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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Rich46yo on August 30, 2007, 08:42:24 AM
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How far from a enemy airbase do you have to be before you cant be seen by fighters? Say Im up 15,000' to 20,000' and they are in that ME-163 and up high themselves. Or another fighter? Its starting to strike me as strange how enemy fighters show up in meaningless sections of map.
Then there is the other possibility. That players share information on their own team in order to run up their kills. You can see you own teams little green dots anywhere on the board right? How hard would it be to mssg, phone call, or even sit side by side with a friend on the enemies team and share info?
Yesterday I ran into some guys doing a mission and they told me they were below 200' and off the screen. Well I should have told them I saw them clear as day all the time. I'm starting to wonder about all this myself and beg to ask why we even have the green dots in the first place? It seems to me they take away the advantage of surprise and give nothing back in return. Activity is already registered in the comm scrolls.
Shouldn't we at least have the option of turning off friendly dots?
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I pretty sure I don't have a clue as to what you are asking, Rich, can you please try again?
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I'm only a Colonel so I can't answer your question.
Shall we wait for the General together?
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Huh?:huh
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
How far from a enemy airbase do you have to be before you cant be seen by fighters? Say Im up 15,000' to 20,000' and they are in that ME-163 and up high themselves. Or another fighter? Its starting to strike me as strange how enemy fighters show up in meaningless sections of map.
They show up because there is a nice darbar indicating your presence. With some experience it's most of the time quite easy to guess where that enemy contact is & where he is going to.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
How far from a enemy airbase do you have to be before you cant be seen by fighters? Say Im up 15,000' to 20,000' and they are in that ME-163 and up high themselves. Or another fighter? Its starting to strike me as strange how enemy fighters show up in meaningless sections of map.
Then there is the other possibility. That players share information on their own team in order to run up their kills. You can see you own teams little green dots anywhere on the board right? How hard would it be to mssg, phone call, or even sit side by side with a friend on the enemies team and share info?
Yesterday I ran into some guys doing a mission and they told me they were below 200' and off the screen. Well I should have told them I saw them clear as day all the time. I'm starting to wonder about all this myself and beg to ask why we even have the green dots in the first place? It seems to me they take away the advantage of surprise and give nothing back in return. Activity is already registered in the comm scrolls.
Shouldn't we at least have the option of turning off friendly dots?
You were probably visible bu dar bar. Dar bar in a meaningless section of the map means buffs. Easy o figure out.
What do you mean by you could see them? Visual, green dar, red dar?
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Well at least Scotty I can understand, and whom contributed to the thread. I'll be succinct.
1,How far away can fighters see bombers?
2, How much cheating goes on in the game and how hard would this be.
That players share information on their own team in order to run up their kills. You can see you own teams little green dots anywhere on the board right? How hard would it be to mssg, phone call, or even sit side by side with a friend on the enemies team and share info?
3, And really, what are the chances that an airplane that can only fly for a few minutes just happens upon you 2 sectors away from its base out in some Godforsake'in corner of the map?
So what do the friendly green dots accomplish? And why do we have them? Its obvious there is cheating and info sharing going on. So how do they help the game? And shouldn't we have the option of turning them off? Because with them there is no hidden place you can be, or go to, and avoiding radar is really irrelevant.
Forget the Generals kid Ive known dyslexic privates that can understand English.
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Originally posted by dedalos
You were probably visible bu dar bar. Dar bar in a meaningless section of the map means buffs. Easy o figure out.
What do you mean by you could see them? Visual, green dar, red dar?
Thank you for responding. I'm assuming "green dar" and "red dar" means the green and red actually around your airplane right? And has nothing to do with the map and the dots? If thats the case how far away do you have to be for someone to not be able to see you? Ive been sectors away and still observed. Was it blind luck, superhuman eyes, the game, or cheating?
Ive seen enough references to spies and rats in the comm scrolls to accept that there are spies in the game. And with thus being so? Wouldn't it be wise to at least allow the turning off of friendly green map dots?
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Well at least Scotty I can understand, and whom contributed to the thread. I'll be succinct.
1,How far away can fighters see bombers?
2, How much cheating goes on in the game and how hard would this be.
That players share information on their own team in order to run up their kills. You can see you own teams little green dots anywhere on the board right? How hard would it be to mssg, phone call, or even sit side by side with a friend on the enemies team and share info?
3, And really, what are the chances that an airplane that can only fly for a few minutes just happens upon you 2 sectors away from its base out in some Godforsake'in corner of the map?
So what do the friendly green dots accomplish? And why do we have them? Its obvious there is cheating and info sharing going on. So how do they help the game? And shouldn't we have the option of turning them off? Because with them there is no hidden place you can be, or go to, and avoiding radar is really irrelevant.
Forget the Generals kid Ive known dyslexic privates that can understand English.
1. I think dot vis is 10K but not sure.
2. No idea how much cheating goes on but it's a bit of a frowned upon topic on the BBS. Certainly users with shade accounts could conceivably use a second computer to spy, or could team up with friends to spy.
3. The 163 is only available at rear bases, only one or two per side I think and can climb to intercept rather quickly. That might explain what you are seeing. Also some guys like to hang about the back bases in orbit on highly populated maps, knowing there are some others like yourself going for the long range missions. My advice to you is to work on your gunnery so you can blow them out of the sky.
Green dots I feel are very useful, if you've ever flown in the SEA and lost the rest of your squad or whatever, you'll know what I'm talking about.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Well at least Scotty I can understand, and whom contributed to the thread. I'll be succinct.
1,How far away can fighters see bombers?
2, How much cheating goes on in the game and how hard would this be.
That players share information on their own team in order to run up their kills. You can see you own teams little green dots anywhere on the board right? How hard would it be to mssg, phone call, or even sit side by side with a friend on the enemies team and share info?
3, And really, what are the chances that an airplane that can only fly for a few minutes just happens upon you 2 sectors away from its base out in some Godforsake'in corner of the map?
So what do the friendly green dots accomplish? And why do we have them? Its obvious there is cheating and info sharing going on. So how do they help the game? And shouldn't we have the option of turning them off? Because with them there is no hidden place you can be, or go to, and avoiding radar is really irrelevant.
Forget the Generals kid Ive known dyslexic privates that can understand English.
Do you understand that you are visible by darbar all the time or do you not know what we are talking about? Yea, people may tell people where someone is heading but what makes you think they would just target you? You really think your buffs are that important? Again, you are visible at all times at 20000
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Thank you for responding. I'm assuming "green dar" and "red dar" means the green and red actually around your airplane right? And has nothing to do with the map and the dots? If thats the case how far away do you have to be for someone to not be able to see you? Ive been sectors away and still observed. Was it blind luck, superhuman eyes, the game, or cheating?
