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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: evenhaim on September 05, 2007, 09:14:32 AM
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we had a good time duke oldman dead, and really enjoyed fighting maha(i think i know who you are)lol all in all good time excpet for(fill in this blank):D
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Originally posted by evenhaim
we had a good time duke oldman dead, and really enjoyed fighting maha(i think i know who you are)lol all in all good time excpet for(fill in this blank):D
Look, I know I die a lot but I think you misspelled my name :D
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Originally posted by dedalos
Look, I know I die a lot but I think you misspelled my name :D
He wasn't talking about you. He was saying that Duke and Oldman were dead. That was certainly true.
Geez, kids today, they think it's all about them.
- oldman
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Originally posted by Oldman731
He wasn't talking about you. He was saying that Duke and Oldman were dead. That was certainly true.
Geez, kids today, they think it's all about them.
- oldman
My bad. I thought that was assumed :rofl
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Originally posted by evenhaim
good time excpet for(freezeman's crying ):D
:rofl You said to fill in the blank.
But seriously, it's good that you fly in the AvA, you like to fight and that's good, but you need a little education.
The AvA is a fighting arena not a dueling arena.
1st sortie, friendly in 1v1 asks for help, I help, kill evenfreeze, cries "Thanks for ruining my fight"
Lessons:
(1) Friendly asks for help, friendly gets help.
(2) Only an uninvited friendly deserves a "you ruined my fight".
(3) It is the invited enemys job to "ruin your fight".
Next friendly drags freezhaim into friendly territory, flies underneath 4 friendlies, 2 engage and kill him, cries "Gang", I said 2 not gang, you said WaaThereWere4, 4 there 2 engaged.
Lessons
(1) 2 not gang.
(2) fly into pack w/ zero alt - bad.
(3) Only 2 engage, count yourself lucky, say thank you.
The whining was irritating, it was as if you expected every encounter to be a 1 on 1 dueling type encounter. The AvA is a fighting arena not a dueling arena. Lesson over. :aok
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Originally posted by KONG1
:rofl You said to fill in the blank.
But seriously, it's good that you fly in the AvA, you like to fight and that's good, but you need a little education.
The AvA is a fighting arena not a dueling arena.
1st sortie, friendly in 1v1 asks for help, I help, kill evenfreeze, cries "Thanks for ruining my fight"
Lessons:
(1) Friendly asks for help, friendly gets help.
(2) Only an uninvited friendly deserves a "you ruined my fight".
(3) It is the invited enemys job to "ruin your fight".
Next friendly drags freezhaim into friendly territory, flies underneath 4 friendlies, 2 engage and kill him, cries "Gang", I said 2 not gang, you said WaaThereWere4, 4 there 2 engaged.
Lessons
(1) 2 not gang.
(2) fly into pack w/ zero alt - bad.
(3) Only 2 engage, count yourself lucky, say thank you.
The whining was irritating, it was as if you expected every encounter to be a 1 on 1 dueling type encounter. The AvA is a fighting arena not a dueling arena. Lesson over. :aok
To tell you the truth, I am glad you made this post. It is always OK when I get picked but if I fly like 2K close to a fight people like Simarril get pissed and leave the arena. It is also OK for Freez to repeatedly cherry pick with his friend Skat even after he asks me if I have enough fuel for one more fight, but when it happens to them its a different story.
So, I am also done with this respect the 1 vs 1 crap. No one else does or they do when it is convenient for them.
Is the JG54 hiring?:rofl
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hey kong im sure you know that what you said was overly elaborated and done and tired on most of the ava folks who see this jg54 team gang shpeel every time, i know many guys in ava that dont enjoy going into the ava to get ganged and or hoed or cherryed you guys can do that in the ma.
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Originally posted by dedalos
To tell you the truth, I am glad you made this post. It is always OK when I get picked but if I fly like 2K close to a fight people like Simarril get pissed and leave the arena. It is also OK for Freez to repeatedly cherry pick with his friend Skat even after he asks me if I have enough fuel for one more fight, but when it happens to them its a different story.
So, I am also done with this respect the 1 vs 1 crap. No one else does or they do when it is convenient for them.
Is the JG54 hiring?:rofl
wow thats not what you were saying last night:rolleyes:
and btw you cant relate main arena stuff that happend all of once to the ava thats like comparing DA to Ma....
