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Post by: Rolex on August 17, 2007, 12:38:07 PM
Do you have autistic tendencies?

Click me to take the test (http://aq.server8.org/)

My score was 21.
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Post by: texasmom on August 17, 2007, 12:49:42 PM
My score was 9.
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Post by: Ripsnort on August 17, 2007, 12:51:36 PM
9
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Post by: Ripsnort on August 17, 2007, 12:52:09 PM
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Originally posted by texasmom
My score was 9.
Awe crap! Does that mean I like Lucy? :mad:
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Post by: texasmom on August 17, 2007, 12:56:38 PM
:p
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Post by: SirLoin on August 17, 2007, 12:59:17 PM
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Post by: soda72 on August 17, 2007, 01:01:57 PM
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Post by: storch on August 17, 2007, 01:07:29 PM
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Post by: Terror on August 17, 2007, 01:23:41 PM
Plain 10.  "low"

T
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Post by: forHIM on August 17, 2007, 01:29:23 PM
spaz case -- 31.
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Post by: AWMac on August 17, 2007, 01:57:24 PM
32

Now I'm scared.

It said 32 was Very High...  Crap... as in Very High compared to What???

Breathe, Crap I can't Breathe...... Okay, I'm Okay...

Okay, Very High... I'm Very High.

Ohhh~Ummm.... Very High... Relax... Ohhhh~Ummmmm.....Okay...

And this thread was about?

:huh

Mac

I took it 3 more times...

65  WTF is "Seek Help Immediately" mean? and "Do you own guns?"  

73 "Postal Canidate"?

I have never applied for a position in a Post Office...Who the Hell started this thread?

Errrrr..... Wait I took the wrong test....

Never Mind.

Mac

:huh
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Post by: JB88 on August 17, 2007, 02:01:43 PM
it say's that i am an excellent driver.
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Post by: ChickenHawk on August 17, 2007, 02:04:34 PM
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Post by: mentalguy on August 17, 2007, 02:06:11 PM
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Am I the only one here who does have Autism?
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Post by: JB88 on August 17, 2007, 02:08:39 PM
<---- excellent driver !!!

:mad:
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Post by: Ripsnort on August 17, 2007, 03:00:00 PM
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Originally posted by mentalguy
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Am I the only one here who does have Autism?
I was told I was autistic when I was a child but then I started sniffing the paint thinner.
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Post by: DYNAMITE on August 17, 2007, 03:09:53 PM
I'm definitely not wearing my Batman underwear... definitely.





7






Is it time for Wapner yet?
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Post by: cav58d on August 17, 2007, 03:11:07 PM
15...Looks like i'm an average woman.
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Post by: Maverick on August 17, 2007, 03:11:54 PM
16 here. It was easy to spot the trend to the questions that would give the diagnosis.
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Post by: eskimo2 on August 17, 2007, 03:24:56 PM
I wouldn’t worry too much if you score high.  I’m convinced that there are many high functioning fully assimilated folks in many occupations and walks of life who may technically be autistic or have Aspergers; many others may be at various levels under the “cut offs”.  So what?  If you are happy with your life and what you do, don’t let it bother you.  Knowing, however, may explain much about why you are the way you are.  If you have a child who exhibits autistic traits, seek a diagnosis and held as soon as possible; early interventions often make a huge difference.  If you are an adult and you think you may be autistic, you may have adapted quite a bit all by yourself.
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Post by: clerick on August 17, 2007, 03:24:58 PM
28.... Is there a group for people like me, like MENSA is for arrogant smart people? :)
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Post by: rabbidrabbit on August 17, 2007, 03:26:28 PM
6...
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Post by: MrBill on August 17, 2007, 03:27:05 PM
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Originally posted by mentalguy
41

Am I the only one here who does have Autism?