Ive seen enough references to spies and rats in the comm scrolls to accept that there are spies in the game. And with thus being so? Wouldn't it be wise to at least allow the turning off of friendly green map dots?
The dar bar is in the upper left corner of each sector on the map and indicates the relative number of friendlies and enemies in each sector. It does not indicate position other than the population within each sector. It uses the radar and can be evaded by flying NOE, under 200 feet.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Well at least Scotty I can understand, and whom contributed to the thread. I'll be succinct.
1,How far away can fighters see bombers?
2, How much cheating goes on in the game and how hard would this be.
That players share information on their own team in order to run up their kills. You can see you own teams little green dots anywhere on the board right? How hard would it be to mssg, phone call, or even sit side by side with a friend on the enemies team and share info?
3, And really, what are the chances that an airplane that can only fly for a few minutes just happens upon you 2 sectors away from its base out in some Godforsake'in corner of the map?
So what do the friendly green dots accomplish? And why do we have them? Its obvious there is cheating and info sharing going on. So how do they help the game? And shouldn't we have the option of turning them off? Because with them there is no hidden place you can be, or go to, and avoiding radar is really irrelevant.
Forget the Generals kid Ive known dyslexic privates that can understand English.
Sorry but it seems like you have been shot down a few times and now trying to blame this on "cheating".
A single players buff run is simply not important enough to be spyed upon. Like I pointed out before: With soem experience is's very easy to track enemy buffs down.
BTW, any talk about "How much cheating goes on in the game and how hard would this be." is frowned upon - read forum rules.
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Originally posted by scottydawg
It uses the radar and can be evaded by flying NOE, under 200 feet.
Actually, min Dar alt is 500. ;)
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Originally posted by Lusche
Actually, min Dar alt is 500. ;)
I knew that. I was just making sure YOU knew.
;)
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Originally posted by scottydawg
I knew that. I was just making sure YOU knew.
;)
:rofl :aok
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I agree they can be useful. Which is why it would be great to have the option of turning them on or off.
If its only 10,000' then without doubt there is something going on. Forget about the forum they talk about it in comms all the time. It would be a trulky strange community if "talking about cheating" is more "frowned upon" then the actual cheating itself.
Why do you need a "shade account"? All you need is a telephone, or nudge the guy sitting next to you. You can have 2 accounts in the same house right?
I'm not talking about gunning here. Thats for another thread. Nor am I just talking about the 163. The guys who have mastered it strike me as fairly honorable types. I'm just using it as an example.
But for that matter whats it matter "if" I do shoot them down? All they have to do is bail, jump right back into another one at the same base, and come right back. By the 9'th or 10'th 163 they will probably have hosed the greatest Buff gunner. And by then they have broad casted the location and heading of the Buffs anyway so the jigg is up no matter what. It doesn't take a genius to figure out where your heading and which way your going to come back.
Which brings me back to my point. Once deception is lost in 270 mph bombers its lost for good. I actually do better flying thru heavily traversed sectors, as long as I have air, then I do isolated ones. And as long as your own team can see you on the map there is no "hiding" and it dont matter how many radars you avoid. Shoot a fighter down, and if you far enough behind lines, he can keep re'appearing in you path with little effort. Most of all in the maps with no water and high airfields.
Originally posted by scottydawg
1. I think dot vis is 10K but not sure.
2. No idea how much cheating goes on but it's a bit of a frowned upon topic on the BBS. Certainly users with shade accounts could conceivably use a second computer to spy, or could team up with friends to spy.
3. The 163 is only available at rear bases, only one or two per side I think and can climb to intercept rather quickly. That might explain what you are seeing. Also some guys like to hang about the back bases in orbit on highly populated maps, knowing there are some others like yourself going for the long range missions. My advice to you is to work on your gunnery so you can blow them out of the sky.
Green dots I feel are very useful, if you've ever flown in the SEA and lost the rest of your squad or whatever, you'll know what I'm talking about.
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I had a feeling you were going to pop in and say this. I wasnt talking about you Lusche cause you strike me as an honorable man and I know for a fact your kills come from considerable skill.
I'm not "blaming anyone". I'm 50 yo and about 30 years past that. If its a "rule" then I'll cease participating in the thread. Its talked about easily enough in the comms so I assumed it was allowed.
Originally posted by Lusche
Sorry but it seems like you have been shot down a few times and now trying to blame this on "cheating".
A single players buff run is simply not important enough to be spyed upon. Like I pointed out before: With soem experience is's very easy to track enemy buffs down.
BTW, any talk about "How much cheating goes on in the game and how hard would this be." is frowned upon - read forum rules.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
But for that matter whats it matter "if" I do shoot them down? All they have to do is bail, jump right back into another one at the same base, and come right back. By the 9'th or 10'th 163 they will probably have hosed the greatest Buff gunner. And by then they have broad casted the location and heading of the Buffs anyway so the jigg is up no matter what. It doesn't take a genius to figure out where your heading and which way your going to come back.
There is only one 163 base on each map - to protect the HQ. Everybody venturing close to that base has to know he has very little chance to get to target - unless flying in a huge mission which may overwhelm the enemy, or going NOE.
Against all other planes, a combination of altitude & careful route planning is your best defense. While I may be able to intercept you one time, I will have almost no chance to get to you again before you get to your target when shot down.
BTW, I knew you weren't to try to blame anyone specific, but I just wanted to point out what kind of impression that posting gave.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
I agree they can be useful. Which is why it would be great to have the option of turning them on or off.
If its only 10,000' then without doubt there is something going on. Forget about the forum they talk about it in comms all the time. It would be a trulky strange community if "talking about cheating" is more "frowned upon" then the actual cheating itself.
Why do you need a "shade account"? All you need is a telephone, or nudge the guy sitting next to you. You can have 2 accounts in the same house right?
I'm not talking about gunning here. Thats for another thread. Nor am I just talking about the 163. The guys who have mastered it strike me as fairly honorable types. I'm just using it as an example.
But for that matter whats it matter "if" I do shoot them down? All they have to do is bail, jump right back into another one at the same base, and come right back. By the 9'th or 10'th 163 they will probably have hosed the greatest Buff gunner. And by then they have broad casted the location and heading of the Buffs anyway so the jigg is up no matter what. It doesn't take a genius to figure out where your heading and which way your going to come back.
Which brings me back to my point. Once deception is lost in 270 mph bombers its lost for good. I actually do better flying thru heavily traversed sectors, as long as I have air, then I do isolated ones. And as long as your own team can see you on the map there is no "hiding" and it dont matter how many radars you avoid. Shoot a fighter down, and if you far enough behind lines, he can keep re'appearing in you path with little effort. Most of all in the maps with no water and high airfields.
