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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: toonces3 on August 22, 2007, 05:57:40 PM
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Hey all,
The revenge kill is an awesome thing. Nothing is more satisfying than killing someone that killed you; it's especially sweet if you got killed in some BS manner.
Last night a teammate got revenge killed. I thought it was kind of a BS thing to do, and I wanted to throw it out there to the crowd.
Me and a couple other guys flew over to an enemy base that was empty. It was about a sector and a half flight. We were dispersed a bit but still supporting, maybe 2-6k apart, flying about 15k up. Anyway, eventually some bad guys started upping and we hung out until they got some altitude before we started getting into some fights. Eventually there were 4 friendlies there including me and the bad guy dar bar just exploded. One of my buds shot down a well-known, high rank player in a fair fight. After the fight, he got shot up by another bad guy and we all decided to egress. Unfortunately, based on how we all got separated during the melee, 2 of my teammates egressed to a different base than me. I landed and then went to the tower as my buddies were a few miles out from their field.
My bud that got shot had to throttle back to keep from running out of gas on the way home- he was in a hellcat. This well-known, high ranked player apparently re-upped a Pony, took off and flew flat out to catch my buddies RTB'ing.
Now, by the time we had left, other friendlies had flown in to the evolving furball over the enemy base and there were other guys to shoot down. Instead, revenge guy flew a sector and a half to our friendly field to shoot my buddy down. That in and of itself isn't so BS though. I'd probably do it if I was mad enough. But this guy flew a sector and a half into the field ack. My buddy evaded his pass, although he was slow and damaged and essentially out of gas at this point. A couple friendlies got on the high ranked guys tail and were rapidly closing, yet this guy pressed his attack and shot the tail off my buddy's hellcat on short final on his second pass, about 3 seconds before getting shot down himself.
My bud was kinda upset by this, and I tended to agree with what he said. While there's nothing inherently unfair about what happened, I have to wonder why someone would essentially commit cartoon suicide in order to get a revenge kill. I dunno. I like to kill the guy that killed me as much as the next guy, but I'm not going to kill myself trying to do it.
What do you guys think?
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Originally posted by toonces3
My bud was kinda upset by this, and I tended to agree with what he said. While there's nothing inherently unfair about what happened, I have to wonder why someone would essentially commit cartoon suicide in order to get a revenge kill. I dunno. I like to kill the guy that killed me as much as the next guy, but I'm not going to kill myself trying to do it.
What do you guys think?
What I think is that is the way it is. As long as folks think that anything about being a cartoon ace matters, it will continue to happen :)
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I will gladly die in any attempt to kill anyone and everyone who is trying to land kills. If they're angered by not being able to land their kills of me, it was well worth it.
I just really enjoy shooting people, most especially those who do not wish to be shot.
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Hub,
Would you fly 40 game miles to shoot down somebody that beat you in a dogfight fair and square when there are other enemy aircraft much closer to engage?
Would you continue to engage that guy even knowing that you're going to die in the process?
That's my question.
No reason NOT to kill someone, but it's the lengths to which you would go to shoot down one particular person for whatever personal reason.
And my bud wasn't upset that he didn't land kills. Perhaps upset is the wrong word. I don't really want to say anymore than that.
I'm not suggesting what anyone did was 'wrong' or 'unfair'. I would characterize it as 'lame' but that's just my opinion.
edit: I see you did answer the question. I wonder why you would get satisfaction from killing another cartoon plane while dying in the process?
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Well, maybe from his point of view, someone was running away from a fight. He was so pissed that the guy ran for a sector and a half, that he decided to just kill him out of spite even if it meant dying, too. All depends on how you look at it...
Anyway, we get free planes to die over and over again so it doesn't really matter.
P.S. You could have upped an La-7 and helped your friend. Some buddy you are :P
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I think I know who the mystery man is :D
Tell your buddy next time he's in that situation, just show a sign or two of life. It should solve his problem :aok
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I have flown over 50 miles just to kill a squaddie that I know wanted to land. Your buddy gets no sympathy from me. :)
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
I have flown over 50 miles just to kill a squaddie that I know wanted to land. Your buddy gets no sympathy from me. :)
lol, that what makes this game fun right there ^^
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Well Hub, as long as you're having fun, that's what counts!
