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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: JB88 on September 02, 2007, 08:46:18 AM
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senator busted in sex scandal... (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-craig_finalsep02,1,505059.story)
yoda say - strangely quiet on this subject, the o-club is.
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It's OLD news. This is September, it happened in June. It's another sad "scandal", among a group of people known for that sort of thing. It really isn't news at all.
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oh.
cuz i keep hearing about these people and these are the ones who are supposed to be morally outraged at the "liberal" agenda that is going to turn all of our kids into homos.
hm.
maybe the fact that he announced his resignation....which is what the article is about...was already talked about in advance in june and i just missed it.
by group of people that are known for that type of thing...do you mean the party of upstanding republican christians?
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Dont tap your right foot in the stall, you may be giving the go-ahead
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Originally posted by JB88
oh.
cuz i keep hearing about these people and these are the ones who are supposed to be morally outraged at the "liberal" agenda that is going to turn all of our kids into homos.
hm.
maybe the fact that he announced his resignation....which is what the article is about...was already talked about in advance in june and i just missed it.
by group of people that are known for that type of thing...do you mean the party of upstanding republican christians?
:rolleyes:
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By the way, the Republicans, as a general rule, tend to run the perverts out. Unlike the other party that seems to embrace perverts, unless the perverts are Republicans. Go figure. And you knew EXACTLY what I meant when I said "a group of people generally known for that sort of thing". And it was Congress. But then, like I said, you knew that.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
This is September, it happened in June.
OMG are you serious about September!? :rolleyes:
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o. so you were saying that the democrats generally have more problems with sex scandals or that they don't get caught or that all politicians regardless of party have a predisposition towards perversion.
this is what i have a hard time grasping...parties in general to start with, but beyond this, the ability for a member of one party to shame one on the other side while excusing a member of their own.
its a bit of a contradiction to say that one party is good at weeding itself while stating that congress itself is corrupt....so which is it that has gone astray and or immoral? is it politicians or is it democrats?
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Craig... resigned.
Barney Frank....representing Massachusetts's 4th congressional district since 1981.
Of course, Craig did tap his foot in a restroom stall while Frank only cohabitated with a known male prostitute who ran an escort service out of Frank's home.
Thank Cod for double standards; without those, we'd have no standards whatsover!
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Neither of them did anything wrong (illegal) as far as I'm concerned. Frank is an admitted homosexual. Craig is a hypocrite. If he had propositioned a woman in the airport we would have heard nothing about it.
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Poor g*y was probably just knocking on the toilet wall to borrow some toilet paper when the thought police caught him for morally suspicious activity. :rolleyes:
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i do know one thing.
if somebody accused me of something that i was not guilty of...i would be raising hell like nobodies business.
if somebody tried to entrap me to expose what was otherwise my own personal business, i would burn the place down before i would let them get away with it.
i would be bringing up the constitutional issues. i would be asking these questions until i lost my voice.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Neither of them did anything wrong (illegal) as far as I'm concerned. Frank is an admitted homosexual. Craig is a hypocrite.
Maybe if Craig would just have admited he was a homosexual, he wouldn't have had to resign. Is that what you're saying?
So, I guess we need to get all hypocrites out of elected office immediately.
Of course...then there wouldn't be anyone at all in elected office but... hey...
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Calm down already, 2+2=5.
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There's creeps and losers in every party.
Just as it would be entirely inappropriate to take a democrat who's a loser and painting the entire democratic party with that same brush, it's wrong to make the assumption that because this guy is a total creep that all republicans are.
Sadly, it's such a fantastic dig on the part of both parties when one of those within their ranks shows what a putz they are. Doesn't make it right though.
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Doesn't matter which party they're in: if their personal life is in total turmoil as a result of their own actions, they don't need to represent those within their own communities.
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Originally posted by JB88
senator busted in sex scandal... (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-craig_finalsep02,1,505059.story)
yoda say - strangely quiet on this subject, the o-club is.
I figured he would be rooming with this man soon (http://www.house.gov/frank/) then they could be free to play footsies across the aisle with each other.
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Originally posted by moot
Calm down already, 2+2=5.
well, to any decent forward thinking individual it does.
