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Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: Furball on September 03, 2007, 03:48:57 PM
I often see people complaining about how this game is no longer how it used to be, how it was a long time ago when it was more about the fight and having fun than winning the war, do you think that this is due to the game becoming too serious?

No longer are new aircraft made with hidden bottles of alcohol, and the hidden graffiti on the aircraft.  No longer do we have giant squids in the oceans, giant beer and pizzas. Not even aliens.

Instead this has been replaced by land grabbing and rank, people too highly strung to have fun and a bit of banter, too obsessed by their ratio's to salute the person who has just outflown them.

The game is obviously far more successful and HTC have done a great job bringing the game forward, but for those people who have seen it all the way through, has it lost its fun factor?

This is by no means a dig at HTC, it was this thread which made me think of it: -

http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=214194
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: Guppy35 on September 03, 2007, 03:59:37 PM
I don't think I can take it any less seriously then I do already.  I'm having as much fun as ever.

Seems to me the secret is to not let those who are too serious, get in the way of your fun.

It's still on me how I approach the game.:aok
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: Vudak on September 03, 2007, 04:13:14 PM
I think it would be hilarious to be in a fight down on the deck, come around a turn, and lawn dart against some giant squid :)

Did that ever happen?  I subscribed right at the end of AH1...  I only had a few weeks in there and never got to see many of these Easter Eggs I've read so much about :(
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: Xargos on September 03, 2007, 04:19:41 PM
I miss the squid.
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: grayman1 on September 03, 2007, 04:35:14 PM
This game has gotten very serious for a lot of people. I have been playing from day one and it is not as much fun, but i still play
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: C(Sea)Bass on September 03, 2007, 04:40:58 PM
CBass feels the game needs to have stupid stuff for CBass to shoot at. CBass is tired of only shooting at stupid people. CBass does not want a squid, CBass and squid do not get along.
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: Xargos on September 03, 2007, 04:51:59 PM
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CBass and squid do not get along.


:rofl
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: LYNX on September 03, 2007, 04:52:59 PM
I think I still player the same as always.  Going as far back as Fighter Ops.  A little more knowledgeable with the game perhaps.  I did enjoy stumbling across squiddie and area 52 crashed UFO.....even flying under the golden gate bridge pre 9.11.  Those little things were kinda cool.
Title: Re: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: Softail on September 03, 2007, 05:11:30 PM
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Originally posted by Furball
Ido you think that this is due to the game becoming too serious?

http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=214194


game?!?!?! GAME!!!! YOU THINK THIS IS  A $%#$^#@$%@$#! GAME!

Ha ha ha ha.

Softail
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: OOZ662 on September 03, 2007, 05:44:31 PM
Glad to inspire something. ;)

I wish some of the old jokes would come back. I flew many sectors one day to find The Crater empty in AHII...was a saddening sight.
Title: Re: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: Oldman731 on September 03, 2007, 09:01:34 PM
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Originally posted by Furball
Instead this has been replaced by land grabbing and rank, people too highly strung to have fun and a bit of banter, too obsessed by their ratio's to salute the person who has just outflown them.

I meandered into one of the MAs late last night.  On range channel I listened to Player 1 tell Player 2 that, because Player 2 had missed bombing the enemy carrier several times, the only way Player 2 could "redeem himself" was to kamikaze the carrier.

So I agree with you, if there are people who take it that seriously, we need a toga party or a road trip.

- oldman
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: Meatwad on September 03, 2007, 09:34:29 PM
Sorry I couldnt help myself

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o109/AHmeatwad/ahserious.jpg)
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: FrodeMk3 on September 03, 2007, 10:15:15 PM
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No longer are new aircraft made with hidden bottles of alcohol, and the hidden graffiti on the aircraft. No longer do we have giant squids in the oceans, giant beer and pizzas. Not even aliens.


Furb, that part of it is on Hitech's end, not ours. I'd like to see some of those things coded back in, though (Or, maybe something new and different?)

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Instead this has been replaced by land grabbing and rank, people too highly strung to have fun and a bit of banter, too obsessed by their ratio's to salute the person who has just outflown them.