No you are not ... I got the same 41 ... I was officially diagnosed by the military in 1962 ... before that I was just thought of as slow.
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Post by: Russian on August 17, 2007, 03:32:12 PM
17...
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Post by: Speed55 on August 17, 2007, 03:35:32 PM
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Post by: Ripsnort on August 17, 2007, 03:50:50 PM
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Originally posted by eskimo2
I wouldn’t worry too much if you score high.  I’m convinced that there are many high functioning fully assimilated folks in many occupations and walks of life who may technically be autistic or have Aspergers; many others may be at various levels under the “cut offs”.  So what?  If you are happy with your life and what you do, don’t let it bother you.  Knowing, however, may explain much about why you are the way you are.  If you have a child who exhibits autistic traits, seek a diagnosis and held as soon as possible; early interventions often make a huge difference.  If you are an adult and you think you may be autistic, you may have adapted quite a bit all by yourself.
Agreed.  Some of the best "Code monkeys" I know in IT are borderline Autistic. They're very anti-social, and flourish in a problem-solving environment that requires repetitive calculation.
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Post by: FBBone on August 17, 2007, 04:04:02 PM
22, I'm gettin there!   {rocking back and forth}
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Post by: eskimo2 on August 17, 2007, 04:08:37 PM
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Originally posted by MrBill
No you are not ... I got the same 41 ... I was officially diagnosed by the military in 1962 ... before that I was just thought of as slow.


There you go: diagnosed with autism yet a member of the Army.  Did your parents or teachers ever show any concern that you may be Autistic?  By “slow”, was that mostly delayed language and social skills?  I bet you were “normal” in most other areas.  Do you think you’ve lead a relatively normal life?  Did you ever marry and or have children?

I’ve studied Autism as a teacher and have a favorite student who is autistic.  Recently my sister’s 3 year old daughter has been diagnosed with autism and her little brother also is showing signs; I’ve been studying it even more since then.
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Post by: 1K3 on August 17, 2007, 04:14:07 PM
32

I'm scared man:noid
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Post by: Boroda on August 17, 2007, 04:18:59 PM
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I tried to answer honestly, this test should be quite easy to fake.
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Post by: Ripsnort on August 17, 2007, 04:44:00 PM
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Originally posted by Boroda
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I tried to answer honestly, this test should be quite easy to fake.
A truly full-blown autistic person would most likely not even be able to take the test, nor complete it, without help.
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Post by: MrBill on August 17, 2007, 05:13:35 PM
Hi eskimo2,

Officially "a visual autistic savant with moderate oral and social disfunction" led to a interesting stint in military intelligence as a trained observer.

Luckily, early in life, I was in a two room schoolhouse (grades 1-4 were in one room 5-8 in the other) and had a teacher, who along with my parents, gave me a lot of leeway and support. I was fairly normal in most respects just had problems with verbal communication that led to a lack of social mingling.

Life, I would say, has been usually abnormal ... my ability to "SEE" things and patterns that others could not has led to a lot of strife ... expert committees hate to be proven wrong after spending x dollars and time then end up doing what they were told needed to be done months ago. ;) hehehe

Married a woman who could not have children, but we have managed to adopt or foster 12 boys and 2 girls ... only one did not have a learning disability or physical challenge.

I can say with absolute certainty I have never wished, even for a minute, that I could be like everyone else. I have and continue to enjoy my life fully.

adit:

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A truly full-blown autistic person would most likely not even be able to take the test, nor complete it, without help.


Ignorance must indeed be bliss.
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Post by: storch on August 17, 2007, 05:27:13 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
A truly full-blown autistic person would most likely not even be able to take the test, nor complete it, without help.
I must be autistic because by the 25th question I was bored to tears.  I'm still sobbing a bit now
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Post by: Ripsnort on August 17, 2007, 06:30:01 PM
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Originally posted by MrBill



Ignorance must indeed be bliss.
Yes it must be, Mr. Bill.


I'm speaking of high functioning autism. I am not speaking of the misconception that they are unable to finish the test due to a low IQ.  I am speaking about things such as distractions while testing, hyperactivity and the need to usually have a visual input to help clarify a question.  How do I know this? One of my nephews has high functioning autism.

Sounds like your form is quite mild comparatively. :rolleyes:
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Post by: Wes14 on August 17, 2007, 07:17:13 PM
24 :confused:
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Post by: Phaser11 on August 17, 2007, 07:48:14 PM
12  nornal again.
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Post by: MrBill on August 17, 2007, 07:51:30 PM
sigh ... here I go again ... I may actually be 10 times worse than your nephew, or 10 times milder, but the manifestation is different. Rainman is a portrayal of a single case not a general overall trait.

If you truly had a real clue, the first two things you would know is:
a) No two people with ASDs will have the same symptoms.
b) The thinking and learning abilities of people with ASDs can vary – from gifted to severely challenged.