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From the little time I spend there the AVA isnt any different then the CT was. Small fish in a smaller pond more often then not...but there is always hope I guess:)
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I am astonished at the animosity about this. The CT (which I was used to, from its inception to its end) was never the perfect place and the AvA is no different. I love the one on one but truthfully that can only be expected when there are only 3 people in a given area. Once 4 or more show up it is a time for wingmen (or women). Expecting a 1 on 1 at that point is silly. You may get it but you should not expect it or get upset when that doesnt happen.
When vulching and things like that begin to happen, senior AvA people should mention that the fight should move. When a person is massively outnumbered (except for maha) they should just stop upping for a bit until the other side realizes that is not kosher or fun.
There is no reason to get bent out of shape.
I remember in the hey day of the VF-27 we would have squad nights in the CT and would often have to send half of the squad to the opposing side due to number issues. The other option was to begin escorted bomber ops. That is always great fun. We would even tell the other side what we were planning and let them try to intercept us.
None of this included getting bent out of shape (well except for slash, but everyone expected that!).
I think the real advantage of AvA is that you can expect a certain level of maturity and good old manners from most people whereas in the MA you cannot expect anything but pissing contests and rampant muting. Neither of which was common in the CT unless Shane was around.
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there were 3 JG54 guys on for a little over one hour. when I was on the sides were 5v5. most of the fights started as 5v5. with the exception of one sortie as a bomber I never left the Ki61 arguably the least capable ride in there. not a single
I sent was returned and all I saw was 200 whines from the allieds side. I didn't respond but in two or three days I'll have my fill of the 200 guff and start responding, that will give you guys double whinage one for getting beaten in the game and the other for being beaten on the text buffer.
you were outflown. most of the other players on your team were outflown. that is really all there was to it.
practice more perhaps you'll improve in time.
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Originally posted by storch
there were 3 JG54 guys on for a little over one hour. when I was on the sides were 5v5. most of the fights started as 5v5. with the exception of one sortie as a bomber I never left the Ki61 arguably the least capable ride in there. not a single I sent was returned and all I saw was 200 whines from the allieds side. I didn't respond but in two or three days I'll have my fill of the 200 guff and start responding, that will give you guys double whinage one for getting beaten in the game and the other for being beaten on the text buffer.
you were outflown. most of the other players on your team were outflown. that is really all there was to it.
practice more perhaps you'll improve in time.
if this comment was directed at me in no way was i outflown and id gladly DA you in most any a/c to prove so, if not then disregard this post.
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I'll DA you anyway the DA is a great place to practice.
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thank you for your concern but there is no need for me to practice at this time, sad as it is your a trolling for a reaction as always and you will not recieve one:)
and i will gladly da you please pm me the days your avialable and times and i will cross check mine and find a time, and please as hard as it may be for you, try to stay civil.
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lol this from the guy who was non stop ranting on 200? give me a break.
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very well written..A+
Originally posted by ergRTC
I am astonished at the animosity about this. The CT (which I was used to, from its inception to its end) was never the perfect place and the AvA is no different. I love the one on one but truthfully that can only be expected when there are only 3 people in a given area. Once 4 or more show up it is a time for wingmen (or women). Expecting a 1 on 1 at that point is silly. You may get it but you should not expect it or get upset when that doesnt happen.
When vulching and things like that begin to happen, senior AvA people should mention that the fight should move. When a person is massively outnumbered (except for maha) they should just stop upping for a bit until the other side realizes that is not kosher or fun.
There is no reason to get bent out of shape.
I remember in the hey day of the VF-27 we would have squad nights in the CT and would often have to send half of the squad to the opposing side due to number issues. The other option was to begin escorted bomber ops. That is always great fun. We would even tell the other side what we were planning and let them try to intercept us.
None of this included getting bent out of shape (well except for slash, but everyone expected that!).
I think the real advantage of AvA is that you can expect a certain level of maturity and good old manners from most people whereas in the MA you cannot expect anything but pissing contests and rampant muting. Neither of which was common in the CT unless Shane was around.
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Originally posted by storch
lol this from the guy who was non stop ranting on 200? give me a break.
you try and try but you shall not recieve btw i made all of 3-4 comments towards your group on 200 most all civil examples from film:
aww man storch bud, why?
aww kong why you go ruin that fight?
a comment was made to me then i said:
yep nice gang bang
king said: 2 is not a horde
freezman: yep but 4 is. and thas where it ended hardly a rant bud ;)
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Originally posted by humble
From the little time I spend there the AVA isnt any different then the CT was. Small fish in a smaller pond more often then not...but there is always hope I guess:)
Humble, we would be delighted if you would stay awhile and lend your experience to the arena.