I fly Bish. I hope we meet so I can pick you in my 190 on one of your suicide runs. It will make this whole dogfighting thing alot easier! :aok
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I killed ghi a couple of times in a BS manner back in June. We were porking a base and he kept upping.
I got him twice I think, and three others. Damned if ghi didn't follow me all the way back and shoot my butt off just as I was lowering on gear my F6F to land my 5 kills. I never saw him coming.
I figured he probably got a good laugh outta that one. Best timing and revenge kill I ever saw ghi.
:lol
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I think I had a satisfying revenge kill once when I got vulched on the field. I didn't chase the guy 50 miles, but I did single him out in the furball and was totally focused on killing him, and him only. When I did, it was pretty sweet.
Now, if you had vulched me 5 times, that's different. I'd probably follow you into anything to kill you.
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i've had the same thing happen before. I thik Skyrock must have channeled me cause i survied two "ubber aces", caused one to auger shot the other down. i was coasting back no fuel about to land when i noticed a LA7 on the water running me down. i had just touched down only to end up in the tower by the first guy that agured. I got a good laugh and couldn't believe someone would be that pissed or what ever it was enough to run me down and kill me before landing. :aok
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Originally posted by Vudak
I think I know who the mystery man is :D
Wasn't me...if that's what you were thinking--I'm hardly "well known" or a "high rank player". Now if the pony driver had been characterized as "alt-monkey, cherry picking, ramming, HOing avacado" I'd have to fess up. :)
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sounds to me like he got under your skin enuf for u to be posting on the forum. if u flew in at 15 and let these guys get a LITTLE bit of altitude, im sure the fight was anything but fair.
He probly wanted to make sure the vulch tard didnt get to land his kills;)
So what if he got him, u got to give the guy some skill credit if he managed to fly into ack with cons on his six TWICE and killed your friend, if i had been him i would have pulled some hard G manuvers threw some hangers, or did a LOOP on him and let the ack have at him. It was your freinds fault for getting himself shot down plain and simple. This guy did what he wanted to do by getting under your skin about it.
If he was a well known ace and your freind shot him down, ususally ther is some banter that ensues afterwords. There is usually more to the story than what we read here.
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Originally posted by WaRLoCkL
sounds to me like he got under your skin enuf for u to be posting on the forum. if u flew in at 15 and let these guys get a LITTLE bit of altitude, im sure the fight was anything but fair.
He probly wanted to make sure the vulch tard didnt get to land his kills;)
So what if he got him, u got to give the guy some skill credit if he managed to fly into ack with cons on his six TWICE and killed your friend, if i had been him i would have pulled some hard G manuvers threw some hangers, or did a LOOP on him and let the ack have at him. It was your freinds fault for getting himself shot down plain and simple. This guy did what he wanted to do by getting under your skin about it.
If he was a well known ace and your freind shot him down, ususally ther is some banter that ensues afterwords. There is usually more to the story than what we read here.
I chased a vulching tiff 2 sectors so he couldn't land his 6 kills. Anyways i ended up hiting him with a 600yard tater. :p
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I had upped an ostie on a base that had a bish horde over it and was raking in the kills. Well I noticed that I killed a certain pilot twice in a row but thought nothing of it. Shortly thereafter while firing on everyone I hear bomb whistles and tried to evade but failed. Same pilot had came back with bombs for my smart butt. I just had to laugh, because I know I would do the same thing if the roles were reversed. Gotta love this game.
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Warlock: It doesn't take much skill to blow across a field in a Pony at ludicrous speed with cons at ones' back without taking a hit.
