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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: whiteman on September 04, 2007, 03:09:45 PM
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Do these two planes have the same gun packages? I always assumed they did but when flying the F6F I seem to need less rounds to kill a plane. The 51 just doesn't feel as lethal for some reason.
Only reason i noticed is I'm using it for preperation for the event next month and I'm starting to get a bit fustrated with it.
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yes they have the same gun packages..i notice a difference in the way i fly each plane the f6f is slower and i end up in slower turning fights where i have longer to shoot. vs. the pony its more BnZ flyin with tougher shots
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Same gun package with the same lethality. Any perception of difference between the two is merely in the mind of the beholder.
ack-ack
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Thanks, thats what i thought.
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In my mind, the 4 guns of the B pony "feels" more lethal than the D
pony's 6..go figger.
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Originally posted by Rino
In my mind, the 4 guns of the B pony "feels" more lethal than the D
pony's 6..go figger.
I was thinking the same but JimBeam is right, I'll get in more turn fights in the B than i will the D. If i land 4 kills in a D one was a vulche. :D
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It may seem more lethal because the Guns are located closer to the body of the fighter then closer to the wings.
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I've always felt safer when I fly an F6F...I have no clue why...
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F6F is a better turner then a P51D.That may cause the person to get a better angle in the F6F then 51 ie,may seem more lethal then the 51?
just my $.02
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Oddly...I've never seemed to really 'fight' a Pony in a F6...they always seem to cherry pick me...dang runstangs...
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Originally posted by SpikesX
I've always felt safer when I fly an F6F...I have no clue why...
Because it's rugged and can take a hell a lot more punishment than a P-51 could ever take.
ack-ack
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I can't count the number of times i've made it back home in a F6F missing half wing. Can't say the same for the 51 cause the whole wing comes off.
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51 has same guns and same lethality apperantly your just not hitting with the pony it takes me mere mila seconds to de wing a/c same as in the f6f ;)
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Originally posted by evenhaim
51 has same guns and same lethality apperantly your just not hitting with the pony it takes me mere mila seconds to de wing a/c same as in the f6f ;)
get outta here freez :D
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Originally posted by evenhaim
51 has same guns and same lethality apperantly your just not hitting with the pony it takes me mere mila seconds to de wing a/c same as in the f6f ;)
I think i'm starting to get to where i wait to long to pull the trigger in the pony and not giving myself long enough burst. I'm not much of a BNZ person.
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is your convergence the same?
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yeap, 350
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Originally posted by PanzerIV
is your convergence the same?
Amazing, i set it from 350 to 325 and it's worlds different. :aok
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try an even shorter convergence, say...275-300...and see what difference that might make.
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Like said above.
Guns are close to the body, so they form a more solid hit pattern on your target.
The f6f can turn better, and in a turn fight, that often places you "behind/above" your target, making the rounds do max damage.
"Thats why vulching is so painful, hit a plane from above and they all almost always brake apart."
If i recall, dont most planes have more protection to the rear and underside of them? while the fronts and tops are fairly unarmored and have thiner skin? "to save weight as much as possible, and balance the airframe better?"
maby thats just ground attack planes, just wounderin'.
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Fine, ill take the easy way out. "its all in your head.":lol
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Working from plan views of both aircraft and scaling against the wingspan, I reckon the guns are about 9 inches further out on the F6F than the P-51D. So in theory the F6F should hit a little worse, except at convergance.
Perhaps there is a dispersion factor built into the gunnery model. Maybe the F6F's wings flexed less under load or it was a more stable gun platform and this is allowed for.
I find it hard to bring down planes from behind, but have no problem with deflection shots. That's one of the reasons I fly the F6F, you can move the seat up a long way and get a good field of view below the gunsight pipper for deflection shooting. The fifties are accurate out to long ranges and with convergance set to 450 yards can pick off a roper at 700 yards no problem.
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Originally posted by Greebo
I find it hard to bring down planes from behind, but have no problem with deflection shots. That's one of the reasons I fly the F6F, you can move the seat up a long way and get a good field of view below the gunsight pipper for deflection shooting.
Same reason i love the F6F. I haven't been taking those shots in a 51, I tried a couple times and might as well done it blind folded.