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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Boroda on August 15, 2007, 09:22:07 AM
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Anyone going there? August 21-25. Could be nice to meet and have a couple of beers or whatever ;)
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two words:
EJECTION SEAT
Stay safe, have a beer for me :)
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"The 2008 Model Ejection Seats will be Demonstrated for perspective clients."
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I hear envy from some village-dwellers living in a country incapable of making a decent ejection-seat? :D
Some people here work in aero-space companies, maybe anyone coming to Msk?
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Originally posted by Boroda
I hear envy from some village-dwellers living in a country incapable of making a decent ejection-seat? :D
Some people here work in aero-space companies, maybe anyone coming to Msk?
What country made the first ejection seat?
:noid
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The Germans in 1938 had almost perfected the "ejection seat" as we know it today. I have been wrong before though.
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Originally posted by Boroda
I hear envy from some village-dwellers living in a country incapable of making a decent ejection-seat? :D
Maybe if you made decent aircraft you wouldnt have so much practice to perfect them. :D
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If I were to collide with another aircraft (which happens from time to time) and I had my choice, I would choose that Russian seat. Call me communist - but that's my choice.
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Be honest, you would rather be riding on Martin Baker ;)
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I am a sour looser :( Never saw an ejection seat at work, since my first airshow in 1992.
I have heard that Russian Knights got new machines, Su-30s, I don't know if they'll fly them. This year they will show joint program with Swifts (Su-27s and MiG-29s in formation, 9 fighters of 2 types!), plus they'll show "dogfight", 1x1, 1x3 and 2x2. Sounds interesting...
Pictures from a recent airshow in SPb taken by my friend:
(http://sky1.chph.ras.ru/~uf/020607/strizh-6.jpg)
(http://sky1.chph.ras.ru/~uf/020607/strizh-vit-3.jpg)
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I think that Sukhoi make the best looking fighters in the world, they are beautiful. I love the paint schemes on the Su-33.
(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/fighter/su33/su33-2.jpg)
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I wish you could see them flying... It's awesome. No video can give you the true impression of how "Cobra" or "Chakra" look when you see them less then 1km away and feel the roar... And when the whole formation of 9 fighters goes vertical right above you - the air itself is trembling, together with the soil you stand on and, of course, your guts :)
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Originally posted by SkyRock
What country made the first ejection seat?
:noid
"The first ejection seats were developed independently during the World War II by Heinkel and SAAB. Early models were powered by compressed air and the first aircraft to be fitted with such a system was the Heinkel He 280 prototype jet fighter in 1940. One of the He 280 test pilots, Helmut Schenk, became the first person to escape from a stricken aircraft with an ejection seat on January 13, 1942 after his control surfaces iced up and became inoperable. However the He 280 never reached production status. Thus, the first operational type to provide ejection seats for the crew was the Heinkel He 219 Uhu night fighter in 1942.
In Sweden a version using compressed air was tested in 1941. A gunpowder ejection seat was developed by Bofors tested in 1943 for the Saab 21. The first test in the air was on a Saab 17 on 27 February 1944[1] and the first real use in July 29, 1946 after a mid-air collision between a J 21 and a J 22.[2]
In late 1944, the Heinkel He 162 featured a new type of ejection seat, this time fired by an explosive cartridge. In this system the seat rode on wheels set between two pipes running up the back of the cockpit. When lowered into position, caps at the top of the seat fitted over the pipes to close them. Cartridges, basically identical to shotgun shells, were placed in the bottom of the pipes, facing upward. When fired the gases would fill the pipes, "popping" the caps off the end and thereby forcing the seat to ride up the pipes on its wheels, and out of the aircraft. By the end of the war, the Do-335 Pfeil, Me-262 Schwalbe and Me-163 Komet also were fitted with ejection seats."
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I love to catch a good airshow whenever one's close, Boroda, but as you can tell from my signature, the Moscow AS will be a little bit too far to drive:lol
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the loudest most impressive sound I have ever heard on this planet was the sound of Four General Electric F-101-GE-102 turbofan engines in afterburner pointed right at me about 1/4 quarter mile away as a B1-B flew directly away from my location during an airshow at McChord AFB. It sounded like the entire earth was splitting in half. A truly beautiful airframe too.
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Originally posted by Yeager
the loudest most impressive sound I have ever heard on this planet was the sound of Four General Electric F-101-GE-102 turbofan engines in afterburner pointed right at me about 1/4 quarter mile away as a B1-B flew directly away from my location during an airshow at McChord AFB. It sounded like the entire earth was splitting in half. A truly beautiful airframe too.
Nearly pissed myself when I saw this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idtPVZsC0A0
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Originally posted by Yeager
the loudest most impressive sound I have ever heard on this planet was the sound of Four General Electric F-101-GE-102 turbofan engines in afterburner pointed right at me about 1/4 quarter mile away as a B1-B flew directly away from my location during an airshow at McChord AFB. It sounded like the entire earth was splitting in half. A truly beautiful airframe too.
