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Title: BSG madness
Post by: Octavius on September 03, 2007, 09:44:44 PM
Final season will contain 20 episodes.  Okay, cool, but... we might not see the finale til 2009.  I just might slit my wrists.

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And some bad news: There are 20 episodes in the final season and the plan now from Sci-Fi is to show 10 of them in Feb. of 2008 and then wait until Feb. of 2009 to show the final 10! Needless to say, the large crowd at the panel was not pleased considering the 18-month gap we are already enduring.


Possible spoilers, you've been warned:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33862
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Slash27 on September 03, 2007, 09:53:29 PM
wtf is that about? BSG has gone Sopranos on us.
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Chairboy on September 03, 2007, 10:21:49 PM
Don't forget, there's new BSG next month.  It's a multi-part bit that takes place aboard....

The Pegasus.

(http://hallert.net/images/bsp_cylon_int.png)

Well, that's not the name, but we'll see.  It takes place before the reunion, and should be interesting.
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Tango on September 03, 2007, 10:23:15 PM
The shows been a bit of a let down for me. I STILL can't understand why they made Starbuck a woman. No offense, Ladies, but its like making the next Bond movie with a woman.
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Chairboy on September 03, 2007, 10:25:04 PM
Tango, how many episodes did you watch?  This version of the show is waaay better than the original.  When's the last time you watched some Lorne Greene BSG?  I rented the series a few years ago, and was shocked at how much it sucked compared to my memory of it.  

If you're coasting on memories from your childhood, then you're running on fumes my friend.  :D
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Slash27 on September 03, 2007, 11:52:24 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy

If you're coasting on memories from your childhood, then you're running on fumes my friend.  :D


yep, the new series greatness.

Had no clue about a Pegasus series, thanks for the heads up:aok
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Fulmar on September 04, 2007, 12:55:41 AM
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Originally posted by Tango
The shows been a bit of a let down for me.

Please :huh
Title: BSG madness
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on September 04, 2007, 01:54:45 AM
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Originally posted by Tango
The shows been a bit of a let down for me. I STILL can't understand why they made Starbuck a woman. No offense, Ladies, but its like making the next Bond movie with a woman.


Simple, they interchanged the 80's hip homoerotic Apollo/Starbuck stance to a more modern heterosexual one. :aok
Title: BSG madness
Post by: scot12b on September 04, 2007, 05:26:33 AM
Thank you for the info Octavius. I forgot it start`s back up next month :aok
Title: BSG madness
Post by: lazs2 on September 04, 2007, 07:56:14 AM
The show started out pretty good but it turned into a weepy, PC, soap opera mess.

lazs
Title: BSG madness
Post by: CyranoAH on September 04, 2007, 08:49:46 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
The show started out pretty good but it turned into a weepy, PC, soap opera mess.

lazs


Agreed, last season was a total let down for me.

Daniel
Title: BSG madness
Post by: lazs2 on September 04, 2007, 09:02:32 AM
but then... some people like weepy, pc, soap operas much better than action anyway.

lazs
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Charon on September 04, 2007, 10:36:40 AM
A great TV series. It's no ROME, but it beats most prime time fare hands down. There were the blatant shark jumps though:

Chief as Union leader
Lee in the "Law and Order" episodes

and a few more minor ones

Charon
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Tango on September 04, 2007, 04:00:11 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Tango, how many episodes did you watch?  This version of the show is waaay better than the original.  When's the last time you watched some Lorne Greene BSG?  I rented the series a few years ago, and was shocked at how much it sucked compared to my memory of it.  

If you're coasting on memories from your childhood, then you're running on fumes my friend.  :D


Oh, I've watched them all but as Lazs2, says its just a soap opera.

I really liked Farscape and wished they had left it on.
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Tac on September 04, 2007, 07:13:28 PM
Farscape was a joke.

LEXX on the other hand... was a joke well done.


'We fight for Zev'! ;)
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Tango on September 04, 2007, 08:29:31 PM
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Originally posted by Tac
Farscape was a joke.

LEXX on the other hand... was a joke well done.


'We fight for Zev'! ;)


LEXX? :rofl
Title: BSG madness
Post by: lazs2 on September 05, 2007, 09:49:21 AM
I think all the skinny women beating up men pretty much showed the PC agenda of the thing.   I can't believe men watch the show... but then... I could never figure out why men watch soap operas either.   I guess they are there to watch attractive people and maybe get a glimpse or two of naked T & A once in a great while.

lazs
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Sikboy on September 05, 2007, 10:59:20 AM
I loved the Mini-series.

