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Title: Couple films
Post by: FX1 on August 11, 2007, 05:11:37 PM
When i first started in the game I really got some good ideas from watching other vets films.. Thought this could maybe help some newbs with better tactics and maneuvers.

5 on 1:   http://www.mediafire.com/?1olevefwngy
54 kills no vulchs 3 rearms:   http://www.mediafire.com/?1e8dj2gm3nz
Spit 16:  http://www.mediafire.com/?3jmzmzlwowx
Title: Couple films
Post by: DoNKeY on August 11, 2007, 06:30:18 PM
I think the 54 kills one will be the most downloaded one.  lol
Title: Couple films
Post by: Spikes on August 11, 2007, 06:37:04 PM
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Originally posted by DoNKeY
I think the 54 kills one will be the most downloaded one.  lol


Agreed.
Title: 54 kills 3 reloads.
Post by: B@tfinkV on August 12, 2007, 01:42:44 AM
I only watched this one. excelent film! shows all the characteristics of 'smart flying' without needing to fly at 40k.  FX demonstrates here very good flying to stay alive(maybe a few kill steals also :p)

thanks for posting.

S! FX1 very good flying.
Title: Couple films
Post by: FX1 on August 13, 2007, 11:17:05 AM
Thanks Bat

That flight started with a 28 kill run. After my first rearm i got real stupid and had a couple close calls. I only wish i had those encounters on film. WMlute came really close with his N1k of ending my flight. I mistook his N1k for a newb that had been head hunting me. We danced from 10k down to the deck. After that close call i was flying some what timid for my taste (: Thats when i started to film..
Title: Couple films
Post by: B@tfinkV on August 13, 2007, 01:44:45 PM
hey FX just watched the 5 on 1 clip. another great film, much more the FX1 we know and fear :)
Title: Couple films
Post by: B@tfinkV on August 14, 2007, 11:07:27 PM
BUMP


i am amazed that more people are not commenting on these films.

you newer guys out there, you can learn everything you will ever need to learn just by watchin these three films.

BUMP
Title: Couple films
Post by: Vudak on August 14, 2007, 11:14:18 PM
FX1, you a zen master or something? :D

On that 5 on 1 clip, you managed to jink away *just* in the knick of time, without even looking at what you were jinking from! :eek:

Around the 54 second mark I think.

Nice flying - nice flying indeed :aok
Title: Couple films
Post by: MajWoody on August 15, 2007, 01:38:59 AM
FX1 <-------ownz all:)
Title: Couple films
Post by: evenhaim on August 15, 2007, 03:33:36 AM
FX1, you have always been a great cartoon pilot and a class act as well. Well done
Title: Couple films
Post by: SkyRock on August 15, 2007, 10:58:21 AM
I agree with Bat, these are some very good training films.  Actually, the word might be inspirational films, as many may never get to the skill level shown here.  FX, nice flyin bud, .:aok

Mark
Title: Couple films
Post by: Max on August 15, 2007, 11:22:00 AM
<-- feels more dweebier than evah b4 :cry :t
Title: Couple films
Post by: FX1 on August 15, 2007, 12:05:17 PM
Thanks guys!

When i first started flying i got owned by a particular pilot over and over one night. I would come in at 6k over his head and he would kill me every time. That night i found out that I had so much more to learn in the game and that you didn't need the advantage to kill.

I found a couple films from this pilot and started to practice his moves. I played close attention to his overshot reversals that fool you into thinking that you can make the shot. Also i was sold on the spit after that encounter.

Leviathn

I asked Shawk if knew this guy and his response was.....

"Dont let Levi up off the field, hes one deadly mofo"
Title: Couple films
Post by: DoNKeY on August 24, 2007, 12:00:39 AM
Good films, everyone should watch them.
Title: Couple films
Post by: RSLQK186 on August 24, 2007, 04:09:42 PM
Was watching 54 kills and near the end someone asked SHawk where he was headed. The reply was "where ever FX is". I stoped my hand 1 inch from the button on my stick I use for squad vox. Was going to say "feal safer with him around do ya?" the way I would rib one of the better players in my squad.

