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Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: Austox on August 21, 2007, 12:09:54 AM
ok, when i play aces high, o always love the head on shoot-off. after me and another pilot do a head on pass, i continue straight while they turn and loose speed. once im a good 2k ahead of them, i turn around for another head on pass. what is the best plane for this?

I have had a lot of success in the tempest, lately, andi landed 10 kills in 1 in 8 player at the tiny map.

I also really LOVE the p51d, but its not going do well with my tactics. is there a way i can improve with this, or should i stick with the tempest?
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: Bruv119 on August 21, 2007, 01:06:35 AM
Stick with the Tempest,  LA7,  Niki, Hurri 2c,  190 A8 (all guns) or F4U 1C hog,

What all these planes have in common is ALOT of cannon you should be able to line up your enemy and hold the trigger down as soon as they are 1000 out.  Then if your good at it they should explode or be broken before they Ram you.

Hope this helps in your search for perfecting the HO.
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: Latrobe on August 21, 2007, 01:15:41 AM
I personally hate the HO. Whenever I'm in a Head-On situation I wait till im 1.0K out and roll hard. 99% of the time they miss and I can just pull around onto their six.

The planes Bruv listed are the best HO planes. If you get a pm from the guy you killed saying "you're a HO dweeb" or something like that, then you've done your job. The Head-On is part of a Dogfight and they will just have to live with it.
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: BaldEagl on August 21, 2007, 01:59:57 AM
Fly any plane with big cannons (preferably a fast plane).  Set convergence to maximum and open fire at D800.  With the 190's you'll have to get out 3-3.5K before your turn.

This is not going to make you a very popular guy.
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: DAVENRINO on August 21, 2007, 03:26:28 AM
Does anyone else smell bait?;)
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: TequilaChaser on August 21, 2007, 05:22:50 AM
stinky
Title: Re: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: Oldman731 on August 21, 2007, 06:38:49 AM
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Originally posted by Austox
what is the best plane for this?

Probably most would agree that the C.202 is the best plane for this.  Consider using the option that gives you an extra two 7.7 machine guns, although they will severely reduce your plane's performance.

Both the Spit I or the Hurricane I will be good for this, too.  Each of them has eight guns, more than any other fighter plane in AH2.

- oldman
Title: Re: Re: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: TequilaChaser on August 21, 2007, 06:49:02 AM
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Originally posted by Oldman731
Probably most would agree that the C.202 is the best plane for this.  Consider using the option that gives you an extra two 7.7 machine guns, although they will severely reduce your plane's performance.

Both the Spit I or the Hurricane I will be good for this, too.  Each of them has eight guns, more than any other fighter plane in AH2.

- oldman


excellent reply oldman, I forgot about the C202, spit1 and hurri 1.......must been the answer before my 1st cup of coffee syndrome....:)
Title: Re: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: SkyRock on August 21, 2007, 08:02:10 AM
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Originally posted by Austox
ok, when i play aces high, o always love the head on shoot-off. after me and another pilot do a head on pass, i continue straight while they turn and loose speed. once im a good 2k ahead of them, i turn around for another head on pass. what is the best plane for this?

I have had a lot of success in the tempest, lately, andi landed 10 kills in 1 in 8 player at the tiny map.

I also really LOVE the p51d, but its not going do well with my tactics. is there a way i can improve with this, or should i stick with the tempest?

Best plane for these tactics is the PanzerMK4.  No sound advice for this type of request, seeing as how you are trolling.
Title: Re: Re: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: gusman on August 21, 2007, 09:53:26 AM
Hey Austox,

Listen to Oldman as he is one of the most respected pilots in AH. One thing he forgot to mention is set your convergence to 100. Also when fighting Head On  it's best to start firing when you are about 1.5k from your prey. Any later then that and you might come into range of your opponents guns


Quote
Originally posted by Oldman731
Probably most would agree that the C.202 is the best plane for this.  Consider using the option that gives you an extra two 7.7 machine guns, although they will severely reduce your plane's performance.

