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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: crockett on August 26, 2007, 12:11:12 AM
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20430153/
Pretty sad that this is the govt our soldiers are dieing for..
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rampant corruption without checks is the difference between a first world power and a third world shiphole.
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Originally posted by JB88
rampant corruption without checks is the difference between a first world power and a third world shiphole.
Yea I guess we are now a third world shiphole..
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it's worse in those places. but let's go ahead and ride that train a little further and see where it takes us einstein.
:rolleyes:
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The stuff that these guys reveled was probably classified by the Iraq government , therefor they need to be prosecuted.
shamus
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Originally posted by Shamus
The stuff that these guys reveled was probably classified by the Iraq government , therefor they need to be prosecuted.
shamus
Most of them worked for US companies or for the US govt and reported the issues. Only one of them worked for an Iraqi company. The corruption is just as bad on the US side as it is on the Iraqi side.
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Whistle blowers have always paid the price for blowing the whistle on stuff. It isn't right by any means.....just the way it is and has been. Should that change? Yes.
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are you trying to tell me that the more power any government has the more that they abuse it?
Is this the same government a lot of you want to run your healthcare?
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
are you trying to tell me that the more power any government has the more that they abuse it?
Is this the same government a lot of you want to run your healthcare?
lazs
Gotta love you die hard right wingers.. You will excuse anything away by trying to change the subject.
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Not blaming anyone, just a general observation...
It's amazing how this country has changed so that companies now run everything and get away with anything. Lawsuits are brought against the alleged swindlers, and they just dissolve away. Happens in Iraq, happens here at home, happens with both Donkeys and Elephants.
A modern version of Lincoln's Gettysburg address would conclude:
"...a government of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations shall not perish from this earth."
While laz is right about gov't running healthcare, sad thing is, the future of company run healthcare doesn't look too bright either.
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This is from the link article at msnbc.com.
He had thought he was doing a good and noble thing when he started telling the FBI about the guns and the land mines and the rocket-launchers — all of them being sold for cash, no receipts necessary, he said. He told a federal agent the buyers were Iraqi insurgents, American soldiers, State Department workers, and Iraqi embassy and ministry employees.
Steering this back on track...
Selling to American Soldiers, State Department workers, and MAYBE Iraqui embassy and ministry employees...Ok.
But to insurgents??? Have you guys' forgotten that american soldiers are over there, having to face this crap every day? Healthcare for citizens' is the last thing on an insurgents' mind, guys.
American soldiers are dying because of this ****.
This is actual treason. Whoever is responsible for the sales' should have to stand tall before the man.
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This is actual treason. Whoever is responsible for the sales' should have to stand tall before the man.
I agree, but it's not going to happen.
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Originally posted by kamilyun
Not blaming anyone, just a general observation...
It's amazing how this country has changed so that companies now run everything and get away with anything. Lawsuits are brought against the alleged swindlers, and they just dissolve away. Happens in Iraq, happens here at home, happens with both Donkeys and Elephants.
A modern version of Lincoln's Gettysburg address would conclude:
"...a government of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations shall not perish from this earth."
While laz is right about gov't running healthcare, sad thing is, the future of company run healthcare doesn't look too bright either.
You might like this, from 1946
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-461990723502527420
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Originally posted by x0847Marine
You might like this, from 1946
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-461990723502527420
ya ,ya , boosh ist deutschland, deutschland ist boosh.:rolleyes:
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But the question is which way have we gone on the various scales in the last 8 years?
shamus
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bigger government.
vast amounts of over spending.
rights diminished.
closed door secretive government that doesn't trust it's people.
corporate interests overtaking the peoples interests.
that's which way weve gone.
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I don't know about the weapons but I wonder what part of the boat that was...cool pic. I had to go back to it a dozen times since yesterday before it struck me the way it did the last time. It actually works better small than full page, you don't get distracted by all the details.
augustradio.com
Word.
Mark
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wow. how did you know it was part of a boat?
it is a part of a boat. (http://www.augustradio.com/2007/08/untitled-object-double-click-to-enlarge.html)
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Originally posted by JB88
wow. how did you know it was part of a boat?
it is a part of a boat. (http://www.augustradio.com/2007/08/untitled-object-double-click-to-enlarge.html)
The only visual clue was the wiring harness coming through the wood pannel. It looked like something you'd find on a boat, a small boat. I did boats for a few years, bass boats. Built up two of them and worked on a few of my friends boats.
I just knew it was part of a boat. It felt like it.
Word.
Mark
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well done gumshoe!
:D
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jb said..
"bigger government.
vast amounts of over spending.
rights diminished.
closed door secretive government that doesn't trust it's people.
corporate interests overtaking the peoples interests.
that's which way weve gone."
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And... he is correct. It started with FDR mainly... LBJ gave it a giant boot and then the klinton machine got it really going... now.. the republicans are getting into the game with patriot act and that sort of thing.
I guess it is just the price we have to pay... We get the government we deserve.. and a bunch of whiny socialists wanting bigger and bigger government are gonna get their way no matter what party is in power.
Different flavor to lost rights with each power but no party restores what the other took... not in any meaningful way.. they just add their own version of diminished rights.
All the while we sit and smugly give more and more power to them because... that year... it is "our" guy... never realizing the next guy will use it to bite us in the butt.
We smugly vote and/or condone rights being taken from others because we don't care about that right or.... we just don't like that "type" or... we think we can save money by nannying a group... or.. we are just the type who like to tell people what they can't do.
And the government is more than happy to oblige... to take the power.
lazs