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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: nirvana on August 30, 2007, 12:53:43 AM
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What a doozy, 5 points for engaging in an exhibition of speed and 4 for careless driving. Court date set for the day i was supposed to do MEPS too which is nice. Oh yeah, I also got my other 2 friends caught. I was unaware that accelerating hard constitutes an exhibition of speed but that's why I'm not an officer of the law.
w00t insurance rates:cry
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Wow....judges dont look kindly on racers. Even if you were racing or not. Get a lawyer, your parents may be footing the bill now but you'll be sorry later when you're paying the insurance at 22 and can't get a quote lower than 400 a month. 9pts seems a bit extreme though.
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Interesting ... you state that you were unaware that accelerating hard is considered exhibition of speed?
What did you think you were doing? ... just burning up extra gas for no particular reason? ... behind the wheel and sent brain on holiday? ... just wondering.
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Tickets and insurance premiums=money makers. It's all about cash for the boys.
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Originally posted by nirvana
w00t insurance rates
LOL ~ least you got a sense of humor about the thing:D
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dayyum son.
you got a lead...lower body?
:rofl
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He gave us a break, street racing is 12 points.
I normally accelerate hard, it's just how I drive. May have been something to do with driving backroads at 10:30 and having 2 other people pull up next to me at the stop sign. What's done is done though, just needed to sorta vent.
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well, did you win the race?
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Originally posted by nirvana
He gave us a break, street racing is 12 points.
I normally accelerate hard, it's just how I drive. May have been something to do with driving backroads at 10:30 and having 2 other people pull up next to me at the stop sign. What's done is done though, just needed to sorta vent.
When someone does that, just let them go. Its not worth it.
Accelerating hard all the time puts too much wear on an engine IMO.
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I feel for ya... you will learn to look around tho.
I cut my teeth on street racing... even ran a few times. I had hundreds of street races and even more at the dragstrip...
Even today I will smoke the tires and powershift at 6800 in a small block chevy powered healey... I let off at anything past about 120 or so.. I use a gtech to check acceleration.
They don't like it? catch me or... better yet... build some frigging dragstrips
The area here is flat and the country roads straight for miles.
The difference is that when you get older you do it for yourself and not your "friends".
Both of my hot rods are capable of safely filling the street with tire smoke.
It does seem odd tho that the law is against accelerating hard when it is the safest way to pass another car.. I was stopped for that once but since I got right back in the lane and let off as soon as I did and... the HP had no idea of how fast I was going.. there was no ticket.
lazs
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I know in Michigan you'd be risking losing your License if all 9 points were awarded to you. You may very well be in the same predicament.
You should have gotten the 12. My Aunt needed 3 rounds of plastic surgery to correct damage done to her face by two drag racers.
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Originally posted by nirvana
What a doozy, 5 points for engaging in an exhibition of speed and 4 for careless driving. Court date set for the day i was supposed to do MEPS too which is nice. Oh yeah, I also got my other 2 friends caught. I was unaware that accelerating hard constitutes an exhibition of speed but that's why I'm not an officer of the law.
w00t insurance rates:cry
Do I understand your insurance company will now about this ??
Why ? you didn't damage your car nor created an accident.
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Wow, and they let you drive home? Be glad you weren't in PA! Six points will result in loss of privileges(or at least a safety re-test), and anything that remotely APPEARS to be street racing will get your license (physically) taken from you. You will also be calling for a ride home that night. In, addition, your car will be impounded. The reason being is that since you won't be allowed to drive, the police have it towed to their lot so they are not "responsible" for anything that happens (vandalism, etc) to your vehicle, since you had to abandon it due to loss of privileges. (Just a money making giimmick)
This may sound extreme, but remember, PA is technically not a state. It is a commonwealth which basically means they can do what they feel like , for the most part.
As for the insurance company, points are points. Accident, damage, or not, points are only given out for "un-safe" drivng.
Improve your SA. It helps even in the real world. LOL
Have fun @ MEPS. When you drop a urine sample, drop your pants to your ankles like a little kid, they love it!!
