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Title: ENY blues
Post by: stephen on September 03, 2007, 07:25:31 PM
I realise that of course the eny value is there to offset  the numbers game, but this is getting rediculouse, i dont log on so I can spend all night trying to climb to the nme in a p47, and I dont log on so I can fly on a map that is boring, small, or badly designd.

Now Im not trying to offer a fix, because I didnt dig this hole, im just letting the community know that if this is the best we can do then somthing is seriously wrong. to many times have I upped to defend a beliegerd base only to be killed by some hot rod who has plane type on his side, we where within 14 players of the next largest team, and we lost several bases to the altitude game....its enough allready, as far as base taking we where very closs to the bish tonight, and myself and my squad logged off in the face of better planes, at high'r alttitudes...

La7's vs pre 1942 planes is not a good match, and frankly some of these maps arent worth changing rooms for...get it together!
:mad:
Title: ENY blues
Post by: AAolds on September 03, 2007, 07:29:32 PM
ENY sucks.
Title: ENY blues
Post by: Latrobe on September 03, 2007, 07:30:37 PM
La'7's vs 1939 is good. I kill lalas in spit 1's all the time, and P-47 are great fighters. Just take off from a base close to the one being attacked at climb up above the enemy. Now YOU have the alt and the guns to kill em all :) .
Title: ENY blues
Post by: Bronk on September 03, 2007, 07:38:02 PM
ENY is great, it makes horde monkeys whine.:aok

Bronk
Title: ENY blues
Post by: leitwolf on September 03, 2007, 07:42:58 PM
Eny sucks?

Switch countries, problem solved.
Title: ENY blues
Post by: VansCrew1 on September 03, 2007, 08:16:05 PM
ENY is a part of the game.Deal with it or CHEESE IT.
Title: ENY blues
Post by: pluck on September 03, 2007, 08:19:24 PM
HTC has given you all the tools to fix the situation. change arena, change team, learn a new plane.  There's 3 quick ones.  It's not everyone elses fault that you are flying for the team with a large number advantage.  Maybe you would prefer locking country numbers per arena, which would probably make your options even more limited.  What idea's do you have to encourage some form of competition in the game? Or do you just want to have no penalty for already having the largest advantage in game, which is large numbers.
Title: Re: ENY blues
Post by: Oldman731 on September 03, 2007, 09:03:29 PM
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Originally posted by stephen
myself and my squad logged off in the face of better planes, at high'r alttitudes...

Not a real ambitious squad?

- oldman
Title: Re: ENY blues
Post by: Masherbrum on September 03, 2007, 09:22:47 PM
Quote
Originally posted by stephen
I realise that of course the eny value is there to offset  the numbers game, but this is getting rediculouse, i dont log on so I can spend all night trying to climb to the nme in a p47, and I dont log on so I can fly on a map that is boring, small, or badly designd.

Now Im not trying to offer a fix, because I didnt dig this hole, im just letting the community know that if this is the best we can do then somthing is seriously wrong. to many times have I upped to defend a beliegerd base only to be killed by some hot rod who has plane type on his side, we where within 14 players of the next largest team, and we lost several bases to the altitude game....its enough allready, as far as base taking we where very closs to the bish tonight, and myself and my squad logged off in the face of better planes, at high'r alttitudes...

La7's vs pre 1942 planes is not a good match, and frankly some of these maps arent worth changing rooms for...get it together!
:mad:
I can list about 15 planes above 15 that can pwn an La7.
Title: Re: ENY blues
Post by: Stoney74 on September 03, 2007, 11:58:29 PM
Quote
Originally posted by stephen
Ii dont log on so I can spend all night trying to climb to the nme in a p47


