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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Austox on August 29, 2007, 09:20:28 PM
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EVERYONE THAT WANTS IT BACK POST HERE
I really hope its not gone because i cant pay the 15 dollars. dont have a job, I dont even have a drivers licsence...
Man this sucks sooo bad. I just got my bro to play and we were about 2 start fighting each other, but then, we clicked on 8 player, and it said game not available...
and dont post if u just have something negative to say about what i just wrote!
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Sorry Austox, but a few bad squeakies ruined it for everyone.
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ok im really confused.
what exactly happened?
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I could tell you, but then Skuzzy would have to kill me.
;)
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lol. Now that I have been reduced to H2H, im with you! It would be great to have it back :(
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Originally posted by Stang
I could tell you, but then Skuzzy would have to kill me.
;)
Not unless you bribe him with a chocolate donut :D
Since H2H is gone, does that mean we will have a new server for the MA?
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Originally posted by Meatwad
Not unless you bribe him with a chocolate donut :D
Since H2H is gone, does that mean we will have a new server for the MA?
jumping the gun?
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i want 8 player to come back
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It will be back some day.
probably when a system is put into place that makes people more trackable and permanitly bannable for there offenses.
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Good riddance to bad moochers.
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Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
It will be back some day.
probably when a system is put into place that makes people more trackable and permanitly bannable for there offenses.
something that's popped up on the 17th's forums is when making an account, have a URL adress that you have to go to (sent via email) to activate your account proving that it's a real account, it may be easy to get by, but i think it'd help.
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
jumping the gun?
Probabally. I have a tendency to do that pretty frequently.
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Originally posted by trigger2
something that's popped up on the 17th's forums is when making an account, have a URL adress that you have to go to (sent via email) to activate your account proving that it's a real account, it may be easy to get by, but i think it'd help.
How would it help? The only benefit would be the IP popping up, yet that is received when the join applet is sent to the HTC servers. I see no benefit in this.
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I don't play in H2H but I will say this....
If the return of H2H depends on the ability to ban someone from playing, don't hold your breath. There is no good or effective way to ban 1 person from playing. All it takes is changing one bit of information and they'd be back playing again.
Before someone argues that point. Please think it through. Nothing exists in your connection that can't be changed.
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Originally posted by NHawk
I don't play in H2H but I will say this....
If the return of H2H depends on the ability to ban someone from playing, don't hold your breath. There is no good or effective way to ban 1 person from playing. All it takes is changing one bit of information and they'd be back playing again.
Before someone argues that point. Please think it through. Nothing exists in your connection that can't be changed.
except your IP adress
so if they find a way to ban a person by the IP adress theyre done...
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Originally posted by trigger2
except your IP adress
so if they find a way to ban a person by the IP adress theyre done...
Your IP address can be changed as easily as your underwear.
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I would love to see these H2H threads stop coming up. We all know H2H will be coming back. HT is just setting it up so it is being tracked better for hackers. H2H IS COMIN BACK! YAY
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How about this? The FE generates a signature using a part of the user hard drive. An example would be the serial number (don't get exited, it is very easy to change it. It just an example). Maybe use the boot sector or a part of the windows programs, mark a cluster bad in the disk and save infor there, etc.
So, When you sign up, HT creates that signature that cannot be changed since you wont know what part of the disk they used to generate it. Only way to change it would be to format your C drive (in theory at list). Sig stays the same, HT can track you.
Can I get a free month for this? :rofl
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Only, you're talking about folks that have already hacked into the exe, and probably could find the code that generates the ID and edit it (thus avoiding the ban list)
There are all sorts of ways around being banned. Unfortunately. Some of those rejects don't deserve the second, third, fourth chances that they abuse.
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WOOOOT! H2H Closed!!! WTFG HITECH!:aok :aok :aok
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Originally posted by dedalos
How about this? The FE generates a signature using a part of the user hard drive. An example would be the serial number (don't get exited, it is very easy to change it. It just an example). Maybe use the boot sector or a part of the windows programs, mark a cluster bad in the disk and save infor there, etc.