The 1st season was compelling.

The 2d... started to lose me.

I haven't seen the 3d season yet, I'm waiting for the DVD release.

-Sik
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Thrawn on September 05, 2007, 04:02:32 PM
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Originally posted by CyranoAH
Agreed, last season was a total let down for me.

Daniel



No it wasn't.  Probably the coolest scene in all tv history happened in third season of BSG.  The unique viper launch.
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Chairboy on September 05, 2007, 04:09:47 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Probably the coolest scene in all tv history happened in third season of BSG.  The unique viper launch.
Seconded.  I've rewatched that scene a bunch of times, even did a frame by frame analysis and photogrammetry to figure out the speed of the you know what.  

Wifey and I were both standing up and yelling at the TV as the scene ended, it was...  well done.

But Lazs is too busy touching up his tattoos with Sharpies and carefully coordinating the amount of dirt on his Charger to cultivate a careful air of "rough, don't care 'bout no nothing" tough guy savoir faire.  :D
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Slash27 on September 05, 2007, 04:13:47 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
No it wasn't.  Probably the coolest scene in all tv history happened in third season of BSG.  The unique viper launch.


Im drawing a blank:huh
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Thrawn on September 05, 2007, 04:20:53 PM
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Originally posted by Slash27
Im drawing a blank:huh




Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x52joWFK86I

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Slash27 on September 05, 2007, 06:12:50 PM
oh yeah...duh:confused:


That did kick ass:D
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Vulcan on September 05, 2007, 06:40:31 PM
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Originally posted by Tango
LEXX? :rofl


yes... Lexx

(http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827/1d/www.space.com/images/h_haberman_02,0.jpg)

(http://www.georgehernandez.com/h/Media/People/EvaHabermann.jpgp)
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Swager on September 05, 2007, 07:14:52 PM
The new BSG is a let down for me too.  For someone who watched the original series it is hard to compare.  

Granted the new series is good but they should not have called it Battlestar Galactia if they were not going to keep the characters in tune to what they were.
Title: BSG madness
Post by: WilldCrd on September 05, 2007, 08:00:34 PM
I really love the new BSG
That being said I cant understand why the sci-fi chnl splits the seasons up like they do. makes no frakkin sense! And they way they release the DVD's is totally frakkin sensless as well.
ya get season 1..all of it but for season 2 ya buy it and then ya gotta go back and get 2.5...WTF!!!???:furious :furious
Im dreading how season 3 will come out on DVD.

And just a FYI its not so much the sci-fi chnls execs its their parent company....< drumroll please> NB(we smoke crack in the boardroom)C !!

It all really pisses me off. I'll still watch the show but it still pisses me off.
think ill write yet another strongly worded letter to the genetic defectives in charge of scheduling voicing my strong displeasure with their apparent lack of consideration for the peons that make their high salaries and big bonuses possible.




  :cry
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Slash27 on September 05, 2007, 09:34:07 PM
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Originally posted by Swager
The new BSG is a let down for me too.  For someone who watched the original series it is hard to compare.  

Granted the new series is good but they should not have called it Battlestar Galactia if they were not going to keep the characters in tune to what they were.


You really have that much stock in the original Swager?  It was a poor mans Star Wars at the time. Now so much now.


Just my opinion:D
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Charon on September 05, 2007, 10:08:37 PM
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You really have that much stock in the original Swager? It was a poor mans Star Wars at the time. Now so much now.


I agree. I was primed for a good TV Star Wars, was big into Sci Fi and Science Fiction at the time, read the concept previews in a sci fi mag and it was nothing like the concept. Frackin' disco in space. Just another Bionic Man/Woman, Buck Rodgers in the 25th century late 70s TV production -- without Erin Gray (http://www.cylon.org/babes/cababe002.html)  I might add.

Charon
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Chairboy on September 06, 2007, 10:04:18 AM
For the BSG scene linked above, I did a little bit of photogrammetric measurement to calculate the speed, if anyone is interested:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.battlestar-galactica/browse_thread/thread/e08a09d6a706d9e/5f0170d2c1feaf5c?rnum=3#5f0170d2c1feaf5c
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Sabre on September 06, 2007, 02:22:15 PM
The vertical viper launch episode was the only one not a complete yawn-er for the last to seasons (if you can call the late-term-abortion-like sequence they called a third season).  The writers have managed to turn me against every charactor in the series (not a one that I care if they live or die at this point), and the story line is a complete and unbelieveable mess.  It's simply too soap-opera-ish, too moody, too dark, and to drawn out.  And yes, I never did like that they made Starbuck a woman, so there.:furious

At this point, I don't really care when the season starts, or ends; if I see it at all, it'll be to rent it or download it when it comes out on DVD.
Title: BSG madness
Post by: 68Wooley on September 06, 2007, 06:53:36 PM
Are we talking about the Viper launch relatively near the start of the season? That was kinda cool.

