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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Simaril on August 24, 2007, 10:13:52 AM
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Seen a whole lot of talk about the Mossy, and the kewl new B-25.
But, I find myself wondering about the other changes with this version -- especially the significant increased weight factor for the P-38G. That can't help but affect the ride for a ride that has its share of passionate pilots.
So what do the fellows of SAPP, and the aeronautic engineers among us, have to say? Does the G still sing for them?
(Asking from curiosity alone....when I fly the P-38, all it sings is "Oh, I am a big fat target...Please, dear Sim, leave me in the hangar for Guppy....yeah, yeah, yeah, oooooooooo")
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It feels more like a mack truck on square wheels...but I still love it!
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Traditionally, all bombers are heavy. Thats why they call them the, well, heavy :rofl
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Couldn't have said it better myself. :D
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It feels a lot more like the J but without the wep. It shuddered and was quicker to stall. It's definately not as nimble as it was, which is too bad, but so it goes. I would guess it won't be as much of a furballer and more of a B n Z bird. Because it's so much more like the J but without the wep, I would imagine the J will get more guys flying it and less will go to the G because it isn't as nimble anymore.
Gonna have to learn to fly it differently.
It's still my baby :)
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Gonna have to learn to fly it differently.
It's still my baby :)
Nobody said you had taste. :p
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At this point the J is the better ride. The G you gave up wep for better turning, but now it's not worth the trade off of a bad view and no wep.
Kinda sucks, because it's not like the G was an overly dominate plane in the arenas. Who cares if it was a bit too light, it's not like it gave it any advantage over all the spit, nikki and LA deewb rides.
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Just because it wasn't as widely flown as the p51ds and la7s doesn't mean it didn't dominate the fights it was in.
The G was always too nimble IMO. Hell you've still got the super flaps helping you out! It never should have turned with spit5s and A6ms, and I'm a little glad it lost a bit of that "uber"ness.
I liked the -G as a plane (same way I like the Ta152), but I'm sure it'll be more interesting to fly now, in a good way.
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Originally posted by Krusty
Just because it wasn't as widely flown as the p51ds and la7s doesn't mean it didn't dominate the fights it was in.
That's probably because the guys that generally flew a G likely knew what they were doing. You didn't see too many noobs flying them.They normally pick the L.
:lol
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Originally posted by crockett
That's probably because the guys that generally flew a G likely knew what they were doing. You didn't see too many noobs flying them.They normally pick the L.
:lol
And they usually died much quicker than if they'd been in a plane that could maneuver.
Theres an awful lot of the "Later is Better" syndrome in this game. L's only advantage is more ords. Other than that I still say the J is the best of the series.
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Originally posted by Treize69
And they usually died much quicker than if they'd been in a plane that could maneuver.
Theres an awful lot of the "Later is Better" syndrome in this game. L's only advantage is more ords. Other than that I still say the J is the best of the series.
The J is the best one now, but IMO the G was the best, once you got over the bad view. Then again, just about anything seems light and nimble after the ride I've been flying as of late.. the 110..
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I never got too enamored with the G, between the view, the shorter range, and the lack of WEP. It also seemed even more PW prone and didn't dive as well.
J was my fave once I'd gotten used to all 3. Still the one I grab when my inner SAPPer oozes his way out of the bar and to the flightline.
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Originally posted by Treize69
I never got too enamored with the G, between the view, the shorter range, and the lack of WEP. It also seemed even more PW prone and didn't dive as well.
J was my fave once I'd gotten used to all 3. Still the one I grab when my inner SAPPer oozes his way out of the bar and to the flightline.
The G was more of a in the action or on the deck p38. Wasn't that great at the BnZ's and so on.
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Bla bla bla bla,
The B26 with more guns is a lot better and the B17 gives you the extra safety of the 4 engines
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Originally posted by crockett
The J is the best one now, but IMO the G was the best, once you got over the bad view. Then again, just about anything seems light and nimble after the ride I've been flying as of late.. the 110..
Actually the L model is still the better of the three...just sayin'.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by crockett
The G was more of a in the action or on the deck p38. Wasn't that great at the BnZ's and so on.
The G was and is still good in the vertical. You just can't stretch out the vertical like you can with the J and the L because of the lack of WEP but other than that, it is still a potent plane in the vertical.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by dedalos
Bla bla bla bla,
The B26 with more guns is a lot better and the B17 gives you the extra safety of the 4 engines
:noid :noid
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
The G was and is still good in the vertical. You just can't stretch out the vertical like you can with the J and the L because of the lack of WEP but other than that, it is still a potent plane in the vertical.
ack-ack
Yea that's what I was meaning if you want to BnZ pick either the J or the L. Not saying you can't do it in a G but it was the better suited for turn fighting.
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Wait, you're saying I shouldn't turnfight in my L? oops
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No, you should continue flying straight and level at all times so I can keep killing you while you chase Fencer, Rap. :t
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Originally posted by crockett
Yea that's what I was meaning if you want to BnZ pick either the J or the L. Not saying you can't do it in a G but it was the better suited for turn fighting.
I don't think that by fighting in the vertical he meant to BnZ. They are two different things
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WORDS BY KRUSTY
The G was always too nimble IMO. Hell you've still got the super flaps helping you out! It never should have turned with spit5s and A6ms, and I'm a little glad it lost a bit of that "uber"ness.
:huh Do you ever know what the hell your talking about or do you just
spew non-true facts just to see ur post count go up?
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If you fly them at the same weight the L will certainly outshine the J or G.
The problem is getting it down to the same weight.
The L is definitely the best of the 3 overall but it is heavier so you cant do the same things with the same amount of fuel on board as the others.
But the addition of boosted ailerons and dive flap certainly make the L more capable than the J, especially for guys who fly a 3D fight.
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I thought the G was better before it Sally Struthered on 600 LBS.
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Originally posted by Gumbeau
The L is definitely the best of the 3 overall but it is heavier so you cant do the same things with the same amount of fuel on board as the others.
Whatever the J can do, the L can do it as well.
ack-ack
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Geee I did not know I could not turn fight on the deck in a 38L..... I didn't get the memo.
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
I thought the G was better before it Sally Struthered on 600 LBS.
Yep it was, I used to LOVE the 38G it was nimble and a great plane to suprise the spitty jocks with. I have not flown her since her weight gain, any of y'all S.A.P.P guys give any insight on her new performance. Lastly if the performance has turned south too badly, I will use my next favorite 38J.