turned into propaganda tools under President Vladimir Putin.
Scale models didn't work, let's try stealing video from the movie Titanic.
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<----------------Waiting for Boroda's post. Oughta be good.(Get's beer ready.)
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<-------grabs a Guinness out of an old ductaped styrofoam cooler, and sits in the lawn chair.
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Let's see if we can get the kid to look at images from the Sea of Tranquility...
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"KEPtain, the movie 'Titanic' was actually written and produced in Russia, and was stolen by the Godless communists in Hollywood..."
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Not godless communists, silly. They'd say it was stolen by the "capitalist running dogs of the bourgeoisie profit machine".
I predict that Boroda will come in with a counter-shot about "And you're saying your 'wag the dog' government never inserted footage for dramatic purposes?" or something.
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Boroda has been sent to Siberia for crimes against the State.
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The USA actually thinks they made the movie Titanic, but the Soviets did it waaay before that.
:D
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Originally posted by VOR
The USA actually thinks they made the movie Titanic, but the Soviets did it waaay before that.
:D
And they've made a few sequels too:
In total over the past 14 years three Russian nuclear submarines built by the Rubin design bureau have sunk. The K-219 underwater strategic cruiser (project 667AU) sank near the Bermuda Islands on October 6, 1986 because of a fire in a missile silo: four people perished. The K-278 nuclear submarine (the Komsomolets) sank in the Norwegian Sea on April 7, 1989 because of a fire in the stern compartment which spread to other compartments: 42 people perished. The Kursk tragedy in the Barents Sea happened on August 12, 2000 due to unknown reasons followed by a fire and an explosion in the torpedo room: all 118 servicemen perished. Isn't this too much for one design bureau? Three up-to-date submarines and 164 servicemen have perished over 14 years!
No one can send a boat to the bottom better than the Russian Navy.
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What a country! In America, the news is about movies. In Soviet Russia, the movie IS the news!
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Originally posted by tedrbr
And they've made a few sequels too:
In total over the past 14 years three Russian nuclear submarines built by the Rubin design bureau have sunk. The K-219 underwater strategic cruiser (project 667AU) sank near the Bermuda Islands on October 6, 1986 because of a fire in a missile silo: four people perished. The K-278 nuclear submarine (the Komsomolets) sank in the Norwegian Sea on April 7, 1989 because of a fire in the stern compartment which spread to other compartments: 42 people perished. The Kursk tragedy in the Barents Sea happened on August 12, 2000 due to unknown reasons followed by a fire and an explosion in the torpedo room: all 118 servicemen perished. Isn't this too much for one design bureau? Three up-to-date submarines and 164 servicemen have perished over 14 years!
No one can send a boat to the bottom better than the Russian Navy. [/B]
Not to put a finer point on it: The Russians are not alone in being good at losing nuclear subs:
USS Thresher (SSN-593), 129 officers and crew lost.
USS Scorpion (SSN-589), 99 officers and crew lost.
Two subs and 228 servicemen.
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(http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/08/11/rgw_russia_wideweb__470x348,0.jpg)
It was 'spiced up' by news agency. It had nothing to do with officials from expedition.
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Not to put a finer point on it: The Russians are not alone in being good at losing nuclear subs:
USS Thresher (SSN-593), 129 officers and crew lost.
USS Scorpion (SSN-589), 99 officers and crew lost.
Two subs and 228 servicemen.
Ya, but the Russians do it better.
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True. At least they're better than you guys at something.
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Oh goodie, Russian propoganda is coming back, thank goodness (Dont we all miss the hits of the 80's?)
Let's hope Pravda makes it on all our local cable dials. The Daily Show might have some real competition for laughs! :)
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Let's not forget about the "Russian Annual Ejection Seat Demonstration."
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LOL Masher
True. There aren't many countries who can boast sending their pilots to the show in a high performance fighter jet, then home via commerical airliner :)
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Let's not forget about the "Russian Annual Ejection Seat Demonstration.
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8682/fighting0024vg0.gif) (http://imageshack.us)
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Originally posted by Russian
(http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/08/11/rgw_russia_wideweb__470x348,0.jpg)
It was 'spiced up' by news agency. It had nothing to do with officials from expedition.