So, When you sign up, HT creates that signature that cannot be changed since you wont know what part of the disk they used to generate it. Only way to change it would be to format your C drive (in theory at list). Sig stays the same, HT can track you.
Can I get a free month for this? :rofl
This is hacking itself... NO!
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Few bad apples ruined the bunch huh ? I must say I did enjoy dipping into H2H for a quick fight every now and then . I will be interested to see what events unfold here in the future.I did experience a lot of cursing and unsportsman like behaivor but hey what can be expected from a bunch who plays for free and who the majority of which have not hit puberty yet ?
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I see negitive theads on getting H2h back whats up w/ that?
hope you never need support, good looken out bro
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I'm no programmer, but you could use the mac addy of the hard drive, nic card etc.........wont stop those determined to cause trouble, but would be a pain in the backside having to swap components out for the ability to.
Hopefully H2H will come back up, I dont fly there, but some of the ppl who fly there and in the MA are good fella's. (Cant speak for the rest of them, dont know them..lol)
Wurzel
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Originally posted by jcracker
I see negitive theads on getting H2h back whats up w/ that?
hope you never need support, good looken out bro
Want support? Pay for it like the rest of us have to. Want to play in an 8 person server with no semblance of reality in a totally BS arcade game? Buy IL2-1946.
Either way don't whine about lack of support in a freeloader game.
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Originally posted by Treize69
Good riddance to bad moochers.
Yep.
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Originally posted by dedalos
How about this? The FE generates a signature using a part of the user hard drive. An example would be the serial number (don't get exited, it is very easy to change it. It just an example). Maybe use the boot sector or a part of the windows programs, mark a cluster bad in the disk and save infor there, etc.
So, When you sign up, HT creates that signature that cannot be changed since you wont know what part of the disk they used to generate it. Only way to change it would be to format your C drive (in theory at list). Sig stays the same, HT can track you.
Can I get a free month for this? :rofl
Oh my god....I think hell has frozen over. I actually agree with something you said!
It's a good theory, though I'm not sure how virus scanners would react to an attempt to write to the boot sector. I'm pretty sure Norton would jump all over it.
But we all know any security measure can be cracked. It's just a matter of time.
And I'm not trying to be negative with the H2H players. I've never concerned myself with H2H and really never paid attention to it until recently. It was kind of hard not to pay attention when H2H topics popped up in the General forum. I sincerely hope there is a way for H2H to re-open since I know what it's like to lose your ability to play AH or whatever your favorite addiction is.
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Originally posted by NHawk
Oh my god....I think hell has frozen over. I actually agree with something you said!
It's a good theory, though I'm not sure how virus scanners would react to an attempt to write to the boot sector. I'm pretty sure Norton would jump all over it.
But we all know any security measure can be cracked. It's just a matter of time.
:rofl
No need to write there. Anywhere on the disk will do and then mark it as bad so it does not get over written. What is funny is that this is 1980s copy protection technology for games on the old 5.25" floppies :rofl I was hoping someone would catch it.
gpwurzel:
Everything can and will be hacked eventually. The idea is to make it so hard that if someone does hack it they deserve to play for free :rofl (Thats a joke, don't shoot me lol) Changing a mac address takes less time than posting this reply.
There are easier ways to do it. You could use the same mechanism the banks use when you do online banking. HT could with a little effort keep track of the free loaders but maybe he figures that it is not worth his time and trouble. Free is a good marketing tool but maybe his stats say that it did not bring in enough customers to justify his trouble. If you did not sign up after the free trial I don't think you are ever going to. You will keep playing for free. Does that sound fair to you? Does any of you work for free?
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Actually I did catch it. I just don't ever recall it being applied to a hard drive.
