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Title: 20K over their base,20K over my base
Post by: straffo on August 17, 2007, 02:17:05 AM
is this the new way to fight in aces high ???

I only see a bunch a wimp lately.
Title: 20K over their base,20K over my base
Post by: Anyone on August 17, 2007, 02:35:08 AM
what arena are you flying in?
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Post by: DaddyAck on August 17, 2007, 04:06:11 AM
I rather ejoy fighing at altitude.  I see nothing wrong with it at all.
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Post by: Masherbrum on August 17, 2007, 06:02:54 AM
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Originally posted by DaddyAck
I rather ejoy fighing at altitude.  I see nothing wrong with it at all.
Exactly.
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Post by: Lusche on August 17, 2007, 07:36:48 AM
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Originally posted by DaddyAck
I rather ejoy fighing at altitude.  I see nothing wrong with it at all.


You seem not to know that the honorable pilots of WWII never climbed above 8k ;)
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Post by: straffo on August 17, 2007, 08:16:45 AM
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Originally posted by DaddyAck
I rather ejoy fighing at altitude.  I see nothing wrong with it at all.


You don't go below 20K (except for landing ?)

pfffff!!!

to be more precise what I've seen was :
some guys at 20K over my base not engaging me when I was 12K below
and exactly the same when I was over their base.
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Post by: VansCrew1 on August 17, 2007, 08:18:42 AM
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Originally posted by DaddyAck
I rather ejoy fighing at altitude.  I see nothing wrong with it at all.




lol im going to be flying 30K in a K4 so if you see me in the MA doing that BearKats told me to. :aok :aok


:noid :noid
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Post by: 1Boner on August 17, 2007, 08:42:15 AM
Been noticing alot of alt monkeys lately too!

If you fly below 12k you will become fodder for the flocks of ever present p-51s.

Even if I happen to come upon a co-alt con, most seem to run away only to return shortly with an alt advantage.

Not sure if they are new guys or timid "aces".

I did however capture this shot of one of them running for an alt advantage.


(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1294/06aug14superkidwa3.jpg)





Frustrated,

Boner
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Post by: Speed55 on August 17, 2007, 09:05:27 AM
Big scenario is coming up.. alot of guys from both sides are getting practice in.
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Post by: Sweet2th on August 17, 2007, 09:42:04 AM
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Originally posted by straffo
You don't go below 20K (except for landing ?)

 


My hard deck is generally 10-K.I look for the cherry pickers above that and bombers.But not so much bombers anymore for the lazer beam guns are getting rediculously to accurate, even though in real life they weren't that good, i guess HTC had to give the toolshedders something to defend themselves.
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Post by: BMathis on August 17, 2007, 09:51:58 AM
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Originally posted by 1Boner
Been noticing alot of alt monkeys lately too!

If you fly below 12k you will become fodder for the flocks of ever present p-51s.

Even if I happen to come upon a co-alt con, most seem to run away only to return shortly with an alt advantage.

Not sure if they are new guys or timid "aces".

I did however capture this shot of one of them running for an alt advantage.


Frustrated,

Boner

I saw this Last night many, many times. It's getting Old, these ponys are more like puss**s.
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Post by: 68ROX on August 17, 2007, 09:58:29 AM
About three weeks ago on a Sunday afternoon, I decided to do a little research on the dreaded disease known as "AltMonkeyism".

I stripped down a P-47 and added 3 exernal fuel tanks, turning it into a flying gas can.

I first flew over the bishop front at 31K.  Very uneventful.  From one end of the front to the other I found little up that high except one set of B24's at 25K heading back to bomb our strats.



I then re-upped and flew over the rook front at 31K....I found:

3 sets of heavy bombers 25K+ (B-17's and B24's)
3 sets of heavy bombers 30K+ (B24's)
3 P51's (30K+)
2 Corsairs (30K+)
1 P47N (30K+)

I was jumped by the two corsairs and one pony who were at least 3 K higher than my 31K, and was killed.

I dunno...it could possibly be squeekers who will hopefully dissapear at the end of the month...but AltMonkeyism is a pretty sad disease to have.