Yes but it's a "state run" news agenacy.. a little diffrent than CNN.. probably more like Fox News.. :lol
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Ill respond for him.
We already know the responce anyway
"Capitlaist propoganda!"
:D
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It is quite clear that spies stole the Russian footage and used it in the Titanic film.
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I blame the Bolsheviks.
The only good Bolshevik is a dead Bolshevik!
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russian... It was "spiced up" by the russian news?
But baroda claims that russian news is the only truthful news out there. All the rest is western propoganda.
lazs
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:lol
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<------------Grabs a black coffee, still too early for beer
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Originally posted by lazs2
russian... It was "spiced up" by the russian news?
But baroda claims that russian news is the only truthful news out there. All the rest is western propoganda.
lazs
Only truthful news? Care to point when he actually said that?
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Boom.....good Bolshevik!
shamus
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So the ruskins planted a flag under it, big deal.
My nations going to put a toilet for santaclause to send the worlds christmas cookies & milk below the ice.
Enjoy THOSE submarines. :aok
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Originally posted by crockett
It seems the video or pictures they used to prove they put a flag on the bottom of the north pole ocean was juiced up a bit. Seems they stole video from the movie Titanic to do it. A 13 year old kid from Finland noticed it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/08/11/wrussia111.xml
silly Russians.. :lol
Funny.
They added some footage from Titanic mentioning it's where Mir probes were used before. I mean - saw this news programms myself, in my own native language, so I don't care about Finnish teenagers or Zimbabwian pensioneers.
Western coverage of Russian media is amazing.
Noone here ever said that putting a Tricolor on ocean bottom means it (bottom) belongs to Russia.
My best wishes to Western Russophobes: Please go **** yourself. You are incapable of doing anything like that, so keep barking. "Dogs bark, but the caravan keeps going".
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Originally posted by crockett
Yes but it's a "state run" news agenacy.. a little diffrent than CNN.. probably more like Fox News.. :lol
NTV a "state run" TV channel?!
Interesting news for me and their shareholders.
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Originally posted by Boroda
Noone here ever said that putting a Tricolor on ocean bottom means it (bottom) belongs to Russia.
Why did they plant the French flag?
btw, 'noone' is 2 words not one word.
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Originally posted by mentalguy
Ya, but the Russians do it better.
LOL we never got a nuclear sub "disappearing" like Scorpion for unknown reason. Komsomolets got most of it's crew saved. Last people leaving the ship got saved from 1.5km depth in a special rescue capsule. Anyone saved from any US sub deeper then 70m?
While vessels like Alvin got used in rescueing a hydrogen bomb near Palomares - our MIRs are used in scientific research and shooting Western movies. Maybe just because we don't drop H-bombs all around?...
Such a shame I missed this thread! :D
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
Why did they plant the French flag?
It's a Commercial Flag of the Russian civilian fleet since Alexander III. Now it's Russian State Flag. Take a Serbian Flag, turn it upside-down - and it's a Russian Flag. I don't expect you to know the colours of Russian Imperial Flag. Anyway - you probably only need to know the military Red Banner.
Originally posted by MiloMorai
btw, 'noone' is 2 words not one word.
Thanks for the correction, I thought it's like "anyone" or "someone". I promise to correct your Russian if i'll see any mistakes :D
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Originally posted by Boroda
LOL we never got a nuclear sub "disappearing" like Scorpion for unknown reason. Komsomolets got most of it's crew saved. Last people leaving the ship got saved from 1.5km depth in a special rescue capsule. Anyone saved from any US sub deeper then 70m?
While vessels like Alvin got used in rescueing a hydrogen bomb near Palomares - our MIRs are used in scientific research and shooting Western movies. Maybe just because we don't drop H-bombs all around?...
Such a shame I missed this thread! :D
1968. K129 sank in the Pacific. All crew died.
1969. Soviet November-class K8 sank off Spain. All crew died.
The loss of crew on Amercain subs comes no where close to the losses suffered by Soviet sub crews.
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Wasn't the gear used in the discovery of the Titanic orginally commisioned to recover top secret parts of that russian sub that sank in the pacific?