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2 pieces of advice:
(1) Quit being a handsomehunk.
(2) Get a lawyer.
That is all.
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Make sure you let your recruiter know what is going on. It will affect you if you don't.
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Originally posted by Hornet33
Make sure you let your recruiter know what is going on. It will affect you if you don't.
Yeah, what he said!
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May I suggest you get a tattoo on your forehead that reads....
SSABMUD
So others looking in the rearview mirror can see you coming?
:O
Mac
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Lazs, I can't understand why you're not in Baghdad. You get to drive fast and shoot guns at the same time.
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Originally posted by KONG1
2 pieces of advice:
(1) Quit being a handsomehunk.
(2) Get a lawyer.
That is all.
LMAO...best tip yet!
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Ah, don't beat yourself up about it. My second day driving I got a ticket going 90 in a 55 (the cop cut me a break ;) ). Thank God the judge's brother also owned an SHO, so he could relate. (And that I was in upstate NY, where the rules are a little, um, "different..." - hats in court, anyone?)
You should be warned, however, that if you make a habit of this, you probably won't live all that long - at least not with a guilt-free conscience.
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How old are you?
Here is what will get your license revoked in CO....
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The following is a list of points causing a suspension:
ADULT DRIVER (over 21)
12 points in any 12 consecutive months.
18 points in any 24 consecutive months.
MINOR DRIVER (18 years or older)
9 points in any 12 consecutive months.
12 points in any 24 consecutive months.
14 or more points between the ages of 18-21
UNDER THE AGE OF 18
6 points in 12 consecutive months.
7 points prior to turning 18
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Originally posted by straffo
Do I understand your insurance company will now about this ??
Why ? you didn't damage your car nor created an accident.
Straffo,
The insurance company can do a license check of their insured drivers. If the check shows a significant number of points (assigned for moving violations like speeding etc) they often raise your rates since your record indicates you are not driving in a proper manner. In other words the risk is greater when you drive stupid so they want the stupid driver to pay and not everyone else.
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I can understand but here it don't work the same way, to raise your rate you have to make some accident and be responsible of not just having a ticket.
What kind of ticket make your rate increase.
For example can a parking ticket have such effect ?
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Straffo, "moving" violations, I beleive. A parking ticket will do more damage to your credit rating if left unpaid than anything else :)
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i had a neighbor that got thrown into debtors prison for unpaid parking tickets.
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Thats straight to jail here if they think your racing. Lucky you.
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Understood Paul , it's the answer I expected.
WhiteMan if I forgot I'm in neutral and push the pedal may I got to jail ?
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I know in Philly, after "X" number of tickets, or "X" amout of time w/o paying parking tickets, they give you the "boot". This gets attached to one of your tires, and you can't get it off, or drive your car.
Any other cities have this? I'm sure were not the only one, even though we were the first city to have a courtroom at our football stadium.
Go Eagles!
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Originally posted by straffo
Understood Paul , it's the answer I expected.
WhiteMan if I forgot I'm in neutral and push the pedal may I got to jail ?
Maybe depends if the cop is a salamander. Most likely exhibition of acceleration or reckless driving even though your going no where. Racing here got out of control from 90-2000 so they have dropped the hammer on people now. I mean when you see a car with a chute fly by it might be time to tuffing up.
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and rpm... while you may not understand why I'm not in bagdad.. I can't understand why you haven't moved to england.
If I were younger and had the choice between a few years in iraq or living the rest of my life in england... I would be in iraq so fast your head would swim.
lazs
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Originally posted by VonMessa
I know in Philly, after "X" number of tickets, or "X" amout of time w/o paying parking tickets, they give you the "boot". This gets attached to one of your tires, and you can't get it off, or drive your car.
Any other cities have this? I'm sure were not the only one, even though we were the first city to have a courtroom at our football stadium.
Go Eagles!
New Jersey
I think that if the unpaid tickets hits a certain amount the next time they get you, they just take the car and sell it.
