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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: sax on August 16, 2007, 11:53:01 PM
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Need an arena with password only access for 5 year plus vets .
Hitech would probably bring his membership up 300 + members
returnees .
Has to be at least that many gone or going to leave due to
current game play or player issues .
Would also be incentive to continue to pay .
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Greetings,
How many out there remember the golden age of wargaming? SPI, Avalon Hill, GHQ, etc.....?
What kilt the industry? Lack of new members - specifically teenagers. If we push them out, there will be fewer and fewer players (it's a matter of age) and then there will be no AH.
Squeekers may be a pain, may take a while to instruct, may not play the way we like, but they are the future and will keep this game on the net in the next 10 years. And, I kinda want to play for the next 10 years.....
Regards,
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Originally posted by MWL
Greetings,
How many out there remember the golden age of wargaming? SPI, Avalon Hill, GHQ, etc.....?
What kilt the industry? Lack of new members - specifically teenagers. If we push them out, there will be fewer and fewer players (it's a matter of age) and then there will be no AH.
Squeekers may be a pain, may take a while to instruct, may not play the way we like, but they are the future and will keep this game on the net in the next 10 years. And, I kinda want to play for the next 10 years.....
Regards,
The board wargames were killed off by PC's and the internet. They did not die off because those of us who played them didn't invite preteens into our house to run amuck, wreck things, make ungodly noises just to get attention, and game the game.
I'm with ya Sax.:aok
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Originally posted by Shifty
They did not die off because those of us who played them didn't invite preteens into our house to run amuck, wreck things, make ungodly noises just to get attention, and game the game.
DISCLAIMER: While my kids were in their preteens I have no knowledge of them ever being at Shifty`s residence. I accept no responsibility for any damages, stress or general confusion.
Vote YES for the mandatory 12 month school year.
:rofl
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Originally posted by Jackal1
DISCLAIMER: While my kids were in their preteens I have no knowledge of them ever being at Shifty`s residence. I accept no responsibility for any damages, stress or general confusion.
Vote YES for the mandatory 12 month school year.
:rofl
:rofl :rofl :rofl I wouldn't have noticed them over the havoc my five kids were causing. ;)
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The only game Ive flown that long is Falcon 4 now in its F4AF dressing. After the years Ive put in there I play almost without thinking. I react to events like missiles and AI pilots in patterns that I have memorized and know the outcome beforehand. I would get as much satisfaction from a VFR flight in FSX.
Thats why I fly in the IDFL and on Aces High. Whether they are gaming the game or a Aces High vet they are human and can pull unpredictable moves. Much more fun. :aok
I think a vets only arena would lack interest after the newness wore off.
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Originally posted by sax
Need an arena with password only access for 5 year plus vets .
Other than a lack of squeaky range vox voices, what would that accomplish?
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Originally posted by Chalenge
I think a vets only arena would lack interest after the newness wore off.
The amount of old players looking for alternative games or
just plain quitting says otherwise .
Believe it or not the old days when everyone knew everyone were
better .
Hitech did the right thing for his buisiness , this would be a good
buisiness move that wouldn,t require any cash out-put .
There are already two arena,s that get little to no use , give us
one of those .
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Greetings,
The board wargames were killed off by PC's and the internet.
While the PC did have an impact on the gaming industry, it was dead long before the internet had an impact. What kilt it was the lack of beginner games and lack of marketing to the next generation of ppl who could be interested.
They did not die off because those of us who played them didn't invite preteens into our house to run amuck, wreck things, make ungodly noises
Actually, I don't think this is 'your' house. Seems that it is someone else's who has to make a buck in order to keep it out here. . . . .
and game the game.
I seem to remember meeting more than my fair share of 'Rules Lawyers' many years ago. If that ain't 'gaming the game' (remembering those arcane passages only when it benefits you), I don't know what is.
Point is, you remember the gold and forget the grief. We were all young once and if you want a long term life for this product we do need new recruits.
Regards,
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And while new recruits may be frustrating for long time players, truth is that computer games have notoriously short legs. AH is amazing for the way it holds its victims interest for years and years....but even the addict will find that Aces Crack wears out eventually.