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Originally posted by Boroda
I don't expect you to know the colours of Russian Imperial Flag.
from top to bottom, white, blue, red.:D
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
1968. K129 sank in the Pacific. All crew died.
Diesel-electric sub.
Originally posted by MiloMorai
1969. Soviet November-class K8 sank off Spain. All crew died.
52 men died. Far from "all crew". It sank surrounded by support and rescue ships due to a fire.
Originally posted by MiloMorai
The loss of crew on Amercain subs comes no where close to the losses suffered by Soviet sub crews.
Define "nowhere close". Losses in American spaceship crews come nowhere near to the losses suffered by Soviet spaceships - true or false?
Sub crews - how far back in time are you going to go? I bet that Soviet sub loses in June-November 1941 were muuuch higher then American. Also Russian sub losses in 1914-1916 were probably higher then American, but I am not quite sure.
Back to the topic: do you have any means to sumberge to the ocean bottom at North Pole and take soil samples?
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Originally posted by Boroda
Losses in American spaceship crews come nowhere near to the losses suffered by Soviet spaceships - true or false?
How is that soviet space shuttle doing? Launced it yet?
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The USSR lost at least four nuclear submarines between 1960 and 1989, and may have lost nine altogether. There were also at least another eight cases (that seem obvious) where lethal levels of contamination or fires occurred on board a nuclear submarine.
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
from top to bottom, white, blue, red.:D
Wrong. I meant Imperial Flag. W-B-R was a commercial fleet Flag as I said. Imperial Flag was quite different, it was used in battle before 1917, unlike modern Tricolor.
Sorry I forgot to mention a Navy Flag in 1696-1917 and now. You simply have to know it: your J.P.Jones fought under that flag. This one you need to know as well as a Red Banner.
Not mentioning naval Battle Flags, stern Flags etc.
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Originally posted by Boroda
Diesel-electric sub.
With nuclear weapons
JP Jones was not one of my countryman.
…on 11 June 1858 for use as a civil flag. Under the influence of German counselors, the government based it on the livery colors of the imperial arms — black and golden yellow, the latter usually represented as orange. A white stripe was added at the bottom lest the flag be exactly the same as the one used by Austria, whose arms also featured a black eagle on gold. White, long a symbol of legitimist monarchies in Europe, was specifically attributed here to the cockades of Peter I and Catherine II. The black-orange-white flag was very unpopular, so much so that the government felt compelled on 7 May 1883 to recognize the white-blue-red as official for use on land during celebrations. Hence the flag intended for unrestricted use was rarely seen in prerevolutionary Russia, while the flag restricted to special occasions was in fact the most likely to be hoisted whenever private citizens wished to express their nationality by displaying a flag on land.
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Originally posted by LePaul
LOL Masher
True. There aren't many countries who can boast sending their pilots to the show in a high performance fighter jet, then home via commerical airliner :)
But damn if their ejection seats aren't sexy! I heard the Su-37's ejection seat out performs the F-22's.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
But damn if their ejection seats aren't sexy! I heard the Su-37's ejection seat out performs the F-22's.
ack-ack
Well practice does make perfection.
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Originally posted by lazs2
russian... It was "spiced up" by the russian news?
But baroda claims that russian news is the only truthful news out there. All the rest is western propoganda.
lazs
Someone has to tell the Russians this is how you "spice up" the news.
(http://fresh99.com/images/frenchnewsanchor/M-Theuriau-0154.jpg)
ack-ack
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Russia, **** YEAH!!!
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
With nuclear weapons
....as Americans told us. Anyway, burying Soviet sailors with military ceremony deserves respect. .
Originally posted by MiloMorai
JP Jones was not one of my countryman.
Really? So you admit that your national hero was a Russian Admiral?
Originally posted by MiloMorai
…on 11 June 1858 for use as a civil flag. Under the influence of German counselors, the government based it on the livery colors of the imperial arms — black and golden yellow, the latter usually represented as orange. A white stripe was added at the bottom lest the flag be exactly the same as the one used by Austria, whose arms also featured a black eagle on gold. White, long a symbol of legitimist monarchies in Europe, was specifically attributed here to the cockades of Peter I and Catherine II. The black-orange-white flag was very unpopular, so much so that the government felt compelled on 7 May 1883 to recognize the white-blue-red as official for use on land during celebrations. Hence the flag intended for unrestricted use was rarely seen in prerevolutionary Russia, while the flag restricted to special occasions was in fact the most likely to be hoisted whenever private citizens wished to express their nationality by displaying a flag on land.