Now, THAT part is the community. Why the change in AH's social paradigmn is only open to guess. The only thing I'd be willing to say about it is that the change has been noticable since...well, IMHO, the 9/13 arena split.

Now, I know that we just made it through the season of squeakers, which we all refer to as summer, but I'd say that things' were headed the way they were since the split.

I'm gonna say this now, too, even though I haven't talked to my squad CO or XO(Dh367th and Cooley, respectively.)

During that split, we had some of the nastiest fights on these boards ever. I've often wondered if things said here on the boards, during that time, were carried as grudges into the MA's. For a long time, you could hear things' said over local vox, that, well...I'd just like to say that I've never blamed any squad, or any person, for unhapiness during the split. I just wish I could say that of everyone.

However, most of that happened over a year ago. I'm sure that bygones are bygones, now. I hope.
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: KTM520guy on September 03, 2007, 10:26:50 PM
Not as fun as it was a year ago but still having a good time. Got a good group a friends that I enjoy flying with.
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: gpwurzel on September 03, 2007, 10:28:06 PM
Oooh, I take this game so seriously....I cant stand getting shot down/killed etc........I'll run from every fight to stay alive, and sneak kills any which way I can.......errrr, actually......no I dont, I dive into furballs with no regard (which explains why I die a lot lol), I get mullered by ack, buff guns, every other player on the map..........but, the important thing I get out of this game, is vast amounts of fun..........I've met loads of great people, some great virtual sticks (who keep shooting me down at every opportunity...lol), and the great thing about this game, every time I fly/drive/fight, I learn something new.....


all,



:aok

Wurzel
Title: Seriously...
Post by: SOB on September 03, 2007, 11:07:00 PM
(http://www.matthoffman.us/dl/chutekill.jpg)
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: gpwurzel on September 03, 2007, 11:29:25 PM
Now for some strange reason, that pic had me giggling big time...I'm getting very odd looks from the people I work with...but hey, there ya go......




:aok


Wurzel
Title: Re: Re: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: Stoney74 on September 03, 2007, 11:39:05 PM
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Originally posted by Oldman731
So I agree with you, if there are people who take it that seriously, we need a toga party or a road trip.


"Fat, dumb, and stupid is no way to go through life son..."
Title: Re: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: mipoikel on September 04, 2007, 01:05:43 AM
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Originally posted by Furball
I often see people complaining about how this game is no longer how it used to be, how it was a long time ago when it was more about the fight and having fun than winning the war, do you think that this is due to the game becoming too serious?

No longer are new aircraft made with hidden bottles of alcohol, and the hidden graffiti on the aircraft.  No longer do we have giant squids in the oceans, giant beer and pizzas. Not even aliens.

Instead this has been replaced by land grabbing and rank, people too highly strung to have fun and a bit of banter, too obsessed by their ratio's to salute the person who has just outflown them.

The game is obviously far more successful and HTC have done a great job bringing the game forward, but for those people who have seen it all the way through, has it lost its fun factor?

This is by no means a dig at HTC, it was this thread which made me think of it: -

http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=214194



Who are you? Do you even pay to play this game?:mad: :mad: :mad:




:D :D : :t :t :p :p :
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: kj714 on September 04, 2007, 02:12:42 AM
Well this debate has been raging since I started playing in 2003. It's still as fun for me as it always was, if it wasn't I wouldn't still play. Kinda miss the flat buildings though.
Title: Re: Re: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: Furball on September 04, 2007, 02:26:08 AM
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Originally posted by mipoikel
Who are you? Do you even pay to play this game?:mad: :mad: :mad:

 


errr no.... but....