If you feel that there is cheating going on, by all means make films and send them in to HiTech. Discussion of cheating by a bunch of people that have no access to logs or other detailed information will probably not lead to anything positive. From what I've seen HTC will deal with allegations of cheating sent directly to them quickly and resolutely, whereas complaining about cheating on the boards will only invite ridicule.
and by the 9th or 10th 163 you've shot down, the other guy will have lost a bunch of perks, very few people will commit to that.
To be honest, Rich, it sounds like you are pissed off that you can't milkrun (meaning bomb enemy bases without actually having to deal with defenders). That's probably not really a valid gripe and will get you flamed on the boards.
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Dot visability is 10k, meaning you can see a dot once they are with in 10k of you.
On the map friendly dots are shown always, even those below dar (500 above ground level), my guess, is because then you know "where to fight is". if you see a bunch of friendlies heading to a base you might want to tag along. Makes it easy for people to "join in the fun" Enemy dots are only shown while inside an active radar circle, as long as they are above 500.
Bar dar is the bars that are at the top of each sector on the map showing the enemy strenght in the air of that sector. The bigger the bar the more planes.
The "cheating" your talking about isn't cheating, its called spying ( you are alowed to talk about spying) While not "rampant", spying does happen, and is frowned upon as much as it is in real life, but some people will do ANYTHING to win.
Once you make one run and are "caught" either by one guy, or spotted on dar, there are those that will then watch for a small dar bar to pop up in out lieing sectors. Knowing a bomber guy is online, its easy enough to keep an eye out for them, and as buffs are easier kills than most fighters, you'll draw a lot of attention.
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It's easy to spot enemy bombers with the sector radar bar. It's usually as easy to determine where they are going also.
I'm willing to bet a beer or two that our intrepid post originator didn't stay out of the radar rings, was easily spotted, and promptly shot down. Hence the whine.
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Originally posted by Yknurd
I'm only a Colonel so I can't answer your question.
Shall we wait for the General together?
just goes to show that simply minds troll alike. you beat me to it. I'd like to buy you a beer, post your fax number and I'll sent u $2.00
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I think he is blinded by anger for being shot down and refuses to understand that he is visible at all times. If I see dar bar a sector out from HQ, you can bet I know exactly how and where to find you. He does not know h ow the game works yet, but he is sure some one is spying on him.
Try bombing off line if you don't want people trying to shoot you down
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I think it needs clarified that communicating with teammates is not cheating.
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It must be terrible to have a planned milkrun turn into cartoon combat. I cannot imagine the pain.
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Originally posted by Yknurd
I'm only a Colonel so I can't answer your question.
Shall we wait for the General together?
OK, I'm here, what's the problem?
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Originally posted by SkyRock
OK, I'm here, what's the problem?
Rich wants to be invisible and doesn't like it when people talk to each other. ;)
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I was gonna post the link to the info on dar bars in the help section (under support), but after searching I can't find any info on dar bars on the HTC website. Maybe a help section on radar would help out the new players and maybe help avoid some of the cheating accusations. You can find info on almost everything else on the HTC site.
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I actually do better flying thru heavily traversed sectors, as long as I have air, then I do isolated ones.
This is because when a player sees a dar bar in an isolated section, he knows with near certainty that there is a bomber sneaking around back there. And if you go off the map, there is an arrow that points right to where you are instead of the dar bar, which makes it real easy to find you.
And if a fighter watches when the dar bar CHANGES from one sector to another, he can often pinpoint to within about a mile or so just where the bomber is, by evaluating probable targets.
Does this mean it's honest effort in every instance when you are detected? Perhaps not. But I know of at least one player who plays a lot and who spends a lot of time hunting bombers in this fashion, and is very successful doing so.
It's not that hard, most of the time.
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Originally posted by scottydawg
Rich wants to be invisible and doesn't like it when people talk to each other. ;)
I'm starting to realize why many of the older guys call this "the kiddy forum" and refuse to post here.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
I'm starting to realize why many of the older guys call this "the kiddy forum" and refuse to post here.
You should lighten up a bit...
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
I'm starting to realize why many of the older guys call this "the kiddy forum" and refuse to post here
I think the free multiplayer is sometimes refered to as the "kiddie forum," you posted in the general forum.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
I'm starting to realize why many of the older guys call this "the kiddy forum" and refuse to post here.
Since you directly referred to me, I'll go ahead and respond to you, against my better judgement. I'm 39. It was a joke. Since you're all 'adult' and so put out by a bit of gentle razzing, maybe you'll get this reference:
(http://deadasadoornail.com/deadpeople/1d578da49e38936bc3fa5ce5ca6Warren-Oates.jpg)
Lighten up, Francis.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
How far from a enemy airbase do you have to be before you cant be seen by fighters?
The standard setting is
Fighter Warning range:63360
I got this number by selecting the Ndilses map and setting it up offline.Then i clicked on Options, then Arena Set up, then Environment, then Arena Settings.I scrolled down to where it says Fighter Warning Range.This is from the tower only mind you.
I hope it helped.
BTW: just ignore the DDD's around here.
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Not long ago you posted about having flown against several Corsairs. You lost two B-17 Drones on the first attack...and then you killed the the Corsair whom you said "flew stupidly" on your 3rd B-17.
Then you praised the pilot of the Corsair who flew patiently enough to kill your last B-17.
Then you stated that you were flying some AR-234's and a Corsair dived upon you and actually got some hits upon you before you activated your RATO packs and ran away.
Well, Sir....you didn't run into a bunch of Corsairs...you ran into me...just me. I hunt bombers and I can read a map. I also fly Bombers from time to time so I know the "Flight Profile" many bombers take.
You probably need to learn how to read the map; once you do, your bombing efforts will be rewarded.
You should also take to heart what Ghastly posted.
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Did I mention your name son? Other then in praise? As I have Lusche multiple times and many others? Have I ever failed to give a
to anyone that beat me in fair combat? No, of course not! So spare me the attitude and try and read my words correctly, tho I give you credit at least you dont pipe in with a smart-Aleck/squeaker one liner.
Lets start from scratch here ok? You all seem to think Im talking about you personally, why I dont know. Funny this happened at the same time many of you were ruining another thread of mine. I was in a Lanc under friendly radar coverage. Up ahead, a sector and 1/2, "it was in the one arena with the water", I saw a bogie in one of the approaching radars. 4 times I changed my heading to avoid it and "4" times he changed his to match mine exactly. As it turned out one of my own guys ran him off but you should have heard me laughing thinking about all of you here.
