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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: 4deck on August 20, 2007, 02:12:00 PM
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Here you go. The idoit himself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whhbPVrb5KM&mode=related&search=
Great speeches
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqLvBUSJucg&mode=related&search=
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I love the internets!
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you guys will love Hillary, she gives great speech, all lies but it sounds great.
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Hillary Scares the piss out of me.
Ron Paul is our only hope.
Funny in the video they didn't mention Dan Quayle.
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(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/Masherbrum/hillary.jpg)
That is all I have to say.
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I don't get it.
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it means Hillary is going to sell out to "big business", you know , like halliburton.
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Originally posted by 68Hawk
I don't get it.
Read the word "tommorrow"
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Read the headline "New jobs for tommorow" and ask yourself a question, how do you spell tommrow?
As for Bush, well he was smart enough to get in there
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Originally posted by Bosco123
how do you spell tommrow?
not like that
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I'm a bush lover. I hate it when girls shave everything off.
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Originally posted by 68Hawk
I don't get it.
I don't get it either. Who is Tom Morrow and why is she getting him a new job?
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ya yall can make fun of his speeches but id rather have some 1 who cant speak as well but still know what hes doing, then have a person who has perfect diction but couldn't run a quickie mart down the street. i personally think bush is doing a great job. and Rudy giuliani is the only hope for America.
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Anyone that's Pro Life and not a democrat - 2008
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:aok
Wonder why the media didnt cover the straw polls too.
Seems Doctor Paul, has come out on top and not a Mention of it either.
Before you comment on this statement better do your research before you pipe in about your candidate, or tear into Ron Paul. I am very passionate about his beliefs, so I may get a bit a touchy if you dont have your facts.
Cheers
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If Bush knew what he was doing........
oh don't even get me started on that.
Bush has never really been successful at anything in his life except to play the front man in this political charade. Without Rove and the political capitol of his father he never would have gotten elected, EVER.
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Originally posted by DEMONSLAYER
ya yall can make fun of his speeches but id rather have some 1 who cant speak as well but still know what hes doing, then have a person who has perfect diction but couldn't run a quickie mart down the street.
He knows what he's doing? Remember, this is the president that said he was a girl from West Texas....
ack-ack
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Joe shots himself in the foot in the last minute and half, when he points out that the media has tried to make only “Republican” presidents out to be dumb and then names them: Eisenhower, Reagan, Ford. But then has to admit that they weren’t, he then tries to through in that maybe you don’t need to be smart to be president.
If that’s the case Joe? Then why are you and MSNBC running a 10 mins bit with the words “is bush an IDIOT” on the screen, if it doesn’t matter.
OOOPS foot in mouth.
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"Tomorrow " BTW
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bOOsh is teh evlergibbler!
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Rudy giuliani is the only hope for America.
What, specifically, does Rudy offer America? Which positions and platforms enhance our well being at home and abroad?
As a supporter of the Bill of Rights I have problems with him on the 2nd Amendment right off the bat, and very bad feelings where the 4th, 5th and 10th are concerned, not to mention he seems particularly Bush League, pun intended, where the job of CIC is concerned. I put him on par with an Obama. More alike than different in many ways, and the difference are not improvements in the others. Just judging by his policies in NY before his role as heroic spectator/talking head during the 911 events elevated him to prominence .
I would almost support Hillary before I would support Rudy, and that is saying a lot. I don't think Hillary is principled enough not to waffle on the liberal democratic position on something like a new AWB if she though it was bad politically (which she should, I know Bill realized that mistake). Rudy, well, I think a RINO like Rudy combined with a Democratic Congress would eliminate a variety of political roadblocks that might otherwise exist to big government.
You would have someone in control of the republican political machine in congress that was sympathetic to a variety of extreme democratic positions while supporting some of the more extreme Republican positions.
Hillary, Obama or Rudy McRomny -- what a bunch of front runners.
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I second Charon
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/Masherbrum/hillary.jpg)
That is all I have to say.
Who the Hell is Tom Morrow and does he have a job yet?
Mac
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Sad when we have no decent choices........ whoever is voted in this time.... the votes won't be for them, but against someone else.
Today the sad truth is that, for the most part, only low class individuals will put POLITICIAN next to their name.
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Originally posted by Curval
I'm a bush lover. I hate it when girls shave everything off.
see you do have a sense of humor, beans not withstanding.
