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Title: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: BiGBMAW on August 30, 2007, 11:23:23 AM
Lord Have Mercy



So....We are in a HUGE V bas vs Base battle..20+ Gvs..with 12+ ftrs

This really really sucks when your are helping with Air Cover and You consnatly are getting ...Tiger!!!! watch the Panzer.....OMG!!!! I hit theat F hoel 4 times...

m3~!!!!!! T-34 behind tree!!!


this is just one example..


Will we ever be able to get Range Vox mute????

And ya...great option..type in everyones Name for squelch is not a viable choice
Title: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: Krusty on August 30, 2007, 11:25:31 AM
Been there, wished for that!










Still waiting :noid

Actually, I was wishing that AH vox had a mute toggle just this week, like Teamspeak does. Running both, I can only mute teamspeak. If I want to hear what's on TS I can't mute AH at all.
Title: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: dedalos on August 30, 2007, 11:41:00 AM
True, the GV talk gets in the way of guys in the air giving the play by play :rofl

LA hi

check it check it

b24s

where?

Pony diving

He is runnung

He hopoooooeeed me (&**&#&&$

check it check it

Break break break

B17s

:rofl :rofl :rofl

People just need to think before they open their mouth on range.  Yes, a mute button would be nice for when you need to just turn it off for a minute or so, but the real solution is, THINK BEFORE YOU SAY B17s COMING IN.  Either have the location, direction, and alt of the formation or dont say anything.  Why announce it anyway?  Its not like we can move the FH out of the way and the guys that did not see them cant reach them on time anyway.  Not to mention that calling break break break without the pilot name is well, :noid
Title: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: Shifty on August 30, 2007, 11:43:44 AM
"Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod "
Or just for the Halibut.
Title: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: Balsy on August 30, 2007, 12:08:42 PM
The true fix is to have a Ground Local Channel, and an Air  Local channel..that way you know who your audience is.

Balsy
Title: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: Iron_Cross on August 30, 2007, 12:40:06 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Balsy
The true fix is to have a Ground Local Channel, and an Air  Local channel..that way you know who your audience is.

Balsy


That has my vote.  That will solve all the problems with ground chatter interfering with air to air chatter.
Title: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: moot on August 30, 2007, 01:57:28 PM
It's not worth cutting GV chatter out completely.  Maybe tone down its volume with respect to airborne radio?
Title: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: PanosGR on August 30, 2007, 02:07:27 PM
Vote on Balsy idea, but what in the case of "hey u up there see any GV down here?"
Title: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: Motherland on August 30, 2007, 02:24:56 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Balsy
The true fix is to have a Ground Local Channel, and an Air  Local channel..that way you know who your audience is.

Balsy

Then people in the air wouldnt be able to call out targets to those on the ground, and vice-versa.
Title: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: Balsy on August 30, 2007, 02:37:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Motherland
Then people in the air wouldnt be able to call out targets to those on the ground, and vice-versa.


Well, you would have to tune to "ground" to speak to them, thats the point.

No different than a grunt having a channel for ground operations, and having a separate radio or channel for Close Air Support.

If your gv'n, and need help spotting someone, you'd tune local air get your information, than tune back to local ground.

Seemed to work fine in the Marines :).

Balsy
Title: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: Sweet2th on August 30, 2007, 02:37:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Balsy
The true fix is to have a Ground Local Channel, and an Air  Local channel..that way you know who your audience is.

Balsy


Then how would the awesome pilots that are running away from someone toward the field be able to tell the person in the Ostwing they are dragging a target for them to shoot at???
Title: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: FiLtH on August 30, 2007, 09:53:36 PM
Atleast a switch to allow air to air comms, air to gorund, or only ground comms
Title: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: Xargos on August 31, 2007, 04:03:27 AM
I sometimes catch myself using the range a little too much warning those taking off when I'm in a field gun trying to kill the vultures.  When I call out cons I always try to give the direction their coming from.  But there does come a time when there are just so many it becomes pointless to call them out anymore.
Title: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: moot on August 31, 2007, 04:36:46 AM
A dedicated enemy contact/strat report channel would make things easier, but it'd probably get spammed like ch6.
Title: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: NHawk on August 31, 2007, 06:02:04 AM
There are two trains of thought on this. Planes hate the spotters calling out what GV is approaching and GVs hate all of the air banter and check 6's. So, keep this in mind when you're in the air over a GV battle...

The three absolute worst things for true GV players are...

1) Engines running while sitting still. This eliminates any long range tracking of inbound GVs so spotters calling out location and type are needed. And, usually when you do hear them it's to late and you or someone near you is dead.

2) Mindless banter on range. Whether from the air or ground. While in battle, nobody needs to hear about X killing Y or that great movie you saw the other day. Again, this requires spotters calling out location and type.

3) Planes flying at low altitude. The plane engines drown out GV engines which then requires spotters calling out GV locations and types. Unless air cover is called for, planes should keep away from GV battles. Then either vacate the area or move 4 to 5k away from the battle unless there is reason for them to stay.

Air cover is suppose to be just that air cover. The people flying it are suppose to intercept incoming planes before they can affect the ground battle, not go after the enemy GVs unless a ground strike is requested.