Now you dont need to be a rocket scientist or a ghetto street cop to figure out whats going on here. You'all say we aint supposed to talk about it, even tho you continue to, but what would it hurt to have the option to turn off your own green dot signature? I aint talking about the Bars that shows activity, or, the radars.
Cheating?? hahahah, of course people are cheating. They cheat everywhere and every how no matter where your at or what you do. You should see some of the cheats I have to deal with everyday.
So go to the bathroom, wipe yourself, and come back a grownup. I AINT TALKING ABOUT ANY OF YOU PERSONALLY!!!! And I'll seeya in the land of the green dots.
Originally posted by Patches1
Not long ago you posted about having flown against several Corsairs. You lost two B-17 Drones on the first attack...and then you killed the the Corsair whom you said "flew stupidly" on your 3rd B-17.
Then you praised the pilot of the Corsair who flew patiently enough to kill your last B-17.
Then you stated that you were flying some AR-234's and a Corsair dived upon you and actually got some hits upon you before you activated your RATO packs and ran away.
Well, Sir....you didn't run into a bunch of Corsairs...you ran into me...just me. I hunt bombers and I can read a map. I also fly Bombers from time to time so I know the "Flight Profile" many bombers take.
You probably need to learn how to read the map; once you do, your bombing efforts will be rewarded.
You should also take to heart what Ghastly posted.
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:lol :lol :lol :D :D
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Originally posted by SkyRock
OK, I'm here, what's the problem?
:rofl :rofl :rofl arrogant but :rofl
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
If its only 10,000' then without doubt there is something going on.
10,000 yards, not feet. 10k feet displays as 3k yards on icon range.
Edit. By the way. I have not seen the actual visual dot range for the game stated anywhere, but if you wanted to confirm ranges....The film viewer should give you the answer by way of what ranges that other players (who have not started or ended flight) appear and disappear from the plane data list.
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Originally posted by 5PointOh
Huh?:huh
i think he's asking how far from an enemy base you have to be to show up on radar, if your flyin under the radar, you can be right over it, but above radar, depends on range, on the map right click and click on radar ranges or whatever
and about the whole green dot thing, yes it's possible for people to "spy" but it's running off of honor and it's there so that you know whats goin on and where, where you might be needed, and where people are you can team up with...
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2 Cents.
Squaddies will help each other. Spies will exist. Fly other than NOE, you will be noticed. You MAY be the victim of cartoon espionage.
1. Country channel is evil. Mission UP, Troops otw to Axx, etc really is not something to broadcast. 007 IS out there and WILL tell someone else in another country.
2. If you suspect said cartoon espionage, check the roster. Find the pilot who downed you. Is he in a squad? If yes, sort roster by squads. Are ALL the players in that particular squad in the same country? If no, problem solved. You have found a spy! Call INTERPOL.
3. If in a squad, communicate only with them about tactical info.
4. Safety in numbers. More bombers = more armament. Flown tightly means more fighters vaporized.
5. Flying alone, in the middle of timbuktu at 20k, while putting up a dar bar? Chances are someone with the patience of "der Jager" (probably Lusche ) WILL find you. It's not rocket science, its not even cartoon science.
As all before me have stated, dar bar in the middle of nowhere means high buffs. If you take into account (by looking at war status) what bases of opportunity are along or near flight path and what targets are still up, one can extrapolate where the buffs are going.
You may or may have been spied upon, but chances are, you have been outfoxed. Not to insult you but if you fly alone in the middle of nowhere without support someone will gun you down.
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The real question is why get so uptight about it? you die go get another plane they are free.
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First off real cheating is VERY very rare here. I've seen perhaps 3 instances of it in 6 years. All 3 were caught and banned for life. So ease up on the C word.
Second, using anything that is programed into the game is not cheating. That is up to and including the .p gameid to send someone on the other team a message.
However, quite frankly I really doubt anyone is quite that worried about you.
As was said above many times, no one cares about a single buff formation.
As to radar
There is no upper alt limit, you could be at 50,000 and still show up on the sector bars. Dot radar is limited to the range of the reporting station.
Right click on your clipboard map, select radar to bring up the circles. Stay out of them and you stay out of dot radar. However your still going to be showing on sector bars. And any decent pilot can pretty easily tell where you are NOT in a sector, thus narrowing down his search.
No cheating, no spying, just the way the game is played.
The sooner you accept it the quicker you'll find yourself fitting in and making friends.
NO one likes to be accused of cheating. As that accusation is taken incredibly seriously around here.
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Being a buff driver, I personally look forward to a little "action". It is indeed easy to discern dar bar for the enemy looking for "buff kills". But...to get a "buff kill" they have to find you then kill you. Flying a 90min mission can be very boring if you don't get some action at all. Real yawnsville. I, myself have encountered many 163's and have killed a few. I would say that my missions are usually 75% successful. If I can make the drop and still get killed, I succeeded in my mission....to me that is, anyway. I have no problem having to duel a fighter or two, it's what makes the game interesting. You will not succeed in every mission, but in saying that neither do they. It's good gunnery practice for us and them as well. Really no harm nor foul. Cheating? maybe, maybe not. Don't care. I still get the action instead of a 90min dull mission.
1. Avoid all radar sectors (rings)
2. Dar Bar will be visiable to the enemy and usually can be interrpeted for buffs....good.
3. Plan ahead your course and mission goals. Make a mission if you want.
4. To be killed, they need to find and get to you first.
5. The enemy may report over their text radio your present position just like we do for CV's. That's the nature of the game.
6. Milkruns are OK, but unevenful. Make a mission with a risk.
7. Ask for a gunner, or just practice your own.
8. Don't worry about cheaters, it's a waste of time.
9. Have fun and shake it off. :)
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
Dot visability is 10k, meaning you can see a dot once they are with in 10k of you.
On the map friendly dots are shown always, even those below dar (500 above ground level), my guess, is because then you know "where to fight is". if you see a bunch of friendlies heading to a base you might want to tag along. Makes it easy for people to "join in the fun" Enemy dots are only shown while inside an active radar circle, as long as they are above 500.
Bar dar is the bars that are at the top of each sector on the map showing the enemy strenght in the air of that sector. The bigger the bar the more planes.
The "cheating" your talking about isn't cheating, its called spying ( you are alowed to talk about spying) While not "rampant", spying does happen, and is frowned upon as much as it is in real life, but some people will do ANYTHING to win.
Once you make one run and are "caught" either by one guy, or spotted on dar, there are those that will then watch for a small dar bar to pop up in out lieing sectors. Knowing a bomber guy is online, its easy enough to keep an eye out for them, and as buffs are easier kills than most fighters, you'll draw a lot of attention.