The mark of a good film(or movie) is when I forget all about my piece of reality. Good job.
Title: Couple films
Post by: B@tfinkV on August 25, 2007, 05:14:37 AM
LOL hacksaw. i sometimes find myself moving the stick and throttle while watching another player's film. i know exactly what you mean.
Title: Couple films
Post by: Black Jack on August 26, 2007, 03:59:42 PM
You guys are right about learning a lot from watching thoses films but there is also a very important aspect that new players like myself couldn't find before watching thoses films but maybe with the new film viewer it will be better. That is just how much rudder or throttle did he apply or cut or give or flaps. In some films u can't see it from the controls. In the 5vs1, I'm looking at it in recorded views to learn how u guys look around and teach me how to look like that but it seems like he doesn't really look, he just knows they are coming and turns just enough to be missed. I think u can watch thoses films a million times and u would still not know how certain moves are made. Nevertheless we can always pick up stuff from good films like these. :)
Title: Couple films
Post by: Traveler on August 27, 2007, 12:48:46 PM
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Originally posted by Black Jack
You guys are right about learning a lot from watching thoses films but there is also a very important aspect that new players like myself couldn't find before watching thoses films but maybe with the new film viewer it will be better. That is just how much rudder or throttle did he apply or cut or give or flaps. In some films u can't see it from the controls. In the 5vs1, I'm looking at it in recorded views to learn how u guys look around and teach me how to look like that but it seems like he doesn't really look, he just knows they are coming and turns just enough to be missed. I think u can watch thoses films a million times and u would still not know how certain moves are made. Nevertheless we can always pick up stuff from good films like these. :)


Need to be careful about views.  He may be using IRTracker and AH doesn't record the views when using that hardward.
Title: Couple films
Post by: FX1 on August 27, 2007, 01:04:14 PM
Film viewer doesn't pick up my head position correctly. Some of the shot in the films makes it look like i cant see the con but in my saved views i can see them. Also i dont have my engine sound turned on. I can listen and tell were a con is without looking at my 6. Learning the different engine sounds that each plane helps me with my ACM. If i heir a LA7 on my six and know after our first merge that he is a newb i will keep on my target kill it and then deal with that LA7. If you flip that around a a vet is in a LA7 I will need to focus my attention on him and not the guy in my cross hairs.

That's one of the first trick i teach people is to turn your engine sound off and turn exterior sounds up 100%. It also helps you from being picked (:
Title: Couple films
Post by: Lusche on August 27, 2007, 01:18:15 PM
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Originally posted by FX1

That's one of the first trick i teach people is to turn your engine sound off and turn exterior sounds up 100%. It also helps you from being picked (:


It's not only killing the immersion for me (flying a 2000hp without engine roar? C'mon...) but gamey as hell.. just like taking advantage of the ol windmill & shore battery bugs in GV's...
Title: Couple films
Post by: FX1 on August 27, 2007, 01:25:20 PM
Or like turning your tank tread off.


It helps me in the game and i dont have a rarrrrrrrr in my head phones for a couple hours. Its a simple trick that was passed on to me and help me in more ways then one.


What your talking about are bugs in the game that HT has fixed. This is a setting not a bug that is meant to be adjusted.
Title: Couple films
Post by: Lusche on August 27, 2007, 01:32:15 PM
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Originally posted by FX1
Or like turning your tank tread off.


It helps me in the game and i dont have a rarrrrrrrr in my head phones for a couple hours. Its a simple trick that was passed on to me and help me in more ways then one.


What your talking about are bugs in the game that HT has fixed. This is a setting not a bug that is meant to be adjusted.


This "trick" is similar as if you could make your cockpit transparent to have an unobstructed view.
 I hope that HTC will change the settings, so that disabling your own engine sound will disable ALL enemy engine sounds too.
Title: Couple films
Post by: FX1 on August 27, 2007, 01:45:32 PM
LOL ok
Title: Couple films
Post by: FX1 on August 27, 2007, 02:02:50 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche
This "trick" is similar as if you could make your cockpit transparent to have an unobstructed view.


Thats a hack what i am talking about is a setting. Totally different ball park from changing the game to adjusting your sound levels.
Title: Couple films
Post by: Lusche on August 27, 2007, 02:05:52 PM
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Originally posted by FX1
Thats a hack what i am talking about is a setting. Totally different ball park from changing the game to adjusting your sound levels.


A did say "if you could" - that implies it wouldn't be a hack.

Completly switching off your engine sounds in a plane so that you hear a enemy 2k away or in your dead spot is far from being "adjusting" it's a most gamey way to take advantage of some settings. And I very very rarely do use the word "gamey".

A adjustable setting for cockpit views that would give you unobstructed vision if  just tweaked enough would be comparable.
Title: Couple films
Post by: The Fugitive on August 27, 2007, 02:52:14 PM
I have to agree with Lusche, your "gaming the game" by turning your engine/tracks sounds off.