Partially true.
WBR Tricolor was an official flag of a Volunteer's Fleet (If you understand what I mean).
Later it's most famous appearence was in the White Army, not quite nice - as a flag under that Whites performed mass-executions.
Also take a look on Russian Army battle flags from 1812.
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/cough
(http://www.buran.ru/images/jpg/bbur89.jpg)
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Someone has to tell the Russians this is how you "spice up" the news.
Buy yourself an NTV+ sat package so you'll be able to jerk off on Russian TV reportresses (Milo, how about my spelling? I'll appreciate any corrections!). You'll have to pay for what I see for free, yeah, I am a bloody commie :D
Is it a French girl? I had two French girls living at my place several years ago - you know, girls on TV or in the movies are quite different from real life :)
And we'll have Olympics in Sochi in 2014 :D
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Originally posted by Vulcan
/cough
This is a building my Father have built. He was in charge of all research on capital constuction there including launch facility and MIK that's probably at your photo. He was really surprised how they managed to collapse the roof.
Vulcan, I have posted this story many times here.
At least Buran flew and didn't kill anyone... Now we still have cheaper and more reliable delivery.
To All: So I suppose noone doubts that we possess the North Pole? Now it's 70 years since North Pole-1 drifting station!
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Originally posted by Boroda
At least Buran flew and didn't kill anyone... Now we still have cheaper and more reliable delivery.
To All: So I suppose noone (sic)doubts that we possess the North Pole? Now it's 70 years since North Pole-1 drifting station!
The south pole is then American. Americans have occupied the geographic South Pole continuously since November 1956.
Buran flew with no one on board. If it had landed vertically at high velocity it would not have killed the crew.
Soyuz has flown 98 times killing two crews.
2/98 = 2% vehicle failure rate
4 of about 300 cosmonauts.
That's about 1.3 % crew mortality
the Shuttle has flown 120 times, killing two crews.
2/120 = 1.6% vehicle failure rate
14 / 630 astronauts.
that's about 2.2 % crew mortality
So the shuttle system actually is safer per flight, it just kills more when it fails.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Buran flew with no one on board. If it had landed vertically at high velocity it would not have killed the crew.
Actually when Buran did do its ONE space mission there were no life support systems on board. So even if it landed properly it would've killed the crew :)
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I planted my flag in Uranus. Do I own it now?
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Originally posted by kamilyun
I planted my flag in Uranus. Do I own it now?
I don't thik so.
Am I talking to the deaf?... :(
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:rofl
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Originally posted by Boroda
Really? So you admit that your national hero was a Russian Admiral?
The country JP came from is not my country, so hard to be my national hero. :rolleyes: Says much about the Russian navy that they need an American. :eek:
Still spelling 'no one' incorrectly. :D
This is a building my Father have built. He was in charge of all research on capital constuction there including launch facility and MIK that's probably at your photo. He was really surprised how they managed to collapse the roof.
We are not surprised.:D
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Can a US sub take soil samples off the North Pole..
You ever hear of the NR-1..or is it the NR-2?
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March 18, 1980 - Fifty technicians die at Russia's Plesetsk Cosmodrome when a Vostok booster explodes while being fueled. The incident is reported only in 1989.
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Originally posted by BiGBMAW
Can a US sub take soil samples off the North Pole..
You ever hear of the NR-1..or is it the NR-2?
So why dou didn't? Try beating our data with yours. Oh, you didn't sign the UN Sea Convention!? What a pity! Bombing someone without UN approval is OK for you, so should our MIRs expect torpedos from US subs? :D
We proved your presence on the Moon by bringing Moon soil samples with our automatic landers, so it we know you are capable of bringing your samples from Polar ocean bottom - then you don't expect any fakes, don't you? :D
Anyway, US can't expect anything there, and I think we can arrange it with Canadians ;) Sane people can always come to an agreement.
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Originally posted by Boroda
I think we can arrange it with Canadians ;) Sane people can always come to an agreement.