Both the Spit I or the Hurricane I will be good for this, too.  Each of them has eight guns, more than any other fighter plane in AH2.

- oldman


:aok

Cheers,
gusman44
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: Bronk on August 21, 2007, 09:55:03 AM
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Originally posted by Honch
Honch’s Guide to HO’ing
 
#1 Use a plane with 50 cals.  Do not fear the heavy cannon planes like 190s and Typhoons. A 20mm, 30mm or 37mm cannon does no damage if it never hits you and if you follow the steps below they wont.

#2 Turn off tracers – so the other pilot won’t know when you start shooting.

#3 Set your convergences to the maximum distance allowed on your 50-cal plane of choice.

#4 To set up the shot, enter a dive until you are below the target then turn up into them so that when you will approach the other HO’er you will be in a slight climb. That way, if you both get damaged, you’ll be on the way up and they’ll be on the way down, ensuring that they smack the ground before you and thereby getting the kill (and the inevitable whine)

#5 Line up the shot so that you have the other plane in your sites at d2.0.

#6 Zoom in and target their left or right wing.

#7 Begin firing at d1.5 – Cease firing at d1.0 and veer off.  Your 50s will continue on their laser-guided course until the other guy flies right into them.

#8 Use the ‘F’ key on the keyboard to fire so that your trigger finger doesn’t unsteady your shot.

#9 Turn fast and flat to avoid their cannon trajectory then turn back to them so that they cannot gain angles if they happen to survive.

#10 Be gracious when they whine.  If they say “Nice HO jerk”, or something similar,  Say: “Thanks! I use Honch’s guide to HO’ing!”  -S-
 

Remember, it always takes 2 to Head-On so Happy HO'ing!
 
:noid :noid :noid

Bronk
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: Spikes on August 21, 2007, 10:15:13 AM
C202...spit 1, hurri 1 ....I use a D3A a lot too...dem 303s work GREAT for HOing...enough ammo so you really can start firing at 1.5K like you should.
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: DamnedRen on August 21, 2007, 11:57:45 AM
When in doubt, RAM him.

If the bb's and .50's and 20mm's and 30mm taters miss just run right into him. You're guaranteed a kill. 'Side's he just shot up your plane on the HO, didn't he? Don't let him get away!

Trolling aside.

Try learning to saddle up on the guy. Then you own him. He knows you own him and you know it. The HO's is a 50/50 chance you'll die. 'Specially if he's in the same plane as the one's yer asking about here.

Hope this helps.

Ren
Aces High Training Corps
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: morfiend on August 21, 2007, 01:42:06 PM
You guys have forgot the best HO machine,the mossie, just remember to bank hard and pull the nose up  after you shoot.This will allow the mossie to change directions and you'll be on their 6.........
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: 1redrum on August 21, 2007, 02:12:23 PM
don't forget the B5n its a great ho machine  :aok
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: SIK1 on August 21, 2007, 02:15:59 PM
I say the rv8 :aok  now there is a killa.
Title: Re: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: Tachus on August 21, 2007, 07:01:40 PM
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Originally posted by Austox
ok, when i play aces high, o always love the head on shoot-off. after me and another pilot do a head on pass, i continue straight while they turn and loose speed. once im a good 2k ahead of them, i turn around for another head on pass. what is the best plane for this?

I have had a lot of success in the tempest, lately, andi landed 10 kills in 1 in 8 player at the tiny map.

I also really LOVE the p51d, but its not going do well with my tactics. is there a way i can improve with this, or should i stick with the tempest?



I rarely laugh out loud while reading a post, this was an exception to that rule.



Best regards,
--Tachus
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: Oldman731 on August 21, 2007, 07:15:17 PM
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Originally posted by SpikesX
C202...spit 1, hurri 1 ....I use a D3A a lot too...dem 303s work GREAT for HOing...enough ammo so you really can start firing at 1.5K like you should.

The guy is just starting to perfect his technique.  The Val (and Kate) are really planes for the experts, because they compress so quickly in the initial dive.

