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Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on September 01, 2007, 01:06:21 PM
Two polish pilots of the Zelazny group were killed in an accident during a demonstration in Radom, Poland. The cause for the accident is officially not yet known but it looks like simple human error.

(http://kuvat.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/lentokoneetSP_uu.jpg)
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: LEADPIG on September 01, 2007, 01:10:44 PM
Oh Noooo!:O :confused: :( :cry
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: eskimo2 on September 01, 2007, 01:22:48 PM
Dang!

Video:
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=5125
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: Maverick on September 01, 2007, 02:39:36 PM
Does anyone have a copy of that video from a clean site? That one is full of double click active x programs.


Back to the thread. What maneuver were the planes doing at the time of the collision?
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: Eagler on September 01, 2007, 02:41:32 PM
Peace to those they leave behind
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: Hornet33 on September 01, 2007, 02:50:11 PM
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Originally posted by Maverick
Does anyone have a copy of that video from a clean site? That one is full of double click active x programs.


Back to the thread. What maneuver were the planes doing at the time of the collision?


Looked to me they were doing a cross over pass after coming out of a loop from 3 diferent directions. Right before the collision one of the planes left wing dips a bit and the nose pushes over. It almost looks like the pilot saw the collision coming and tried to manuver clear but didn't have enough time.

Pretty sad to see something like that happen.
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: Kaw1000 on September 01, 2007, 02:53:58 PM
Ugly and Sad:(
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: Dichotomy on September 01, 2007, 05:07:06 PM
very sad
Title: Sad, indeed
Post by: TalonX on September 01, 2007, 06:03:26 PM
They died doing what they loved.

Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: ramzey on September 01, 2007, 07:13:47 PM
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Originally posted by Hornet33
Looked to me they were doing a cross over pass after coming out of a loop from 3 diferent directions. Right before the collision one of the planes left wing dips a bit and the nose pushes over. It almost looks like the pilot saw the collision coming and tried to manuver clear but didn't have enough time.

Pretty sad to see something like that happen.


you are right
This was 6 airplanes team, while 3 of them where doing cross over pass, 3 of their friends where watching collision from air.
3rd plane from that video landed on the near by highway
Pilots who died was 62yo colonel  Lech Marchelewski , Airline pilot, instructor, founder and leader of the team. 4900 hours in air. He flew as number 1.
It supose to be hist last show, he was going to retire.

Secound pilot , no 2 in a team was 24 yo Piotr Banachowicz,, 500 hours in air

RIP

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=radom+air+show+crash
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: LEADPIG on September 01, 2007, 07:31:14 PM
Reminds me of Rammstein, it hurts my heart to see this. :cry   The Blue Angels and Thunderbirds do a similiar maneauver, God i hope this never happens to them.
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: Maverick on September 02, 2007, 10:48:16 AM
Hornet and Ramzey,

Thanks for the info and clips.

RIP, fair skies and tailwinds forever. :(
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: texasmom on September 02, 2007, 10:59:31 AM
:( Thanks for providing the info.RIP
Title: Re: Sad, indeed
Post by: Thrawn on September 02, 2007, 12:38:42 PM
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Originally posted by TalonX
They died doing what they loved.




Crashing airplanes?
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: moot on September 02, 2007, 12:49:22 PM
That's definitely what he meant!
Title: Re: Re: Sad, indeed
Post by: Slash27 on September 02, 2007, 01:31:53 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Thrawn
Crashing airplanes?


classy
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: Gh0stFT on September 02, 2007, 05:41:39 PM
what airplanes are they flying? watching some of the videos
not much left of plane #1 after the impact, it looks like an Ultralight?

this kind of manoever happend in Rammstein too, just with more
planes but in the end it was similar planes coming in from 3 different
positions heading to arrive at one point, a.) in different altitudes or
b.) at a different time (seconds and less)

they knew the danger otherwise they would not fly this kind
of manoevers, but 24 years old... thats to young to die...

R.I.P.
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: Slash27 on September 02, 2007, 07:16:21 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zlin_Z-50
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: Maverick on September 03, 2007, 11:20:09 AM
Ghost, airplanes with a combined impact speed in excess of 300 to 400 MPH, what do you expect? They may be rated for G's but not impact, no aircraft is.

You want a good exercise in it? Do a force equation on it. See what the huge ft lb numbers are.
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: MiloMorai on September 03, 2007, 11:38:37 AM
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Originally posted by Gh0stFT
what airplanes are they flying?

The Zlin Z-50 from Czech Rep.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Sad, indeed
Post by: eskimo2 on September 03, 2007, 12:02:52 PM
quote:
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Crashing airplanes?

Quote
Originally posted by Slash27
classy


Actually, that is kind of funny.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sad, indeed
Post by: Hortlund on September 03, 2007, 12:29:16 PM
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Originally posted by eskimo2
quote:
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Crashing airplanes?

 

Actually, that is kind of funny.


Actually, that is not only kind of funny, it is ****ing hillarious.
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: CyranoAH on September 03, 2007, 12:33:03 PM
They are actually flying Zlin Akrobats (Z-526) or Trener Masters (Z-326, two-seater version of the Akrobat), the wings are significantly different from the Z-50 (flown the three types).

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1301/764327472_9474f07fc4.jpg)
Z-526

(http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/middle/1/1/3/0850311.jpg)
Z-50L

Formation leader died in what was to be his last performance, and the squadron had already lost two pilots in another airshow two years before.

Hard to know what happened... the Akrobat has superb forward-vision, as it flies with a marked nose-down attitude when in level flight... miscalculation is my bet.

Daniel
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: ramzey on September 03, 2007, 12:37:17 PM
Cyrano, don't spread gossips please.
In 2003, 2 members of team went for multi engine flight training,  one of them was instructor for multi , second was taking lesson.
They crash in Morava couple miles from airfield.
It was not airshow, just training flight
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: CyranoAH on September 03, 2007, 02:37:00 PM
My apologies, I read it on a news site.

Daniel
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: Yeager on September 04, 2007, 01:09:24 PM
very tragic.  you can actually see the pilot being propelled free from the debri of the most distant plane, aft of the engine mass.
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: 4deck on September 04, 2007, 01:36:29 PM
Jeez. Very tragic. That shot is unbelievable. I had to look at it several times but it does look like a pilot being ejected on the left plane. Whats wierd is that picture of a skull looking back at you on the right plane. In the center of the wreckage. I dont know, I just watched the ghost thread. Still very tragic.
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: Torque on September 04, 2007, 02:12:39 PM
dang...
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: Denholm on September 04, 2007, 03:34:05 PM
Ram tard.
Title: Airshow accident in Poland
Post by: Maverick on September 04, 2007, 06:56:03 PM
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Originally posted by Denholm
Ram tard.


Just plain tard.  ^

Real classy to make fun of something like that.
                          :huh