Thanks Boroda.
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
March 18, 1980 - Fifty technicians die at Russia's Plesetsk Cosmodrome when a Vostok booster explodes while being fueled. The incident is reported only in 1989.
keep singing this mantras.
We have made 10 times more launches then the US. About 3000 satellites before 1991. And explosions happen.
Vostok launcher in 1980 - I probably have to check some sources.
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
Thanks Boroda.
You Canadian?!
Hehe in Australia people sometimes thought I am a Canadian :) Pale skin and a weird accent :)
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COSMOS DISASTER (1973)
By 1973, the launcher known today as Cosmos-3M was in use in Plesetsk for about six years. According to a post-USSR source, a routine launch was planned for 1:32 a.m. on June 26, 1973s. The preparation, however, run into trouble, when due to a sensor malfunction, the fuel tank was overfilled. The personnel drained part of the fuel and refueled the launcher. Apparently, at this point, the fuel tank developed a leak and 15 seconds before the liftoff, the launch sequence was automatically suspended. The launch was canceled and more than 40-member launch team tried to deactivate the vehicle. At 4:18 and 4:20 a.m. two crews of 13 people were dispatched to the launch pad. At 4:22 a.m. a dual explosion shook the complex, followed by the fire. Seven people were killed at the spot, 13 were injured, two of those later died in the hospital. No announcement about the tragedy was made at the time and its victims were buried in a mass grave in Mirny. A special memorial to the victims of the accident was dedicated in 1974.
VOSTOK DISASTER (1980)
On March 18, 1980, during the fueling of the Vostok-2M launcher with the Tselina satellite, while dozens of military technicians worked on the pad, the devastating explosion incinerated the rocket, killing 50 people. The victims of the tragedy were buried within limits of the town of Mirny, by the same memorial where nine people, who died in a 1973 Cosmos explosion found their final resting place. The official investigation of the cause of the disaster essentially blamed the ground personnel for breaking fire safety rules. However, for years to come the official conclusion was doubted by people familiar with the matter. According to the post-Cold War Russian source, the results of investigation were proved wrong, when on June 23, 1981, a similar disaster was miraculously averted at the last second in Plesetsk. The new investigation pinpointed a valve, made of materials, which on contact with hydrogen peroxide could cause explosive chain reaction. Not until the end of the 1980's an outside world could learn about both accidents.
Unlike many space launch facilities in the World, both Baikonur and Plesetsk are not directly situated on or near a coast. Consequently, the lower, sub-orbital stages of USSR/CIS boosters normally fall back on former Soviet territory. This situation limits the permissible launch azimuths to avoid impacts near populated or foreign regions, e.g., due east launches (the most advantageous) from Baikonur are forbidden since lower rocket stages would fall on Chinese territory. For those launch corridors which are used, tens othousands of tons of spent boosters, many with toxic residual propellants still on board, now litter the countryside. Steps are underway around both Baikonur and Plesetsk to mitigate the situation, but the problem remains monumental.
Baikonur Cosmodrome, Kazakhstan
Before the successful start of Yuryi Gagarin, on October 24, 1960 a big explosion of the rocket took place on one of the grounds. Up to 100 people were found dead.
On June 16-19, 1963 another rocker explosion took place on October, 24 1963. 7 people were found dead.
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Milochka, should I post some reports on Western launch explosions? Back in the 80s they showed at least one launch vehicle explosion at Canaveral or Vandenberg a month. Looked like every third Delta or Atlas was set up as a firework.
Again: we made 3-4 launches a week, and explosions happen. When you make 2-3 launches a month and still get a ****up every month - you'd better shut up and listen while big men teach you.
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Originally posted by Boroda
keep singing this mantras.
We have made 10 times more launches then the US. About 3000 satellites before 1991.
What happened to all of them?
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The United States has 413 satellites in space snooping for the government, checking on the weather and relaying the latest pop music, a new database says. That's more than the 382 the rest of the world has spinning above the Earth.
The inventory, developed by the Union of Concerned Scientists and released Wednesday, provides details on some of the Pentagon's most secret satellites, which may gather images in the dark or take high-resolution pictures from 12,000 miles away.