;)
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Originally posted by Toad
Craig... resigned.
Barney Frank....representing Massachusetts's 4th congressional district since 1981.
Of course, Craig did tap his foot in a restroom stall while Frank only cohabitated with a known male prostitute who ran an escort service out of Frank's home.
Thank Cod for double standards; without those, we'd have no standards whatsover!
And Barney found that dude to live with him by responding to an ad in a "special" newspaper that said, and I quote, "hot bottom plus large endowment equals fun...."
Did I mention I "used" to live in MASS? I couldn't take it.
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Originally posted by TalonX
Did I mention I "used" to live in MASS? I couldn't take it.
was it raining men?
:confused:
:p
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Originally posted by JB88
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/514QZH8XGPL._AA240_.jpg)
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Originally posted by JB88
o. so you were saying that the democrats generally have more problems with sex scandals or that they don't get caught or that all politicians regardless of party have a predisposition towards perversion.
this is what i have a hard time grasping...parties in general to start with, but beyond this, the ability for a member of one party to shame one on the other side while excusing a member of their own.
its a bit of a contradiction to say that one party is good at weeding itself while stating that congress itself is corrupt....so which is it that has gone astray and or immoral? is it politicians or is it democrats?
Bill Clinton?
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Originally posted by PanzerIV
you must be special.
good for you.
;)
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Originally posted by JB88
you must be special.
good for you.
;)
actually I am not, if youd like to see my high School schedule I have classes that expect more than would be expected of the average student.
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Originally posted by PanzerIV
actually I am not, if youd like to see my high School schedule I have classes that expect more than would be expected of the average student.
i can't think of anything in the world more thrilling than the prospect of reading your high school schedule.
and here i was thinking the day was a wash.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
If he had propositioned a woman in the airport we would have heard nothing about it.
Bob Packwood (R-OR) pinched a woman's bellybutton and he was forced out. Something about sexual harrasment.
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Originally posted by JB88
i do know one thing.
if somebody accused me of something that i was not guilty of...i would be raising hell like nobodies business.
if somebody tried to entrap me to expose what was otherwise my own personal business, i would burn the place down before i would let them get away with it.
i would be bringing up the constitutional issues. i would be asking these questions until i lost my voice.
And if you were in congress you would lose your job quickly. Accusation is all that is needed for the electroarte to have second thoughts.
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Originally posted by PanzerIV
actually I am not, if youd like to see my high School schedule I have classes that expect more than would be expected of the average student.
Hmmmm... you're in High School and you're lurking around on THESE boards???????
(http://hubpages.com/u/55444_f260.jpg)
:noid :noid :noid
That, or you're a total looser :p (that's why i'm here anyway)
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
And if you were in congress you would lose your job quickly. Accusation is all that is needed for the electroarte to have second thoughts.
i agree. but if i was innocent i would be making a point of stressing it. ALOT. i would be arguing facts...irregardless of my status as this or that.
i doubt this fellow is innocent...either that or he was just the unlucky one that got chosen to get stuck on the spit for the pre convention bbq.
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Originally posted by JB88
i agree. but if i was innocent i would be making a point of stressing it. ALOT. i would be arguing facts...irregardless of my status as this or that.
i doubt this fellow is innocent...either that or he was just the unlucky one that got chosen to get stuck on the spit for the pre convention bbq.
electorate... electorate... electorate...
Okay, but every time Craig said, "I'm not gay" most people who heard it replied, "Yeah, sure you aren't..."
How was he supposed to prove that? Make a hetero porno? if he'd done that, he would still have lost his job and the electorate would have just figured he was bi.
Guilty or not, Craig lost his job as soon as he was accused. The only way he could see a way out, short of having the arresting officer drop the charge that same afternoon, was to plead to the lesser charge and hope it was brushed under the rug.
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I dont know which is more disgusting, that a Republican senator was caught trying to proposition another man for sex, or that people are actually trying to defend him.
I have tolerance for all people, as long as they are good. But I'm going to repeat something my brother told me:
"It should make a man sick to his stomach to even think about having sex with another man."
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Who is defending Craig?
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Originally posted by DYNAMITE
Hmmmm... you're in High School and you're lurking around on THESE boards???????