That protection method was quickly broken with low level copiers. And I think that's about all I'll say about that since we're getting uncomfortably close to forbidden discussions.
Working for free? Right off hand I can think of about 360 hours worth of work I've done for free in the recent past. :rolleyes:
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One thing I've noticed is some of the H2H guys showing up in the MA with subscriptions.
So i guess the "we cant afford it line" can be circumnavigated when you need to play AH online :aok
A big welcome to the increasing player base ~S~
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Originally posted by NHawk
Actually I did catch it. I just don't ever recall it being applied to a hard drive.
That protection method was quickly broken with low level copiers. And I think that's about all I'll say since we're getting uncomfortably close to forbidden discussions.
Nah, its a thing of the past. No one using it now. On the floppies, they used to format an extra track at the end of the disk. DOS disk copy would not read it since I think back then it was only looking for 40 and later 80 (am I right?) tracks but their software would look for it and thats how it verify the copyright.
On a hard drive, and that was done by the early boot sector viruses a lot, they would replace the boot sector with the virus code and move the original at the end of the drive and mark it as bad so that it would not get over written. Virus code run first on boot and then it loaded the original so the computer would start. Some copy protection was done this way but anyone that had a copy of Norton Utilities or any other disk tools could get around it.
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that is the supidest thing i ever heard HTC allready knows
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I want H2H back more than alot of people but I dont want them to give it back now if they are going to have to shut it down again next week, hopefully they are working out the problems the best they can.
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that is the most rediculous thing i ever heard/ if you go to an HTC server they ay, hence the computer allready knows, what a dweeb crowd. IT is their business not yours. lol How stupid are kids today??????? It amazes me that young punks want to infitrate a fine operation/ i been to to prison and sooner or later murder may come to play if you keep that up. contact hawaii 50
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Originally posted by Meatwad
Not unless you bribe him with a chocolate donut :D
Since H2H is gone, does that mean we will have a new server for the MA?
H2H was a client host thing, not on HTC server. so no freed up server for us to use.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by gpwurzel
I'm no programmer, but you could use the mac addy of the hard drive, nic card etc.........wont stop those determined to cause trouble, but would be a pain in the backside having to swap components out for the ability to.
Hopefully H2H will come back up, I dont fly there, but some of the ppl who fly there and in the MA are good fella's. (Cant speak for the rest of them, dont know them..lol)
Wurzel
Banning a MAC address is the way to go for the reasons you stated. You'd need to replace your network card if you'd want to circumvent the ban.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by BEARING3
that is the most rediculous thing i ever heard/ if you go to an HTC server they ay, hence the computer allready knows, what a dweeb crowd. IT is their business not yours. lol How stupid are kids today??????? It amazes me that young punks want to infitrate a fine operation/ i been to to prison and sooner or later murder may come to play if you keep that up. contact hawaii 50
You really need some serious psychological help and Aces High is not the place to seek that help. I'm not joking, you do have some serious mental issues that need to be addressed. Threatening murder over a game is silly and just a sign that you've lost all touch with reality.
Oh and...
(http://dawn.thot.net/book_him_dano.jpg)
ack-ack
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why do you people paste another, i really don't get it, this is great game you will find no where else:eek: :eek: :eek:
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that is my favorite show hawaii 50
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Banning a MAC address is the way to go for the reasons you stated. You'd need to replace your network card if you'd want to circumvent the ban.
ack-ack
Oh yeah, I can see it now...
1) Military base with internet access provided by the military.
2) Obtain MAC address for a network card.
3) Have every law enforcement agency in the United States break down your doors.
Many systems consider obtaining a MAC address a network attack and will bring every available legal hammer on down your head.
Besides, MAC addresses are not routable. You have to connect directly to the computer to obtain it's MAC address. It can be done, but it's not as easy as it sounds.