But as one who has spent 60 years living with ADS ... through all the treatments, drugs, therapy groups et el ... I am always pleased to discuss it with someone who has a relative with whom they do not live 7 x 24 that understands it far better than I ... who knows they may have the miracle cure.

I have worked with mathematicians that think I am a genius (I'm Not) and I've worked with plumbers who wonder how I dress each morning without injuring myself.

As stated "I have never wished, even for a minute, that I could be like everyone else."
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Post by: Meatwad on August 17, 2007, 08:06:13 PM
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Do you know what autistic is?

Yeah.

You know that word?

Yeah.

Are you autistic?

I don't think so. No. Definitely not. Def...def...def...def........ DEFinately not.

97X, bam! The future of rock 'n' roll. 97X, bam! The future of rock 'n' roll. 97X, bam! The future of rock 'n' roll
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Post by: 68bigtex on August 17, 2007, 08:12:18 PM
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Post by: eskimo2 on August 17, 2007, 08:52:00 PM
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Originally posted by MrBill

Married a woman who could not have children, but we have managed to adopt or foster 12 boys and 2 girls ... only one did not have a learning disability or physical challenge.


14 Kids!  Holy cow!  Now that’s something you don’t hear everyday.  What was the age range of your kids when you adopted/fostered them?   What was the most that you had at once?  How the heck did you manage; I’m struggling with three.  All but one had some form of disability; how are they doing today?  (OK that’s a huge question, probably requiring at least 14 sentences to answer.)  If you’re willing to tell about your parenting experiences I’d love to read about it.
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Post by: Rolex on August 17, 2007, 09:17:17 PM
MrBill: I'm not sure about your autism diagnosis, but you're definitely a saint in my eyes.
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Post by: Maverick on August 17, 2007, 09:25:58 PM
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MrBill: I'm not sure about your autism diagnosis, but you're definitely a saint in my eyes.


I'll second this in spades.

Outstanding job.
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Post by: MrBill on August 17, 2007, 10:09:18 PM
Not a problem at all I have posted most of this (all or Part) in other forums at one time or another. Little has to do with my parenting as I was the shadow parent ... always available in case of emergency ... but quite often away on a job site somewhere. (The joys of contract consulting)
My real contribution was "look at me, if I can do it so can you!" and when we were together they were my sole focus.
The hardest part was convincing them that they were all family and could (and needed to) depend on each other ... and they were American ... Black, White, Asian, Indian, Jew or Gentile they were now family. There is no feeling in the whole world better than when your child says "dad I get it now".

The most we ever had, in house, at one time was 8 ... but that was only for 2 months.

The youngest we took was 6 the oldest was 16.

Two have died ... one was a "crack" baby that we took when he was 9 ... he over dosed, at 11, with his friends. Suffice to say the ones you lose affect you the most.
The other died in a single car accident ... fell asleep at the wheel driving home at 4 am after pulling a double and a half ... he was 19.

Our current girl 11 has no disabilities ... if you discount that her whole family was killed in the war ... we have adopted her ... 2 years now ... she is becoming quite the little lady.
The other girl married and moved to Washington State with her husband.

Two are air traffic controllers, one works tower at 29 palms, the other works both domestic and ocean out of Oak Center.
One is an astrophysicist at Berkeley.
One is a heavy equipment operator.
one is a corporate law advisor in Italy
two are computer geeks after their dad.
one puts up and takes down the "For Sale" signs for a real estate company.
One owns his own small business.
One is working for me in the bio diesel plant. It is not mine, I am just a major stockholder.

For those of you who can relate all but one came from the San Leandro - Oakland border wars.
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Post by: MrBill on August 17, 2007, 10:15:31 PM
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Originally posted by Rolex
MrBill: I'm not sure about your autism diagnosis, but you're definitely a saint in my eyes.


Hehehe ... Thank you!
I'm quite sure if you attempted to have a conversation with me your doubts would be over. I can write stuff down with no problem ... but I still can not make my mouth say what I want it to.
I've gotten real good at the knowing look and nodding a lot to make up for it. :D:D:D
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Post by: Maverick on August 17, 2007, 11:09:43 PM
It's great that there is so much to non verbal communication isn't it.  :aok
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Post by: Ripsnort on August 17, 2007, 11:27:39 PM
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Originally posted by MrBill
sigh ... here I go again ... I may actually be 10 times worse than your nephew, or 10 times milder, but the manifestation is different. Rainman is a portrayal of a single case not a general overall trait.