Same as if they find any type of illegal drug in the car. It's gone.
If you still had a car loan, the bank is forced to hand over the title to the state. The bank call the balance of the load due within 30 days.
The also doing that for unpaid child support.
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I thought violations were expunged at 18 but i guess it's 21. Anyway, i'm 17 and my birthday is August 3rd. Court is the 29 so I hope they lower the points or else I'm dead in the water.
Hornet: Just got off the phone with him.
Mac, Kong: Sound advice, may have to put tape across it when I have to get another job to pay the insurance though, employers tend to look down on tattoos, especially ones that say SSABMUD.
Lazs: Heres the sad part, we were on the way home from the drag strip, numbers still on the car and everything which I'm sure made the officer feel just peachy. However, my car only goes 30MPH at 6,000RPM (red lines at 6500).
I wouldn't even call it a race. It was 10:30 and pitch black except for my headlights, hence I couldn't see anything except what was in front). Friends stopped next to me and I gave it some gas, second gear I gave it a little more. Anyway, the lesson has most definitely been learned and I guess that's what is supposed to happen.
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Originally posted by lazs2
and rpm... while you may not understand why I'm not in bagdad.. I can't understand why you haven't moved to england.
lazs
Because they have issues with my weaponry collection and the weather stinks.
Oh, and they drive on the wrong side of the road.
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i've managed to avoid tickets with incredible success. i've only ever even seen a cop while doing something stupid once, and i had more than enough time to slow down.
accidents i've just been damn lucky though. oddly enough, i havent come close to one above 2nd gear yet.
better sirens than a trip to the bodyshop, or worse, though
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Originally posted by nirvana
I thought violations were expunged at 18 but i guess it's 21. Anyway, i'm 17 and my birthday is August 3rd. Court is the 29 so I hope they lower the points or else I'm dead in the water.
They'll be on your record for at least a year, and for 2 years for Insurance purposes. Since you "already got a break", you will probably be dead in the water.
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If I were younger and had the choice between a few years in iraq or living the rest of my life in england... I would be in iraq so fast your head would swim.
lazs
Hey Lazs, is it ok if I come with ya.....getting really down about how this country is going..........????
Wurzel
Oh, and we dont drive on the wrong side of the roads, its everyone else....so ner...:aok
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Cops tend to target young people with sports cars they are like catnip for cops.........You should buy a radar detector.
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wurzel.. if you don't like the direction your country is going then you are more than welcome to come here so far as I am concerned... I know a few exbrits who think like that and they make better Americans than most Americans.
RPM... other than the gun thing... you like the socialism tho right?
nirvana... I do feel your pain... the country has really gotten nannyish. It is like we don't want boys to be boys... if a boy child acts like a boy child in socialist public schools... they drug him.
Any boy who doesn't involve himself in risky behavior will never grow up to be a man.
lazs
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
Cops tend to target young people with sports cars they are like catnip for cops.........You should buy a radar detector.
radar detectors are great when they are running radar. Nothing like blowing down the road at 90 and getting an instant full bar of red. :O
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Nirvana, check into diversion.
The local prosecutor will let you plead to a lesser non-moving (ie: no points) charge that will not go to your insurance company.
In return, you will pay a much larger fine, typically 2X or 3X normal and get some dippy punishment like going to a driver's safety class.
Your lawyer will know if this is possible in your area.
It usually is, after all this is all about money for the local taxing authority, not safe streets.
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
Cops tend to target young people with sports cars they are like catnip for cops.........You should buy a radar detector.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
You are so full of it here. :lol
You don't normally get to see the drivers face until just about the time of or right after the vehicle stops. Kinda hard to "target young people" because of that.
Of course it couldn't possibly be that folks who have sports cars tend to drive them fast and aggressively..... Nah, that couldn't possibly be the case. I'm sure folks who have sports cars, muscle cars and built up ricers all drive like the proverbial old lady on her way to church every Sunday morning.
I used to love folks with radar detectors. They would get so mad some of them would throw the detector across the car. It went off just in time to tell them they had been nailed.