Yeah - what he said!
The dot/pixel range is about 10k away in ANY direction. If you are at
30,000' and they are at 21,000' below you - you will be spotted by anyone,
friend or foe.
Icon range is under 6k away in any direction. Your still at 30,000' and they
climb to 25,000' under you, now they can ID your general plane type.
If they can get really really close they can ID the specific plane model.
i.e. < 6k = 109 then 300' = 109g14
If you enter enemy "active" Radar Range (12.5K from Field center and
all the way UP to space), you will show up. NOTE: make sure you have
'Radar' checked on your Clipboard Map so you can see exactly where the
Radar Ring is. (aka: Dot Dar) White=Active / Red=Down. Whether or not
Radar is down - the Field will blink RED once you get within about 12K
radius all the way UP to space, and thus giving away your realtive position
yet again.
Radar Bar (aka: Bar Dar) is just a general reading of friends and foes in
that 25mile X 25mile sector. As long as HQ is up this type of Radar is active.
[note: You can take down ALL Radar by knocking out the HQ] Its a way to
simulate 'commuication' from tower to you about Situational Awareness.
You can avoid both types of Radar (dot & bar dar) by staying below 200'
AGL (above ground level) Just LOVE that treetop flying!
Also, a single plane in a sector will not set off Bar Dar but a single set of
Bombers will. To be truely invisible, you have to weave in and out of all
Radar Rings, stay 13k away from ALL Fields and other Targets, below 200'
AGL and/or a single small plane deep behind the lines...
Good luck and
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Originally posted by CAFghost
Icon range is under 6k away in any direction. Your still at 30,000' and they
climb to 25,000' under you, now they can ID your general plane type.
And do not forget that icon range is measured in yards and altitude in feet. So the 5000' altitude difference indicated in the example above translates in just 1.7k icon distance (shown as D1.5k)
If you are exactly under a con shown as D5.0K, he is about 15K feet above you
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I heard EVERYTHING was feet. I can't seem to find a 'for sure' answer to
this. If anyone knows where/how to confirm. Let me know. :D
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Originally posted by CAFghost
I heard EVERYTHING was feet. I can't seem to find a 'for sure' answer to
this. If anyone knows where/how to confirm. Let me know. :D
Icon distance is in yards. For sure. :aok
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Originally posted by CAFghost
I heard EVERYTHING was feet. I can't seem to find a 'for sure' answer to
this. If anyone knows where/how to confirm. Let me know. :D
Icon display is in yards. It always has been. There is no question about it. Its like asking for conformation that the sky is blue.
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"You can avoid both types of Radar (dot & bar dar) by staying below 200'
AGL (above ground level) Just LOVE that treetop flying!
Also, a single plane in a sector will not set off Bar Dar but a single set of
Bombers will. To be truely invisible, you have to weave in and out of all
Radar Rings, stay 13k away from ALL Fields and other Targets, below 200'
AGL and/or a single small plane deep behind the lines..."
I'm sorry, but this is incorrect.
- Radar for bar and dot is 500'AGL, so you can avoid radar detection by flying a little higher than treetop.
- A single plane will display bar dar, but you cannot see it if you are the single plane in the sector. Others do see it.
The answers to almost all these type questions are free. There is no charge to read the FAQ, Help files, trainers or netaces websites. ;)
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Rich46yo your post painted a big 'newb' sign on your forehead and you're being hazed for it. Before your wheels come off the tracks, find an old-timer squad or player in the MA who is willing to impart the intermediate knowledge without all the harassment in exchange for winging with them. GL.
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If a one-plane-sized dar bar is in a sector far away from action, it's prolly a buff, and it's not hard to figger where he came FROM, and not hard to figger where he's going TO---even a P47 at alt can hunt it down it in short time---best to traverse to your target through a sector with friendlies, and avoid radar circles...once you're in middle of nowhere, hit target fast and egress, and hope no 262's are about
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Originally posted by Easyscor
Rich46yo your post painted a big 'newb' sign on your forehead and you're being hazed for it. Before your wheels come off the tracks, find an old-timer squad or player in the MA who is willing to impart the intermediate knowledge without all the harassment in exchange for winging with them. GL.
There's been some good advice in this thread but this is the best.
Rich don't let the bs get you down. Play the way you want to play but I do believe that you're being tracked by dedicated buff killers. Buffs are relatively easy to kill when caught unawares and those guys know just how to do it.
Get with a trainer or a more experienced vet and figure out what's happening. I really don't think that 'cheating' is going on here.
Good luck sir
PS. I didn't get hazed much and am feeling left out. :mad:
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Originally posted by Dichotomy
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PS. I didn't get hazed much and am feeling left out. :mad:
Dicho, bud, could you run to the parts store and get me a power band?
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Originally posted by Simaril
Dicho, bud, could you run to the parts store and get me a power band?
Yeah pick me up some prop wash while you're there, n00b.
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Originally posted by Easyscor
Rich46yo your post painted a big 'newb' sign on your forehead and you're being hazed for it. Before your wheels come off the tracks, find an old-timer squad or player in the MA who is willing to impart the intermediate knowledge without all the harassment in exchange for winging with them. GL.
Oh no please, stop the hazing? I'll be a good newb, or noob...pleeeeeeze? Having a crop of hairless, prepubescent Mommies boys calling me a newb is just killing me. Please stop, I'll be good.:lol
I dont need an old timer, and dont know what your talking about. Apparently you never read all the thread. Yesterday I took 8 runs, took out targets, fighters, got them home. So I must be doing something right.
:p I got to go. My Mommies calling.
""""There's been some good advice in this thread but this is the best.
Rich don't let the bs get you down. Play the way you want to play but I do believe that you're being tracked by dedicated buff killers. Buffs are relatively easy to kill when caught unawares and those guys know just how to do it.
Get with a trainer or a more experienced vet and figure out what's happening. I really don't think that 'cheating' is going on here.
Good luck sir"""
Thank you for posting like a gentleman. But even you are clueless as to what I was saying. My skills, your skills, me cheating personally, you cheating personally, had nothing to do with this thread. Ive survived far worse then 16yos calling me newb my friend. But I appreciate the well intentioned advice anyways even if it does make me chuckle.
Well............maybe I'll just leave the thread for good. My Mom doesnt want me spending all this time on my computer anyways. "Mommie, I'm coming".
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Originally posted by Murdr
Icon display is in yards. It always has been. There is no question about it. Its like asking for conformation that the sky is blue.
Originally posted by Rolex
I'm sorry, but this is incorrect.