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Originally posted by 4deck
Here you go. The idoit himself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whhbPVrb5KM&mode=related&search=
Great speeches
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqLvBUSJucg&mode=related&search=
You should talk, you cannot even spell idiot. Your village called, their idiot is missing, and they want you back.
I could not possibly care less how passionate you are about Ron Paul, or how upset you get if someone does not like him. Personally, I'm hoping for some combination of Fred Thompson, Duncan Hunter, and Newt Gingrich. And I couldn't care less how much that upsets you or anyone else, either.
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Originally posted by storch
see you do have a sense of humor, beans not withstanding.
Mitch and I played a round of golf (well..nine holes) on Sunday. We tried to pick up some pink shorts so we could get a picture for ya...but they didn't sell any at the pro shop and he had to leave to catch his flight home.
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Originally posted by 4deck
Here you go. The idoit himself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whhbPVrb5KM&mode=related&search=
Great speeches
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqLvBUSJucg&mode=related&search=
Sorry, couldn't get passed the communists hosting and being quoted. Linda Ronstadt for Christ's sake? That's an authority?
LMAO
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Originally posted by TalonX
Linda Ronstadt for Christ's sake? That's an authority?
LMAO
I thought she was dead.
Well, at least mentally she is.
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I couldn't bring myself to watch the 2000 debates for Bush's lack of oratory skills. Still, I voted for him twice, what other choice did I have?
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Originally posted by AKIron
I couldn't bring myself to watch the 2000 debates for Bush's lack of oratory skills. Still, I voted for him twice, what other choice did I have?
none sadly
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Originally posted by AKIron
I couldn't bring myself to watch the 2000 debates for Bush's lack of oratory skills. Still, I voted for him twice, what other choice did I have?
Just realize how bad it would have been if Gore or Kerry had won.
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Originally posted by Tango
Just realize how bad it would have been if Gore or Kerry had won.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Honestly... that is hilarious.
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I would hate to have an environmentalist or a combat veteran as a President :mad:
I prefer to have born-rich aristocrats as my leaders.
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lol that was funny right there tango.
but really guys can ANY OF YOU hilary or obama lovers answer one question for me please?
what have Obama or Hilary ever done to do good in this country?
its a simple question but think about it.
Rudy really helped with NY ever since he was elected he has made NY a better state he has cleaned up the violence and helped greatly with the 911 attack.
so tell me would you rather have some 1 in there that knows how to run something and does what they say, or would you want some 1 in there that has no clue wtf they are doing and just saying goals they want to achieve.
i haven't heard one time how they were going to achieve these goals. all they are saying is what the over all outcome is.
personally i dont think hilery even has a ***** clue what she is doing. Obama might but then again we have no proof that he actually says what hes gonna do.
so Rudy is my vote. he knows what hes doing!!!
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Why docent anyone here get up and give a speech to the whole country. You would make mistakes too. DAM get off his back he's only got a few months left. :furious
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:lol
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Originally posted by 4deck
Here you go. The idoit himself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whhbPVrb5KM&mode=related&search=
Great speeches
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqLvBUSJucg&mode=related&search=
ok.....after seeing this, i KNOW without a doubt that he didn;t lie to us about the war as i've thought all along. he's just too dam stupid to have lied that well. so who's REALLY running the country now? can't be this waste of spermmmm.......
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America is sick and Dr. Ron Paul is the cure.
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Originally posted by john9001
it means Hillary is going to sell out to "big business", you know , like halliburton.
kinda like bush has been doing for years then?:D :rofl
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Originally posted by Bosco123
Read the headline "New jobs for tommorow" and ask yourself a question, how do you spell tommrow?
As for Bush, well he was smart enough to get in there
no he wasn't...he used daddy's money to buy his way in
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Originally posted by CAP1
no he wasn't...he used daddy's money to buy his way in
Thats not a counter point.
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Originally posted by CAP1
no he wasn't...he used daddy's money to buy his way in
that is not true but you are entitled to be wrong and go about flaunting your ignorance.
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Originally posted by CAP1
no he wasn't...he used daddy's money to buy his way in
leave JFK out of this.
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Originally posted by DEMONSLAYER
lol that was funny right there tango.
but really guys can ANY OF YOU hilary or obama lovers answer one question for me please?
what have Obama or Hilary ever done to do good in this country?
its a simple question but think about it.