- oldman
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Was in a bit over the weekend....
Anytime I see a few folks I'll stop on in...
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im sorry duke and oldman this thread is out of hand and is putting up a bad image of ava i tried to delete it but it was to late, so henceforth i will not be posting in this thread thanks to the trollers.
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Originally posted by evenhaim
hey kong im sure you know that what you said was overly elaborated and done and tired on most of the ava folks who see this jg54 team gang shpeel every time, i know many guys in ava that dont enjoy going into the ava to get ganged and or hoed or cherryed you guys can do that in the ma.
were these your typed words? did you somehow forget you typed them? now you are passing it off as I'm a troller? you are funny person, I will give you that. thanks for the chuckle.
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Originally posted by evenhaim
wow thats not what you were saying last night:rolleyes:
Kind of, I think. Didn't I say don't log off but lets get in hurries and Ho them all?
I can't do the cherry picking though. I promise I will try lol. Atlist when a IG54 is on the other side I will do my bets to. The problem is, the 3 or 4 times I tried to HO someone that day it turned out to be Maha :( . JG54 aces where in their ack or climbing.
Storch, when you guys showed up was when the fighting stopped. The "only" three of you coming in above every one else and jumping on one guy at the same time while he is fighting someone else is not considered "out flying". The funny thing is you want an for it? :rofl
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That's funny Dedalos. :rolleyes: I patiently waited for you and Duke to finish a fight and even dropped alt to merge with you co alt. No HO to preserve the rules of those who obviously rent the arena from Hitech.
It was a good fight, I thought. Well flown by you. However when I gained the advantage on your dead six and blew your wing off I was amazed that I never received a kill message in the buffer. Must be a glitch.
Good fight man.
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It warms the cockles of my heart and tears of joy are welling up in my old tired eyes. The nice nannies were killing the AvA but I feel a twitch life in the old cod. This thread is great, it has a little bit of everything.
You got the incoherent banal ramblings of a tardling completely unaware of his intellectual deficiencies.
You got Mr Humble once again popping in to inform us that his personality is more in tune with the dweebfest that is the MA.
You got the white dove of peace flying about as we wonder how lethal an olive branch can be and calculate the perkies for taking it out.
You got straw man arguments, gloves across the face, and some good old fashion smack talk.
You got some poor soul saying "why can't we all just get along" while we play a highly competitive game with no rules where we pretend to kill each other.
Yep, life is good, and all is right with the world....carry on.
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Kong are you familiar with the "Tragedy of the commons"?
Agreed upon coercion can lead to a far more enjoyable time. Most of the AvA people agree to live by a set of simple principles that could not possibly exist in the more populous arenas, part of which is not to get upset over trivial things, and not to try and make others upset. Sadly both sides in this conflict are violating some part of the above.
The fact that the game is violent is meaningless when discussing the behavior of players or their interaction.
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Originally posted by 1cajun
That's funny Dedalos. :rolleyes: I patiently waited for you and Duke to finish a fight and even dropped alt to merge with you co alt. No HO to preserve the rules of those who obviously rent the arena from Hitech.
It was a good fight, I thought. Well flown by you. However when I gained the advantage on your dead six and blew your wing off I was amazed that I never received a kill message in the buffer. Must be a glitch.
Good fight man.
:rofl :rofl :rofl And there I thought you let me go land :rofl I could not type to you because I was fighting to hold the plane up and land it at the base with no runway. The reason you did not get the kill is because I landed it. Had to go around the field a couple of times and a friendly scared away a GJ54 ace that could not resist a crippled plane :rofl
I send you several for the fight after I landed but got no response. Maybe you had logged by then. BTW, it was just a wing tip and when you broke off, the only reason you did not get a tail full of lead was that I thought you were letting me go :D Ki84s with speed will keep going with wingtip (left i think) missing. So do spits.
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:aok I didn't fill you full of lead while you were floundering in front of me because I was trying to keep in the gentlemanly confines of the arena. Great fight and good job landing it.
Oh, and Oldman, thanks for the welcome. You definitely seem to be the voice of reason in the arena.
This thread, as well as others are great when they stick to discussing the pros/cons and future/possibilities of the arena. However, there are always a few that immediately start denegrating others and thus hijack the discussion from it's productive path.