(http://hubpages.com/u/55444_f260.jpg)
:noid :noid :noid
That, or you're a total looser :p (that's why i'm here anyway)
lol, I take the first one!
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
I dont know which is more disgusting, that a Republican senator was caught trying to proposition another man for sex, or that people are actually trying to defend him.
I have tolerance for all people, as long as they are good. But I'm going to repeat something my brother told me:
"It should make a man sick to his stomach to even think about having sex with another man."
I think they are both sick, but defending him is definitely disgusting thing.
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Again, who is defending Craig?
I haven't seen anyone defending him; he got the bum's rush out of the Senate and I haven't heard anyone crying over that.
I have seen some double standard action though from the other side of the aisle, as usual.
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zw301ZPctzw&mode=user&search=
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Originally posted by Chairboy
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zw301ZPctzw&mode=user&search=
:lol
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Originally posted by Toad
I have seen some double standard action though from the other side of the aisle, as usual.
By the other side you must mean the hetero side. I didn't see the bums rush given to Senator Vitter. But all he did was visit prostitutes... lucky for him they were chicks.
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I think he meant you liberal supportes of BJ Barney
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Being gay isn't illegal. Much to the consternation of the republican party who would like to make the whole Country "moral" christians.
Bringing up Packwood is a kettle of fish you don't want to open. Unless you're trying to sound silly.
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I think your issue was that Craig was a hypocrite. You're OK with him being a homosexual; no need to resign for that, correct?
Are there none of those hypocrites on the Dem side of the aisle? Are you calling for all hypocrites to resign immediately or not?
Because if you're cool with some hypocrites staying then you'd have to be cool with Craig staying as well. Otherwise, the aforementioned double standard is in evidence once again.
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So you think he should resign simply because he is a homosexual?
Really?
I don't think he sould resign at all. I'm still fuzzy on what exactly he did that was so terrible.
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what i wanna know is...were there holes in the walls to do such a thing? if yes..why are they there? if no, whats the next move? sticking your head under the stall wall? no that wouldnt be bloody obvious. go stand in the next guys stall..that too would be very obvious. so w/o holes in the walls it sounds like a set up. is he guilty...just ask a democrat.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
So you think he should resign simply because he is a homosexual?
Really?
I don't think he sould resign at all. I'm still fuzzy on what exactly he did that was so terrible.
Clouded your vision is, young fool......
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Originally posted by midnight Target
So you think he should resign simply because he is a homosexual?
Really? I don't think he sould resign at all. I'm still fuzzy on what exactly he did that was so terrible.
I probably wouldn't vote for a queer. But if there was a queer in office, I'd expect him to be open about it. Actually, not just queers, but anyone who's got something they feel they need to hide. Otherwise they could be placing keeping their own secrets above the best interest of their constituents. Once it's out in the open, nothing to ping, ding or blackmail them on and it becomes a mute point. Then they can just do their dang job & move on.
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Originally posted by texasmom
I probably wouldn't vote for a queer. But if there was a queer in office, I'd expect him to be open about it. Actually, not just queers, but anyone who's got something they feel they need to hide. Otherwise they could be placing keeping their own secrets above the best interest of their constituents. Once it's out in the open, nothing to ping, ding or blackmail them on and it becomes a mute point. Then they can just do their dang job & move on.
There was a mayoral election in Dallas recently and one of the candidates was liberal and gay. The non gay guy won with the districts voting as I expected, north conservative, south liberal, with the exception of one area north of the trinity river. I looked at the voting map and thought, what the heck? Then I remembered, oh yeah, that's the area in north Dallas that is predominantly gay. Do you think most people vote based on their own self interest or what's best for everyone? In the long term these are the same but the short term may appear otherwise.
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his senate seat is up for election in 08, the demos would try to drag out the "investigation" to affect the election, the republicans wanted him to resign so the republican governor of Idaho can appoint a republican to fill the seat. That way there will be a republican incumbent for the 08 election.