Rudy really helped with NY ever since he was elected he has made NY a better state he has cleaned up the violence and helped greatly with the 911 attack.
so tell me would you rather have some 1 in there that knows how to run something and does what they say, or would you want some 1 in there that has no clue wtf they are doing and just saying goals they want to achieve.
i haven't heard one time how they were going to achieve these goals. all they are saying is what the over all outcome is.
personally i dont think hilery even has a ***** clue what she is doing. Obama might but then again we have no proof that he actually says what hes gonna do.
so Rudy is my vote. he knows what hes doing!!!
Better question. What is the difference between a Republican and a Democrat?
Nothing. They lie, cheat and steal like brothers and sisters. Piss on them both.
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Originally posted by CAP1
ok.....after seeing this, i KNOW without a doubt that he didn;t lie to us about the war as i've thought all along. he's just too dam stupid to have lied that well. so who's REALLY running the country now? can't be this waste of spermmmm.......
I love how people call Bush stupid.
He beat both Albore and Ferry.
That says a lot for your candidates. :lol
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Paul makes a lot of sense. Cheney is a crook. Hillary is a bafoon. Obama is a fool. Guliani is a weirdo. Edwards is a sweet wrist. Thompson is a lazy lard arse. Bush is a moron that should be made to spend a tour in al sadr city in an unarmored Humvee. :aok
Out.
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charon... I would disagree with you about hillary... she is mean spirited and arrogant to a fault.. she would have no trouble getting together with her sewing circle of mean old lady democrats and banning as many firearms as she could along with adding untold restrictions.
4deck.. with friends like you ron paul doesn't even need his worst enemy... himself. at least you are "passionate about what he believes" one of you should be.
What straw poll did he come out ahead in btw?
lazs
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Better question. What is the difference between a Republican and a Democrat?
Nothing. They lie, cheat and steal like brothers and sisters. Piss on them both.
Absolutely!
This is the key to helping out country, realizing this and rejecting the people who are so entrenched in partisan politics and special interests.
A partyless Obiwan Kenobi is our only hope.
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Originally posted by 68Hawk
Absolutely!
This is the key to helping out country, realizing this and rejecting the people who are so entrenched in partisan politics and special interests.
A partyless Obiwan Kenobi is our only hope.
As true as this is, I fear that the Republicans and Democrats are too firmly entrenched, both in the mindset and traditions' of American politics, to be upset by a candidate going alone. Any candidate will need a party in back of them that is established at quite a few different levels. The current two are just too powerful for an outsider to break, IMHO.
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You're probably right Frode, but the agency for this lays with the voters. If the voters would reject the partied clowns and truly vote for an independent they could win and prove the jokers wrong.
The more the parties and the media paint our decision as one vs. one, right vs. left, the more they reinforce this dangerous misconception. It only serves their own interests.
Realistically speaking we may have to pick one of the lesser evils from the parties, but that's why we keep having a choice of lessers. If it wasn't for the primaries and the horror of campaign financing we might actually get a decent candidate in office, and the parties certainly wouldn't want that.
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I agree. You could also say that nothing, so much as politics, proves the old saying that "money is the root of all evil."
All that anyone in either party does anymore is to take money from people who tell them what to do, or how to vote. Of course, for the right amount of money, you can buy a vote yourself...But if you have that much cash around, you don't need to worry about much, anyway.
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You have to worry about any policy that may threaten that cash, and you have to worry about getting more...
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Originally posted by john9001
you guys will love Hillary, she gives great speech, all lies but it sounds great.
No matter what she said, Hillary could jump 15 points in the polls if she stopped shouting, spoke calmly, and turned up the volume of the PA.
When she shouts over the crowd to make a point, she sounds like the mother in law from hell.
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charon... I would disagree with you about hillary... she is mean spirited and arrogant to a fault.. she would have no trouble getting together with her sewing circle of mean old lady democrats and banning as many firearms as she could along with adding untold restrictions.
She won't get my vote regardless. But, neither will Rudy, Obama or Romny. I MIGHT vote for McCain as a lesser of two evils in a weak moment if he's the candidate and MIGHT vote for Thompson if he can convince me he is more of small gov. guy like he says he is. Newt -- who knows. Richardson from the Democrats would get my vote before Rudy McRomny, holding my nose in the process.
But, probably, I will waste my vote on a write in like Paul. Agree with most of his positions, certainly not all, and certainly don't think he has a real chance to go all the way. Now it doesn't much matter in my state -- Hillary or Obama will get the nod -- but I would probably do that regardless for reasons I have stated in the past. The Republican party needs to understand that pushing a a big government RINO like Rudy as the alternative to Hillary is not something that can be tolerated.
