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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: B@tfinkV on August 13, 2007, 02:05:03 AM
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unless forced to by gear damage or vulchers over your field......belly landing is just LAME!!
LAME i tell you.
frikken quake gamers!
:furious :furious
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And oh so convenient :D
But, I owe ya from the other thread, so... pffft. BLtards.... :)
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OK fine. Wheels are down. happy now? :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/wrek38-1.jpg)
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:lol
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Originally posted by Guppy35
OK fine. Wheels are down. happy now? :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/wrek38-1.jpg)
Guppy..... you didn't need to land yet! You still had another wingtip...
:aok
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Originally posted by Guppy35
OK fine. Wheels are down. happy now? :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/wrek38-1.jpg)
How did the props get bent if you landed on the wheels?
Glove
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Originally posted by Gloves
How did the props get bent if you landed on the wheels?
Glove
Just enjoy the pic..... The 80th has it's secrets.
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i thought belly landing was a short field landing technique.:O
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Originally posted by Gloves
How did the props get bent if you landed on the wheels?
Glove
Oh, I can show you how to do that with the way I land!
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How about this;
Last week I busted both wings in half on my F6F. I flew back to base but the engine died coming in and I was having trouble lining up on the runway in time. I touched down over 1/2 down the runway, wheels down, engine dead and was going to overshoot the end of the runway so I pushed the stick forward and ended up at the very end of the runway standing on my nose. It was the only way I could think of to come to a stop in time and stay on the runway and it worked.
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the Belly Landings Team (BLT) has deemed your case acceptable, as in the case of same said situation whence a player may be forced to stir the rudders hard enough to twist off the undercart and thus remain able to land any kills beheld.
thank you for your loyalty.
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Just wondering, is there another way to land?
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Barely!
Is my case acceptable?
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z144/croduh/barely.jpg)
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(http://www.jg11.org/cpg1412/albums/userpics/10002/normal_ahss2.jpg)
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
How about this;
Last week I busted both wings in half on my F6F. I flew back to base but the engine died coming in and I was having trouble lining up on the runway in time. I touched down over 1/2 down the runway, wheels down, engine dead and was going to overshoot the end of the runway so I pushed the stick forward and ended up at the very end of the runway standing on my nose. It was the only way I could think of to come to a stop in time and stay on the runway and it worked.
If that happens, yank back on the stick hard (enough to pull gear off ground but not to flip over). Stall 'er if you have to. Pull gear up FAST then set 'er back down. Hard if you have to. I don't recommend it for all landings, but for such cases as you typed (emergency, coming in too hot, gear already down) it slows you down faster.
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Originally posted by dedalos
Just wondering, is there another way to land?
Always :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Snap23-2.jpg)
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Oh come on! You still have flaps, elevators, rudders, both sets of tail flight surfaces!
That's like a dream landing for you! :lol
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Only time I do a wheels down landing is on the CV and at a Port ... otherwise ... it's a waste of time ... and I have unlimited planes in my "special" hanger.
Oh .. and I use Auto-Takeoff .. unless the CV is turning.
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I agree with Slapshot. Only, if I'm damaged I'll use 'em. If I'm coming in too hot and can't go around (eng dead, for example) or if I'm wounded, and need to stop quickly.
It's much more fun to land with gear down. Oh, and safer, too (er... just.. not for Guppy...)
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Originally posted by Krusty
If that happens, yank back on the stick hard (enough to pull gear off ground but not to flip over). Stall 'er if you have to. Pull gear up FAST then set 'er back down. Hard if you have to. I don't recommend it for all landings, but for such cases as you typed (emergency, coming in too hot, gear already down) it slows you down faster.
There was no time for that. I thought about rudder stirring to bust up the gear but I was too close to the end of the runway already and still would have skidded off so I just planted the nose.
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Oh .. and I use Auto-Takeoff .. unless the CV is turning.
Pffffftf newbe :noid
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I "belly land" all the time. I'm practicing for those anti-vulch combat landings I enjoy so much. :) Plus, roll outs bore me.