I've observed that the guys who keep playing forever -- who've been here from almost the beginning -- tend to be guys who find extra things, relationships or game services (like skinning, TA, SEA, AvA), that keep bringing new challenges and interests.
Without that, even a game as rich and deep as AH is eventually going to feel stale. And in reality that may be many folks' issue, not the gameplay of the arenas.
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Here's another explanation for the decline of boxed games: the generation after mine had a fundamentally different way of interacting with the world, generally choosing media input over text.
In other words, the majority out there has a very short attention span, and wants constant stimulation and variation.
I suspect that has more to do with box games' decline than anything. Even "fast play" games take enormously longer than a computer game, and the "stimulation" you get from a hex game is rooted in imagination and tactical thought. Contrast that with what passes for "strategy" in computer gaming -- RTS's with their emphasis on high speed development followed by a "rush" attack; RPG's with endless advancement treadmills.
Decreased development of attention and imagination skills also explains why other activities of our youth -- like plastic modelling, reading, etc. -- have faded proportionately. And why movies have steadily increased the pace of their storytelling...and much else.
Just a thought.
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Heya Sax... long time no see! ;)
Did u get any of the BBQ?
Anyway... look me up. I'm still having fun although I did have to change the planes I flew. If you get into something with a real good rate of climb you can still have fun showing people that altitude is not necessarily a substitute for skill. :)
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Originally posted by MWL
Actually, I don't think this is 'your' house. Seems that it is someone else's who has to make a buck in order to keep it out here. . . . .
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I never meant to imply that AH was my house. I think you know that though. :rolleyes:
As far as needing board games to attract the next generation.... How is it they're not attracted to the games in the first place?
Did you need a new generation of AH games to attract you? They died because better things came along on PC. It's not like board wargames were an easy sell, it was always difficult to find people who were willing to spend the time and effort to learn the rules, and play the game.
Changing one of the lesser used arenas to one for people who have had an account for years, should not be seen as a threat to the sim. It makes as much sense as having the three empty EW MW and AVA, why not change one to an OFA, Old Farts Arena, or Creaker Arena.
Rules lawyer, another one of your implications. Just because I don't partake of bombing and bailing, or squeeling nonsense on range vox because I find it amusing to annoy others hardly makes me a rules lawyer.
I have nothing against children or youth. However I don't make an effort to seek out their company for my leisure time. If you do, that's your trip.
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Originally posted by sax
The amount of old players looking for alternative games or
just plain quitting says otherwise .
Believe it or not the old days when everyone knew everyone were
better .
Hitech did the right thing for his buisiness , this would be a good
buisiness move that wouldn,t require any cash out-put .
There are already two arena,s that get little to no use , give us
one of those .
Hey, there are THREE! And you'll find more vets in the AvA.
On a more serious note: I don't see this as an age issue. We've got people like Platano and Truekill who are quite young and far more talented than most of the rest of us. We have geezers (no names for this category) who probably are still wondering what you have to do to access the cheat codes. It's an interest issue. People who are really interested in WWII air combat will stick with the game and become vets and play the game right. Those who drifted here for other reasons will drift away soon enough. We just have to survive them. Same thing happened with the board games, and then computers sucked away most of the rest of us because they made it so easy (no more counting up the attack factors in four different stacks while trying not to knock over the defender's stack).
- oldman (Rules Lawyer: "Hey, it's the Viking Ferocity On Turn Four rule. It's right there, on page 23, in the Semi-Advanced Rules you agreed to.")
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^ Yep.
The long term players are the exception more than the rule, and nothing will guarantee that they'll stick around indefinitely. If HT caters to one group over another, he'll eventually cost himself more customers than he'll gain, and this is bad for all involved.
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Originally posted by sax
Need an arena with password only access for 5 year plus vets .
Hitech would probably bring his membership up 300 + members
returnees .
Has to be at least that many gone or going to leave due to
current game play or player issues .
Would also be incentive to continue to pay .