For me it comes down to the state and congressional elections, but I regularly get screwed by the RINOS at both the state and federal level. I will, however, vote for any democratic alternative to my NRA F rated Congressman until they run someone who supports my needs and that doesn't pander to Daley and the suburban bliss ninnies.
Charon
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Rudy really helped with NY ever since he was elected he has made NY a better state he has cleaned up the violence and helped greatly with the 911 attack.
Well, a lot of people disagree. From those that point out a trend in lower crime nationwide during the period; to those that point out initiatives started under his predecessor, to those that point out an extra 7000 officers on the street from federal funding he had nothing to do with; to those that point out he has shifted a variety of crimes into areas not tracked by the FBI; to those that point out he encouraged the underreporting of crime (like we find in Chicago under Daley, btw); to those that point out his police commissioner Bill Bratton was responsible for much of what he takes credit for at the specific program level.
From wikpidia (I know the source isn't the best, but this is not new material by any means):
During Giuliani's administration, crime rates dropped, continuing the trend that had begun under his predecessor, Dinkins, in 1990.[58] Giuliani's presidential campaign website has described the drop as occurring under his leadership.[59] The extent to which his policies deserve the credit is disputed, however. A small but significant nationwide drop in crime preceded Giuliani's election, and he may have been the beneficiary of a trend already in progress. Additional contributing factors to the overall decline in crime during the 1990s were federal funding of an additional 7,000 police officers and an overall improvement in the national economy. Many experts believe changing demographics were the factor most responsible for crime rate reductions, which were similar across the country during this time.[60] Because the crime index is based on the FBI crime index, which is self-reported by police departments, some have alleged that crimes were shifted into categories that the FBI doesn't collect.[61]
Giuliani's supporters cite studies concluding that New York's drop in crime rate in the '90s and '00s exceeds all national figures and therefore should be linked with a local dynamic that was not present as such anywhere else in the country: "most focused form of policing in history. Zimring (Frank Zimring — The Great American Crime Decline) estimates that up to half of New York’s crime drop in the 1990s, and virtually 100 percent of its continuing crime decline since 2000, has resulted from policing."
Bratton, not Giuliani, was featured on the cover of Time Magazine in 1996.[62] Giuliani forced Bratton out of his position after two years, in what was generally seen as a battle of two large egos in which Giuliani was unable to accept Bratton's celebrity.[63]
Giuliani's term also saw allegations of civil rights abuses and other police misconduct. There were several police shootings of unarmed suspects,[64] and the scandals surrounding the sexual torture of Abner Louima and the killings of Amadou Diallo and Patrick Dorismond. Giuliani supported the Police Department, for example by releasing what he called Dorismond's "extensive criminal record" to the public, including a sealed juvenile file.[65]
And just exactly, and specifically, what great leadership did he show after 911? And none of this "held held the city together..." The people of NY held themselves together from the firemen rushing up the stairs to the orderly evacuation in the clouds of dust to the volunteers searching through the wreckage without any great mustering by the mayor.
Then of course, there is his well documented pissing on the Constitution in regards to the 2nd -- those mean evil assault weapons linked to a whopping 1-2 percent of all firearm homicide. Read the quoted materials above before you listen to him talk of his successes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ99sBfdqE0
Charon
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Our country's best? How can this current list of candidates not make you sad?
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I'll vote for the candidate who:
balances the budget,
solves the Mid East mess,
allows women to decide their own abortion issues,
preserves citizen gun rights,
controls immigration,
balances federal and state rights,
balances government responsibilities with individual privacy,
brings about a viable United States of North America,
keeps China happy short of war,
convinces terrorists not to terrorize,
rewards the enterprising and comforts the needy,
promotes the environment,
nurtures capitalism,
preserves social security,
preserves American military deterrence,
encourages global disarmanent,
promotes global well being and harmony,
makes trading partners, not enemies, out of all nations.
I probably forgot something, but that's close enough to earn my vote.
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just keep re-electing great Americans like this.............
"Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.
He had earlier written Bilbo "I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side"........Robert Byrd Democrat West Virginia. holding the titles Kleagle (recruiter) and Exalted Cyclops,,KKK
and this.....
Filibuster of the Civil Rights Act of 1964
A recent photo of Byrd speaking on the Senate floorByrd joined with other Southern and border state Democrats to filibuster the Civil Rights Act of 1964, personally filibustering the bill for 14 hours — a move he now says he regrets. Despite an 83 day filibuster in the Senate, both parties in Congress voted overwhelmingly in favor of the Act, and President Johnson signed the bill into law.