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landing gear is overrated;)
never used it and never will
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Landing gear is a crutch for the weak. You pro-wheel dorks should use those struts to hold your heads up, because you're a bunch of spineless score weenies, panicked by the thought of not landing your kills for your obligatory round of "WTFG!"s, even though you likely got all your kills vulching or ganging.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Landing gear is a crutch for the weak. You pro-wheel dorks should use those struts to hold your heads up, because you're a bunch of spineless score weenies, panicked by the thought of not landing your kills for your obligatory round of "WTFG!"s, even though you likely got all your kills vulching or ganging.
Maybe if you could get any kills to land you would not be talking like that :rofl
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Originally posted by dedalos
Maybe if you could get any kills to land you would not be talking like that :rofl
Don't make out that you are all that, stavros.
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Originally posted by Krusty
Oh come on! You still have flaps, elevators, rudders, both sets of tail flight surfaces!
That's like a dream landing for you! :lol
:rofl :rofl
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whats the problem with no using gear? it gets you down faster, less likely to get vulched....lol
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Originally posted by croduh
Barely!
Is my case acceptable?
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z144/croduh/barely.jpg)
No...
Completely out of line your pilot wasnt even scratched, had you had a pilot wound this would have been OK..
BTW.... Did you actually land that or did it just drop out of the sky and fall onto the CV
:lol :D
nice screenie
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Well i was just hanging there for a few minutes, going up and down, and landed
my kills later.
I guess i'll have to work harder:D
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I dont care much about how other ppl land, but i think belly landing should count as ditch. And if you cannt land plane on gears because of damage - too bad for you.
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I dont care much about how other ppl land, but i think belly landing should count as ditch. And if you cannt land plane on gears because of damage - too bad for you.
Agree, especially with perk planes. Belly landing ( in real world ) or forced belly landing usually mean scraping off a plane...
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True, but in real life you still got your kills credited (and lauded) even if you belly landed. Kills were for the pilot, not the plane.
In AH's system I'm perfectly fine with a "safe landing" being allowed for belly landing, because you can ONLY get it on the cement. If you belly land anywhere, you get a ditch, when historically you'd still be considered safe and still get praise for your kills. This game makes getting praise a bit harder than real life (because you get more than one life) so I like the "anything is safe as long as it's on cement" rule.
The ratio of random land/water to cement that you can land on is still 10 Million to 1. Keep that in mind.
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Worry about how to kill the bad guy. Not about how he lands after he kills you
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I had a beauty of a landing last night. Pilot wounded by a D9 I managed to get it home. Slowed for landing between the blackouts and was all set to touch down, flaps all down etc. blacked out after I throttled back and flared.
Blackout lasts forever. I can hear Soulyss laughing from the tower as my now pilotless 38G is deciding where to go. It wasn't the runway. As I come out of the black out from the PW again I'm left wing low and headed for the hanger with the stall horn blaring. Left wing scrapes the ground and I slam into the dirt. I'm along for the ride at this point. Left wing tip snaps off props dig in and I slide towards the hanger expecting I'm dead. I ended up sliding to a stop on the cement with the right wing against the wall next to the hanger door and my nose inside the hanger.
landed kills.
Any landing you can walk away from :)
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Any landing you can walk away from
Yep.
(http://www.jg11.org/cpg1412/albums/userpics/10003/normal_stukalx.JPG)
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
unless forced to by gear damage or vulchers over your field......belly landing is just LAME!!
LAME i tell you.
frikken quake gamers!
:furious :furious
This has to be a joke, right? Someone is actually whining about someone else belly landing?
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
This has to be a joke, right? Someone is actually whining about someone else belly landing?
ack-ack
No matter how tempting that lure looks AKAK ... stay away ... stay FAR away ... :D
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It's more fun to deny the landing-vulch-runway-warrior types. Belly landing's are the way to go.:aok
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
This has to be a joke, right? Someone is actually whining about someone else belly landing?
ack-ack
Probably cuz Bat hit someone in the fuel tanks as he was vulchin their field and they executed the "holy sh.." landing plan.... and executed it to effect, therefore negating Bat's hard won vulch kill.