''Until now, the general public didn't have easy access to information about all active satellites,'' said Dr. Laura Grego, a Cambridge astrophysicist who was on a team that spent several years compiling information on the nearly 800 active satellites. ''No one owns space, so everyone has a right to know what's up there.''
The material was gleaned from corporations, academics, governments and satellite watchers who as a hobby spend their nights watching the skies for flickers of light.
The group's inventory lists 21 different details on satellites with missions ranging from weather forecasting to transmitting music and news for companies like Sirius Satellite Radio. Perhaps most controversially, the repository includes what's known about top-secret spy satellites run by the U.S. and other governments.
With 413, the United States far exceeds other nations in numbers of satellites, often used for communications. The Russians, who follow the U.S. in total number, have 87. The Chinese have 34. The numbers are approximations that may vary depending on how joint ventures are counted.
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Originally posted by Boroda
Milochka, should I post some reports on Western launch explosions? Back in the 80s they showed at least one launch vehicle explosion at Canaveral or Vandenberg a month. Looked like every third Delta or Atlas was set up as a firework.
Again: we made 3-4 launches a week, and explosions happen. When you make 2-3 launches a month and still get a ****up every month - you'd better shut up and listen while big men teach you.
How many people died?
Then it won't be you doing the teaching. :rofl
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Originally posted by Boroda
Milochka, should I post some reports on Western launch explosions? Back in the 80s they showed at least one launch vehicle explosion at Canaveral or Vandenberg a month. Looked like every third Delta or Atlas was set up as a firework.
Again: we made 3-4 launches a week, and explosions happen. When you make 2-3 launches a month and still get a ****up every month - you'd better shut up and listen while big men teach you.
How many Russian flags planted on the Moon, big man.
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Delta has a history of over 300 launches, with a 95% success rate.
From 1969 through 1978 (inclusive), Thor-Delta was NASA's most popular launcher, with 84 launch attempts. Out of the 84 attempts there were 7 failures or partial failures (91.6% successful).
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Man I can't wait for Putin to catch a cold and Russia plays Ballads on the radio for a Month.
:D
Mac
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Originally posted by Boroda
I had two French girls living at my place several years ago - you know, girls on TV or in the movies are quite different from real life :)
Get out more.. ;)
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Originally posted by AWMac
Man I can't wait for Putin to catch a cold and Russia plays Ballads on the radio for a Month.
:D
Mac
dirges, I doubt you'll hear "more than words" :D
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Originally posted by storch
dirges, I doubt you'll hear "more than words" :D
My bad... Dirges was the word.
Vodka will be on sale also.
:aok
Mac
Word
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funny boroda.
i say NR-! NR-2..
and you go into a "tantrum:..wow
You ever hear of a Polonium Sandwich?
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Even after all these years it is still satisfying to see Russia on it`s knees and grasping at straws. :aok
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..and still manage and fund its manipulative media.
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Even after all these years it is still satisfying to see Russia on it`s knees and grasping at straws. :aok
I agree...being communist in Russia today is so 1984.
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In December 7th, technically directed by John Ford but actually made by someone else and stuck with his name, Japanese aircraft are portrayed by American SBDs with meatballs on the wings.
http://www.archive.org/details/December7th
Can you spot them?
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Originally posted by Black Sheep
..and still manage and fund its manipulative media.
Great. I say that there wasn't anything like what started the thread, because I DO watch our TV sometimes, and you keep persuading me that it was as YOUR media says, not as what I saw myself?!
Êîãäà ñòðàíå íóæíû ãåðîè - ïèçäà ðîæàåò ìóäàêîâ. I am speechless.
Anyway, sheep isn't the most intelligent mammal.
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No excuse.
What the State-run NTV did to spice-up the news is just embarrassing.
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Originally posted by Boroda
Anyway, sheep isn't the most intelligent mammal.
For which the Scots, Irish, and Serbs men are grateful for every single day. And the Greeks would have each other if it were not so.
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Originally posted by 1K3
No excuse.
What the State-run NTV did to spice-up the news is just embarrassing.
1) NTV is not state-run.
2) What your media says is just a plain lie.
Now think about who's media is "manipulative".