That's seriously lame. However I love those guys who pop up in an La-7 after I shoot them down to try running me down when I'm rtb, and give me another kill. ;)
I've hunted specific targets due to dweebery on the intended victim's part before, but I don't try to run him down before he can land his kill and dammed if I die in the process. I pick out where he's operating, figure out his M/O, and put myself in a position to catch him next time through. Went all the way up to 25k to hunt down an alt-monkey Tempest dweeb who wouldn't come down and kept picking guys from a 20k perch during the course of 5-6 sorties once, and patrolled the flight path he was using for 15mins only to find out he had moved to a different part of the map after the 6th sortie. :p
I'll tell you one thing though, you sure as hell didn't want to be a Typhoon where I was operating that's for sure. :D
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Warlockl,
He didn't get under my skin. He's shot me down enough times. This isn't about me.
Second, we didn't vulch the field. We weren't trying to CAP the base.
Finally, there was a very brief exchange on 200.
The revenge guy is a good stick, I already told you that.
Maybe there is more to the story. Who knows, maybe one or both of these guys will chime in with their side of the story.
I didn't say anyone was in the wrong here. I didn't say that anything was unfair. Just curious to what lengths folks will go to get a revenge kill, that's all.
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LOL revenge kill, if some moron has to chase me that far to kill me while landing a beat up plane then he has some serious issues. Fair fight or not. I could care less if I land his scalps. I'd be ROFLMAO just knowing that person got that upset he died in a game. It amazes me what some people do in this game.
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though I can appreciate an rtb, If I see someone chasing me, I'm not gonna keep running. Obviously he wanted some action, the chaser is thinking...."fine you don't want to fight me after i've flown all this way, then i'm gonna shoot you in your ack." Personally I have very little sympathy for anyone getting shot down, much less someone who is avoiding a fight for whatever reason. It's just a game, the point being to fight. complaining cause you can't land your kills sounds more like crying because you score is suffering and no one can see you name in lights.
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Well revenge kills are awsome, I dont really do alot of them but i will go back after the plane that took me out of a furball, and if the Muppets are around then i most definetly gun for them, cause i know they are gunning for me, My best fights are when me and agent360 link up in the air. but i always get afraid and know i have to watch my six if i get in on him, cause there will be a muppet from somewhere to make me regret it. but i will just re up and hunt them down again.
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I got mine tonight. Trukk and I were in 38s and had a few LAs and Spits come up at us. We were covering each other back toward our AF when a 262 [Fringe] comes in. I had 2 choices, turn and lose me E and have to deal withe Spits and LAs or wait and jinkwhen he comes in. I jinked and lost my wing.
We uped from the AF [after a break] when we realized there was an enemy carrier there. I up a P-40E and low and behold the first kill I got was Fringe in a Spit.
I think I hurt Trukk's hearing on TS with a WHOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
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I still remember the revenge kill of several years ago.......yes in B17's of course...flew and fought my way into and out of a base ..very intense....I escaped with one shot up B17 seven kills and a prayer........wiith home base in sight.. on final... wheels down skies clear ......bang!!!! im dead!!!!
seems "Goose" who was one of my 7 kills hunted me down low on the deck screaming fast for a bout 5 mintues to catch me landing!!!I had to tip my hat on a job well done!
999000
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if it pisses the other guy off....im all for it :aok
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Toonces if he didn't get under your skin why are you writing about it here?? and if you say it's not about you it's about your friend , can he not write ?
It's a game you killed him he killed "your buddy" so what up another plane and carry on fighting.
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Originally posted by xbrit
Toonces if he didn't get under your skin why are you writing about it here?? and if you say it's not about you it's about your friend , can he not write ?
Gents, I was the squadmate that got whacked. I got mad and then promptly got over it.
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Stoney,
No need to single yourself out. What we chatted about on vox was perfectly valid.
You didn't come off mad. You came off questioning, like me, why someone would go through the trouble.
I'll take the rest to PM.
See ya,
Toonces
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I had this happen to me a few weeks ago. I was in B26's porking ords on a couple fields on ndisles before our CV got too close.
I made 2 passes knocking out ords and had started turning to egress when 3 enemies caught up to me. 1 was a Niki and I think the other 2 were spits. All 3 got shot down as they chose a dead 6 approach, but I lost my 2 drones in the exchange and got a fuel leak on my lead plane. One was from the OreO squad.
