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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: LePaul on August 17, 2007, 01:55:27 PM
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I'm ready to upgrade from a CRT to 19" LCD screen. Most of the screens I am seeing with 2ms refresh times are widescreen. My previous work laptop was a widescreen and it took a great deal of time for me to adjust to that. It seemed no matter what resolution I liked, it would stretch my icons horizontally (makes sense, wide screen).
The Samsung's are the ones that are garnering the rave reviews here at work. BestBuy seems to have brought their in-store prices down to match NewEgg and other online retailers. For monitors, I'd prefer to buy local, in case there's a bad pixel right out of the box. RMA's from online retailers are a hassle.
How do games like Aces High and others work with widescreen?
(Getting rid of my 19" CRT will give me a LOT of desk space back!)
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LP, I bought a 19" LG LCD (regular, not WS) and I don't regret it.
IMO, you CANNOT go wrong with Samsung or LG.
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I've had a Samsung 19" LCD for almost 2 years now and I am very satisfied with it. It saved a TON of space in the RV.
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If your icons looked stretched, then you weren't running in a proper widescreen resolution. My WS monitor is running in 1680 x 1050, for instance, so everything is proportionately correct. My games all look good and normal in it, and I loves it.
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I have a Dell 24" (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-5647) that runs at 1900 x 1200. Looks great, very happy with it.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
If your icons looked stretched, then you weren't running in a proper widescreen resolution. My WS monitor is running in 1680 x 1050, for instance, so everything is proportionately correct. My games all look good and normal in it, and I loves it.
Samsung 21" here ... Chairboy is correct, run a widescreen res and all looks fine.
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Cool, thanks for that info, guys!
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I own a 19 inch Samsung SyncMaster 940 BW LCD monitor.
The default factory settings for brightness and contrast are so HIGH that I tuned them down to 20% brightness/contrast.
The best $200 purchase ever.
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Wide screen for movies is great, for AH it suxxors.
Loosing those few rows of pixels in AH if you use widescreen rez will realy screw with your SA.
Tried WS for three weeks and then went to a 3to4 19" LCD, never will I go back to using WS for AH.
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Originally posted by Flatbar
Loosing those few rows of pixels in AH if you use widescreen rez will realy screw with your SA.
NEED MORE PIXELS! But seriously, losing 100-200 pixels more often than not isn't going to make or break you dying.
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Originally posted by 1K3
I own a 19 inch Samsung SyncMaster 940 BW LCD monitor.
The default factory settings for brightness and contrast are so HIGH that I tuned them down to 20% brightness/contrast.
The best $200 purchase ever.
That's the one I am eyeing at BestBuy. Its $20 more than NewEgg but the convenience factor is worth buying locally. Having had to RMA two items previously to NewEgg, its a slow process.
I was wondering how my flight sims would look on widescreen. It seems many are flying fine with it.
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I use a 22" widescreen.........once you get used to it, there is no way I'd go back to a crt.........very bright, clear and looks good...saves a whole hell of a lot of space as well....
Wurzel
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im playing on a laptop with 17" widescreen and because ive set the resolution properly at 1440x900 nothing is stretched and i love format both for work and play. Will never go back to 4:3 again
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Originally posted by LePaul
I was wondering how my flight sims would look on widescreen. It seems many are flying fine with it.
It's a fair trade. You lose some vertical image and gain horizontal image.
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I have the samsung 244T and am very pleased with it. I recommend it with confidence you would really enjoy it.
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Originally posted by 1K3
It's a fair trade. You lose some vertical image and gain horizontal image.
Incorrect. The image you are seeing is a 4:3 image that has the image "stretched" past the top and bottom limits of your monitor. Those pixels are simply not shown.
It's as if you took a poster, cut a piece the size of your monitor out, and pasted it on.
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I recently got a 22"LCD wide screen. I love it.
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What 00Z said. I love my widescreen viewsonic for my web work and other stuff, but I'm still getting used to the lack of the normal vertical display. I fly the yak alot and I used to be able to see all gauges in the forward view, now I miss the bottom row entirely and most planes I have to page down or look forward down to see the gauges. Had I known that I would have stuck with a non-widescreen LCD.
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I just bought a Westinghouse 22 WS inch last week. It has average performance with a contrast ratio of 700:1 and a refresh ratio of .05 ms or whatever. It’s replacing a decent flat 19” Viewsonic CRT. I absolutely love it even though its average. I bought it because it was on sale for $180. I’ll never go back to CRT.
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Originally posted by Fulmar
NEED MORE PIXELS! But seriously, losing 100-200 pixels more often than not isn't going to make or break you dying.
I tried a WS that had a native rez of 1440x900.
I now use a 3x4 LCD with a native rez of 1280x1024.
900 vert rez verses 1024 vert rez, that's 124 rows of pixels not available to a WS desplay. I called it a few but I was being facetious, It makes a big difference, IMO.
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http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2287595&page=1#Post2287595
24" for 300$
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The most disheartening thing about this thread is discovering OOZ662's avatar is gone, as wel as that beautiful lady? Eek!
Again, thanks for all the input. The 2 sims I fly the most are Aces High and Falcon 4 Allied Force. F4 has a mode that works well with widescreen. Aces might require some tinkering.