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by lazs2
Any boy who doesn't involve himself in risky behavior will never grow up to be a man.
lazs
Sig-worthy!
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Well in the spirit of this thread I managed to help a young lad around last Christmas get a few tickets for "excesive" driving. I kinda felt bad about it but I couldn't help myself. Here's the deal.
I was coming home from the local mall after doing some Christmas shopping in my truck. I drive a 2001 Dodge Ram 1500. I have a 5.9L V8 in it, a 2" lift, 31's mounted on a nice set of Mickey Thompson wheels, painted fire engine red with custom graphics down the side, and 3" dual exhuast with glass packs dumped out the back. My truck is loud and looks agressive. That's why I bought it.
Anyway I pull up to a stoplight in the right hand lane. As I'm looking around the intersection I see a cop off to my right just sitting in this parking lot just on the other side of the intersection behind this sign. I can see him and he can see me. OK no big deal. This young Navy kid pulls up beside me in his little rice burnner car with the trash can muffler sticking out the back, extra gages mounted on the top of the dash, big wing on the back, the whole street race package.
Well he looks at me and my truck and starts reving his little 4 banger engine and stuff. I'm thinking to myself this kid isn't that stupid with a cop sitting right over there but I figure what the hell why not have a little fun. I hold my breaks and romp the gas once and jump my truck a little bit. This kid gets a big grin on his face and nods at me. OKAY!!!!!!!
I look back over at the cop and he's looking at me with this "Your not about to do what I think your about to do" look on his face. The light turns green, the kids hits the gas and burns his tires all the way through the intersection. I never move and give the cop a freindly wave as he pulls out in front of me to go after the kid.
I saw them both on the side of the road a couple of blocks up. They both see me coming. The kid is giving me the finger, the cop is laughing, and I went home.
Merry Christmas dummy. Youth was fun, but in that instance I was so glad I was older and wiser.
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LOL Hornet. Nice one.
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:rofl Nice Hornet!
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i am curious, is there a law that states what rate of acceleration is considered too much? And how do the police measure it?
of course the police can always use the vague and subjective "reckless driving" or "careless driving" or "too fast for conditions" or "operating a motor vehicle in a dangerous manner" or "i thought he was a bank robber".
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it seems around here you can take off as fast as you want. Just don't blast the speed limit, and don't smoke your tires and you'll be fine.
(DISCLAIMER: this info may change without warning, and im am not held reliable if i am wrong)
:noid
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Nice job Hornet.........made me giggle.......best one I've done was a while ago.......on my way home after a fishing match (off a cold beach.....lol)...pulled up to a set of traffic lights in my Calibra 4 x 4.......(quite a quick car for the UK, at the time anyway) and sit there waiting for it to change. This is at 3am btw (this is important to remember). Up alongside me pulls a little vauxhall (GMC) Nova....loud stereo, side lights, loud exhaust kinda deal. Looks across at me.....as I'm looking across at him.....I grin, he grins n nods.........both sat there reving engines........lights change, I go backwards as I've purposely selected reverse......he's so surprised he nearly dont make it round the roundabout just past the lights, and was even more surprised when I caught him up and went past waving...lol............(and yes, I laughed so much I nearly crashed....much to the annoyance of the guy getting a lift off of me....lol)......
Wurzel
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Originally posted by Hornet33
I drive a 2001 Dodge Ram 1500. I have a 5.9L V8 in it, a 2" lift, 31's mounted on a nice set of Mickey Thompson wheels, painted fire engine red with custom graphics down the side, and 3" dual exhuast with glass packs dumped out the back.
You got the mullet and pornstash to go with that compensator?:D
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Originally posted by KONG1
You got the mullet and pornstash to go with that compensator?:D
LOL:rofl
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Originally posted by john9001
i am curious, is there a law that states what rate of acceleration is considered too much? And how do the police measure it?
of course the police can always use the vague and subjective "reckless driving" or "careless driving" or "too fast for conditions" or "operating a motor vehicle in a dangerous manner" or "i thought he was a bank robber".