Like I said, there are 2 sides to every range complaint. Look at them both.
Title: Re: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: Masherbrum on August 31, 2007, 08:13:06 AM
Quote
Originally posted by BiGBMAW
Lord Have Mercy

So....We are in a HUGE V bas vs Base battle..20+ Gvs..with 12+ ftrs

This really really sucks when your are helping with Air Cover and You consnatly are getting ...Tiger!!!! watch the Panzer.....OMG!!!! I hit theat F hoel 4 times...

m3~!!!!!! T-34 behind tree!!!

this is just one example..

Will we ever be able to get Range Vox mute????

And ya...great option..type in everyones Name for squelch is not a viable choice
I have always found that the gv'ers clutter the vox in a base capture.
Title: Re: Re: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: yanksfan on September 01, 2007, 06:58:36 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
I have always found that the gv'ers clutter the vox in a base capture.


I have found that two peanut butter and jelly sandwichs are much easier to have in a tiger then in a p51, this also cuts down on vox chatter i especially like more peanut butter then jelly and as for jelly, jam is much better as it dosen't mush the nice soft white bread used in making the sandwich at least not as much as jelly will, also i'd rather have a cup of coffee with that rather then milk as milk can be mucuss forming and that really is kinda gross on vox to here some one hacking up a lugie while complaining about hitting a t34 point blank 9 times and then filming the fight for skuzzy to ignore sometimes i'll have three but two is pretty standard i don't always have coffee with it either and sometimes i'll have iced tea thats sweat tea if your down south altho I really don't like mine sweat but i guess i'm only kidding myself as the peanut butter and jelly or jam for that matter are loaded with sugar i tryed the sugar free crap but it's pretty bad i like jello too but not with fruit in it.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: morfiend on September 01, 2007, 07:06:22 PM
Quote
Originally posted by yanksfan
I have found that two peanut butter and jelly sandwichs are much easier to have in a tiger then in a p51, this also cuts down on vox chatter i especially like more peanut butter then jelly and as for jelly, jam is much better as it dosen't mush the nice soft white bread used in making the sandwich at least not as much as jelly will, also i'd rather have a cup of coffee with that rather then milk as milk can be mucuss forming and that really is kinda gross on vox to here some one hacking up a lugie while complaining about hitting a t34 point blank 9 times and then filming the fight for skuzzy to ignore sometimes i'll have three but two is pretty standard i don't always have coffee with it either and sometimes i'll have iced tea thats sweat tea if your down south altho I really don't like mine sweat but i guess i'm only kidding myself as the peanut butter and jelly or jam for that matter are loaded with sugar i tryed the sugar free crap but it's pretty bad i like jello too but not with fruit in it.



Not again!!
Title: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: CAP1 on September 01, 2007, 09:17:46 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Balsy
The true fix is to have a Ground Local Channel, and an Air  Local channel..that way you know who your audience is.

Balsy


balsey, that, sir is an excellent idea.........
often when i'm bingo ammo, i'll loiter and call out nmy gv's to the friendly ground guys......i had no idea i was actually interfering with them though......


<>

john
Title: Re: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: SkyRock on September 01, 2007, 10:48:50 PM
Quote
Originally posted by BiGBMAW

So....We are in a HUGE V bas vs Base battle..20+ Gvs..with 12+ ftrs and I was being a dweeb.
 
:aok
Title: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: doc1kelley on September 02, 2007, 08:56:56 AM
Quote
Originally posted by NHawk
There are two trains of thought on this. Planes hate the spotters calling out what GV is approaching and GVs hate all of the air banter and check 6's. So, keep this in mind when you're in the air over a GV battle...

The three absolute worst things for true GV players are...

1) Engines running while sitting still. This eliminates any long range tracking of inbound GVs so spotters calling out location and type are needed. And, usually when you do hear them it's to late and you or someone near you is dead.

2) Mindless banter on range. Whether from the air or ground. While in battle, nobody needs to hear about X killing Y or that great movie you saw the other day. Again, this requires spotters calling out location and type.

3) Planes flying at low altitude. The plane engines drown out GV engines which then requires spotters calling out GV locations and types. Unless air cover is called for, planes should keep away from GV battles. Then either vacate the area or move 4 to 5k away from the battle unless there is reason for them to stay.

Air cover is suppose to be just that air cover. The people flying it are suppose to intercept incoming planes before they can affect the ground battle, not go after the enemy GVs unless a ground strike is requested.

Like I said, there are 2 sides to every range complaint. Look at them both.


Great post NHawk!  Something else I've noticed lately is when I've been in an FW190-A5 and fire a burst at a GV and do relatively no damage and it is later taken out by a friendly tank, I've gotten the kill and the actual killer had just gotten an assist.  From the ground perspective I have wondered why I was just getting so many assist  when I whacked the tank that was obviously not seriously damaged (firing, moving, etc...).  I have since quit shooting at a GV unless it was absolutely necessary.

All the Best...
Jay
awDoc1
Title: Range Vox...Please For the Love of Cod
Post by: hubsonfire on September 02, 2007, 11:34:47 AM
HT is basically a sadist, and he wants you to suffer. That's why we have range vox, but no ability to turn it off.