Wolfala told me exactly the same thing. Unfortunately we don't have Tu-160s flying afterburner at airshows, only in Engels/Samara where they are based... I wonder did they fly over Guam last week or were that good old Tu-95s? ;)
Tu-160 is an amazing airplane.
FrodeMk3, I was asking for some guys who will maybe attend the airshow as aero-space company representatives.
In 2005 we had an American friend here in Msk, he came on Saturday and Sunday was the last Airshow day, so I met him at his hotel at 0800, and brought him there. He said he didn;t expect anything like he saw, said that in the US airshows are usually a few thousand spectators, no more... And he enjoyed the whole show, from antique I-15 aerobatics to Knights.
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Originally posted by Boroda
I hear envy from some village-dwellers living in a country incapable of making a decent ejection-seat? :D
Necessity is the mother of invention. :D
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niet:D
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Boroda: A friend of mine (and me) have actually planned and successfully launched several trips to airshows. Notobly him, but I had my hand in something that turned into several trips to Duxford.
So, if it's not too much trouble, could you tell me more about the one in Moscow? Sounds interesting and I'd love to be there, but this year I won't make it. But always wanted to se Russia, and there is always a next year, so good to start doing homework.
Also, if you do an Atlantic cross, consider a little island in the Atlantic. Rather hospitable folks, at least one ;)
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Originally posted by Boroda
Anyone going there? August 21-25. Could be nice to meet and have a couple of beers or whatever ;)
I'll be there for two days (Friday and Saturday) with Panzzer.
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the loudest most impressive sound I have ever heard on this planet was the sound of Four General Electric F-101-GE-102 turbofan engines in afterburner pointed right at me about 1/4 quarter mile away as a B1-B flew directly away from my location during an airshow at McChord AFB. It sounded like the entire earth was splitting in half.
You've never heard the Avro Vulcan then? Now that was a loud plane. Returning to the airshow scene next year too!
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B-1B's sound awesome but I still remember the airshows of my youth...the F-101's and F-4's were pretty stinkin loud too.
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Originally posted by Boroda
In 2005 we had an American friend here in Msk, he came on Saturday and Sunday was the last Airshow day, so I met him at his hotel at 0800, and brought him there. He said he didn;t expect anything like he saw, said that in the US airshows are usually a few thousand spectators, no more... And he enjoyed the whole show, from antique I-15 aerobatics to Knights.
Most of the Airshows around here draw at least 200,000 spectators. Even the Chino show has close to that number.
I was priviledged to see the SR-71 take off do a fly-by and leave on after burners at the 1987 show at the old Norton AFB. Loudest thing I ever heard.
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Originally posted by wasq
I'll be there for two days (Friday and Saturday) with Panzzer.
Sending you a PM with my phone number. I'll probably go there on Saturday.
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I know quite a few folks at the Boeing Design Center in Moscow, however I'm sure I would be reprimanded if I suggested that they meet up with Comrade Boroda. :D
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I suggest to meet near Tu-160 at 12:00 on Saturday. Tu-160 is a plane that you'll definitely see from a long distance ;)
This is how I look like: http://www.northoltwing.com/shootingclub/gallery/sept23/DSCF0541.html
We'll be with a group of Russian flightsim guys, probably with a big VVS flag.
Airshow website: http://www.airshow.ru/exhibition/1/ex.htm
Angus, unfortunately the big airshow happens every two years :( Thanks for the invitation, I saw your country from an airplane, it's beautiful! :) And you'll like Moscow, it's a nice big village :)
I wonder if it's OK to post my phone number right here, I did it several times, and even posted my street address.
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Originally posted by Boroda
This is how I look like: http://www.northoltwing.com/shootingclub/gallery/sept23/DSCF0541.html
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ohhhh ESKIMO! ;)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I know quite a few folks at the Boeing Design Center in Moscow, however I'm sure I would be reprimanded if I suggested that they meet up with Comrade Boroda. :D
Your American propaganda always pictures me in dark colours! I have to say that am not always drunk (only most of the time), and don't wear fur-hat or Hammer and a Sickle :D
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Here is a suggested meeting place: (http://phoneman.iup.ru/maks/_DSC0184.jpg)
And a picture from 2005, me, Uncles (our American friend) and Ksan from Russian WB:
(http://sky1.chph.ras.ru/~ksan/b.jpg)
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Is that guy to the left wearing a standard soviet issue tinfoil hat to reflect western propoganda rays?
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Originally posted by Furball
Is that guy to the left wearing a standard soviet issue tinfoil hat to reflect western propoganda rays?
It's a ritual anti-propaganda had made from folded Pravda with anti-Western spells.
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Originally posted by Boroda
It's a ritual anti-propaganda had made from folded Pravda with anti-Western spells.
:rofl :aok