After playing AH for just shy of a year now...something like this would definately push me out of the door. It smacks of the "I'm better than you" syndrome, just beacause of being here for five years...what would make someone here 5 years more vested in the game than someone with only one year?????
Another point....remember....we ALL started as newbs, nuggets and rookies. So have some patience. If it becomes unbearable......turn the game Off.
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It would be nice for subscribers to have H2H rooms with 32 or 64 people enabled. Then the password could be given to people you know enjoy the same aspects of the game as you.
32 people would be just fine for this. I highly doubt you'd ever get more than that on at any one time, and I also highly doubt you'd have much more fun than in there.
Heck, I'd even pay an extra $5 a month for the privilege :)
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Could I get into the 5 years vet arena? I've only been flying AH for 8 days, but I flew AW for over 7 years. (I started before AOL btw, paying for 6 hours of flight time and then $2.95 for every hour after that)
The point is, being a 5 year AH vet doesn't make you a mature person (if you don't believe that, just read the boards), and it doesn't make you a nice person (plenty of jerks that have been paying for years, just like in AW) It certainly doesn't mean you "play" the game right. Sure most people that have been around do, but not all.
More importantly, being young doesn't disqualify you from being mature, knowledgeable or respectful. (I was flying last night and Dexter sounds like is is 14, but he seems to fly the right way, uses the radio properly and shoots down a lot more enemy than me) It just means you squeak on VOX :) (I can live with that, and would think other could too)
I'll tell you what I would like to see.
1. The Vets should be helping those that want to learn
2. Squelching those that don't.
3. And correcting other Vets, when they berate new users, instead of doing either 1 or 2. (Especially on the forums, where new users should be asking questions, even if they are dumb)
This way we help to shape the arenas, encourage new players to continue to shell out their hard earned cash (even if it was hard earned by their mom and dad), and help to maintain a nice level of new people to shoot down.
Lastly, let me echo what has been stated before. In the end is about money. (As it should be, no matter how much HiTech may love doing this, if the money dries up, so does the game.)
Of course "Vets" could just berate me and discount my post, because I've only been around for a week. (No offense to Vets intended, I know most of you strive to help new users.)
Best regards,
Tachus
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Originally posted by 68Boomer
After playing AH for just shy of a year now...something like this would definately push me out of the door. It smacks of the "I'm better than you" syndrome, just beacause of being here for five years...what would make someone here 5 years more vested in the game than someone with only one year?????
Another point....remember....we ALL started as newbs, nuggets and rookies. So have some patience. If it becomes unbearable......turn the game Off.
You make some real good points Boomer. I have to admit I didn't consider it would smack of an elite arena, and I could see how that would fly in the face of guys that have been flying less than that amount. My reasons have nothing to do with this. I've been doing this stuff since 92, and most guys with six months under their belt nowadays are closer to Elite than I will ever be. So well said and point taken.
Personally I'd still like a flying refuge from the kids, again......... Nothing against kids, I just don't want to hang out with 12 year olds, who's fathers should be hanging out with them. I don't buy into this touchy feely "The children are our future"stuff. Until they are grown, feeding, and housing themselves, adults are their future. I guess I've watched Grumpy Old Men too many times. :D
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'Vets' contribute to the lameness of play just as much as n00bs do.
they've had years to perfect their (pick one or more): cherry picking, gang-banging, hording, milkrunning, smack-talking, scorewhoring, win-t3h-war Napolean complexes.
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Originally posted by kamilyun
'Vets' contribute to the lameness of play just as much as n00bs do.
Probably more so, if you think about it. The people I look up to/try to emulate aren't two weekers :)
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Originally posted by Tachus
I'll tell you what I would like to see.
1. The Vets should be helping those that want to learn
2. Squelching those that don't.
3. And correcting other Vets, when they berate new users, instead of doing either 1 or 2. (Especially on the forums, where new users should be asking questions, even if they are dumb)
Good stuff as well Tachus.
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Originally posted by sax
Need an arena with password only access for 5 year plus vets .
Hitech would probably bring his membership up 300 + members
returnees .
Could probably accomplish the same by making an old-timers squadron.