So in a single, leaking B26 I decide to dive down to the deck and land on the CV which was 2 sectors away. About half a sector from the CV I look back and see a LA7 5.5 out and closing. Uh oh. Check the rear guns, only a handful of rounds left, definately not enough. Up ahead I see someone upping from our CV and ask if he can give me a hand clearing my 6. He says he will give it a go.
The friendly Zero blows past and makes a HO at the La7. Missed, and the La7 keeps right on coming. I pass over the lead destroyer and make a hard right turn over the CV with the La7 in hot pursuit. I see pieces of the La7s wing come off and think I'm home free. But noooooo ..... Ping, ping, ping, Tower. It was the OreO guy.
He flew half a sector to where I shot him down, then 2 more sectors to catch up to me and eventually shoot me down after getting his wing blown off and just before he crashed into the ocean.
Then the weirdiest thing happened ....
I got in a BRAND SPANKING NEW cartoon airplane and continued flying.:aok
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What about the avenging of the revenge kill.....
As his squaddie you should have hunted this guy down and killed him some more!
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Someone tried to do this to me a few weeks ago. On NDISLES I was RTB'ing very low on fuel with 6 scalps to A10 from A9.
As I was about to flair for landing I saw the base ack start shooting towards the North. I looked and saw an LaLa on the deck just as he had to go over a tree and his icon showed.
I hit wep, pulled in flaps and gear turned into him and defeated his initial pass. Grabed a bit while he was reversing out of ack range and managed to get a ping on him during his second attempt, then the field ack chewed him up.
When the kill message showed up I got the biggest scat eating grin on my face, he was number 6 AND 7.
Kills like that are among the most satisfying in the game.
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Originally posted by Stoney74
Gents, I was the squadmate that got whacked. I got mad and then promptly got over it.
Stoney like you said "got mad and got over it" this other guy brings it to the BBS ??
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Originally posted by toonces3
I'm not suggesting what anyone did was 'wrong' or 'unfair'. I would characterize it as 'lame' but that's just my opinion.
Shooting someone who's in the landing pattern is lame, so far as I'm concerned.
Having said that, I have chased people who really irritated me into their own ack, just to make sure I get them BEFORE they entered the landing pattern.
One night I caught two guys building their scores by having a friendly "please shoot me down" engagement (they told me it was "a squad event"). I politely stayed out of their match, then made certain that I killed the survivor before he could land the kills. That one felt very good, so good that I am just a bit embarrassed to admit it.
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I love the revenge kill, after 7-8 times in a row it doesn't fell as good though. :aok
I lie, yes it does :D
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Originally posted by xbrit
Stoney like you said "got mad and got over it" this other guy brings it to the BBS ??
He's a newer player that's trying to understand what the accepted boundaries of conduct are among the community. It was an honest question.
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....killing a guy twice - nothing is funnier than that - like kill the guy once (fairly), and he ups again for payback, and you kill him again.
About 1.5 years ago I remember flying in a small mission to capture a base on the then new donut map. Very well known "ace stick" (whom I won't name) upped an LA-7 to shoot me down in my Mosquito (I was working the town).
To note: there were other fighters in the immediate area, on the deck, but he chose to pick the "easiest" target. I guess he was thinking he'd start his Fabulous Ace Run with the soft warmup target, then come back around and kill everyone else.
Well, he completely underestimated my Mossie, and I roped him and blew him away real easy.
Enraged, he announced on 200 that I had just signed "my death warrant", and he was coming back to get me. It was like as if he thought his handle/reputation would intimidate me or something.
What did I do ? I flew to the field and vulched him headon, just as he came wheels up off the runway.
Of course my squaddies were ROTFL, along with a lot of other people who saw what happened.
Landing those 20-some perks was sweet... but, the best part of all was the silence that followed - the guy in question logged off immediately - probably went to the kitchen, grabbed the broom, and started sweeping.
Shamroc
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I put a target on top of my canopy.... figured since I get killed so much I would make it more painless.
I have also perfected the art of landing just off the tarmac for a ditch in cases where someone, anyone is trying to kill me.