I'd say if your leaving a trail of smoke and the car is making lane changes on it's own that might be accelerating to fast.
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Originally posted by john9001
i am curious, is there a law that states what rate of acceleration is considered too much? And how do the police measure it?
of course the police can always use the vague and subjective "reckless driving" or "careless driving" or "too fast for conditions" or "operating a motor vehicle in a dangerous manner" or "i thought he was a bank robber".
Negatory, section 42-4-1105 For purposes of this section, "speed contest" means the operation of one or more motor vehicles to conduct a race or a time trial, including but not limited to rapid acceleration, exceeding reasonable and prude speeds for highways and existing traffic conditions, vying for position, or performing one or more lane changes in an attempt to gain advantage over one or more of the other racing participants.
Officer decides what is too rapid, and notice the obligatory "including but not limited to..." We did get hit with the careless driving as well, which is much better than reckless driving. I was only going 30 in a 35 when i saw the lights turn on and slowed down though. It's all subjective on what kind of night the officer is having I guess.
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Originally posted by KONG1
You got the mullet and pornstash to go with that compensator?:D
No mullet but I do have the pornstash:D And no it's not a "compensator"
I actually use it to tow with but after almost 20 years of driving POS used trucks and stuff so my ex-wife could have a new car every 3-4 years I wanted a truck I could be proud of so I went out and got one. First truck I've ever owned that is fully loaded with all the options other than leather. I hate leather in a truck. I hate cars even more. I've only owned 1 car that was mine. That was a 2000 Mercury Sable. It was a nice car. Great on gas but I hate sitting that close to the road. Can't see anything and I felt like I was driving a go cart.
I like full size trucks and love my Dodge. It's my baby!!!:aok
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Sorry Hornet, made me think of this:
(http://ahgreenhearts.org/pw.jpg)
BTW. Is your name Buck?
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For Petes Sake Kong1............coffee, nasal passages, keyboards and desks do not mix.............lmao....
:aok
Wurzel
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Originally posted by nirvana
Negatory, section 42-4-1105 Officer decides what is too rapid, and notice the obligatory "including but not limited to..." We did get hit with the careless driving as well, which is much better than reckless driving. I was only going 30 in a 35 when i saw the lights turn on and slowed down though. It's all subjective on what kind of night the officer is having I guess.
Theres really nothing "subjective" about it. Watching two cars drag is about as obvious as getting shot at, or, getting a cold bucket of water thrown on your head. Where it gets complicated is when you have three lawyer pukes, counting the judge, in a court, dancing around language and trying to decide whos day it is to preen more.
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" vying for position, or performing one or more lane changes in an attempt to gain advantage"
i've seen a couple old men in a camry doing exactly this with a couple punks on sport bikes over a 40 km stretch of highway...
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For purposes of this section, "speed contest" means the operation of one or more motor vehicles to conduct a race or a time trial, including but not limited to rapid acceleration, exceeding reasonable and prude speeds for highways and existing traffic conditions, vying for position, or performing one or more lane changes in an attempt to gain advantage over one or more of the other racing participants.
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i think that would cover driving to work in the morning.:rofl
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Originally posted by Hornet33
I was coming home from the local mall after doing some Christmas shopping in my truck. I drive a 2001 Dodge Ram 1500. I have a 5.9L V8 in it, a 2" lift, 31's mounted on a nice set of Mickey Thompson wheels, painted fire engine red with custom graphics down the side, and 3" dual exhuast with glass packs dumped out the back. My truck is loud and looks agressive. That's why I bought it.
Great story. :aok
I never figured out why people put "glass packs" on trucks. Ok, it's louder.... it's still slow.
I mean, I know the custom graphics add another 25 HP or so but still.... it's just a riced out truck, really. :rolleyes:
No doubt your truck is a sturdy, comfortable, pulling brute.... why pose as something else?:
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My trucks not "riced" out. "Hicked" out maybe but that's what I was going for. As for the glass packs, well it makes it sound like a truck is supposed to sound.