The big reason to go to LCD is my girlfriend and kids are moving in, so the computer room becomes her sons room. The flying computer winds up in the bedroom, so going LCD gives us a lot of deskspace back. And golly, what a great reason to upgrade :D
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24" iMac here. Looked GREAT last time I played.
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I guess this and many other games were designed for the ancient 4:3 setup. Works Fine. Buy a new graphics card ~ $300 and a wide screen 22" $400 and loose the bottom 1/4 of the screen. Great if flighin a zeke or something but crap in a 190. Cant tell how much ammo left, flap or gear settings. seems like BS deal to me. I can adjust to rescaling but cropping screen is a SEVERE Disadvantage
Warbirds III seems to handle it brilliantly.
Cheers ............Hitech ...........FIX IT and come into the 21st century dudes.
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I have two 19" standard width lcds. I much prefer two screens over one wide screen. Not sure how two widescreens would compare.
I do a lot of remote work from home and being able to easily maximize another pc or even IE to one screen is very handy. Much easier than if I had the same desktop space but on one monitor.
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We've got a widescreen (well, not me, my husband does over on his). I think it's ugly. It distorts everything slightly.
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Texasmom, if it's distorting the image, then the screen resolution is incorrect. Go into the display control panel, click the Settings tab, and check the resolution. Set it to the proper resolution for the monitor. What model is the monitor? We can look up the rez if it's not obvious.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Texasmom, if it's distorting the image, then the screen resolution is incorrect. Go into the display control panel, click the Settings tab, and check the resolution. Set it to the proper resolution for the monitor. What model is the monitor? We can look up the rez if it's not obvious.
Not interested in helping my husband with that, but thanks. If he's satisfied with it, fine. I think it looks like crap, and I'm happy with my own computer :)
*edit* (sorry, if it wasn't morning time, I may be more compassionate toward him about it... usually in the morning though, I just don't give a hoot. Later in the day I'll probably come back & take your advice to fix that for him... but for right now, he's on his own).
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Samsung 206BW 20" wide screen.
One word......awesome
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one two or ten screens give me back the bottom half :)
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Here is what I mean
(http://www.counterfeitdetectorcard.com/AH/cockpit.jpg)
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Check out the latest LGs and Samsungs. They are now competing over contrast-ratio.
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I went from a 21" Sony G500 Trinitron flat tube to a 22" Widescreen Hanns-G (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254020).
I would never switch back to a CRT or a 4:3 aspect ratio again. In AH, it does cut off some at the top and bottom (HTC really should do something about that, IMO), but if your particular plane has something important cut off from the default view, you can pull your head position back to bring more into view and set that as your default...that worked well for me.
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Originally posted by LePaul
My previous work laptop was a widescreen and it took a great deal of time for me to adjust to that. It seemed no matter what resolution I liked, it would stretch my icons horizontally (makes sense, wide screen).
Then the driver must have been horribly wrong, or something else. I have never seen that happen on any widescreen actually when you set the resolution correctly. Most monitors that are not of the dirt-cheap variety these days are good for gaming. The more expensive models are usually worse for for gaming but has alot better color and image quality.
As suggested above the samsungs are good. Dell also makes some very good models and so does apple (but at an insane cost). I have 2 x 20 inch NEC MultiSync 2090UXi lcds that are not designed for gaming but for image quality and they are awsome both for gaming and images but they cost a bundle and would be overkill for gaming.
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the above screen capture is from the full back , not default position . This is the maximum cockpit view available.
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You must have something REALLY messed up to be missing that much, Taipan.
Here's a P-51 cockpit, default view/zoom, on a 1024x768 monitor. (http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff255/OOZ662/P51CRT.jpg)
Here's the same setup on an 1280x800 monitor (with the graphics turned down...it's my laptop). (http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff255/OOZ662/P51LCD.jpg)
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I love my 22" Acer. Flying took some getting used to, but now it's great.
Most of the people having resolution problems probably have video card issues.
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I have a Panasonic 22" wide screen that I really like. I don't feel like I am giving up much if any in AH. I don't remember what I am using for a resolution setting but I picked an analog wide screen one that really works well with my combination video card and monitor.
Mark
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I have a 32" Sony LCD 1080P TV as my monitor. I play at 1872/990 because the viewing distance is actually 31.5 because of the frame. Not as high a resolution as some CRTs but the size makes the difference.
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Turn your wide screen vertically. You dont lose any viewable area sideways, but you gain MUCH more viewable area to the top and bottom of the screen. I've flown like this since the spring and I'm not going back! When I fly with the screen in the normal position, I feel claustrofobic, having been used to the ample view of the vertical screen.
Here's a screenshot from IL2FB, it works exactly the same in AH2 as well. The red box shows the visible area with the screen in the normal position. As you can see, you get about 3x the viewable area with the screen in the vertical position!
(http://camo.pp.fi/vert_3.jpg)
Camo
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Camo
Just spun my monitor to potrait mode and here is the diff in views:
1920x1200
(http://www.pogbird.com/X45/1920x1200.jpg)
1200x1920
(http://www.pogbird.com/X45/1200x1920.jpg)
like you said, you don't lose much on the sides but you gain a ton in the vertical view.
Thanks a bunch for the tip!