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Originally posted by texasmom
I probably wouldn't vote for a queer. But if there was a queer in office, I'd expect him to be open about it. Actually, not just queers, but anyone who's got something they feel they need to hide. Otherwise they could be placing keeping their own secrets above the best interest of their constituents. Once it's out in the open, nothing to ping, ding or blackmail them on and it becomes a mute point. Then they can just do their dang job & move on.
there you go making sense again txmom, I think if you check the forum rules you'll find making sense isn't allowed.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Do you think most people vote based on their own self interest or what's best for everyone? In the long term these are the same but the short term may appear otherwise.
Each person should vote based upon their own self interest. If not, what's the point of voting? Officials are elected based upon their ability to represent the constituents within their jurisdiction. The results of an election (enough folks saying that one particular person shares enough of their common personal interests) show which person is most closely aligned with the interests of their community.
Do you think that when you vote you should place your self interests above the 'best interests of the community?' And you're right, they usually end up being the same.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
So you think he should resign simply because he is a homosexual?
Really?
I don't think he sould resign at all. I'm still fuzzy on what exactly he did that was so terrible.
Nope, I didn't say that. I have said that those on the Dem side of the aisle making a BFD out of this are applying a double standard.
Politics being what it is, I understand why the Reps decided to throw him under the bus ASAP. Is directly linked to the next election.
As for him continuing in his job, I think that's a call the voters of his district should and would make.
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(http://hubpages.com/u/55444_f260.jpg)
That picture is hilarious !!!
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Originally posted by JB88
..irregardless
I don't know why but this non-word really chaps my hide.
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i'm sure that with all of those babies rolling around that you probably have some sort of tender bottom salve that can fix that right up.
;)
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Originally posted by JB88
i'm sure that with all of those babies rolling around that you probably have some sort of tender bottom salve that can fix that right up.
;)
Ohhhhhh that sounds nice..... afk. :aok
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Originally posted by PanzerIV
Clouded your vision is, young fool......
It's pretty clear to me that this is the dumbest post in this thread.
young... heh.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Being gay isn't illegal. Much to the consternation of the republican party who would like to make the whole Country "moral" christians.
Bringing up Packwood is a kettle of fish you don't want to open. Unless you're trying to sound silly.
Seems some in the media have brought up Packwood (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20491175/)
And that scandal about a young intern who's body was dug up in Rock Creek Park? The Representative lost his job when the votors said "We'll be voting for someone else."
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Seems some in the media have brought up Packwood (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20491175/)
And that scandal about a young intern who's body was dug up in Rock Creek Park? The Representative lost his job when the votors said "We'll be voting for someone else."
whose :cool:
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...and as predicted, he's had a sudden change of heart about resigning.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8REVOK80&show_article=1
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I don't know what the big deal is chairboy footsie craig may have precedent to remain in his seat. BJ Barney still has his seat even though they were allegedly running a gay prostitution ring out of his home. gay prostitution is probably not a far fetch for those beltway insider type guys anyway, they have been doing something similar for years.
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Did I say it was a big deal? I think the sting sounds like stinky bait, and I think the police there are wasting tax payer money. The link I posted was just an update to the story, I think it's funny that he plead guilty, promised to resign, and has now backpedaled.
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I sure hope the Repubs in here don't hurt themselves trying to unpat their backs after the recent turn of events. OTOH if you think the (almost) resignation of Craig and the non-resignation of Vitter have nothing to do with the party affiliation of their respective governors you may just need to take a seat in the corner and watch.
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http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Gerry_Studds
On July 20, 1983, Studds was censured for having an affair 10 years earlier with a male page. He turned his back as the charges against him were read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Frank
In 1990, the House voted to reprimand Frank when it was revealed that Steve Gobie, a male escort whom Frank had befriended after hiring him through a personal advertisement, claimed to have conducted an escort service from Frank's apartment ......
Democratic Rep. Gary Condit’s affair with an intern in 2002-stayed in office until recall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parris_Glendening
D- Gov. Glendening divorced his wife and married one of his deputy chiefs of staff, Jennifer Crawford,. Crawford was 35 -59-year-old Glendening, and she was pregnant at their wedding.
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Not even a hint of resigning from these buggers In fact they defended their behavior and told their accusers to bug off.
quick search on Republicans.....
R-Foley---resigned
R-Craig---Resigning
R-Joe Scarborough, forced to resign