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Originally posted by Hornet33
My trucks not "riced" out. "Hicked" out maybe but that's what I was going for. As for the glass packs, well it makes it sound like a truck is supposed to sound.
sorry, we just have a difference of opinion. Graphics and mufflers meant for anything but muffling on a non performance vehicle means poser/rice to me. Enjoy your truck, I hope it brings you much satisfaction. :aok
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Originally posted by lazs2
RPM... other than the gun thing... you like the socialism tho right?
lazs
You mean the universal healthcare? I actually like that a lot.
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Originally posted by nirvana
What a doozy, 5 points for engaging in an exhibition of speed and 4 for careless driving. Court date set for the day i was supposed to do MEPS too which is nice. Oh yeah, I also got my other 2 friends caught. I was unaware that accelerating hard constitutes an exhibition of speed but that's why I'm not an officer of the law.
w00t insurance rates:cry
what were you driving? what were your friends driving? how did you all act towards the police officers? ya might be able to get most of this downgraded to non-points stuff IF you weren't really racing.......when i was young, i had a LOT of run ins simply because i had long hair, and drove a loud mustang with a huge snorkel scoop....oooo yea.....i also had the bad attitude which didn't help.......
good luck!
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Originally posted by Meatwad
When someone does that, just let them go. Its not worth it.
Accelerating hard all the time puts too much wear on an engine IMO.
actually, it doesn't..unless you over-rev....the absolute WORST thing you can do to your engine.........turn that key and start it. that's actually when you get the most wear on bearings and cylinders.
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Originally posted by straffo
Do I understand your insurance company will now about this ??
Why ? you didn't damage your car nor created an accident.
insurance companies regularily check drivers records now, from what i'm told
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Originally posted by Maverick
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
You are so full of it here. :lol
You don't normally get to see the drivers face until just about the time of or right after the vehicle stops. Kinda hard to "target young people" because of that.
Of course it couldn't possibly be that folks who have sports cars tend to drive them fast and aggressively..... Nah, that couldn't possibly be the case. I'm sure folks who have sports cars, muscle cars and built up ricers all drive like the proverbial old lady on her way to church every Sunday morning.
and do you REALLY think a 40 old man will be driving a honda civic with a 5 foot tll wing on its trunk, and slammed to the ground with dual fart cans sticking out the back? it IS very easy to pick out younger drivers
1)actually some do.......i had a 12 second mustang.......drove it just like an old man, as it was no sleeper,,,,it looked the part and sounded it too.......once i got it to the track though........
I used to love folks with radar detectors. They would get so mad some of them would throw the detector across the car. It went off just in time to tell them they had been nailed.
2)most detectors now DO pick up "instant on" radar.,.i know..i had/have one, and it's not let me down yet. it also saved me from a lot of tickets from the haddonfield nj fundraisers....warwick rd, 25 mph limit.....do 26 or 27, they nail ya........and they had instant on and laser,,,,,,both of which are defeated by decent detectors. THIS is why i originally bought mine, not because i wanted to do 90 there......
:rolleyes:
hey...another tip.....IF you're gonna keep driving fast.....and i am NOT reccomending it.......but pace yourself about 1/8 of a mile behind someone doing the same speed...combined with a decent radar detector, you're covered. also...on the highway...if you're over the speed limit....stay slow enough that there's trafic passing you
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Originally posted by john9001
i am curious, is there a law that states what rate of acceleration is considered too much? And how do the police measure it?
1)they use their accelerometer eye
of course the police can always use the vague and subjective "reckless driving" or "careless driving" or "too fast for conditions" or "operating a motor vehicle in a dangerous manner" or "i thought he was a bank robber".
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Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. A normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow. But he won't know what to make of your blinker signal that says you are about to turn right. This is to let him know you're pulling off for a proper place to talk. It will take him a moment to realize that he's about to make a 180 degree turn at speed, but you will be ready for it. Brace for the g's, and fast heel-toe work.