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Errrrrm....as I understand it, every peice of equipment connected to your pc, that you use to connect to the web with, has an individual mac address (16 character unique identifier). If you connect through a router, nic card etc, the mac address is made available to the isp you connect to - so in theory you would not have to create alarms on any monitoring solution you have. Then again, I may well be wrong.....lol.....that wouldnt be too unusual for me.....only been doing this 7 years or so.......
Wurzel
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that is the most rediculous thing i ever heard/ if you go to an HTC server they ay, hence the computer allready knows, what a dweeb crowd. IT is their business not yours. lol How stupid are kids today??????? It amazes me that young punks want to infitrate a fine operation/ i been to to prison and sooner or later murder may come to play if you keep that up. contact hawaii 50
Bearing3
Bearing, do me a favour fella, take your meds or something..........
Wurzel
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Originally posted by Bruv119
One thing I've noticed is some of the H2H guys showing up in the MA with subscriptions.
So i guess the "we cant afford it line" can be circumnavigated when you need to play AH online :aok
A big welcome to the increasing player base ~S~
im not proud of being one of those that subbed out of need of this game, now its harder to get money for the car i want when i turn 16, since i have to pay for it with my paycheck
damn hobbytown wages....
bring it back and just ip ban the bad squeaks
*proud to call himself a paying squeak*
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I am for H2H returning but if they do as last time and dont take enough time to ensure the problems dont return then why bring it back so soon.
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book him Danno. BEARING3 on whisky:rofl :rofl :noid :aok . Damn that guy is popular. I bet he can fly too:D
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i've been in the H2H a few times when i first started and got a lesson from somewhere there right off the bat.. Nice chap... so it does have its useage.. anyways
Now i'm not sure if this would work or not, but i've seen it used on other games and seemed to work fairly well.. H2H is on hightech servers right? sooooo why cant the make it if someone changes anything, anything at all with the game exe or even a reg file that shouldnt be messed with, when they login, the server see's this hence deney them access to it?? again. i might not know what i'm talking about.
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7years, why are you going around reviving dead threads?
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Originally posted by Denholm
7years, why are you going around reviving dead threads?
Uh Den, thats bearing.
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I want H2H with a B29 back!
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Originally posted by mentalguy
Uh Den, thats bearing.
There's too many, hard to keep up.
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Originally posted by 7years
book him Danno. BEARING3 on whisky:rofl :rofl :noid :aok . Damn that guy is popular. I bet he can fly too:D
No he can't. I ran across him when he sadly made the mistake and entered the MA a week or so ago. I shot his arse down 1/2 turn after merge. You could definitly say Bearing3 cannot fly a cartoon airplane to save his life. Honestly, the offline drones present more of a challenge.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by odin3
i've been in the H2H a few times when i first started and got a lesson from somewhere there right off the bat.. Nice chap... so it does have its useage.. anyways
Now i'm not sure if this would work or not, but i've seen it used on other games and seemed to work fairly well.. H2H is on hightech servers right? sooooo why cant the make it if someone changes anything, anything at all with the game exe or even a reg file that shouldnt be messed with, when they login, the server see's this hence deney them access to it?? again. i might not know what i'm talking about.
H2H wasn't hosted on HTC servers, just the "lobby" was. The H2H rooms were hosted by the client (player) and that's what made H2H vulnerable to cheating.
ack-ack
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I have a wish, for the wishlist: For everyone to just let H2H rest in peace.
It's gone. Sorry.
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Originally posted by TwinBoom
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hahaha
that really suits the situation.
the horse is dead, and it is not getting back up.
mmmmkk, if you really care that much about H2H find a buddy and play LAN.
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how local is LAN
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Originally posted by PanzerIV
hahaha
that really suits the situation.
the horse is dead, and it is not getting back up.
mmmmkk, if you really care that much about H2H find a buddy and play LAN.
Or you can go play IL2, right?
ack-ack
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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
I have a wish, for the wishlist: For everyone to just let H2H rest in peace.
It's gone. Sorry.
Amen and Amen.