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Title: Rewarding law breakers
Post by: Tiger on August 28, 2007, 12:00:52 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294901,00.html

Let's give the kid a new car for hacking the iPhone.  Why not give him a trial date and a lawsuit?

Title: Rewarding law breakers
Post by: lasersailor184 on August 28, 2007, 12:24:59 PM

Maybe I missed it, but which laws did he break?

Title: Rewarding law breakers
Post by: indy007 on August 28, 2007, 12:26:09 PM

So, if I take apart my blender and install a better motor...

I should have to eat a lawsuit from the manufacturer for upgrading their product?

Title: Rewarding law breakers
Post by: SkyRock on August 28, 2007, 12:27:00 PM

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Originally posted by indy007
So, if I take apart my blender and install a better motor...

I should have to eat a lawsuit from the manufacturer for upgrading their product?

hE BROKE NO LAWS!

Title: Rewarding law breakers
Post by: indy007 on August 28, 2007, 12:34:46 PM

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Originally posted by SkyRock
hE BROKE NO LAWS!

Didn't think he did when I read the article last week. Kinda curious why Tiger thinks the kid is a criminal for it.

Title: Rewarding law breakers
Post by: Curval on August 28, 2007, 12:40:31 PM

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Originally posted by indy007
Didn't think he did when I read the article last week. Kinda curious why Tiger thinks the kid is a criminal for it.

He works for AT&T?

Title: Rewarding law breakers
Post by: Tiger on August 28, 2007, 12:46:29 PM

Civil law, not criminal law

iPhone is licensed only for AT&T network.  Making a "work around" for that is probabaly a nice violation of the customer agreement he signed when he purchased the phone.

Title: Re: Rewarding law breakers
Post by: 2bighorn on August 28, 2007, 12:52:48 PM

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Originally posted by Tiger
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294901,00.html
Why not give him a trial date and a lawsuit?

LMAO

OK, the only possible broken law in this case would be violations of Apple's iPhone software license which includes all embedded software like firmware etc.

Unfortunately for Apple (and other mobile phone providers),  USCO has added few exemptions to DMCA. One of the recently added was modifying cell phone firmware that ties a phone to a specific wireless network.

From the horses mouth:
"The underlying activity sought to be performed by the owner of the handset is to allow the handset to do what it was manufactured to do—lawfully connect to any carrier. This is a noninfringing activity by the user. The purpose of the software lock appears to be limited to restricting the owner’s use of the mobile handset to support a business model, rather than to protect access to a copyrighted work itself."

Title: Rewarding law breakers
Post by: indy007 on August 28, 2007, 12:52:49 PM

I'd have to read the TOS. Still seems silly. At worst, a voided warranty.

Title: Rewarding law breakers
Post by: 2bighorn on August 28, 2007, 12:54:56 PM

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Originally posted by Tiger
iPhone is licensed only for AT&T network.  Making a "work around" for that is probabaly a nice violation of the customer agreement he signed when he purchased the phone.

Read my previous post

Title: Rewarding law breakers
Post by: WilldCrd on August 28, 2007, 01:07:48 PM

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Originally posted by Tiger
Civil law, not criminal law

iPhone is licensed only for AT&T network.  Making a "work around" for that is probabaly a nice violation of the customer agreement he signed when he purchased the phone.

Umm i could be wrong here BUT, You dont sign any agreement when you buy the phone. You do when you signup with ATT however i dont think it covers altering YOUR phone. If anything he voided his warrenty but he didnt actually do anything against the law.
Nothing malicious was done to either the iphone ppl or the ebil ATT demons from the 9th lvl of dantes hell....but i digress