(http://www.lasvegassun.com/from.ed/1998/may/18/photos/P000020601.jpg)
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rpm... well yeah... wanting other people to pay for your health care is..... socialism.
I am careful where I get on it most of the time. We still have miles and miles of back roads with good pavement and straight as an arrow that I can get to in a few minutes.
I use a g-tech on the dash to check acceleration and 1/4 mile times when I modify the car. The chance of ever seeing a cop is astronomical.
I never go much over 120mph or so on those roads tho but... that really doesn't take long.. I can even see a farm truck on a road a mile ahead and get to those speeds and back down before he even gets to the intersection....
Safe as a house.
I think it is crazy that we have honda civics with 6 speeds and 200 hp and we have hemi station wagons and we all act like speed and acceleration are evil.
I know a dozen guys who have over 600 hp cars... more like 700.
Both my hot rods will run in the 12's with street tires and mufflers.
My lincoln is invisible. I gotta get the windows tinted darker tho so they can't see that I am not being a good little subject and not wearing my seatbelt.
lazs
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Originally posted by CAP1
hey...another tip.....IF you're gonna keep driving fast.....and i am NOT reccomending it.......but pace yourself about 1/8 of a mile behind someone doing the same speed...combined with a decent radar detector, you're covered. also...on the highway...if you're over the speed limit....stay slow enough that there's trafic passing you
Cap1,
If you want to copy or quote a post while you respond to it that's great but you really need to learn how to differentiate from the original post vs what you want to say. The way you quoted and responded to mine makes it look as if your response is part of my post.
Assuming you really intended to say something I figured I ought to reply to what you spliced to my post.
Originally posted by CAP1 and do you REALLY think a 40 old man will be driving a honda civic with a 5 foot tll wing on its trunk, and slammed to the ground with dual fart cans sticking out the back? it IS very easy to pick out younger drivers
1)actually some do.......i had a 12 second mustang.......drove it just like an old man, as it was no sleeper,,,,it looked the part and sounded it too.......once i got it to the track though........[/B]
Going back to my post you might notice I was talking about sports cars and not specific "ricers" most of whom spend their night sitting rather than driving. That's fine as long as they have permission to do so. No go back again the the original post I quoted in my response. It was about racing and driving fast. The allegation is that the Cops target sports cars because the drivers age.
Let me be specific. Once again, you don't see the drivers face until the stop in the majority of the cases. Since you can't see the driver you can't be targeting the age of the driver. You are targeting the BEHAVIOR of the driver. That behavior might be tied to the fact that they like to drive fast and aggressively and that would also color their choice of vehicle to drive.
Most folks who have a sports car get them because they are trying to impress folks and or just like the performance. Now that performance is also demonstrated on the roads because few of them are loathe to spend the $ to rent track time. Demonstrating that performance can get you a ticket when you violate the traffic laws. Now I'm sure you want to blame that on the Cops instead of the person behind the wheel. That causal relationship doesn't fly very well.
Drivers also range from the young to those trying to recapture their youth and in the older folks who are in the middle of a middle age crisis. It really doesn't matter as it's not the age of the driver that's the issue, it's the BEHAVIOR of the driver that is the problem.
Originally posted by CAP1 2)most detectors now DO pick up "instant on" radar.,.i know..i had/have one, and it's not let me down yet. it also saved me from a lot of tickets from the haddonfield nj fundraisers....warwick rd, 25 mph limit.....do 26 or 27, they nail ya........and they had instant on and laser,,,,,,both of which are defeated by decent detectors. THIS is why i originally bought mine, not because i wanted to do 90 there......[/B]
You can make all the claims you want for the detector. My actual experience in using the equipment is what I base my statement on. The detector goes off just in time to let you know you have been clocked. Before you can react I would already have your speed.
A detector does work in those cases where there is a stationary unit just pointing down the highway like a lot of Highway Patrol units work. You get advance notice from the signal splash and beam being transmitted down the road towards you in advance of the return range.