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Originally posted by 1cajun
:aok I didn't fill you full of lead while you were floundering in front of me because I was trying to keep in the gentlemanly confines of the arena. Great fight and good job landing it.
Well, next time do it. My wrist still hurts from holding rudder all the way back. I know what you mean about gentlemanly confines of the arena but don't get fooled. There are non. Some one did follow me trying to finish me off but got scared when he saw another plane upping and he did not want to get into a 1 vs 1 with him.
Most, importantly though, I WAS trying to kill you so dieing would have served me right :rofl Good fight btw
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Originally posted by KONG1
It warms the cockles of my heart and tears of joy are welling up in my old tired eyes. The nice nannies were killing the AvA but I feel a twitch life in the old cod. This thread is great, it has a little bit of everything.
You got the incoherent banal ramblings of a tardling completely unaware of his intellectual deficiencies.
You got Mr Humble once again popping in to inform us that his personality is more in tune with the dweebfest that is the MA.
You got the white dove of peace flying about as we wonder how lethal an olive branch can be and calculate the perkies for taking it out.
You got straw man arguments, gloves across the face, and some good old fashion smack talk.
You got some poor soul saying "why can't we all just get along" while we play a highly competitive game with no rules where we pretend to kill each other.
Yep, life is good, and all is right with the world....carry on.
LOL
I wouldnt call anyone else a dweeb:)...
what freeze described has been SOP for a certain subset of CT/AvA players for a long time. I find it hilarious that said group doesnt ever seem to fly the FSO where they could but there "skill" to the test in a controlled historical enviornment. Instead you hide behind the type of drivel you posted above.
Obviously there are a number of great sticks who fly in the AvA at least some of the time. And I have no doubt that even some of the "small fish" have a reasonable or even above average skill level. Its the mind set I find unappealing. I could care less if a "friendly" asks for help in an EVEN one on one in an AvA enviornment if you have low numbers. This does not equate to a dueling enviornment. We used to let folks up and clear the ack all the time in the CT. If the aggressor won then usually the next guy had alt & E...and so it went...if a second guy came in it went to a 2 on 2...as sides grew numbers mixed but if it got to more the 7 on 5 or so a guy switched...
What we had were good sustained fights. As the CT squads formed this changes and never went back. Anyone who uses the "I was asked" logic to jump a fair fight is a dweeb...and so is the guy who asked him.
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we did fly FSO. I personally found it to be as much fun as watching paint dry. I can see why you would like it though. you may want to develope the forthrightness to just call a spade a spade. a post like the one above exhibits your temerity in things. in the interim we do very well as a squad and despite the outright lies posted by dedalot and others in here you will find us at about 8k and usually in the hardest to play in planes. last night after FX repeated HO'd I got a little tired of his spitty/woobieness and upped a Gay6M. he quit being such a nuisance after that.
I'm getting tired of the 200 crap and may start responding in kind too. it's been two solid days of nothing but guff from you sore losers. my suggestion is buck up and leave 200 alone because I'll make you all cry again you weak and timid souls you. there is no need for that and notice that as usual it is not me or JG54 that starts. if the staff allows the you whiners to do it they better allow me to do it as well.
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Fair even fights in a balanced enviornment with real clear objectives for both sides....yup I do like it.
As for JG54 and the AvA....well you were a big part of the reason the CT died. And I hardly ever see anyone in the AvA...
Now I havent flown the AvA enough to comment accurately on how you or anyone else flys...but in the CT the only time you guys were at 8k was if everyone else was at 2k. Historically you flew with alt, E and numbers or you refused to engage...just that simple.
Has that changed, I dont know....
As for me, you never here me talk smack on 200. I'll respond to someone elses comments but I'll either salute a good fight (win or lose) or keep quite. If FX was "HOing" you then I'de guess is was 4 or 5 on one since in a 100+ fights I dont ever recall him doing that in an even fight (you guys have any experience with that?)...
Now if you can actually beat FX in an even fight then your getting better...but I'll wait to hear the other side of that story.
I think you summed up the real issue quite nicely however with your "we do very well as a squad" statement. It in fact sums up everything wrong with the CT/AvA IMO. It used to be a place you could get away from the "BS" of the MA....people would come to the CT looking for a great one on one or small scale BALANCED fights....then the CT "squads" showed up...