Look, I can read Western press and watch Western TV, while you guys don't have Russian media availible.
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Sort of bypassed this thread.
Am I correct that it was a Reuters screw-up?
Am I correct to assume that the Russians absolutely had the technology and means to send a sub down there, and promptly did so?
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Originally posted by Angus
Sort of bypassed this thread.
Am I correct that it was a Reuters screw-up?
Am I correct to assume that the Russians absolutely had the technology and means to send a sub down there, and promptly did so?
Titanic footage shown on NTV was labeled as "Titanic" and was used as an illustration of previous MIR achievements.
No one here ever said that a flag on ocean bottom means anything. The purpose of the project was to take soil samples.
Russia has a fleet of nuclear icebreakers since late-50s. A first surface ship that reached North Pole was "Arktika" in 1977. Now "Rossiya" led a small caravan to the North Pole. MIR probes are capable of submerging to 6.5km depth. The biggest problem now was to find an open-water pool, made by the icebreaker, on the way up to the surface.
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Ok. Nice :aok
The first one to cross was Nautilius though?
And the first one to cross on the surface completely?
(Not a return tour, but a crossthrough, - out of my head I think that was done recently)
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This is like watching the fat kid get whammied time after time in dodgeball :)
Boroda, you strike me as a nice guy in real life. Its a shame your worldview is so, so narrow.
While the rest of the planet has moved on, Russia is lingering to re-live the 60s. I would, but I just aint much of a Beatles fan
:)
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Originally posted by Rino
How many Russian flags planted on the Moon, big man.
I don't know, the first one (Soviet) was delivered there on September 14th 1959 at 00:02:24 Moscow time.
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Originally posted by Angus
Am I correct to assume that the Russians absolutely had the technology and means to send a sub down there, and promptly did so?
Even the measly Finland with population of 5 million has the technology and means to send a sub down there. The very subs the russians used were built in Finland in the 80's :p
The US Cocom officials didn't believe it either and gave a green light for the project.
Oh yeah, apparently the SU didn't have the technology :D
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Is Russia's sense of acheivement that low these days? Dropping a flag in the ocean and calling where it lands a new discovery?
That's sad.
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Originally posted by LePaul
This is like watching the fat kid get whammied time after time in dodgeball :)
All I see here is a bunch people representing intellectual majority, living in a strange world built by Western media, where Iraq has WMD, Serbs genocide poor Albanians and Russians threaten to conquer the world. And they refuse to listen when they are being told that media lies to them.
Denying that Russian MIR probes reached the ocean bottom is funny. There were Swedish and Australian scientists aboard Mir-2.
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Originally posted by Boroda
I don't know, the first one (Soviet) was delivered there on September 14th 1959 at 00:02:24 Moscow time.
:aok
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I this some Russia is bigger than US, US is bigger than Russia discussion?
Anyway, i already noticed that alot of the US media is lies!
But where'd you hear that from? NTV?
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Originally posted by Fishu
Even the measly Finland with population of 5 million has the technology and means to send a sub down there. The very subs the russians used were built in Finland in the 80's :p
The US Cocom officials didn't believe it either and gave a green light for the project.
Oh yeah, apparently the SU didn't have the technology :D
Woot?
More info?????
(drooling)
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Originally posted by PanzerIV
I this some Russia is bigger than US, US is bigger than Russia discussion?
Anyway, i already noticed that alot of the US media is lies!
But where'd you hear that from? NTV?
Where are the WMD?
I saw a news program mentioned at the beginning of this thread. I mean - I saw it with my own eyes. And now some russophobic illiterate morons who can't even read Cyrillic letters tell me that it wasn't as I saw it!
I read Western articles about Russia and I mostly see hallucinations from people who know that we have bears walking in the streets.
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Originally posted by LePaul
Is Russia's sense of acheivement that low these days? Dropping a flag in the ocean and calling where it lands a new discovery?
That's sad.
How many nuclear icebreakers US has? Why don't Canada or Denmark send their probes to the North Pole?
A new discovery? Where did you hear that? I mean - who said so?
LePaul, I am a big Beatles fan, but your view from the 60s surprises me. You post as if you hallucinate.