68ROX
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Post by: gpwurzel on August 17, 2007, 10:05:42 AM
Lol, I'm lucky if I get to 10K before I get stuck in....unless I'm on a buff run.....then I grab as much alt as I can....mainly cos I suck in bombers and need a lot of time to set up, grab guns etc...plus of course it gets interesting watching people trying to grab alt over a short space of time to engage.....and I do like a good giggle now and again...


That said, it takes a lot less time to skydive down to chute opening time before I get to the tower when I'm at less than 10k....lol...


Wurzel
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Post by: Lusche on August 17, 2007, 10:10:09 AM
For most people:
AltMonkey = any con higher then myself

I have been called AltMonkey when flying at 8K, and I have been called AltMonkey by cons flying at 25K who just happend to be 2k below me :D

There are many reasons why people fly that high: Cowardice, not yet knowing what's a good alt to be at, using the strenghts of a plane (not everybody flies a La7 which shines below 10K), hunting buffs, eveading buff hunters, picking other alt monkeys, pretending to pick other alt monkeys, and so on...

If you are at 10K and see a con at 30K, you have much less to worry as if he was at 12K. If he attacks you, 9 of 10 times he will be way too fast for any successful attack

Conclusion: Fly what you like, when you like, and where you like. Don't worry to much about other people.
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Post by: Castedo on August 17, 2007, 04:14:14 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche
For most people:
AltMonkey = any con higher then myself

I have been called AltMonkey when flying at 8K, and I have been called AltMonkey by cons flying at 25K who just happend to be 2k below me :D

There are many reasons why people fly that high: Cowardice, not yet knowing what's a good alt to be at, using the strenghts of a plane (not everybody flies a La7 which shines below 10K), hunting buffs, eveading buff hunters, picking other alt monkeys, pretending to pick other alt monkeys, and so on...

If you are at 10K and see a con at 30K, you have much less to worry as if he was at 12K. If he attacks you, 9 of 10 times he will be way too fast for any successful attack

Conclusion: Fly what you like, when you like, and where you like. Don't worry to much about other people.


Agree with all above.  However depending on the plane alt is a must.  5K over the one to be engaged the best, be it at 5k, 10K, 15K and so on.
That said, I must add that rooks do exagerate, never found a rook below me, they are always higher.
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Post by: Gulp on August 17, 2007, 04:23:07 PM
1/2 the people complaining on this board are ticked because AH & tactics don't resemble what happened in WWII, the other half of the complainers don't like it because AH & tactics do resemble what happened in WWII.
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Post by: Vudak on August 17, 2007, 04:24:08 PM
I usually climb to between 12-20k per sortie these days.  It's about the only place in the MA you can hope to find a 1v1 or 1v2.

Then again, there's not too many sorties that don't end with my flying on the deck before too long
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Post by: whiteman on August 17, 2007, 05:21:45 PM
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Originally posted by Speed55
Big scenario is coming up.. alot of guys from both sides are getting practice in.


thats what i've been trying to do, and i'm learning i really don't like the 51.
Title: 20K over their base,20K over my base
Post by: TalonX on August 17, 2007, 05:38:44 PM
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Originally posted by 68ROX
About three weeks ago on a Sunday afternoon, I decided to do a little research on the dreaded disease known as "AltMonkeyism".

I stripped down a P-47 and added 3 exernal fuel tanks, turning it into a flying gas can.

I first flew over the bishop front at 31K.  Very uneventful.  From one end of the front to the other I found little up that high except one set of B24's at 25K heading back to bomb our strats.



I then re-upped and flew over the rook front at 31K....I found:

3 sets of heavy bombers 25K+ (B-17's and B24's)
3 sets of heavy bombers 30K+ (B24's)
3 P51's (30K+)
2 Corsairs (30K+)
1 P47N (30K+)

I was jumped by the two corsairs and one pony who were at least 3 K higher than my 31K, and was killed.

I dunno...it could possibly be squeekers who will hopefully dissapear at the end of the month...but AltMonkeyism is a pretty sad disease to have.