Coincidentally, I do spend all night trying to climb to the nme in a P-47.  As a result, I have no issues with ENY.
Title: ENY blues
Post by: Vudak on September 04, 2007, 12:31:00 AM
If ENY restrictions didn't exist, I'd be able to afford a lot more -4's.
Title: Re: Re: ENY blues
Post by: gunnss on September 04, 2007, 02:42:40 AM
I'm with Stoney,
My best tours were in the 47, maintained a 14 to 1 ratio for a while...
Gunns,
or Kevin or who ever I am (Grin)




Quote
Originally posted by Stoney74
Coincidentally, I do spend all night trying to climb to the nme in a P-47.  As a result, I have no issues with ENY.
Title: Re: ENY blues
Post by: mrshiver on September 04, 2007, 12:10:49 PM
Quote
Originally posted by stephen
La7's vs pre 1942 planes is not a good match,


Most fun I've ever had was taking down late war planes with a Hurri MK I.
Title: Re: ENY blues
Post by: SlapShot on September 04, 2007, 01:00:32 PM
Quote
Originally posted by stephen
 :cry
Title: ENY blues
Post by: AAolds on September 04, 2007, 01:51:31 PM
I do switch sides and such.  My gripe with ENY is that it eats into my perking earning when flying 190A8.
Title: Re: Re: ENY blues
Post by: Shifty on September 04, 2007, 02:14:19 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Oldman731
Not a real ambitious squad?

- oldman


:lol  That ones a gem OM.
Title: Re: ENY blues
Post by: Shuffler on September 04, 2007, 02:48:35 PM
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Originally posted by stephen

.... and myself and my squad logged off in the face of better planes, at high'r alttitudes...   (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q96/Shuff_photos/AddEmoticons04219.gif)

 


To Better Pilots!  :aok
Title: ENY blues
Post by: Bronk on September 04, 2007, 03:20:35 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AAolds
I do switch sides and such.  My gripe with ENY is that it eats into my perking earning when stick stirring 190A8.


Fixed:p :D

Bronk
Title: ENY blues
Post by: Anyone on September 04, 2007, 03:20:46 PM
the other choice is to fly knits..... never have ENY issues here :aok
Title: Re: ENY blues
Post by: hubsonfire on September 04, 2007, 06:58:03 PM
Quote
Originally posted by stephen
Now Im not trying to offer a fix, because I didnt dig this hole, im just letting the community know that if this is the best we can do then somthing is seriously wrong.  


I'm not going to offer one of the obvious solutions to this problem of yours, because it's not my fault. I will, however, say that if griping about ENY is the best you can do, then something is seriously wrong.
Title: ENY blues
Post by: Nilsen on September 05, 2007, 02:04:33 AM
Try hopping in a G6, or G2. They are always available and great for climbing up to the alt monkeys


i like ENY
Title: ENY blues
Post by: Nilsen on September 05, 2007, 02:06:44 AM
Quote
Originally posted by AAolds
I do switch sides and such.  My gripe with ENY is that it eats into my perking earning when flying 190A8.


What do you want perks for? All they are good for is flying homo-erotic planes ;)
Title: ENY blues
Post by: Lusche on September 05, 2007, 07:51:32 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Nilsen
What do you want perks for? All they are good for is flying homo-erotic planes ;)


I do like flying them...
Title: ENY blues
Post by: Solar10 on September 05, 2007, 10:48:18 AM
See my sig...

A Mossie at ENY 25 is an excellent attack and a fine fighter.
Title: ENY blues
Post by: Motherland on September 05, 2007, 07:31:20 PM
All my rides are above 20. Bf. 109 G14 and K4 are 20, and the G2 and F4 are 30. The Yak 9U is 20, as well as the Spit 9, which I fly occaisonally. I have no problem with ENY. Infact, I dont even start to realise theres an ENY until I see the whining on country channel.
Title: ENY blues
Post by: stephen on September 06, 2007, 01:33:42 AM
Had a night of blessed reprieve, but back to the gripe at hand.