Like I said, small fish....smaller pond
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Although I do not agree with anything storch said I have to beg to differ with humble. I do not remember you from my old days in the CT but that does not mean anything. There were many squads in the CT including my own. We tended to work together and split the fight. If numbers were off, as I said above we would jump or do something that allowed a good fight (bomber missions). I do not know if it was the JG or some other group but I remember often butting heads with a LW squad and trying to plan our squad nights so they would happen at the same time.
I do remember some 'singles' being upset about the squads doing their thing, but I never remember it being a big issue or ruining anything. Instead we brought a scenario atmosphere to the place on tuesdays and sundays. I would love to see that again personally.
The only issue I have with any of this is the anger. Niether storch, freeze, or anybody should be complaining about anything. Complaining about HOs is a sign of having other issues. Sure it is nice to not HO but you should always expect it. If you do not have alt you are going to get jumped. You fly into 4 planes unassisted you are going to get ganged.
On the 3rd when I did that (zero vs a pile-o-spits) my last words before the fight began on 200 were "I am going to die..." I didnt say "OH PLEASE DONT GANG ME!". I knew full well what I was getting into, I drank the saki, put the bandanna around my head and flew into it.
Although I try to get people to NOT get angry and try to behave civilly, I understand that fights can be frustrating and you have to just slam that beer and bite your tongue but hey, we are all adults here. If you think some of these guys are bad you should have known some of the real ringers we used to get in the CT.
As for the death of the CT that was due to the big shift in the arenas and Dale's want to call the new project Combat Theatre. There was nothing about the CT itself that caused its demise.
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Originally posted by humble
Fair even fights in a balanced enviornment with real clear objectives for both sides....yup I do like it.
As for JG54 and the AvA....well you were a big part of the reason the CT died. And I hardly ever see anyone in the AvA...
Now I havent flown the AvA enough to comment accurately on how you or anyone else flys...but in the CT the only time you guys were at 8k was if everyone else was at 2k. Historically you flew with alt, E and numbers or you refused to engage...just that simple.
Has that changed, I dont know....
As for me, you never here me talk smack on 200. I'll respond to someone elses comments but I'll either salute a good fight (win or lose) or keep quite. If FX was "HOing" you then I'de guess is was 4 or 5 on one since in a 100+ fights I dont ever recall him doing that in an even fight (you guys have any experience with that?)...
Now if you can actually beat FX in an even fight then your getting better...but I'll wait to hear the other side of that story.
I think you summed up the real issue quite nicely however with your "we do very well as a squad" statement. It in fact sums up everything wrong with the CT/AvA IMO. It used to be a place you could get away from the "BS" of the MA....people would come to the CT looking for a great one on one or small scale BALANCED fights....then the CT "squads" showed up...
Like I said, small fish....smaller pond
so here you are pontificating from zero knowledge and with prejudice. how perfectly typical of you.
notice the following from the other posts.
1. I did not respond to any 200 guff but it does get tiring and at some point I might.
2. since I typed very little on 200 at all I didn't complain about his HO'n. I upped a zeke and killed him. they were not 4 v1 fights as there were a total of about ten players on and all in the air. the fights were balanced. he chose to HO in a spit repeatedly.
as to his reasons for doing so ask him next time you see him. I just put a stop to it and that was that.
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Originally posted by dedalos
To tell you the truth, I am glad you made this post. It is always OK when I get picked but if I fly like 2K close to a fight people like Simarril get pissed and leave the arena. ....
Dedalos --
Not sure how I earned enough animosity to get my name in on an AvA problem list, since I don't fly there that often...but since I've been accused of being pissed, I think you've gotten the wrong idea. The other night I logged in to fly a few fights. I upped a couple times, and tried to get a fight going, but each time I got jumped by 3-4 bad guys before I could even get something started. Went to 200 to point out side imbalance, and was told that since that's how everyone else was playing before, that's how it was going to be now. It wasn't any fun, so I left.
No hard feelings, not pissed off. I understand that earlier the tables were turned, and the guys doing the ganging from when I was there had been the seriously getting ganged before.I understand how frustrating that can be, so I can see the desire for revenge. No biggie on my end -- and never thought you were "the problem" at all. I remember once we got into a nice fight (you turnfighting the P-40 ) and several others jumped me, but that was their choice, not yours. If you were 2k away another time I got killed, then it had nothing to do with you at all, right?