68ROX





I am sorry, but I just don't buy it.  I have flown many flights buff hunting at 17 to 20 K and RARELY see anyone higher, and never fellow rooks over rook land at that alt.

To allege 30+ K fighters just cruising around seems a tad hard to swallow.   Take a corsair to 34K and fly it.  It's not fun...not even in a 51.

Good story though.....

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Post by: 68ROX on August 17, 2007, 05:51:02 PM
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Originally posted by TalonX


I am sorry, but I just don't buy it.  I have flown many flights buff hunting at 17 to 20 K and RARELY see anyone higher, and never fellow rooks over rook land at that alt.

To allege 30+ K fighters just cruising around seems a tad hard to swallow.   Take a corsair to 34K and fly it.  It's not fun...not even in a 51.

Good story though.....




Take up a P47 with droptanks sometime.

Watch the dar.

You will find PLENTY of your fellow rooks 25, 30, and 35K.



68ROX
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Post by: Lusche on August 17, 2007, 06:05:44 PM
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Originally posted by 68ROX
Take up a P47 with droptanks sometime.

Watch the dar.

You will find PLENTY of your fellow rooks 25, 30, and 35K.



68ROX


As someone who jumps the fence from time to time to fly with other countries, I just can say: You will find Rooks, Bish and Knights at 25k. No big difference.
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Post by: Nimrod45 on August 17, 2007, 07:18:05 PM
I am with you on this one Lusche.  Fly what you want when you want and where you want.  What a lame thing to complain about.  Just like people complaining about people flying spit 16s, LA-7s, and Nikis.  Give me a break they could fly them to if they wanted.
Title: I stand by what I said
Post by: TalonX on August 17, 2007, 07:44:17 PM
You might find a few of any country at any alt...but not over 30K......except in extreme rare cases.

In the end, I ask, "So what?"

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Post by: SteveBailey on August 17, 2007, 08:18:16 PM
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Originally posted by 1Boner

If you fly below 12k you will become fodder for the flocks of ever present p-51s.
Boner


I fly a 51, dont' go above 8k and I fly for whatever team has the fewest numbers.  I guess I am an exception to the flock? Oh ya, and I have fun. :)

Most p51's aren't much of a threat to shoot you down, are they? I am of the opinion(feel free to disagree, it's merely an opinion) that many of the 51 fliers are relatively unskilled, compared to the rest of the average guy in the MA.  Of course their are some notable exceptions who are adept in 51 these days, my buddies Skat and Bucky are a couple of come to mind off the top of my head. Good sticks and good guys both.  No slight at other accomplished sticks, just don't feel like typing a long list.


Steve
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Post by: hubsonfire on August 17, 2007, 09:02:36 PM
I've also found people at 30K plus, but the only reason I've been that high, is going afk for a beer, and a leak, and maybe stepping outside for a smoke, then another beer, then oh dogfights is on, sweet it's that crazy IAF guy... etc etc.

I have to wonder if all those other dorks have similar routines, and if we  don't all wind up in the ackackosphere quite by accident.
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Post by: Iron_Cross on August 18, 2007, 03:08:06 AM
Yes I fly  buffs at 20k simply because I don't get intercepted all that often.  If you must it is a survival thing.  Everybody else is furballing on the deck.

As to fighters, yes at that altitude I don't have to worry about eLgays or HOicanes.  60% of my frustration for this game can be attributed to those 2 fighters.  At that altitude the P-47 starts to come into its own, and really shine.
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Post by: Hamish on August 18, 2007, 10:42:58 AM
One of the best fights I ever had was at 25K+ in a P-38 vs. 2 P-51D's I was flying solo, they were winging, and even though I lost, it was a good dogfight.

I just started flying again after taking about a 3 year break from the game. I find about the only way to get a decent dogfight these days is to fly around between 15 and 20k and look for that loner circling a furball. I usually end up losing because, well, I still suck, but hey, at least it's fun.

The reality of this game is you're not going to find realistic WW2 fights except in a scenario. If that's what you want, fly the special events, that's what I used to live for. After all is said and done, you can't really complain too much about the MA... it is what it is, and it won't change.

Regards,