No one here made a rainman comparison except yourself. Quite the opposite, I mentioned above that some of the more brilliant programmers I've met are excellent at problem solving.

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If you truly had a real clue, the first two things you would know is:
a) No two people with ASDs will have the same symptoms.
b) The thinking and learning abilities of people with ASDs can vary – from gifted to severely challenged.


Though I've only met 3 people diagnosed with autism (and none were posting on a BBS telling people they had no clue :rolleyes: ) I will have to take your "word" for it.  They were charming people, with never displaying a defensive stance such as yours. I'm not doubting your autism, but apparently your manners are telling of your defensive stance you taken since childhood and living with your autism.  Perhaps you just don't like me all these years, I hope thats the case rather than an automatic defensive stance on the autism issue. You should feel good about yourself without having to resort to personal attacks.

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But as one who has spent 60 years living with ADS ... through all the treatments, drugs, therapy groups et el ... I am always pleased to discuss it with someone who has a relative with whom they do not live 7 x 24 that understands it far better than I ... who knows they may have the miracle cure.


I don't think I stated I know autism better than you, just my experiences with those who were inflicted. Perhaps you could show me the post where I stated I knew it better than you? Thanks in advance.

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I have worked with mathematicians that think I am a genius (I'm Not) and I've worked with plumbers who wonder how I dress each morning without injuring myself.


Could be the plumbers put you in defensive mode that you're showing in the sharp attacks of this thread against me?  I'm no enemy of yours MrBill, just stating my experiences of the people I've had the pleasure to be around that had autism,in my life, up to this point....

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As stated "I have never wished, even for a minute, that I could be like everyone else."
Good for you, nor should you be.
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Post by: JB88 on August 17, 2007, 11:33:24 PM
<--- made the rain man comments.

sorry mr. bill.  it was in poor taste.

i scored a 27.  i was surprized that i was in the above average category.

found it rather odd.
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Post by: Ripsnort on August 17, 2007, 11:39:20 PM
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Originally posted by JB88
<--- made the rain man comments.

sorry mr. bill.  it was in poor taste.

i scored a 27.  i was surprized that i was in the above average category.

found it rather odd.


Oh, didn't see that. I stand corrected.
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Post by: JB73 on August 18, 2007, 12:02:12 AM
I have to say the whole "autism" is an epidemic in our country is BS...

I just think more people have developed different types of interaction, and the way we grow up in the amazingly different types of environment challenges how we relate to someone from an entirely different / opposite way of growing up / learning to relate.


with the way people move about across the world now compared to even 50 years ago is astounding. the "different" type of people one meets in life today is nothing like back in oh the 50's or so.


that may artificially draw out responses that are different from the norm.

that being said my score was 26, and I have always known I am not good socially, and for those of you who HAVE met me you know I am not the "life of the party" yet society seems to say we all need to be social butterflies, an abundance of friends, and a social calendar that is so full we have to turn down events.

of course that is what "media" and such portrays with "well adjusted characters in movies and shows.

we do have an over dependency on getting entertainment, AND how to live our lives from what I may say is "hollywood"
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Post by: mensa180 on August 18, 2007, 12:08:35 AM
I got 16.  Sorry to hear about your 19 year old, I can relate (though I don't think on par to a father losing a son).  My brother died when he was 28, driving home from work.  He fell asleep and hit a tree.
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Post by: MrBill on August 18, 2007, 12:32:46 AM
Sorry Rip, I apologize, I have no animosity at all towards you personally.

All these quotes are out of context.

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A truly full-blown autistic person would most likely not even be able to take the test, nor complete it, without help.


This statement is blatantly incorrect for far more than half of all ADS afflicted. So now I'm off on the wrong foot to begin with.

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How do I know this? One of my nephews has high functioning autism.


Ok, I do not know if you Know it, or if you have just heard it from his parents. Being as I was off on the wrong foot to begin with this sounds like one of the third hand "they said" comments ... It probably was not intended to be, but I took it that way, I apologize.

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Sounds like your form is quite mild comparatively.


Now I'm at the "Thanks doc, I sure appreciate all your hard work getting all those medical degrees just to help me out." stage.