I am available for classes every 32nd of the month.
NOTE: For a good time... call time service
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One of my funnier revenge kills went like this
We were trying to capture a field with some stiff opposition. No biggy because we were near reset. I'm in a KI61 and attack and shoot down a c205.
Well you know those bananas that hold the trigger down in a decapitated plane. You know the one's. The complete hoper avacados. Well this avacado actually lucky as maybe blows me wing off. That's the first and only time in 5 years of playing that I've been hit by one of these idiots.
So I go :rolleyes: "buggery lucky lucky barstud" to meself prepaired to let it go BUT then the idiot who's name forsakes me, types on 200 "lol lynx". Well friends that was it. Screw the reset and screw this nonce above all else. I was :furious
So I up again and shoot the tosser down 4 times consecutively in 1 sortie. I hate those bananas.
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Originally posted by toonces3
Hey all,
The revenge kill is an awesome thing. Nothing is more satisfying than killing someone that killed you; it's especially sweet if you got killed in some BS manner.
Last night a teammate got revenge killed. I thought it was kind of a BS thing to do, and I wanted to throw it out there to the crowd.
Me and a couple other guys flew over to an enemy base that was empty. It was about a sector and a half flight. We were dispersed a bit but still supporting, maybe 2-6k apart, flying about 15k up. Anyway, eventually some bad guys started upping and we hung out until they got some altitude before we started getting into some fights. Eventually there were 4 friendlies there including me and the bad guy dar bar just exploded. One of my buds shot down a well-known, high rank player in a fair fight. After the fight, he got shot up by another bad guy and we all decided to egress. Unfortunately, based on how we all got separated during the melee, 2 of my teammates egressed to a different base than me. I landed and then went to the tower as my buddies were a few miles out from their field.
My bud that got shot had to throttle back to keep from running out of gas on the way home- he was in a hellcat. This well-known, high ranked player apparently re-upped a Pony, took off and flew flat out to catch my buddies RTB'ing.
Now, by the time we had left, other friendlies had flown in to the evolving furball over the enemy base and there were other guys to shoot down. Instead, revenge guy flew a sector and a half to our friendly field to shoot my buddy down. That in and of itself isn't so BS though. I'd probably do it if I was mad enough. But this guy flew a sector and a half into the field ack. My buddy evaded his pass, although he was slow and damaged and essentially out of gas at this point. A couple friendlies got on the high ranked guys tail and were rapidly closing, yet this guy pressed his attack and shot the tail off my buddy's hellcat on short final on his second pass, about 3 seconds before getting shot down himself.
My bud was kinda upset by this, and I tended to agree with what he said. While there's nothing inherently unfair about what happened, I have to wonder why someone would essentially commit cartoon suicide in order to get a revenge kill. I dunno. I like to kill the guy that killed me as much as the next guy, but I'm not going to kill myself trying to do it.
What do you guys think?
Right when I begin to like you, you post something like this :rofl
I bet you, if you asked the bad guy the story maybe different. Maybe in his eyes he got got ganged by a couple of high cons while he was low and slow after take off and then they tried to run home :rofl
Not saying it is what happened. He might have seen it that way
BTW, there is no fur ball over a field. Thats called picking on the low guys taking off. Very close to vulching with out the ack thread.
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Originally posted by toonces3
What do you guys think?
I think : Muahaha :D
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my best revenge was 1.5-2 years ago, i log in bish out# and rooks were vulching our Comet base, i was trying to up a Comet ,but as i spawned on the runway, :BANG! system;Shawk shot you down! i was trying again, and i made it up through the vulchers nest and look for that FwD9, he was rtbing, but i've been chassing him 1 sector and vaporized him close to his base,even if i had to dich it out of juice, that was verry orguzmatic sensation:D
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Originally posted by ghi
my best revenge was 1.5-2 years ago, i log in bish out# and rooks were vulching our Comet base, i was trying to up a Comet ,but as i spawned on the runway, :BANG! system;Shawk shot you down! i was trying again, and i made it up through the vulchers nest and look for that FwD9, he was rtbing, but i've been chassing him 1 sector and vaporized him close to his base,even if i had to dich it out of juice, that was verry orguzmatic sensation:D
Ahhhh, yes, the good old hunt the SHawk days. think he knew that if he vulched me 1 time, it was time to RTB. I would chase him 3 sectors sometimes going through every ack (a couple of times), HOing his friends that would be upping to save him, so I could kill him landing I
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If the question id "What's acceptable AH behavior?" I gotta say, this one's an individual call. I generally don't care who kills me (Lord knows its a long list!) but there are times that revenge feels very sweet.