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I believe HT has a good handle on HIS business.
Those that think otherwise should take the big step. So many banter about knowing what is best for other folks companies. HT didn't make his decisions overnight you can bet on it.
If your not totally happy with the direction that Ah is going..... make a decision.... stay or not... then second, if you stay, make the best of what you have. JUST HAVE FUN!
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Originally posted by texasmom
Could probably accomplish the same by making an old-timers squadron.
Yeah, just imagine the squad nights...
Monday (by CO)- Galantamine use for people with vascular dementia
Tuesday (by XO)- Comparison of reported and expected deaths in Sildenafil users
Wednesday (by CO) - Physician career satisfaction across specialties / fall and injury prevention in older people living in residential care facilities
Thursday (by XO) - Effectiveness of pharmacist care for patients with reactive airways disease / screening for osteoporosis in postmenopausal women: recommendations and rationale
Friday - Cancelled due to CO passing away
Saturday - Cancelled due to XO passing away
Sunday- CO ellection cancelled (no members left)
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Originally posted by 2bighorn
Yeah, just imagine the squad nights...
Monday (by CO)- Galantamine use for people with vascular dementia
Tuesday (by XO)- Comparison of reported and expected deaths in Sildenafil users
Wednesday (by CO) - Physician career satisfaction across specialties / fall and injury prevention in older people living in residential care facilities
Thursday (by XO) - Effectiveness of pharmacist care for patients with reactive airways disease / screening for osteoporosis in postmenopausal women: recommendations and rationale
Friday - Cancelled due to CO passing away
Saturday - Cancelled due to XO passing away
Sunday- CO ellection cancelled (no members left)
As funny as it is, we're probably twenty years or less away from this.:lol
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Squelching the idiots? That would take an age. And why should I have to?
Take last night. The utter drivel that found its way onto channel 200 eventually forced me to switch it off. Which is a shame - I like to chat with opponents after a kill.
I have empathy with sax's viewpoint on this and like the mini arena HTH idea. 7 years ago it seemed a more mature crowd. And I'm not necessarily referring to age.
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While in many ways I like the idea. I have been playing for 3 years. I have tried to avoid the 'issues' that are most complained about in newer players. I would be a full 2 years from qualifying for the 'elite' arena. Given the gameplay that this idea would promote in the 'lesser' arena, I expect that people like myself would find the experience unbearable and would not stick around for two more years. I think you might be, as mentioned before, strangling the supply of new competent players. blah blah blah and whatever....
zes
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Originally posted by MWL
Greetings,
How many out there remember the golden age of wargaming? SPI, Avalon Hill, GHQ, etc.....?
What kilt the industry? Lack of new members - specifically teenagers. If we push them out, there will be fewer and fewer players (it's a matter of age) and then there will be no AH.
Squeekers may be a pain, may take a while to instruct, may not play the way we like, but they are the future and will keep this game on the net in the next 10 years. And, I kinda want to play for the next 10 years.....
Regards,
Could not have said it better myself. If you guys really think putting veterans alone in areas segregated is going to work, you guys are smoking crack. How do NewBies get better....Now I will try to be as slow as I can.....b e c a u s e t h e y l e a r n f r o m t h e V e t e r a n s.
Segregate the good sticks so nobody can learn. Yeah sounds like a politician in a school district from the 50's. Freaking stupid morons. DUH
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Originally posted by P47Gra
Could not have said it better myself. If you guys really think putting veterans alone in areas segregated is going to work, you guys are smoking crack. How do NewBies get better....Now I will try to be as slow as I can.....b e c a u s e t h e y l e a r n f r o m t h e V e t e r a n s.
Segregate the good sticks so nobody can learn. Yeah sounds like a politician in a school district from the 50's. Freaking stupid morons. DUH
Slower, you may need to read your own post. :rolleyes:
I don't have a problem with newbies. As far as them getting better I don't judge peoples worth on their skill in an internet airplane game. Most of you even a majority of the newbies can fly rings around me.
My issue is behavior, and yes they do learn from vets. If your post is anything like the example you set for the younger kids, then another generation is is going to suffer from that same 1950's politician.