On one hand, there are those who like to try to keep things as realistic as they can even tho this is a game. As an example, stick stiring. Realistically you couldn't do it because the G forces would kill you, cripple your plane, or both. Some frown on it.

On the other hand there are others who use what ever trick they can to avoid getting shot down, or get an edge to win.
Title: Couple films
Post by: Vudak on August 27, 2007, 03:33:10 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche

Completly switching off your engine sounds in a plane so that you hear a enemy 2k away or in your dead spot is far from being "adjusting" it's a most gamey way to take advantage of some settings. And I very very rarely do use the word "gamey".



So where's the line?  Is lowering them a little "ok?"  Because this game would just be uncomfortable for me if I had to have them blasting at 100% all the time (I think I use about 40% - I need to hear my engine a little for immersion/not forgetting about WEP, you know :) ).

What I'm doing is no less "gamey" than what he's doing.  And I hope HTC doesn't change it because, as I stated, it would just be uncomfortable to have it at 100% for a long duration.
Title: Couple films
Post by: Lusche on August 27, 2007, 04:00:51 PM
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Originally posted by Vudak
So where's the line?  Is lowering them a little "ok?"  Because this game would just be uncomfortable for me if I had to have them blasting at 100% all the time (I think I use about 40% - I need to hear my engine a little for immersion/not forgetting about WEP, you know :) ).

What I'm doing is no less "gamey" than what he's doing.  And I hope HTC doesn't change it because, as I stated, it would just be uncomfortable to have it at 100% for a long duration.


There is no fixed line. But it's a difference between A) you are adjusting engine sounds to be comfortable and to avoid hearing damage and B) eleminating engine sound for the reason of getting a surreal advantage in game and to teach that "trick" to new players. And that's what FX does.


And I didn't call for engine sounds not being adjustable - that would suck for the very reasons you pointed out. Just like I said, enemy planes engine sounds should be reduced  too.
Title: Couple films
Post by: FX1 on August 27, 2007, 04:12:21 PM
This would be a good topic in the main forum.

I don't think their is anything wrong with it. Its just been the way i have played in AW and AH. If you prefer to have your sound up more power to ya. I will be the first to tell you that it does help your acm.
Title: Couple films
Post by: B@tfinkV on August 28, 2007, 07:09:25 AM
hmmmm..

i have to say, i totaly agree with lusche.

but here is the difference. I like to 'fly' WW2 aircraft. i dont care about winning or getting the most kill possible.
its just the simple difference between a 'gamer' and a 'simmer'. i play this as a 'sim' not a 'game'.
Title: Couple films
Post by: Tom5572 on August 29, 2007, 10:59:12 AM
FX1,
     Thanks for posting the videos, I learned alot from them and had a successfull night last night.  Hopefully I will be able to continue.  I was glad to see that I was not one of your victims in the two that I watched but I am sure you have film of me at some other time.  Thanks again.

SSG Glaser
Title: hmm
Post by: goober69 on September 08, 2007, 07:38:59 AM
i dunno i ve been flying with all my engine sounds at around  35/40 %
the reason i initialy did so was because of the sound bothering me after five hours of play. and after a year i and reading this post i say it does help my sa a lot. but i wouldnt turn em all the way off cause i like a little noise lol

also though i noticed that even with my sounds reduced, enme planes noises are lower than if my engine cuts out, like due to oil or radiator damage so there is a reduction whether your sound is down or not, as long as your motar is on youll hear them lower.
Title: Couple films
Post by: Trip01 on September 21, 2007, 09:15:07 AM
For some reason the spit 16 film will not actually download from mediafire. I'd quite like to see it, does anyone have it elsewere?

BTW I found this thread because I was searching for FX1 after he killed me twice yesterday. There's nothing unusual about me being shot down or finding a pilot better than me but it's rare that a pilot is so much better that there is something really subtle and magical about it.

Trip
Title: Couple films
Post by: FX1 on October 15, 2007, 02:34:32 PM
A Koth "Almost"

http://www.mediafire.com/?e2lyez44do1

Full Koth round

http://www.mediafire.com/?9zjmh1xg90x
Title: Couple films
Post by: waystin2 on October 15, 2007, 03:35:53 PM
Fx the films, your ACM & marksmanship were great.  However, I agree with Lusche.  Your ability to apply your great ACM & marksmanship skills without enhanced audio levels is in question.  I was extremely dissappointed by this "gaming" behavior.  I will say no more, as you are correct that this discussion would be more appropriate in the general forum.  Lusche, I encourage you to take it there.
Title: Couple films
Post by: Lusche on October 15, 2007, 03:38:20 PM
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Originally posted by waystin2
Fx the films, your ACM & marksmanship were great.  However, I agree with Lusche.  Your ability to apply your great ACM & marksmanship skills without enhanced audio levels is in question.  I was extremely dissappointed by this "gaming" behavior.  I will say no more, as you are correct that this discussion would be more appropriate in the general forum.  Lusche, I encourage you to take it there.