We had a suburb to the North that had a reputation for issuing tickets for 2 MPH over the limit. The Chief of Police in that little town finally got tired of it and got on the news, print and TV. He stated that if anyone could bring him a ticket for that speed or even 5 mph or less over the limit in his jurisdiction he personally would pay the fine for them. No one ever took him up on the offer or ever produced a ticket for 1 to 2 mph over the limit. Frankly I'd love to see one, I've never known of one being written although there are a lot of claims about it.
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
Cops tend to target young people with sports cars they are like catnip for cops
With good reason
Originally posted by RAIDER14
You should buy a radar detector.
You should obey the driving laws, then you wouldn't have worry about whether or not you'll 'be caught' doing something.
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I saw a news story the other day about a new nanny device that will call you if your kid's car exceeds a preset speed. You also can call the device and get the current location of the car. I wish I could remember the name.
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I heard of a similar device at driver's ed. 3 years ago, only it was a small camera mounted to the rear-view mirror and some sort of device that records speed along with it.
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No attitude to the officer unless he dislikes obedient first time offenders scared about what their parents will do in the morning. I was driving a 1996 Ford Probe SE, I don't know how you race in that but it is what it is.
Rich: Is "rapid acceleration" a most definite stance on what acceleration is proper or is it subjective to the officer's view?
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rapid acceleration in a probe? :lol
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Police are people too...no need to insult them by doing burnouts in front of em.
took the big block out yesterday with the grand daughter... did a 150' sideways burnout... she loved it.
of course... everyone does. and why wouldn't they?
Don't you guys ever do anything just for fun once in a while? just to get the juices flowing?
lazs
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Originally posted by vorticon
rapid acceleration in a probe? :lol
Wait until your first colonoscopy, junior........ :O :O
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Originally posted by Maverick
Wait until your first colonoscopy, junior........ :O :O
AMEN!!!
Mac
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Perhaps some people should consider buying themselves a nice dildo… It would be a much less expensive substitute for a noodle than the hopped-up cars and speed fines.
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Originally posted by rpm
I saw a news story the other day about a new nanny device that will call you if your kid's car exceeds a preset speed. You also can call the device and get the current location of the car. I wish I could remember the name.
Wonder if there's some kind of way that I could link a car phone into their radio speakers:
"beep, beep, beep... mileage indicator shows above pre-designated limit."
stereo which was previously blasting is auto-silenced on Mom's remote command:
Sweetheart, bring your friends back home and then come on back. You're car privileges have been removed for once again driving over the preset limit, honey.
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Originally posted by Maverick
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
You are so full of it here. :lol
You don't normally get to see the drivers face until just about the time of or right after the vehicle stops. Kinda hard to "target young people" because of that.
Of course it couldn't possibly be that folks who have sports cars tend to drive them fast and aggressively..... Nah, that couldn't possibly be the case. I'm sure folks who have sports cars, muscle cars and built up ricers all drive like the proverbial old lady on her way to church every Sunday morning.
I used to love folks with radar detectors. They would get so mad some of them would throw the detector across the car. It went off just in time to tell them they had been nailed.
:rolleyes:
I've witnessed the radar detector warning about cops beyond visual range. For laser there's the built in scrambler.
Only way to get caught with the detector is if the cop activates the radar just on the spot and doesn't illuminate the car in front of u etc.
I thought the detectors were BS untill I saw it in action. They're strictly illegal in Finland btw. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by vorticon
rapid acceleration in a probe? :lol
S'what I said but it's over now, just waiting for court and driving super careful.
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You really should at least look into diversion with the local prosecutor. Might save you a bunch in the long run, not the short run.
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Diversion you say? Explain please.
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As I said earlier ;)
Originally posted by Toad
Nirvana, check into diversion.
The local prosecutor will let you plead to a lesser non-moving (ie: no points) charge that will not go to your insurance company.
In return, you will pay a much larger fine, typically 2X or 3X normal and get some dippy punishment like going to a driver's safety class.
Your lawyer will know if this is possible in your area.
It usually is, after all this is all about money for the local taxing authority, not safe streets.