Funny that this got posted, because I lived it last night. A Tiffy with alt was picking away over our base, and generally taking advantage of people who weren't smart enough to climb out of range. Unfortunately, that included a squaddy who ended up dying twice, once to a HO. I had upped a B-Stang expecting to ignore the tiff, but loyalty made me go back. I ran a standard immel merge with a little less E than he had, and to no surprise he was blasting away below me with the failed HO. Unfortunately, I screwed up badly by being a little to gentle on the pull back, trying to BOTH make up some of my E disadvantage as well as going for the angle -- and as they say, I fell between 2 stools. He was able to pull onto me as he stalled, and nipped by tail off with those hispanos.
So I'm irritated now, because this guy has 4-5 low skill kills, and I screwed up to give him one of them. He decides its time to run away, because he's pizzed off enough guys that there are 3-4 chasers engaging, and 2 of them were co-alt, lower E with him. I upped an LA7 and chased away.
We all caught up 2k off his base. He lands jsut before we get there. but somebody upped a Hurri2C on seeing the radar. He comes after that with a Spit XVI. The guys on the Hurri misplay their hand, and the hurri keeps twisting enough that nobody can kill it. I made several high yo yo passes, but he evades me as welll...and even though I tried to mainatin E and postion for the oncoming XVI I can't get a good line on either. Meanwhile, the XVI starts cleaning up the target fixated freindlies....I make a pass on the hurri just in time to see the last firendly kill it, and then die to the XVI. But, my move to get on the Hurri left me in position and with low enough E that the XVI is only 400 back. I died...to the same joker that had been in the tiff, it turns out (when he lands another 3).
Long story, fun to tell as an AAR. But did anybody do anything "wrong?" Not at all. He had fun alt picking, and I let him get me. My bad. I didn't like him thinking he was skilled, but on the other hand I died to him twice even though I think my tactics were better. I wasn't bad for running to his base to attack. Really, who cares?
If your bud ran so low on fuel that he had to throttle back on egress, well, thats what happens if you stay too long. Its part of SA. If the other guy did something you thought was dweeby, don't forget that YOU LET HIM -- just like I let the tiff take my tail off.
Just as a general note, I've found you do better in life -- and are happier in the long run -- if you focus more on the part you're responsible for (and LEARN FROM IT) and less on the parts you can blame on others.
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Tell toonces that he just needs to have fun. That is the code of conduct in the community. The game is setup with no rules. Fly to entertain yourself. Only when you're not having fun, are you screwing up.
It's not real life, and you shouldn't be playing a game simply to please other people.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
I have flown over 50 miles just to kill a squaddie that I know wanted to land. Your buddy gets no sympathy from me. :)
:rofl :t :D
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I feel compelled to reply because I want to make this clear, yet again, so I'm not misunderstood- not that it really matters though.
Dedalos,
When I think of 'vulching' a field, that means, to me, making passes at guys either rolling or just off deck over a field, low and slow. I can assure you that wasn't the case. I was in a 190A5, Stoney was in a hellcat, the other squaddie was in a Pony D I think. Not uber rides. We came in with altitude into a sector with no darbar, in between a few fights. If I remember the fight correctly, We were outside or just on the radar ring and Stoney got engaged over a ridge at about 12 or 15k. I didn't even have Stoney in sight, and the other guy was maybe 4k from me. While Stoney was engaged, the other squaddie got engaged, I flew over to him, by the time I got there it was 2 v 1 against my squaddie, and the fight sort of turned into a furball. We started with an altitude advantage, true, but not with the intent to start vulching low guys. While we were there another friendly flew in and the dar bar got huge with red cons everywhere. Stoney got a kill and then we started our egress. I dunno, it's sorta a blur now, but I just feel the need to point out that we weren't vulching.
xbrit,
I'm not 'bringing this to the bbs' like you imply, in my opinion. I didn't name names. I am not suggesting (for like the 5th time now) that anyone did anything UNFAIR OR WRONG. I don't think that it's worth flying a suicide mission to revenge kill someone that legitimately shot you down, but that's my opinion.