So we both made some mistakes in communication ... watermelon happens ...

I truly hope that soon they can help your nephew with his plight ... the dark end of the spectrum can be a terrible ordeal indeed.
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Post by: clerick on August 18, 2007, 07:57:48 AM
What some don't seem to understand here is that there are many levels of autism.  On the extreme end you have those kids who are almost completely self-contained.  They barely interact with the outside world and probably will never be able to live life unassisted.  On the mild end you have Aspergers.  My son is borderline Aspergers, depending on which test and which doctor you talk to.  He does VERY well in school, and is a very bright boy, but his social skills are lacking, he gets focused on a single topic sometimes and has difficulty letting it go.  He will go on to lead a normal life (assuming i do my job as a parent) but there will definitely be challenges for him.
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Post by: eskimo2 on August 18, 2007, 10:45:21 AM
My brother-in-law is a stay at home dad and writes a parenting column in the Juneau newspaper (Juneau Empire – Alaska).   His last article was published just a couple days ago and had to do with autism; here it is:

Autism and the Blame Game
 
    At Home With The Kids
    By Michael Wittig
 
 
    I may be to blame for my daughter’s autism.
 
    Last year the Israeli army released a study in which men over 40 were found to be almost six times as likely to father autistic children as men in their twenties.
 
    Or maybe it was my wife. Another study, released in July of this year, suggests that women who live near agricultural areas where pesticides are used produce offspring with higher incidences of autism.
 
    Perhaps the pharmaceutical industry is to blame. Some people claim their children became autistic after getting immunizations in which mercury was present in trace amounts, pointing to a 1998 case study (this study was later retracted, but the premise remains popular).
 
    There are many published studies claiming to have found autism links. Personally, I believe most of these studies have merit, but they all miss the point.
 
    The Autism Society of America claims that one in every 166 children born today is autistic. They also claim this number has been increasing, although some of the increase is probably due to an increased awareness of autism spectrum disorders in our society.
 
    I accept the premise that autism rates are on the rise, and I have my own theory as to why: we live in a world dependent upon chemistry.
 
    We use pesticides to deter insects and other pests from eating our crops in order that we may have enough food to eat. We feed hormones to livestock to speed their growth rate or increase their milk production. We add preservatives to processed foods to prolong their shelf life. We vaccinate our population to control the spread of disease, and use medicines to limit the impact of diseases we do contract.
 
    Without these chemicals most of us would die from disease or starvation, if we were lucky enough to be born at all.
 
    Chemicals drive our industries and create products we buy and use every day. These industries and many of their products add chemical pollutants to our air and water. People also use chemicals of all sorts, often improperly and to excess, causing more pollution in our environment.
 
    New chemicals come into use daily. Occasionally, chemicals are banned from use because their harmful effects become readily apparent. Unfortunately, the harmful effects of many chemicals are not readily apparent, and interactions between chemicals often cause unintended consequences.
 
    Mankind has always been exposed to chemicals, but the complexity and concentrations of chemicals to which we are exposed surged during the past century, especially within the last fifty years.
 
    This is the same time frame during which autism rates have been rising.
 
    All my life, I have been exposed to chemicals. The same thing is true of my wife. The same thing is true of every last one of us. Every year we add to our lives, we add more chemicals into our bodies.
 
    Is it so much of a stretch to imagine that a lifetime of exposure to many chemicals increases the risk to our unborn children? Is it hard to believe that young children in a chemistry-dependent society are at a greater risk from these chemicals?
 
    This is my autism theory. I have no proof other than the circumstantial evidence provided here, but I have seen many other theories presented with less evidence and accepted as fact.
 
    If this theory is correct, what are the prospects for my children, for all our children? What of their children? Is there anything we could do to reduce the risks to them?
 
    We could choose to buy organically grown foods, or at least wash the fresh produce we buy. We could avoid meat from animals tainted by added hormones, or fed with pesticide-treated feeds (most store-bought meats). We could cut out processed foods laden with preservatives. We could filter the water we drink.
 
    We could also encourage our children, and all people who want to have children, toward an active lifestyle. Exercise increases the body’s metabolism, and flushes toxins from flesh and bone.
 
    Lifestyle changes like these may or may not reduce the risk of autism, and some of these changes would be difficult for many people. Then again, wouldn’t taking better care of ourselves be better than playing the blame game?