Now honestly folks, la7's spit 16's temp's are gona usualy kill p47's, c2's p40's and early model 38's, thats just it....
Personaly I prefer the FW-190d9, or ki84, and yes I fly perkies a whole heck of alot as well, {f4u4-temp} and I recall that night that the eny was way up, and I was jumped along with a couple of squaddies just  over the water out of a22, by approx. 6 nme a/c, was stuck in some darn p47 midwar model, and was just outperformed.

Its kinda like ww2,and lets say... the Japanese, flying what ammounts to an early war plane for the duration {a6m} your fighting an uphill battle, playing with a stacked deck, etc. etc. and appart from how dangerouse that was then, NOW its just boring, frustrating, and to tell you the truth its not fair to those that prefer to fly away from the great green and red blob.

The fact that it {eny} affects primarily the best room at any given time only makes it less likly im gonna change teams {and the fact that no self respecting player would want to be a knit or bish anyway},...Oh yeah and why after working base captures and the like for two hours would I want to change into another room and start over again anyway?  

Perhaps in fairness there should be a system were if the eny goes to some insane ammount, then beginning with the most recently logged on pilots on the offending team, eject with a quotation explaining that they need to go to the other room and party in there for a bit. whine or no there must be a way thats fair.
:aok
Title: ENY blues
Post by: Flayed1 on September 06, 2007, 02:07:04 AM
LOL learn a new plane...   The KI61 is wonderfull at 15 K  and will out turn an LA7, at least the ones that tried with me.     I have no issues with ENY at all because the planes I love most are well below ENY usually other than the B-17 :( but I understand that as they are by far the most capable bomber.


  Others in my squad have complaned about ENY but I see it as an obstical to over come rather than an (Aww CR** I quit button) .   I say learn the lower end planes and over come the obstical that is in your way rather than just give up because you can't fly your uber plane
Title: ENY blues
Post by: Bronk on September 06, 2007, 04:56:51 AM
Quote
Originally posted by stephen
Had a night of blessed reprieve, but back to the gripe at hand.

Now honestly folks, la7's spit 16's temp's are gona usualy kill p47's, c2's p40's and early model 38's, thats just it....
Personaly I prefer the FW-190d9, or ki84, and yes I fly perkies a whole heck of alot as well, {f4u4-temp} and I recall that night that the eny was way up, and I was jumped along with a couple of squaddies just  over the water out of a22, by approx. 6 nme a/c, was stuck in some darn p47 midwar model, and was just outperformed.

Its kinda like ww2,and lets say... the Japanese, flying what ammounts to an early war plane for the duration {a6m} your fighting an uphill battle, playing with a stacked deck, etc. etc. and appart from how dangerouse that was then, NOW its just boring, frustrating, and to tell you the truth its not fair to those that prefer to fly away from the great green and red blob.

The fact that it {eny} affects primarily the best room at any given time only makes it less likly im gonna change teams {and the fact that no self respecting player would want to be a knit or bish anyway},...Oh yeah and why after working base captures and the like for two hours would I want to change into another room and start over again anyway?  

Perhaps in fairness there should be a system were if the eny goes to some insane ammount, then beginning with the most recently logged on pilots on the offending team, eject with a quotation explaining that they need to go to the other room and party in there for a bit. whine or no there must be a way thats fair.
:aok


No, how about you and the rest of your horde monkey compatriots jump to the low side and even it up. If ya do like that, then suck it up and learn to fly high eny AC.

Bronk
Title: Re: Re: ENY blues
Post by: wipass on September 06, 2007, 05:03:29 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
I can list about 15 planes above 15 that can pwn an La7.



I bet you can't, if the LA7 driver doesn't want to die then he simply won't.

wipass
Title: ENY does suck, but
Post by: 4deck on September 06, 2007, 01:10:53 PM
I upped a SPIT V last night. Hadnt upped one for so long now, had a blast in that thing. Gotta choose your fight a little more cautious, but was fun.