Bastige :mad: :lol

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc302/FurballAH/SB.jpg)
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: pipz on September 04, 2007, 05:33:50 AM
People have been talkin fondly about the "old days" since 2001 heheheh in other words I dont think anything has changed.Theres always this "Romantic" view of how it "use to be".You can prolly find Furballers VS toolshedder threads back in BETA I do miss the little touches ya mentioned though.The bottles of Booz,pizza and giant squid.Kinda gave ya a feeling the guys at HTC were no different than you and came from the same places.NOW THEYRE NOTHING MORE THAN SNOTTY,UPWARDLY MOBEL,NOSE IN THE AIR,SONS OF.........................he hehe kiddin:p  Still havin fun:aok

Pipz
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: Ghosth on September 04, 2007, 07:12:14 AM
Its all the fault of those AW Bastiges I tell ya! (sarcasm off)

Course some of you ex AW types are pretty good people and good friends.
But Hey, I hadn't taken a swipe at you guys for quite a while.  :)

Community really hasn't changed that drastically, whats changed is people.
More ego's, more l33t speak bs, more whines about HO's that were not a HO, collisions, etc.

Part of it is education, part of it is teaching the new people that come along how we do it here. Although I know very well that it can be really hard with some tard is screaming in your ear not to just squelch him. (ps Vanscrew, walleye, and the rest of you who were screaming and squealing last night on range vox )  Like you can keep any kind of immersion going when some punk is screaming in your ear, reminding you minute by minute that yes this IS 2007, not 1944.
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: SlapShot on September 04, 2007, 09:53:27 AM
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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
Why the change in AH's social paradigmn is only open to guess. The only thing I'd be willing to say about it is that the change has been noticable since...well, IMHO, the 9/13 arena split.


IMHO ... it all started to go downhill after the "Championship Shootout". Prior to that, rank was really not a serious objective in this game. Word of mouth and dogfighting reputation was really the only ranking system.

Once they attached money and "fame" to rank ... well ... you now see the results in 2007.

If I remember correctly ... it was the thread originator that won the Championship Shootout ... so he does shoulder some of the responsibilty of ongoing debacle ... :D

"Aces High Championship Shootout
Be a top pilot and win cash prizes flying Aces High!

Starting in December, HTC is awarding the top 15 pilots with the best overall rating at the end of the monthly Tour in the Main Arena a cash prize! The top pilot earns $100 and the remaining pilots in the top 15 earn $50 each. Better yet, the top 15 pilots for each month qualify for the chance to win $500 in the Championship Shootout held after 4 months of qualifying rounds.

Information on how the overall rankings are calculated can be found here: http://www.hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/scoring.html

Players may only qualify and receive a monthly cash prize once during the 4 month contest period. The Championship Shootout takes place after the 4 months of qualifying. The 60 qualifying pilots will face-off in a last-man-standing event for the $500 grand prize! An official rules webpage for the contest will soon be posted on our website. Good luck!"
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: betty on September 04, 2007, 10:08:10 AM
u know furby...i was sayin that last night, i have hard time havin fun anymore on the game. only reason i find myself loggin in is so i can spend some time with my squadies and my TSM boyz. we always have a great convo goin on vox channel but have seemed to have lost the passion to fly any more, its the same maps over and over, i miss the big map, i miss the donut map most of all cuz of FT. and after last night i'm takin a break for awhile, too many idiots on the game ...one in particular.. lets just say that todd420 is back in the game and causing trouble once again. i just had enuff so its break time for me for lil bit anyways, IF i do log on at all will prolly b just to BS with my squadies and my TSM boyz. <>
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: Furball on September 04, 2007, 12:05:08 PM
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Originally posted by SlapShot
If I remember correctly ... it was the thread originator that won the Championship Shootout ... so he does shoulder some of the responsibilty of ongoing debacle ... :D [/B]


:D

Not the first time i have been accused of causing the downfall of this game.
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: scottydawg on September 04, 2007, 02:00:04 PM
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Originally posted by Meatwad
Sorry I couldnt help myself

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o109/AHmeatwad/ahserious.jpg)


I'm so jaded I didn't even laugh at this. It is funny though.
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: Yeager on September 04, 2007, 02:03:49 PM
I enjoyed the game immensely when it was all about AvA and most of the players were adults.  The game has seriously broadened in depth of gameplay and opportunity for variation of approach and I still enjoy the heck out of it.  But it has changed, like things tend to do.  Alot of younger players (much more talented at this than I).  The clincher is, for me at least, it is still fun, mostly, I guess.
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: storch on September 04, 2007, 02:04:53 PM
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Originally posted by scottydawg
I'm so jaded I didn't even laugh at this. It is funny though.
why are you jaded?
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: scottydawg on September 04, 2007, 02:05:32 PM
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Originally posted by storch
why are you jaded?