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Originally posted by P47Gra
Segregate the good sticks so nobody can learn. Yeah sounds like a politician in a school district from the 50's. Freaking stupid morons. DUH
Hey, you just called him a segregationist! And Hitler would have been in favor of segregation, so I'd have to say that this topic has, in fact, already met the conditions of Godwin's Law.
Well played, sir. Well played.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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I can feel the love :)
--Tachus
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He has to actually make a direct comparison, I believe. However, since you have entered the breech, and Hitler has been mentioned specifically, in this instance, the probability of Hitler being mentioned is in fact 1, and I declare this discussion effectively over.
Thank you, and have a pleasant afternoon, meine kameraden.
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I haven't got anything against the game or Hitech or newbies
or any form of life that plays .
Just suggesting an option to keep our vets and hopefully bring
some of em back .
Anyone thinks my idea sucks can .squelch
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Originally posted by Shifty
Personally I'd still like a flying refuge from the kids, again......... Nothing against kids, I just don't want to hang out with 12 year olds, who's fathers should be hanging out with them. I don't buy into this touchy feely "The children are our future"stuff. Until they are grown, feeding, and housing themselves, adults are their future. I guess I've watched Grumpy Old Men too many times. :D
I can certainly understand the "Refuge" feeling. I get that way sometimes myself.
Actually, the expression, "The Children are our Future" is correct, but like everything else in this world , it has been convaluted, twisted and misused. The future is not theirs until we adults make them ready for it. I work with "At Risk" kids on a daily basis and in most every case, the reason for them being "At Risk" is that somehwere along the line, some "Adult" has let them down.
in return Sir....See ya up in the Blue!
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Believe it or not the old days when everyone knew everyone were
better .
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yeah, good point, which is actualy the real problem here for most vets.
start getting to know everyone again and the problem is gone.
being 'antisocial' because you're afraid everyone you meet will be a whiney child does not help anyone get to know everyone.
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Batfink is probable right ...it really isn't hard to just be nice play nice..and die nice.....all it really takes is checking the ego at the door before you come on in..think we all agree there is enouph real jerks in the real world.
999000
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Originally posted by 999000
Batfink is probable right ...it really isn't hard to just be nice play nice..and die nice.....all it really takes is checking the ego at the door before you come on in..think we all agree there is enouph real jerks in the real world.
999000
Indeed.
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Question to anyone who's been around for a while continuously... has the collective level of skill gone down? I've been gone for a few years at least, and now that I'm back and flying again it seems a lot easier than it was in the past. Perhaps I've lost some bad habits that got me killed more back in the day. Whatever the case, I'm having fun again, though, and that's the important part.
Dowding, you still Dowding in the game? Haven't seen ya on, but may be a Euro time versus US time thing. I haven't seen Toad either, but I know he's old and decrepit, and probably is in bed by 6pm. :D
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So will this new arena require a Doctor's note and an active prescription for blood pressure or cholesterol lowering medication to get in? :)
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I'm all for a .tard command that votes to squelch and otherwise flag a player if a certain percentage of users do it. Wouldn't this solve your problem without the downsides?
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Greetings,
So will this new arena require a Doctor's note and an active prescription for blood pressure or cholesterol lowering medication to get in?
Naw, just a perscription for viagra or other 'supplements' . . . .
Regards,
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
yeah, good point, which is actualy the real problem here for most vets.
start getting to know everyone again and the problem is gone.
being 'antisocial' because you're afraid everyone you meet will be a whiney child does not help anyone get to know everyone.
Easier said then done for me these days. Probably why I dont enjoy the game as much as I used too. Maybe I need re-education?:noid
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maybe you should go find a girlfriend
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Originally posted by Slash27
Easier said then done for me these days. Probably why I dont enjoy the game as much as I used too. Maybe I need re-education?:noid
its piss easy slash, and you sure dont need help making friends sir. 100 year old can be 'friendly' to a 10 year old even if they have nothing in common.
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I think the best idea has alreday been brought up. If you dont like younger players, hang with older players.