- Radar for bar and dot is 500'AGL, so you can avoid radar detection by flying a little higher than treetop.
- A single plane will display bar dar, but you cannot see it if you are the single plane in the sector. Others do see it.
The answers to almost all these type questions are free. There is no charge to read the FAQ, Help files, trainers or netaces websites.
Murdr
Prove it! :p Friendly wager? Cold Beer!
For D100, that Squadmate looks a hell of a lot closer then 2 monster
bombs from Bret Favre!! (from Wisconsin :rolleyes: )
Rolex
I always thought it was 500'. 100% of everyone in MA says to avoid both
it had to be 200'. 500' for one, and 200' for the other. To simplify, all in
Missions would just say "below 200' ". (doesn't say much I know :lol )
...and I HAVE read though all sections. Websites are still run by humans
who are not perfect, nor simply owning (programmer myself) a site makes
it the final word of truth. Were you implying from my long-winded post
I wasn't doing my homework? :t
Love to fly/train with you two someday and step-up my dogfighting skills.
Thanks guys!
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Originally posted by CAFghost
Rolex
I always thought it was 500'. 100% of everyone in MA says to avoid both
it had to be 200'. 500' for one, and 200' for the other. To simplify, all in
Missions would just say "below 200' ". (doesn't say much I know :lol )
The 200' answer is one of the two major uneradicable myths (The other one is about the purple CH2 text channel). It has always been 500' in AH.
It was confirmed by HTC on this BBS, it was confirmed countless by non-believers who did test it, and you can check it yourself: Fly into an empty sector and ask a friend if you mae a darbar. Or you can just look it up: Go offline (any map) and check "Radar alt" at default settings.
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Thank You!
Thanks for backing this up and how to test. I've asked about
this several times in other posts and old accounts with zip.
I don't care what Murdr says - you're all right! :rofl
Whats this CH2 thing? Never heard even a rumor on this...
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Originally posted by CAFghost
I don't care what Murdr says - you're all right! :rofl
If in doubt, you are usually better off trusting Murdr than trusting me ;)
Originally posted by CAFghost
Whats this CH2 thing? Never heard even a rumor on this...
Not a rumor.
It's just that the majority of people believe that purple CH2 text channel is "local", and works similar to the local range vox channel. They use it to type messages to other people around them.
But it doesn't work that way. It is "room". That means only people that took off from the same field can read this channel - but they can do it regardless of range, even across the map.
If you are circling above a V-field and try to warn your teammates in GVs about inbound enemy forces: They can not read "your" CH2.
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Originally posted by Lusche
The 200' answer is one of the two major uneradicable myths (The other one is about the purple CH2 text channel). It has always been 500' in AH.
It was confirmed by HTC on this BBS, it was confirmed countless by non-believers who did test it, and you can check it yourself: Fly into an empty sector and ask a friend if you mae a darbar. Or you can just look it up: Go offline (any map) and check "Radar alt" at default settings.
(offline)
Options ==> Arena Settings ==> Environment ==> Radar Alt
You will see it's set for 500'.
It's one of the settings we put at 0' for KOTH so you can always see the enemy dot's.
As far as rich goes...
I'm STILL not sure what he's asking.
Originally posted by Rich46yo
How far from a enemy airbase do you have to be before you cant be seen by fighters?
You will always show a sector counter if over 500'. You will show up as a "dot" on their map if you are within an enemy radar circle. (right click map, choose RADAR)
You do not see your own dar bar. (i.e. if you are flying around in a sector by yourself, the sector does not show a Sector Counter on your map. EVERYBODY else can see that there is a dar bar in that sector on their map)
Visual range is 10,000 yards.
Originally posted by Rich46yo
Then there is the other possibility. That players share information on their own team in order to run up their kills. You can see you own teams little green dots anywhere on the board right? How hard would it be to mssg, phone call, or even sit side by side with a friend on the enemies team and share info?
It sounds like you are suggesting that a player on your team saw you taking off, and alerted someone on the other side as to your location.
Why bother? Not really worth the effort for a single buff formation.
The enemy can see you on radar. It's simple as can be to watch the dar bar in sectors change and to guess the probable target. If I see an enemy in a sector, but I can't see the dot, I will look at the map w/ RADAR pulled up. From there it's fairly simply to guess where they are and what their target is.
No need for any "inside information" from the other side. Simple observation and logic will allow me to vector my plane to their location. (though sometimes ya' got to do some searching for the really sneaky ones)
Rich, does that answer your question?
(I see Lusche has already explained the range channel "myth")
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Sounds like Rich thinks he's the only adult that plays, now maybe if he would just act like one and listen to some of the advice thats been offered this thread would end.
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Originally posted by Lusche
But it doesn't work that way. It is "room". That means only people that took off from the same field can read this channel - but they can do it regardless of range, even across the map.
If you are circling above a V-field and try to warn your teammates in GVs about inbound enemy forces: They can not read "your" CH2.
Man, Lusche - you're on a roll!
There's another thing you've cleared up that I never realized!
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Originally posted by Simaril
Man, Lusche - you're on a roll!
Be sure to tune in next week when I explain the meaning of life... :D
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Originally posted by Lusche
It's just that the majority of people believe that purple CH2 text channel is "local"...
Obviously a typo. Since 2 is green, and 3 is purple (room) :)
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Originally posted by Murdr
Obviously a typo. Since 2 is green, and 3 is purple (room) :)
:o
of course... me fail again... Lusche bows head in shame
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There's no shame in a typo. For instance, just look at any post by HT :)
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Thanks yet again.
HUGE help on that 'range' thing. You ROCK dude!
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Originally posted by scottydawg
Yeah pick me up some prop wash while you're there, n00b.
Should I get a bolt stretcher while I'm there?:cool:
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Originally posted by Lusche
Not a rumor.
It's just that the majority of people believe that purple CH2 text channel is "local", and works similar to the local range vox channel. They use it to type messages to other people around them.
But it doesn't work that way. It is "room". That means only people that took off from the same field can read this channel - but they can do it regardless of range, even across the map.
If you are circling above a V-field and try to warn your teammates in GVs about inbound enemy forces: They can not read "your" CH2.
:huh :confused: :( I had no idea.:( :confused: :huh
However, it does explain a few very confusing incidents . . .
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Originally posted by Dichotomy
Should I get a bolt stretcher while I'm there?:cool:
and a bucket of condensate too
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Well at least Scotty I can understand, and whom contributed to the thread. I'll be succinct.
1,How far away can fighters see bombers?
1) i think most likely about 10 miles.........that's considered max visibility i think.........
2, How much cheating goes on in the game and how hard would this be.