The big problem lately is that the Cylons have gone soft. Early on when they were you're simple run-of-the-mill genocidal mechanoids, everything was sweet. Now that they've discovered religion and gone all introspective on us, the show's gone to pot. We need them to get back with the program of nuking humanity to so many bits of glow-in-the-dark dust then we might see some action.
Title: BSG madness
Post by: -tronski- on September 06, 2007, 07:34:29 PM
I was seriously in the Starbuck should be still a man and the 70's show should not be messed with side too...until I actually saw the mini-series!

BSG is an awesome show, and I got my season 3 DVD's from the AmazonUK yesterday but I thought they did seriously come close to have the fonz on those water skis with the final 5 cylons reveal....of all the choices, they made bad ones (at least they didn't go Adam, Roslin, or Apollo)...but I have high hopes with the Pegasus storyline mini next month, and apparently the Cylon Centurions from the original show make an appearance!

 Tronsky
Title: BSG madness
Post by: AKIron on September 06, 2007, 10:28:29 PM
I have enjoyed the series but it's gotten a bit tired. Hoping they get a second wind.
Title: BSG madness
Post by: MORAY37 on September 07, 2007, 12:04:13 AM
First two seasons were the bomb.  Last season, besides episode 4 (the infamous gravity jump) blew.  It seemed like they fired all the writers (who prolly wanted more money) they could and hired ten coeds (who would work for Ramen noodles) to mix things up, coeds that never passed a literature class.  Seemed like they completely lost any sense of where they were or where they were going... now the Cylons are all soft and smooshy...

I personally liked Starbuck being a chick, at least while she was flying sht hot.  Now she's a basket case...and somehow still has more balls than Lee Adama... the on-again off-again CAG...  I really hope they somehow grab my attention back... and get back to gritty.
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Swager on September 07, 2007, 01:50:56 AM
Well I am a poor man.  :)

Changing the characters the way they did had given me a negative right away.  I mean, listen to the name....StarBUCK!   A buck is a male deer.  Now if they changed the name to Stardoe, it might have been better.  :)

I watched the show and could not get into it like I did the old one.  I still enjoy watching the original series when it comes on.
Title: BSG madness
Post by: lazs2 on September 07, 2007, 08:42:57 AM
I think a lot of you just like to think that men and women are the same.

I do agree with moray on this except for the last part... I don't care if a main pilot got changed into a woman.. I do care that she is a hot little piece that I would have to be careful to not backhand into a comma that they are showing beating the crap out of men I would have a hard time defending myself against.

None of the characters is likeable.. they all are schitzos... the admiral goes from WWII german national socialist to 70's hippy to wise old general all over the place.

They force a lot of PC situations to appear relevant... it is painful to watch the stretch.   A person suicide bombs into a room full of secret police gestapos and they make it seem to be exactly the same as some true believer blowing up a bunch of innocent kids in a market place for instance..

the boxing match was just plain out there.   Highly trained pilots being used as meatgrinder troops...  cylons evil one day...  brad pit and his woman the next...  weepy and missunderstood.

lazs
Title: BSG madness
Post by: Wotan on September 07, 2007, 11:37:45 AM
Laz is correct - the show started off ok - there was some stupid stuff in season one - got even worse is season 2, and season 3, is completely ridiculous. Sure you can grab and episode or 2 and find some great stuff but as a series its not as good as the '70s in total. Of course anyone going back to watch the '70s series now will find some goofy stuff but at the time is was pretty original for television. If may have been Star Wars like. However, Star Wars was basically 'muppets in space' 75% of the time but the main characters had consistent and identifiable personalities.

The current BSG  series doesn't have much original stuff. There's not much Sc-Fi out there thats truly original. However, the back stories in BSG are completely a bore. Do the writers change for every episode? The characters change personalities at the drop of a dime. They become to stupid its unwatchable most of the time.  Maybe the writers just try to do to much with the characters but it really is 'schitzo'. Then there's to much PC, Left-Wing, Canadian inspired tripe wrapped into most of the episodes that it just becomes silly. As Laz said:

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the admiral goes from WWII german national socialist to 70's hippy to wise old general all over the place.


People like what they like. However, I wouldn't give BSG a second thought it they canceled it tomorrow.