Simple == it just wasnt fun for me to get ganged, and since I play to have fun, there wasnt any reason to hang around. So I logged. End of night, end of story as far as I'm concerned. Sorry it was a bigger deal for you, cause I never thought of you as a problem, that night or otherwise -- and any frustration I had was about the gangers, not you.
So, bud, a sincere sent your way. I look forward to the next time you school me.
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certian squad members like to fly together and fight together, regardless if it is the JG54, 880's, (<--spelling?), some new squad called the KILLERS, etc.......
some members of these same squads also like to fight in a more 1 on 1 type atmosphere if the numbers are kind of low.......
the biggest enjoyment I get is seeing players like KONG1, Tbarone, WildSaue (<--spelling ), fight regardless if it is 1 on 1 your 2 on 1 or 1 on 2.....and see how far they have advanced since the first time I saw them in the CT/AvsA.......am not picking the JG54 players specifically they just the 1st to come to mind.....their are quiet a few others besides some JG54 flyers..
but it is really enjoyablle to be fighting a plane and find the fight to become more than a mere 1 or 2 reverses, then you are the one ending up on the losing end and it is by a player that has put his/her time in and has learned the different aspects of BFM/ACM, has become more of a threat each and everyday.....
things like this through the years is some of what I find enjoyable in this here game........
The JG54 do work good together with wingman tactics, but over the past few years a lot of them have become quiet good at flying 1 vs 1's as well.......
some players are still under the impression they must have a 5,000 foot alt advantage every single time they come to the fight. This is non dependant on any certian squad........ I usually make a wise crack about "do you really need all that alt" or some such remark...but then most times let them dive down and overspeed their merge and use it aginst them......
Storch is like your VILLIAN of the AvsA :D
every "play" has to have a Villian or it would not be as enjoyable ......
still in all some people will always gang up , HO, cherrypick & run, vulch regardless of what arena you are playing in.....all anyone can do is ask them to try and refrain from these acts.......in a friendly way..fussing about it just adds fuel to the fire.......
now people like Oldman, Grits, soda72, Panzzer ( maybe even me & Dedalos & Storch perhaps ).are the older players who should lead by example.... we set the tone and environment for the newer players........what the new players see most and see others get away with is what you are gonna see become the AvsA......so it is up to the PEERS to set what standard of gameplay they wish to encounter ....if you set no example or set a bad example then you have noone to blame but yourself.......
Good Night all
~SALUTE~
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last night I logged on late due to work issues here at my shop and I didn't get home until after 2200.
logging at 2300 there were fifteen players on three were JG54. the squad was split between ackllieds and acksis.
I had some great fights last night sadly they were between myself and other JG54 members.
on a very positive note 200 banter was mostly pleasant with only minor whines offered by dedalot as he was smacked around considerably and whined sweetly about it. sadly there is only so much of a whipping anyone can take so he logged off shortly after I logged on. squad members reported that we now own enough dedalos pelts to carpet the JG54 ready room.
good job dedalot your whines are like music to my eyes and you are a great soprano.
see you tonight.
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You see it is the baiting I don't understand. Why keep pushing storch? Talking about pelts and all that.
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Why do you assume its a problem. Maybe Ded will read that, get a big grin on his face, think ok you sumbatch and come back with a little smack. Not every one is a tender little girl with no self assurance. Personally, smack doesn't bother me, if its good smack it makes me smile. Compliments OTH make me uncomfortable.
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Originally posted by humble
Fair even fights in a balanced enviornment with real clear objectives for both sides....yup I do like it.
As for JG54 and the AvA....well you were a big part of the reason the CT died. And I hardly ever see anyone in the AvA...
And you should see the chaos when these guys come in. You can be in there with 8 guys having good fights etc. Storch and crew show up and now you have no clue who is going to HO, who is going to gang, who is going to run in the ack, how many are going to hit you as your gear is going up etc. But hey, he is of 200 now so the JG54 is not really a problem. :rofl
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Originally posted by storch
squad members reported that we now own enough dedalos pelts to carpet the JG54 ready room.
good job dedalot your whines are like music to my eyes and you are a great soprano.
see you tonight.
:( and i thought you were my friend. My fillings are hurt now. Why do you have to be so hurtful? :cry :cry
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Originally posted by dedalos
:( and i thought you were my friend. My fillings are hurt now. Why do you have to be so hurtful? :cry :cry
I'm sorry ded, I'll pay for counselling.