I dont think that age necessarily has anything to do with being ..well..you know. I know some younger players that are just fine, as well as some older folks that I'd like to add to the permaquelch ini file if we had that option. But then again, I dont hang out on 200 for my social life. Hehe.
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Hey SOB. :D Yeah, I'm Dowding in game as well.
The reason you probably haven't seen me is that I've practising my luftwobble tactics ready for the upcoming scenario - i.e. flying at silly altitudes and sneaking the odd kill when my skill and the opportunity converge (not very often).
I saw Toad the other day, but I guess its a timezone thing. Damn the spherical nature of the Earth!
Flying bish as it's the side of choice for my squad, 9 GIAP.
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Originally posted by SOB
Question to anyone who's been around for a while continuously... has the collective level of skill gone down? I've been gone for a few years at least, and now that I'm back and flying again it seems a lot easier than it was in the past. Perhaps I've lost some bad habits that got me killed more back in the day. Whatever the case, I'm having fun again, though, and that's the important part.
Dowding, you still Dowding in the game? Haven't seen ya on, but may be a Euro time versus US time thing. I haven't seen Toad either, but I know he's old and decrepit, and probably is in bed by 6pm. :D
I've been pretty much on strait through since tour 11 I think.... old age, the memory is the second thing to go :O
I don't think its "the kids" so much as the "type" of player that has caused the change. In the old days it was mostly WWII buffs. Whether you were hard cord (full historical, fight to live and RTB), or just nostalgic and loved the era, pretty much 99% of the people were on the same page.
Today, due to HTC advertising and trying to get more customers ( which I can't blame them for) you get an influx of people just looking for another game. Those tired of running around with their wizards and elves casting the biggest spell they can buy. They are looking for something different, and in AH2 they find it.
They don't look at the "game" with the same reverence us old timers do. They "spoil" the feel of the game, by "gaming the game" to win at all costs, cutting corners and such. Never slowing down to learn the "proper" way to fly like our old heros use to in the wars.
Not all old timers fly to RTB, but all fly to "take as many with me as I can". That means learning how to survive, and maneuver well enough to spoil the enemies shot. In stead we have the horde flying the planes that go the fastest ( to catch anyone, NOT to run away), and with the biggest guns (to be the first to do the most damage), doggedly chasing down enemies while not caring how many rounds some one is pumping into them from behind. Throwing all caution to the wind as it were, to be the guy the kills the bad guy.
The smart flier these days is the cherry picker, circle above the horde, pick a target and drop in on them. They won't maneuver out of the way (they are too intent on there target), pop them, and zoom climb. It doesn't take the same skill as the old days, there are a lot of easy pickin's out there.
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The smart flier these days is the cherry picker, circle above the horde, pick a target and drop in on them. They won't maneuver out of the way (they are too intent on there target), pop them, and zoom climb. It doesn't take the same skill as the old days, there are a lot of easy pickin's out there.
I agree with that. I've been flying the Dora over the last few weeks and I typically arrive above a furball and then just dip in and out of it. I don't kill a spectacular number, but the opportunities are a plenty. I'm just a crap shot at the moment. ;)
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Originally posted by LePaul
So will this new arena require a Doctor's note and an active prescription for blood pressure or cholesterol lowering medication to get in? :)
Now, Now Guys
I have hit a milestone in my life. I actually had to have a stress test, and go on BP medicine so I could pass my Class I Flight physical. Let the young ones flame my arse in a dweeb plane. I will go on making everones life more pleasant bus driving you guys around. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
BTW those that compared my comment about segregating AH veterans from newer pilots to Hitler is sick and demented. Hope to see you guys in the air. You all know where I will be if you want.
JUGMAN
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Part of the cha6nge in "culture" may be, at least in part, due to the steep learning curve involved in the game.
When I stopped flying AW, I was often involved in "missions" I would join up with people capturing bases, fly a gooney sometimes, take some eggs on my 38 for the ack at a base that had troops in bound... etc. etc... You get the idea.
Well I just started flying AH and even with all the years I spent in AW, it's still a challenge in the beginning and so I do none of those things I listed above.