That players share information on their own team in order to run up their kills. You can see you own teams little green dots anywhere on the board right? How hard would it be to mssg, phone call, or even sit side by side with a friend on the enemies team and share info?
2)aaahhh......you mean having a spy sort of?
i would imagine it to be pretty easy......i was on the ground once defending a base.....it got to the point that i gave up doing anything cept hiding to wait for the incomming troops. whelp......6 or 7 times, an enemy came flying over, on a flightpath where i know for fact he didn't see me, would make 1 turn and fly right to me. during all this there was another on the base.....hiding in the indestructiable, and he refused to do anything to help. after the guy that kept bombing me on the ground landed his 7 kills, he..on open channel.....thanked thre guy that was in the hangar.....so i would say that this is very possible/
3, And really, what are the chances that an airplane that can only fly for a few minutes just happens upon you 2 sectors away from its base out in some Godforsake'in corner of the map?
So what do the friendly green dots accomplish? And why do we have them? Its obvious there is cheating and info sharing going on. So how do they help the game? And shouldn't we have the option of turning them off? Because with them there is no hidden place you can be, or go to, and avoiding radar is really irrelevant.
3)i make use of these when i'm trying to rtb, as i was the other night with 5 p38's chasin me.....i head towards friendly territory, or the nearest friendly all the while informing them ogf my alt, speed, heading, etc....thus helping them help me
Forget the Generals kid Ive known dyslexic privates that can understand English.
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john
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
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Thank you for posting like a gentleman. But even you are clueless as to what I was saying. My skills, your skills, me cheating personally, you cheating personally, had nothing to do with this thread. Ive survived far worse then 16yos calling me newb my friend. But I appreciate the well intentioned advice anyways even if it does make me chuckle.
This guy has the biggest chip on hie shoulder I have ever seen !!! How many times is he going to come onto these boards, ask a question, and then trash everyone for trying to help him out ???
Rich, huddle down in your bomber, and fly you circuitous routes to your targets, and while your at it, bury your head in the sand, and ignore the world around you because obviously none of us have a clue, and couldn't possibly help you.
Come on back when you grow up.
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Originally posted by xbrit
Sounds like Rich thinks he's the only adult that plays, now maybe if he would just act like one and listen to some of the advice thats been offered this thread would end.
Obviously I thought I was the only adult here Xbrit. I mean I must have mentioned your name at least 90 times here as being a kid. Sheesh!
The thread will probably end when people, and children, with nothing to offer will cease with the stupid one liners.
Ive figured this game out already. Its not Doctorate level calculus. Seeya in the furball kiddies, I'm a comin in my Death Star 17's.:p
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
How far from a enemy airbase do you have to be before you cant be seen by fighters?
Originally posted by Rich46yo
Ive figured this game out already. Its not Doctorate level calculus. Seeya in the furball kiddies, I'm a comin in my Death Star 17's.:p
Ok, I for one need some "closure" here.
Did ANYTHING that was posted help you what so ever? Did none of the posts that explained how it all works do anything for ya'?
I for one would like to know just what you didn't understand, and if it was clarified.
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any dickweed post 500 times becomes a senior mamber lol yes mammery
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by BEARING3
any dickweed post 500 times becomes a senior mamber lol yes mammery
:rolleyes:
This has to be at LEAST the 5th post i've seen in the past few days from you that made me go "huh"? You DO understand how you come across right?
(shakes fist @ HiTech for closing H2H)
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Originally posted by WMLute
Ok, I for one need some "closure" here.
Did ANYTHING that was posted help you what so ever? Did none of the posts that explained how it all works do anything for ya'?
I for one would like to know just what you didn't understand, and if it was clarified.
Yes, thru all of this air I learned one thing, "I already knew this forum can become the literary equivalent of furball". I learned that the little dar bars can be triggered by one airplane flying over 200'. Before this I honestly didn't know. I didnt know one airplane could do that.
Which makes the game even more one dimensional really. Most of all for bombers. You can track the bars across empty space, see the targets ahead of them, "especially when they light up", figure out there head to and from, eat lunch, cut the grass, quiet mommie by cleaning your room, and jump on them while they are O/B. Everyone knows no bomber stick is going to fly into radar or fly low enough to give away all that energy.
And I dont even really think bomber sticks are that discriminated against, or, really get the short end of the stick. 90% of the time Ive been defeated Ive just plain been outflown and outfought. It happened again today. But Ive been very effective the last few days after changing my tactics. Unfortunately, like everyone else, I'm only using about 10% of the map now. Im not about to waste 2 hours flying endarounds with little bars and lights going off.
So this is what I was getting at before all the smart aleck squeekies chimed in. Can the game be better? Here's what I would do.
1, I'd make the friendly green dot locator's so you can turn them on or off.
2, I'd turn off the dar bars in sectors with no targets in them. As it is they are just another form of radar. And while were at it why not give the heavies some chaff to throw out in radar.
3, I'd make more strat targets, place more importance on them, give bomber sticks more points for shooting down fighters in strat sectors, and more points for bombing them. Conversely the same for fighter sticks. Make it worthwhile for them to fly long patrols around strat targets. Also, if they get shot down near them, limit the bases they can fly out of again for say 1/2 hour.
4, Give penalty points for bailing out of aircraft that aren't heavily damaged. As it is, if your over friendly territory, and you run out of gas or bullets, you can bail and just jump in next air station down the line.
5, Open a forum room where you have to show your over 21 yo to get in. I'm sorta joking here but this entire thread could have been discussed in an adult manner. You dont see me jumping in threads with stupid one-liners, or opinions, that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Nor do I have delusions of paranoia and think I'm being talked about when my name isn't mentioned.
Im only posting this cause you asked. I'm done with the thread.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
1, I'd make the friendly green dot locator's so you can turn them on or off.
Silly idea, really. If you mean, turn off your own dot so others can't see you, this makes spying easier since you won't necessarily see the low "friendly" following your mission and reporting your position.
Originally posted by Rich46yo
2, I'd turn off the dar bars in sectors with no targets in them. As it is they are just another form of radar. And while were at it why not give the heavies some chaff to throw out in radar.
Fine, turn off the dar bars, but increase the circle dar to a more accurate range of several sectors. :p
Originally posted by Rich46yo
3, I'd make more strat targets, place more importance on them, give bomber sticks more points for shooting down fighters in strat sectors, and more points for bombing them. Conversely the same for fighter sticks. Make it worthwhile for them to fly long patrols around strat targets. Also, if they get shot down near them, limit the bases they can fly out of again for say 1/2 hour.