Jaded by internet memes.  They don't even make me laugh anymore.
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: storch on September 04, 2007, 02:08:04 PM
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Originally posted by scottydawg
Jaded by internet memes.  They don't even make me laugh anymore.
wow, I get lots of laughs from the game and from this BBS.  maybe you take things too seriously, seriously.  :D
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: scottydawg on September 04, 2007, 02:08:38 PM
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Originally posted by storch
wow, I get lots of laughs from the game and from this BBS.  maybe you take things too seriously, seriously.  :D

Seriously?
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: storch on September 04, 2007, 02:16:26 PM
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Originally posted by scottydawg
Seriously?
Seriously (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEL_BT_Z6Yg)
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: P47Gra on September 04, 2007, 02:33:17 PM
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Originally posted by C(Sea)Bass
CBass feels the game needs to have stupid stuff for CBass to shoot at. CBass is tired of only shooting at stupid people. CBass does not want a squid, CBass and squid do not get along.


Yeah CBass squids are bad, but there is no JUG nose art.  I would love to have a Precision squad logo with a pair of JUG's coming at you.  Ohhh watermelon I am in the wrong web site.  Damn.  All hail Floats.  And yeah it is Weirwolfs fault.

JUGMAN
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: scottydawg on September 04, 2007, 02:49:09 PM
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Originally posted by storch
Seriously (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEL_BT_Z6Yg)

\
OK that made me laugh.
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: storch on September 04, 2007, 03:35:31 PM
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Originally posted by scottydawg
\
OK that made me laugh.
look at Dicho's sig line.  whenever I need a chuckle I either read read some of the drivel the FoSGs post or I click on Dicho's sig.

:D
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: scottydawg on September 04, 2007, 03:48:51 PM
Trunk monkey? Yeah, trunk monkey made me fall out of my chair the first time I saw it.
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: Bucky73 on September 04, 2007, 04:53:34 PM
I've only been playing 3 years or so but I would definately have to say the gameplay since I started has gotten much worse. Too many people take it waaaaaay to serious. They TRUELY believe that they somehow improve their social status by being good at a online sim.:rofl

There are still many great guys online that are fun to play with or against but, as a whole the virtual "pilot" gene pool has definately went downhill. I honestly think that if they got rid of rank all together it would drastically improve gameplay. I also believe not having the big maps around contribute to the diminished gameplay.  

It is very rare to find a good fight in the MA anymore without either being in a gang or getting ganged. One of the best fights I've had was a couple of weeks ago against some dude (his name started with a 'N' I believe) in a pony vs. my pony and we literally tangled for 10 minutes and then out of the blue some moron comes in and picks me....such is life in the MA now. Tards are EVERYWHERE!! I would rather have a good fight like that and lose than a brainless one in a gang or furball and win.

<>
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: Meatwad on September 04, 2007, 05:44:52 PM
Did someone say...."Internet Meme"?

(http://www.cnw.com/~josh/ayb_calvin_and_hobbes.jpg)
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: SuperDud on September 04, 2007, 05:48:18 PM
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Originally posted by C(Sea)Bass
CBass feels the game needs to have stupid stuff for CBass to shoot at. CBass is tired of only shooting at stupid people. CBass does not want a squid, CBass and squid do not get along.
LMAO!
Title: Re: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: TalonX on September 04, 2007, 07:07:11 PM
No.
Title: AH - Has it become too serious?
Post by: Baine on September 04, 2007, 08:24:12 PM
My humble opinion, the game started to go down hill when it became necessary to impose all kinds of rules to try to channel gameplay in a certain direction.
I'm not sure if it is necessary or not, but it certainly does add to the frustration factor. It seems these rules frequently require the implementation of other rules which then require additional rules etc. etc. etc.
Or, it could be that after paying to play for 6 or so years (and playing for free for 6 mos. before that) I'm just bored and jaded and looking for something to blame.