To reiterate: I don't have any problem with anyone who chases another person down and shoots them down for any reason whatsoever.
Stoney, nor I, ever said here or on vox that what the guy did was wrong or unfair. I don't want to get too into specifics out of respect for privacy about what we say among ourselves, but to paraphrase Stoney he said something like, "Why would someone fly all the way over here to get shot down just because I killed him?" I wouldn't characterize it as being mad or whining.
The question in and of itself was interesting to me. I brought it to the BBS so I could see what other folks thought about revenge killing. You're putting your own spin on this to make it into a 'what that guy did was wrong' thread, which it isn't. I've given you the context of the question, that is all. I could say who it was, but what difference would that make? The question is still the same, and the guy had every right to do what he wanted which apparently was to shoot Stoney down at any cost.
Finally, not knowing revenge guy's side of the story, for all I know he might feel like he got vulched, might have just wanted to kill us RTB, or was simply heading towards our base anyway. In my opinion it was a revenge kill because the guy should have broken off if he wanted to live, but he obviously just wanted to press his attack at any cost.
My score and Stoney's score are easy enough to check. Stoney has like a 1.8 K/D and 80 some kills, I'm about the same. The killer has well over 550 kills and over a 3 K/D. Clearly Stoney and I aren't overly concerned about landing our kills for a score or any other measure of performance other than the satisfaction of landing a sortie safely. Revenge guy with is top 50 rank and very nice score stands far more to lose from a score perspective than either of us. But maybe he's just really good and doesn't care about score.
I can only tell you the story from my point of view. I have made assumptions about the other guy, but I could certainly be wrong.
Sorry for the overly long post.
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And there is always the question of, how do you know he knew who he was chasing? If I for example see anyone heading for the ack, I will go in it even if I may die as one of the 0s found out in the AvA last night. Do I know if he has a PW or if he is hurt etc etc? Nop. I just think ack runner and go for it :D
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"Zero, do you really think the ack is going to scare me?" said by Dedalos last night on 200.
I did get a laugh out of that.
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Originally posted by toonces3
"Zero, do you really think the ack is going to scare me?" said by Dedalos last night on 200.
I did get a laugh out of that.
:rofl Nothing like a 0 running from a P40 :rofl
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Originally posted by Stoney74
He's a newer player that's trying to understand what the accepted boundaries of conduct are among the community. It was an honest question.
I think there are people that have been playing since AH was beta that are still trying to figure that one out.
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Originally posted by Stoney74
>He's a newer player that's trying to understand what the accepted boundaries >of conduct are among the community. It was an honest question.
There are none. In the Main Arenas, anything goes. Vulching, "Picking", HOing, colliding, milkrunning, altgrabbing, taking up ENY 5 planes - whatever - it's all good.
People who whine about it only whine when they're on the receiving end - you never hear anything from them when the shoe is on the other foot. Usually the ones who complain about it he most vocally (ironically) are the same ones to partake in those Guilty Pleasures themselves. It's like they think that the more they spew the "holier than thou" BS, the more they think people won't suspect they too, do it regularly (probably moreso than the guy they're accusing).
Want a "Gentleman's Fight" ? Go to the DA - that's what it's there for. Get out of our arena - cursed whinetards !!!!!!.
If all these guys complaining in the MA were honest with themselves, they'd never play in the MA - they'd always be in the DA (the MA would be the "dweeb arena for those without skill or honor").
I'd say the only real rule is to not tell people how to play - unless you're paying for another person's account, STFU.
Just MHO
shamroc