Still learning the YAK, another plane I dig. It again has its nuances that Im still dealing with. I try to maintain my speed, but Im so used to using WEP, that I must control my reactions. Either way it helps my uber doober ride the 16. Im actually getting alot better in the plane. But mostly Im a spit dweeb that drools on self. So screw it.:aok
Title: ENY blues
Post by: stephen on September 06, 2007, 05:37:05 PM
dont really dig on hordes Bronk, but thx for the response all the same.
Title: Re: Re: Re: ENY blues
Post by: SlapShot on September 07, 2007, 08:58:56 AM
Quote
Originally posted by wipass
I bet you can't, if the LA7 driver doesn't want to die then he simply won't.

wipass


Only if they don't engage, has a boat load of E, or run after the first 2 merges.
Title: ENY blues
Post by: stephen on September 09, 2007, 01:40:44 PM
which 90% of la's do.
anyway as an update ive decided you guys are right, so instead of joining the largest room, from now on ill join the small ones..eny seems more constant the worse the map is.:aok
Title: Re: Re: ENY blues
Post by: Spazzter on September 10, 2007, 01:19:45 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
I can list about 15 planes above 15 that can pwn an La7.


I agree, just fly a spit 9, you can not only fly a plane eny of 20 and kill all the La7's you like, but you can be called a dweeb while doing it.  It just doesn't get any better than that.


Spazz
Title: ENY blues
Post by: Spazzter on September 10, 2007, 01:21:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AAolds
I do switch sides and such.  My gripe with ENY is that it eats into my perking earning when flying 190A8.



If you are flying a 190A8 then you have no need for perks.


Spazz
Title: ENY blues
Post by: acfireguy26 on September 10, 2007, 02:34:14 PM
La5 is a 20 eny plane. I kill La7's and p51d's  in it quite often. Perkies are great in that plane.
Title: ENY blues
Post by: AAolds on September 10, 2007, 03:38:35 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Spazzter
If you are flying a 190A8 then you have no need for perks.


Spazz


I do when I want to fly 262s or other perked planes, and ENY cuts into the earning power of my 190A8.

To me ENY is like welfare.  Another bad idea.
Title: ENY blues
Post by: bj229r on September 10, 2007, 07:50:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by stephen
Had a night of blessed reprieve, but back to the gripe at hand.

Now honestly folks, la7's spit 16's temp's are gona usualy kill p47's, c2's p40's and early model 38's, thats just it....
Personaly I prefer the FW-190d9, or ki84, and yes I fly perkies a whole heck of alot as well, {f4u4-temp} and I recall that night that the eny was way up, and I was jumped along with a couple of squaddies just  over the water out of a22, by approx. 6 nme a/c, was stuck in some darn p47 midwar model, and was just outperformed.

Its kinda like ww2,and lets say... the Japanese, flying what ammounts to an early war plane for the duration {a6m} your fighting an uphill battle, playing with a stacked deck, etc. etc. and appart from how dangerouse that was then, NOW its just boring, frustrating, and to tell you the truth its not fair to those that prefer to fly away from the great green and red blob.

The fact that it {eny} affects primarily the best room at any given time only makes it less likly im gonna change teams {and the fact that no self respecting player would want to be a knit or bish anyway},...Oh yeah and why after working base captures and the like for two hours would I want to change into another room and start over again anyway?  

Perhaps in fairness there should be a system were if the eny goes to some insane ammount, then beginning with the most recently logged on pilots on the offending team, eject with a quotation explaining that they need to go to the other room and party in there for a bit. whine or no there must be a way thats fair.
:aok

Heck, the K4 is one of the uberest planes in AH, --essentially an La7 with less view, but taters instead of 3 20's...and it has an eny of TWENTY....if your eny is past THAT you deserve to die in whatevr P.O.S. is left over
Title: ENY blues
Post by: hubsonfire on September 10, 2007, 08:12:55 PM
Quote
Originally posted by bj229r
an eny of TWENTY....if your eny is past THAT you deserve to die in whatevr P.O.S. is left over


Amen.