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Originally posted by ergRTC
You see it is the baiting I don't understand. Why keep pushing storch? Talking about pelts and all that.
this begs the question of why does what I type to another player bother you? If you don't want to be at pointy end of my barbs then don't engage me.
let's call your post strike one shall we?
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Well, I guess it has to do with the arena. I don't care what your strategy in the air is just the juvenile attitude. When you are communicating with others, regardless of the medium, you should not behave like that. It is just bad manners and reflects poorly on all of us.
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Originally posted by ergRTC
Although I do not agree with anything storch said I have to beg to differ with humble. I do not remember you from my old days in the CT but that does not mean anything. There were many squads in the CT including my own. We tended to work together and split the fight. If numbers were off, as I said above we would jump or do something that allowed a good fight (bomber missions). I do not know if it was the JG or some other group but I remember often butting heads with a LW squad and trying to plan our squad nights so they would happen at the same time.
I do remember some 'singles' being upset about the squads doing their thing, but I never remember it being a big issue or ruining anything. Instead we brought a scenario atmosphere to the place on tuesdays and sundays. I would love to see that again personally.
The only issue I have with any of this is the anger. Niether storch, freeze, or anybody should be complaining about anything. Complaining about HOs is a sign of having other issues. Sure it is nice to not HO but you should always expect it. If you do not have alt you are going to get jumped. You fly into 4 planes unassisted you are going to get ganged.
On the 3rd when I did that (zero vs a pile-o-spits) my last words before the fight began on 200 were "I am going to die..." I didnt say "OH PLEASE DONT GANG ME!". I knew full well what I was getting into, I drank the saki, put the bandanna around my head and flew into it.
Although I try to get people to NOT get angry and try to behave civilly, I understand that fights can be frustrating and you have to just slam that beer and bite your tongue but hey, we are all adults here. If you think some of these guys are bad you should have known some of the real ringers we used to get in the CT.
As for the death of the CT that was due to the big shift in the arenas and Dale's want to call the new project Combat Theatre. There was nothing about the CT itself that caused its demise.
The demise of the CT had nothing to due with anything other then the CT itself. And yes the squads were largely to blame. They completely changed the nature of game play. The CY was primarily "lone wolfs" or "winging pairs" of fairly high quality. Basically it was where you went for a good fight...
Once the "squads" formed and viewed the CT as an alternate MA it went downhill. Now again thats my opinion...but I said way back then it was gonna die completely...and it did.
Back when the CT doing well it worked like the old AW FR arena did. The squads were important and gave it framework...but didnt exist on a regular basis. At that time the preemniant squad was probably the musketeers and you'd never see them togeather...in fact they got more joy out of killing each other then the rest of us. The "squads" only game out as squads when there was more then one up in force or overall numbers supported it. When they came out they went for each other..
I have never once witnessed that in the CT, in fact it was common to see the squads milkrunning on opposite sides of the map. Now from TC's comments (and others) it might be changing. I almost stopped in last night but only had time for 1 hop so I flew an a-20 in the MA...I need some serious jug work so if the AvA has any numbers at all i'll go there....
I know the 71st has tried before but i'll see if Bat Jensk and a few of the boys will run a "squad night" {we actually dont have em} in the AvA again...
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Originally posted by ergRTC
Well, I guess it has to do with the arena. I don't care what your strategy in the air is just the juvenile attitude. When you are communicating with others, regardless of the medium, you should not behave like that. It is just bad manners and reflects poorly on all of us.
strike two
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Originally posted by storch
I'm sorry ded, I'll pay for counselling.
No you are not. This is just another lie in your attempt to hurt my fillings :cry
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Originally posted by KONG1
Compliments OTH make me uncomfortable.
<> KONG
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Yeah all of the old VF-27 are spread out or gone. I came over from the AW FR to AH back in 2000/2001. I came over in the RTC but that quickly fell apart. Did we have cross country talk back then? I can't remember. Often that 'milk running' you describe was organized events at least on our side. We would set up a large bomb run and then hope to get intercepted. I thought it was great, but apparently others did not. I like the structure personally.
I look forward to more organized activities. Particularly in this upcoming scenario. Imagine a sky full of buffs and p47s and you in a 262. drool..... (and knowing full well there will be no 262 jumping you).
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Originally posted by dedalos
<> KONG
Bastage! :furious
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Originally posted by KONG1
Bastage! :furious
THERE!!!! Now you met my wrath too :rofl