Or some variation of same idea :)
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LOL, I stopped gear down landings a year or less after I started playing the game. When they start penalizing for belly landings I'll start going wheels down again. Otherwise it's the fastest way to land when you're on a capped field. May fave way is to belly slide into a hanger while the plane chasing you for the kill smacks it and explodes. :D
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Dang hard to stop jets..
(http://www.ka4zzq.com/Nightmares/Screenshots/SuccessfulLanding.JPG)
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Originally posted by Guppy35
OK fine. Wheels are down. happy now? :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/wrek38-1.jpg)
Beautiful! And fitting! WTG! :D
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Drone, it's hard to stop because you're so aerodynamic!!! I mean, no flight surfaces to get in the way of all that air!
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He's worried about a wheels-up landing not being a ditch.
Why not be more concerned that a wheels down landing where you roll 1-foot off the cement *is* called a ditch?
Finally, the strength of the plane has a lot to do with things. Most of US Navy planes could be patched and and flown again after a gentle belly landing. P-39 too for sure (not that we have that one). A new propellor was needed for sure, of course, but those Grumman planes sure could take a beating and keep on flying.
-Llama
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Originally posted by Krusty
Drone, it's hard to stop because you're so aerodynamic!!! I mean, no flight surfaces to get in the way of all that air!
Does it matter that most flight surfaces were attached on the first landing?
:cool:
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Originally posted by SlapShot
No matter how tempting that lure looks AKAK ... stay away ... stay FAR away ... :D
:rofl
:aok
Probably cuz Bat hit someone in the fuel tanks as he was vulchin their field and they executed the "holy sh.." landing plan.... and executed it to effect, therefore negating Bat's hard won vulch kill.
nah...i was actualy watching film posted by a very decent stick and was shocked to see that they landed on a clear runway with no wheels, through choice.
while slapshot has the best answer, quoted above, i do personaly like to add that small realism, and will never willingly land wheels up 'just to save time'
I dont care about the kills, i care about pretending its a real plane and treating it with the respect it deserves, not just completing the required 'landed succesfully' criteria with as little effort as possible.
maybe because i am an air combat and ww2 fanatic, not a thoughtless killing machine.
S!
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I'm a thoughtless killing machine. That's why I don't get that many kills ;)
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Originally posted by Guppy35
OK fine. Wheels are down. happy now? :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/wrek38-1.jpg)
Does this count?
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i38/westoaksplaza/ahss2.jpg)
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
nah...i was actualy watching film posted by a very decent stick and was shocked to see that they landed on a clear runway with no wheels, through choice.
ok, now I am worried about you. I thought you were kiding all this time. Shocked ?:huh
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Originally posted by bnasty
Does this count?
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i38/westoaksplaza/ahss2.jpg)
Absolutely. Nice landing :)
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Originally posted by dedalos
ok, now I am worried about you. I thought you were kiding all this time. Shocked ?:huh
oh come off it ded..I really dont think you mean that......you were already seriously worried about me before this thread :D
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Landing gear is a crutch for the weak. You pro-wheel dorks should use those struts to hold your heads up, because you're a bunch of spineless score weenies, panicked by the thought of not landing your kills for your obligatory round of "WTFG!"s, even though you likely got all your kills vulching or ganging.
I suspect sarcasm here.... In case it is not.... belly landing reaches the same end as landing gear down, does it not? If you belly land with kills, you still get them.
I'm with batty on this one in so far as the fact that I think it's terribly gamey to just belly land because you're too lazy to land gear down.
At the same time, I'm not about to tell anyone how to land.... I, personally, find great enjoyment in landing wheels down even without kills. It is a part of the simulation experience. A smooth, no bounce, landing is almost as satisfying as a decent kill, for me and as such, I make every effort to do so.
Belly landing when damaged (missing wings) or trying to evade landing-vulchers is perfectly acceptable, as is rolling an aircraft off its wheels when damaged and going to overshoot the runway.
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Originally posted by Xasthur
I, personally, find great enjoyment in landing wheels down even without kills. It is a part of the simulation experience. A smooth, no bounce, landing is almost as satisfying as a decent kill, for me and as such, I make every effort to do so.
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spot on!! perfect.
thats what i was trying to say!
nail hit on the head.