Last night, twice there were people BEGGING for knights to join a mission. A number of different calls went out about base defense. Several times people needed, troops or ords, or what have you. So what did I do you might ask? Well, at first I thought, maybe I should help out.... Then I thought, No I need to keep practicing, and I don't want stop what I'm doing to go help them. Plus I really don't know anyone yet. Yes a few names from the AW days, but for the most part I don't know anyone. So if a "friend" asks me for help, I would have helped, but since it's just a stranger... I just keep on doing my own thing.
In time, I'm sure I'll make plenty of friends... and I'll get back up to speed in my plane... and I'll start becoming more engaged in the types of things that make this a great game... Hopefully a good number of the new players will too.
Best regards,
--Tachus
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...and shortly after I post about how much better I seem to be (or how much worse everyone else seems to be), I'm in the arena flying my trusty 51b and run into AKAK in a 38, I don't know what type because I was too busy getting my bellybutton handed to me to notice...not once, but twice. Always when I've seen a P-38, I'd start to salivate, knowing that I'd soon be dumping lead into that big ugly target before watching it flutter helplessly downward minus it's rear. Suddenly, they don't look so appealing as targets.
I also ran into a lala (i forget the pilot) that didn't run off, and ended up in a slow and low turn fight with him that seemed to last forever. I pulled off the kill with a couple of HO/near HO shots, but it could've gone either way. Left me shaking...that's good stuff! :)
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Better yet, make a fourth country in each arena and put the vets there.
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^^ with no killshooter.
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Originally posted by 999000
Batfink is probable right ...it really isn't hard to just be nice play nice..and die nice.....all it really takes is checking the ego at the door before you come on in..think we all agree there is enouph real jerks in the real world.
999000
WTG 999000!!!!!
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Originally posted by SOB
I haven't seen Toad either, but I know he's old and decrepit, and probably is in bed by 6pm. :D
I am old and decrepit for sure. It is amazing I can even line up a kill anymore the way my hands shake and the way my vision is down to next to nothing.
However, I scratch a few out of the sky now and then by accident and there's always the proxy kills that I get because I can barely see the trees.
If you want to find me, I'll be in MW IF there's a decent fight going on. CV battle and I'm there till some doof sinks the boat and ends the fun. Two close fields with just a couple of opponents is just as good. If it's milkmaid night in the dairy barn though, I will go to LW.
Same deal in LW. I scan both arenas and find one with a CV battle or two close fields going at it and then play in that one until the fight dies out. Then it is back to scouting the 4 arenas for an air battle.
That's how I spend my old age.
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Originally posted by moot
Better yet, make a fourth country in each arena and put the vets there.
Originally posted by B@tfinkV
^^ with no killshooter.
Okay, now I like this combination. :aok
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Originally posted by LePaul
So will this new arena require a Doctor's note and an active prescription for blood pressure or cholesterol lowering medication to get in? :)
Nope , just bring your own booze . One thing
I did forget to ask for tho is bigger text on 200 .
I'd like to be able to move closer to the screen .
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Originally posted by 999000
Batfink is probable right ...it really isn't hard to just be nice play nice..and die nice.....all it really takes is checking the ego at the door before you come on in..think we all agree there is enouph real jerks in the real world.
999000
Well said sir <>
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Originally posted by Toad
I am old and decrepit for sure. It is amazing I can even line up a kill anymore the way my hands shake and the way my vision is down to next to nothing.
However, I scratch a few out of the sky now and then by accident and there's always the proxy kills that I get because I can barely see the trees.
If you want to find me, I'll be in MW IF there's a decent fight going on. CV battle and I'm there till some doof sinks the boat and ends the fun. Two close fields with just a couple of opponents is just as good. If it's milkmaid night in the dairy barn though, I will go to LW.
Same deal in LW. I scan both arenas and find one with a CV battle or two close fields going at it and then play in that one until the fight dies out. Then it is back to scouting the 4 arenas for an air battle.
That's how I spend my old age.
you forgot to mention incontinency.
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Piddle-paks! :)