- oldman
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: Mobius_1 on August 21, 2007, 08:25:15 PM
hillarious
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: DamnedRen on August 21, 2007, 10:00:18 PM
So you guys are suggesting that ramming is not an option? :D
Title: Re: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: RedTop on August 21, 2007, 10:22:18 PM
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Originally posted by Austox
ok, when i play aces high, o always love the head on shoot-off. after me and another pilot do a head on pass, i continue straight while they turn and loose speed. once im a good 2k ahead of them, i turn around for another head on pass. what is the best plane for this?

I have had a lot of success in the tempest, lately, andi landed 10 kills in 1 in 8 player at the tiny map.

I also really LOVE the p51d, but its not going do well with my tactics. is there a way i can improve with this, or should i stick with the tempest?


You get your school supply list yet? IF so...take out that Big Chief Tablet and make notes from the replies.

Also, that Ninja Turtle / Spiderman 2 lunch box will smell funny if you leave bologna sandwiches in there to long.

Don't open your carton of milk from the wrong end.

Always take a trade if pudding is involved.

And last but certainly not least , the giving the teacher and apple thingy , doesn't work. Anyone with your intelligence couldn't do anything to make her think your smarter.
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: humble on August 21, 2007, 10:29:58 PM
This is the best troll of the year:aok :aok :aok :aok :aok
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: Tachus on August 21, 2007, 10:56:07 PM
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Originally posted by humble
This is the best troll of the year:aok :aok :aok :aok :aok


Is there an award for that?:)


--Tachus
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: DoNKeY on August 21, 2007, 11:35:40 PM
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Originally posted by Tachus
Is there an award for that?:)


--Tachus


There's a first for everything.:D
Title: Re: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: RedTop on August 22, 2007, 05:50:14 PM
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Originally posted by Austox
I cant do anything but HO and I need to know what plane is best for that due to my incredible lack of smarts.


Fixed....


He will win that award hands down.
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: KrazyIvn on August 22, 2007, 09:29:21 PM
I dont like the HO but if some one is inclined too..

i've had very good sucess w/ the P38...

trick is ,to be zoomed in...

Start shooting at D1000, you'll start getting getting hits at D800, and to break of at D 500 to 400 (dont get greedy) or so depending on the opponent
Title: Re: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: CAP1 on August 26, 2007, 04:25:23 PM
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Originally posted by Austox
ok, when i play aces high, o always love the head on shoot-off. after me and another pilot do a head on pass, i continue straight while they turn and loose speed. once im a good 2k ahead of them, i turn around for another head on pass. what is the best plane for this?

I have had a lot of success in the tempest, lately, andi landed 10 kills in 1 in 8 player at the tiny map.

I also really LOVE the p51d, but its not going do well with my tactics. is there a way i can improve with this, or should i stick with the tempest?


uummm.......learn to actually fight?:rofl :rofl
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: Laciner on August 26, 2007, 05:01:51 PM
B-25H, no special technique. If you enlist a gunner, you can do a magic "reverse head-on" trick whereby you present your rump to the enemy - like a bonobo chimp - and shoot them with the turrets.
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: VonMessa on August 27, 2007, 10:42:47 AM
HOing is definately part of the game but, HO used as a tactic IS kinda silly.  50/50 chance of getting wasted yourself.  Honestly though, if I do find myself getting HOed, I will fire.  In the same vein, if I turn and find myself looking at a HO shot (especially in a furball when my SA is in the crapper), you better believe I am gonna put rounds downrange (better than no shot).  I do not intentionally HO because it is an iffy tactic, and I'd rather make someone chase me to kill me.    
  The aircraft/loadouts mentioned by the trainers are the best  for HOing, and at times it is also necessary to fight fire with fire.  But if you are planning on HOing all the time and announcing (read trolling) about it, be prepared to become a target since we know your name.  Also be prepared to die a lot.
Title: Im a head on Fighter, And need some advice!
Post by: cracker4head on August 27, 2007, 06:25:42 PM
Many a time i have taken off with the C47 and had awsome success in the HO.The plane is a massive Boing tank that can absorb 90% of any ho cannon fodder plane.