Ehhmmm you are a bit late. That discussion already happened  - about 2 month's ago, when this thread was new.  ;)

FX himself took it there, and I think there is no need to rehash it right now.
Title: Couple films
Post by: waystin2 on October 15, 2007, 03:45:06 PM
Sorry Lusche I was still in my AH training pants at that time, and would not have known what was going on in the BBS then!  Thanks!:aok
Title: Couple films
Post by: Dead Man Flying on October 15, 2007, 03:57:37 PM
I always found immersion to be the best way to improve my game.  I didn't adjust my head position, didn't make custom gunsights, didn't reduce sound volume, or anything.   Being there, feeling like I was really in that environment,  helped my flying a lot I think.  I tried flying with the sound off a couple of times, but I found it too silent and disconcerting.  I guess I enjoy flying with some kind of "white" noise in the background.

Honestly, though, I don't think that the difference between having the engine on or off -- or raising your view as high up as you can get it over your nose -- are so great as to constitute "gaming" or cheating in any way.  You're ultimately going to fly best with your game set up in the way that you feel most comfortable.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: Couple films
Post by: Angrist on October 24, 2007, 12:04:10 AM
Complete and utter amazement, FX.....:eek: :aok

That right there is what I want to learn!
Title: Couple films
Post by: B@tfinkV on October 24, 2007, 01:15:11 AM
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
I always found immersion to be the best way to improve my game.



thats a very good point. do you find that when you were really into it and there was nothing but the screen and the game in your head you flew your best?
did you ever have days when you couldnt get into it and performed worse as a result? (god forbid leviapwn would have a bad day)

i know when i am not truly into it my SA is the very first thing that suffers. when i am truly blasted after a friday night i get so into it and usualy perform alot better.

maybe taking yourself mentaly out of the real world and really getting into the spirit of the cartoon world is one thing many of us are looking for to improve our game.
Title: Couple films
Post by: goober69 on October 24, 2007, 06:29:51 AM
yes when im playing and im "on"  i hear and see nothing else and it feels great after a five kill winning streak landing,
i dotn have track ir but man when im on like that ill be moving in my chair so much i get physicaly tierd.
Title: Couple films
Post by: FX1 on October 26, 2007, 01:34:05 AM
http://www.mediafire.com/?cwc2rtx1bn3

http://www.mediafire.com/?el9nwoq1pod
Title: Couple films
Post by: B@tfinkV on October 26, 2007, 01:42:18 AM
hey FX.   '14 for a 16' is the wrong film, unless youre trying to show how to die to a 205 in a mossy ;)


CAP1 was great fun to watch, very good flying.

S!
Title: Couple films
Post by: FX1 on October 26, 2007, 02:21:31 AM
My bad long night.
Title: Couple films
Post by: FX1 on October 26, 2007, 02:32:00 AM
Good link

http://www.mediafire.com/?2da0cdbtmea
Title: Re: Couple films
Post by: FX1 on August 13, 2008, 04:31:04 PM
Found some really great fights on my old cpu that i hope to be posting soon.
Title: Re: Couple films
Post by: ImADot on August 13, 2008, 04:40:50 PM
You couldn't start a new thread?
Why dig up this old post where all the links are dead?

Invalid Quickkey. This error has been forwarded to MediaFire's development team.

The quickkey you provided for file download was invalid. This is usually caused because the file is no longer stored on Mediafire. This occurs when the file is removed by the originating user or Mediafire.
Title: Re: Couple films
Post by: FX1 on August 13, 2008, 04:58:35 PM
Sorry IamDot i thought that these films were still on media share..

You put me in check..
Title: Re: Couple films
Post by: TonyJoey on August 13, 2008, 10:07:17 PM
Yea i was disapponited to see that message too as I wanted to see these.
Title: Re: Couple films
Post by: ImADot on August 14, 2008, 08:49:18 AM
No prob, FX1.
Like TonyJoey, I was looking forward to watching the vids...I'm always looking for ways to increase my mental library of tactics to use in the MA.