He also opposed the Voting Rights Act of 1965, but voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1968. In 2005, Byrd told the Washington Post that his membership in the Baptist church led to a change in his views. In the opinion of one reviewer, Byrd, along with other Southern and border state Democrats, came to realize that he would have to temper "his blatantly segregationist views" and move to the Democratic Party mainstream if he wanted to play a role nationally.
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Originally posted by Halo
I'll vote for the candidate who:
balances the budget,
solves the Mid East mess,
allows women to decide their own abortion issues,
preserves citizen gun rights,
controls immigration,
balances federal and state rights,
balances government responsibilities with individual privacy,
brings about a viable United States of North America,
keeps China happy short of war,
convinces terrorists not to terrorize,
rewards the enterprising and comforts the needy,
promotes the environment,
nurtures capitalism,
preserves social security,
preserves American military deterrence,
encourages global disarmanent,
promotes global well being and harmony,
makes trading partners, not enemies, out of all nations.
I probably forgot something, but that's close enough to earn my vote.
but I am not running...
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Originally posted by Halo
I'll vote for the candidate who:
balances the budget,
solves the Mid East mess,
allows women to decide their own abortion issues,
preserves citizen gun rights,
controls immigration,
balances federal and state rights,
balances government responsibilities with individual privacy,
brings about a viable United States of North America,
keeps China happy short of war,
convinces terrorists not to terrorize,
rewards the enterprising and comforts the needy,
promotes the environment,
nurtures capitalism,
preserves social security,
preserves American military deterrence,
encourages global disarmanent,
promotes global well being and harmony,
makes trading partners, not enemies, out of all nations.
I probably forgot something, but that's close enough to earn my vote.
Good luck with that.
One problem, some of those items cancel each other out
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And this great American.......
No Child Left Behind
Ted Kennedy was a major player in the bipartisan team that wrote the controversial No Child Left Behind Act of 2001, which, according to both Kennedy and President Bush, was a compromise. He then worked to get it passed in a Republican controlled Congress, despite the opposition of members from both parties.
And let us not forget the founding father of our present Immigration Laws
Immigration policy
Ted Kennedy was a strong supporter of the 1965 Hart-Celler Act — signed into law by President Lyndon B. Johnson — which dramatically changed US immigration policy.[13] "The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs."[14] Kennedy is now the chair of the United States Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security and Citizenship, and remains a strong advocate for immigrants, both documented and undocumented.
This legislation replaced the Immigration Act of 1924, which favored immigrants from northern and western Europe. Proponents of the 1965 bill argued that immigration laws and quotas were discriminatory, and that American immigration policy should accept people not on the basis of their nationality. This also abolished the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882.
Kennedy subsequently took a lead role in several other would-be immigration measures, including the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act (S. 1033) ("McCain-Kennedy") in 2005 and the Secure Borders, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Reform Act of 2007, a bipartisan measure worked out with President George W. Bush which ultimately failed on the floor of the U.S. Senate
And his inablity to support the Constatution,
[Gun politics
Ted Kennedy has been a staunch supporter of gun control initiatives. He was one of the 16 senators who voted against the Vitter Amendment.
and ...
Same-sex marriage
Kennedy is one of only five senators who have publicly announced support for same-sex marriage. Kennedy's home state of Massachusetts is the only state in the United States within which same-sex marriage is legal.
So if Bush's inablity to articulate is his vise, then I guess we're not to bad off.
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Originally posted by Curval
Mitch and I played a round of golf (well..nine holes) on Sunday. We tried to pick up some pink shorts so we could get a picture for ya...but they didn't sell any at the pro shop and he had to leave to catch his flight home.
I'm sorry I missed this earlier. I feel cheated, somehow I feel wronged.
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"money is the root of all evil."
The quote is actually....For the love of money is the root of all evil. Money is an inanimate object and cannot be inherently evil. ;)
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I agree with Halo, but I doubt it'll ever happen.
Not sure that a US of N.America can ever be viable though, at least not right now.
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Originally posted by 68Hawk
Absolutely!
This is the key to helping out country, realizing this and rejecting the people who are so entrenched in partisan politics and special interests.
A partyless Obiwan Kenobi is our only hope.
The Electoral College would trump the popular vote in this case every time imo.