This is more like 3a - 3c, but . . . The purpose of bombers is to blow stuff up, not shoot things down. Historically, bombers would have LOVED to avoid fighters on every run. I am not sure how it helps anything to encourage people to bring B-24s into furballs. If they want to for fun, that's fine, but it shouldn't be encouraged through "rewarding" the behavior with rank/points/whatever.
More important strat? This I can agree with, but specifically what would you like to see? How do you make them more important?
And how exactly do you propose "rewarding" long range fighter escort? More importantly, who would want to fly for hours in empty sky? What is the fun in that?
Limit bases who can fly out of? And why? I don't get it.
Originally posted by Rich46yo
4, Give penalty points for bailing out of aircraft that aren't heavily damaged. As it is, if your over friendly territory, and you run out of gas or bullets, you can bail and just jump in next air station down the line.
And there is a problem with that? If I am anywhere doing anything and my squad calls guns up at a base across the map, I am bailing. Period. You want me to be penalized for supporting my squad?
This is a perfect example of trying to "legislate away" annoying but sometimes justifiable behavior, just because you have a problem with it. My advice: Worry about how you play your game. Let them worry about how they play their game.
Originally posted by Rich46yo
5, Open a forum room where you have to show your over 21 yo to get in. I'm sorta joking here but this entire thread could have been discussed in an adult manner. You dont see me jumping in threads with stupid one-liners, or opinions, that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Nor do I have delusions of paranoia and think I'm being talked about when my name isn't mentioned.
This one just makes me laugh. :lol The behavior you describe is typical for any thread on these or any other open forum. Surely you knew this before you posted. The fact that you react to it just encourages the behavior to continue.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Yes, thru all of this air I learned one thing, "I already knew this forum can become the literary equivalent of furball".
I was hoping you'd learned to ask questions about game mechanics in Help & Training if you want a lot less noise and sillyness in the replies :)
...That the use of the "C" word is frowned upon by HTC in these forums. It is often invoked without any validity, and due to a lack of understanding. (also as mentioned it's like wearing a sign on your forehead saying "Hi! Im new here")
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
2, I'd turn off the dar bars in sectors with no targets in them. As it is they are just another form of radar. And while were at it why not give the heavies some chaff to throw out in radar.
I highly doubt that you would actually want to use chaff When your bombing alone. What chaff does to radar is to give it a massive amount of return causing the operator to see a massive formation of aircraft coming in. I can see exactly what would happen, the other tram sees a huge dar bar in no man's land, the all up 262's, 109k4's,163's and other interceptors. Then they fin you lone bomber an all gang you at once. that would not end well for the bombers.
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If you are circling above a V-field and try to warn your teammates in GVs about inbound enemy forces:
Lusche : Thanks for the heads up on this . I always believed it was like the range vox ( 25 miles for purple text ) :(
Ok so it's a "room" and the only people in it are from the same base .
Glad I at least knew that the dar was 500 :)
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Obviously I thought I was the only adult here Xbrit. I mean I must have mentioned your name at least 90 times here as being a kid. Sheesh!
The thread will probably end when people, and children, with nothing to offer will cease with the stupid one liners.
Ive figured this game out already. Its not Doctorate level calculus. Seeya in the furball kiddies, I'm a comin in my Death Star 17's.:p
Well why ask questions and then when you don't like the answer start whining ?? People offered up reasonable answers and you fly off at a tangent.
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Originally posted by airspro
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Lusche : Thanks for the heads up on this . I always believed it was like the range vox ( 25 miles for purple text ) :(
Like I said before: The vast majority of players believes this. And for a good reason: It would be reasonable (at least to me) if it was that way. I really wish HTC would change "Room" to a "Range" text channel.
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Rich46YO,
I do believe you can find an answer to just about every single question you have at the following website:
Aces High II Trainer Corps ( http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/ )
pertaining to the Game Aces High II, that is!
if you ever do have a question and can not find the answer, just post it in the Help and Training Forum on this messageboard.
btw, what is your ingame gameid? the same as your username here on the boards?
HTC should make it a rule that if you open an account on these boards you must provide your ingame gameid at the bottom of every post you make. It should match your IP to validate...if it does not match IP to both username/gameid then you are refused the priviledge to post........how hard could this be to initiate into the registration of the messageboards?
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
It should match your IP to validate...if it does not match IP to both username/gameid then you are refused the priviledge to post........how hard could this be to initiate into the registration of the messageboards?
I have dynamic IPs, and also I do often post from different computers with vastly different IP's (different providers)...
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Originally posted by Lusche
I have dynamic IPs, and also I do often post from different computers with vastly different IP's (different providers)...
eh, good point Lusche, ....still think people who post should have to provide their ingame game id at the bottom of their postings.....in any case....
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If you are toodling off and bombing crap like cities with no friendlies about, you stick out like a sore thumb, and even if ya are at 20k, a guy desperate for an easy bomber kill can up a K4 or G14 and be co-alt with you very quickly---hitting hangars, towns, etc at or near bases your country is attacking makes you blend in far more easily
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Rich, if this game was "just" about flying bombers those suggestions actually might make some sense. However, the game is MUCH MUCH bigger than that.
As such the settings have to be "balanced" for everyone. Furballers don't get exactly what they want, jabo boys don't get exactly what they want, NOE'rs don't get exactly what they want and buff pilots don't get exactly what they want.
Like everything else in life its a balance.
Since I think you'll find there are 3 or 4 (if not more) fighter sorties for every bomber sortie, some things get "tipped" in their favor. Some things evolved that way so people could ALWAYS find a fight. Like the sector bars.
Why is it someone new comes in, ask's a couple questions, but isn't satisified with the answers. It is the way it is, deal with it or move on.
You have questions, I'll be glad to help.
You want to change the game, well my advice is go build your own.
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The laws of "probability". seems to apply here.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Which makes the game even more one dimensional really. Most of all for bombers. You can track the bars across empty space, see the targets ahead of them
Bar Dar is used to show the ratio of friendly aircraft to enemy aircraft in a specific area
so if theyre even, there's a fairly even amount of freindly and enemy aircraft. It isn't made to give away an exact position of anything...
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Originally posted by Ghastly
This is because when a player sees a dar bar in an isolated section, he knows with near certainty that there is a bomber sneaking around back there. And if you go off the map, there is an arrow that points right to where you are instead of the dar bar, which makes it real easy to find you.
And if a fighter watches when the dar bar CHANGES from one sector to another, he can often pinpoint to within about a mile or so just where the bomber is, by evaluating probable targets.
So true. And if you shoot the fellow down, keep and eye at one of the rear bases, one with good elevation, and in a minute, a darbar appears.
Big maps were more fun. Radar words the same way, but there was so much more going on. And a couple or single buffs could make a better run at completing their mission.