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Originally posted by LePaul
This is like watching the fat kid get whammied time after time in dodgeball :)
Boroda, you strike me as a nice guy in real life. Its a shame your worldview is so, so narrow.
While the rest of the planet has moved on, Russia is lingering to re-live the 60s. I would, but I just aint much of a Beatles fan
:)
My sentiments exactly.
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Boroda brings good points.
We should always try to remember that we don't know what we don't know.
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Bears do ride in taxi cabs though. See about 1/2 way down the page.
More good pics, http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.englishrussia.com/images/daily_photos/33.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.englishrussia.com/%3Fp%3D261&h=237&w=320&sz=80&hl=en&start=3&tbnid=8f23AezG8BFZKM:&tbnh=101&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drussian%2Bbears%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
The pic just above the bear in taxi is also good, That’s from Ukraine, former part of USSR, in there are still a lot people (more than half) speak Russian. According to the sign this is a building is a “Bureau for Better City Look”, of Odessa city.
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Originally posted by Angus
Woot?
More info?????
(drooling)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIR_(submersible)
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
Bears do ride in taxi cabs though. See about 1/2 way down the page.
More good pics, http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.englishrussia.com/images/daily_photos/33.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.englishrussia.com/%3Fp%3D261&h=237&w=320&sz=80&hl=en&start=3&tbnid=8f23AezG8BFZKM:&tbnh=101&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drussian%2Bbears%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
The pic just above the bear in taxi is also good, That’s from Ukraine, former part of USSR, in there are still a lot people (more than half) speak Russian. According to the sign this is a building is a “Bureau for Better City Look”, of Odessa city.
he taxi cab has Belorussian plates, and it's a dummy bear.
Look, even when you try to joke - it looks silly.
Odessa is Odessa, it's a special place, not Russia, not Ukraine, not Israel. Very special. I can make such photos in any country. The sign in Ukrainian is "Bureau of city aesthetics and outdoor advertising" if I can read the letters correctly, they are too small.
For me the first photo is the most funny. An antique store and it's guard :D
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Originally posted by Fishu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIR_(submersible)
Rauma-Repola? Great shipyard. Wasn't it them who built Taimyr and Vaigach nuclear icebreakers hulls? I still have a Rauma-Repola pin with a small piece of amber somewhere, got it from one of the Father's friends in SPb (Leningrad) when I was a kid.
Why don't you guys build more submersibles like that and give them for hire to barbaric nations like America, Canada or Denmark? ;) I understand that Russia is the only market for nuclear icebreaker hulls, but such small hi-tech things should be quite popular. In fact it's more technologically advanced then some space vehicles. (Look, I admit that I have never heard of where Mirs were built, i first read about Mirs in "Science and Life" magazine in mid-80s and don't remember them mentioning Finland).
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I'm waiting for Boroda to say that they invented the internet instead of Al Gore.
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The Russians have any Newt Suits?
1987: the Newt Suit, developed by the Canadian engineer Phil Nuytten. The Newt Suit is constructed to function like a 'submarine you can wear', allowing the diver to work at normal atmospheric pressure even at depths of over 300 metres. Made of cast aluminium, it has fully-articulated joints so the diver can move more easily underwater. The life-support system provides 6–8 hours of air, with an emergency back-up supply of an additional 48 hours.
Any Deep Worker? It is a self-propelled one-person submarine designed by Dr Phil Nuytten. It is able to descend to a depth of 606 metres and can travel at speeds of up to 3.5 knots.
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Originally posted by Boroda
Where are the WMD?
I saw a news program mentioned at the beginning of this thread. I mean - I saw it with my own eyes. And now some russophobic illiterate morons who can't even read Cyrillic letters tell me that it wasn't as I saw it!
I read Western articles about Russia and I mostly see hallucinations from people who know that we have bears walking in the streets.
I wasnt trying to offend you, maybe your a Ameriphobic?
Anyway settle down.
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Originally posted by PanzerIV
I wasnt trying to offend you, maybe your a Ameriphobic?
Anyway settle down.
I thought it's clear that my post was against "journalists", propaganda-warriors. Sorry if I offended You.
I can hardly be called "Ameriphobe", I just understand that our countries have different interests. Both Red and Blue sides are not "good" or "evil", as I see it.