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Title: Help!!!
Post by: redman555 on September 05, 2007, 08:31:14 PM
this is bigbobCH, got a qwick question, i got a report and im tryin to find out what the first plane was used in combat was?? any know?
Title: Re: Help!!!
Post by: Lusche on September 05, 2007, 08:49:28 PM
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Originally posted by redman555
this is bigbobCH, got a qwick question, i got a report and im tryin to find out what the first plane was used in combat was?? any know?



10-22-1911: (Italo-Turkish war)
An Italian "Etrich Taube" (designed by the Austrian Ingo Etrich) taking off from Tripoli for a recon mission attacked Turkish troops with 2kg bombs.

If you try to look up that plane: You can more often find it under "Rumpler Taube". That was the version build under licence by the Rumpler in Germany.
Title: Help!!!
Post by: JB73 on September 05, 2007, 09:34:35 PM
you'll never learn if you don't even try to study up on something yourself a bit ;)
Title: Help!!!
Post by: redman555 on September 05, 2007, 09:57:49 PM
lol, i looked on internet for over 4 hours and found notin thats y
Title: Help!!!
Post by: 1Boner on September 05, 2007, 09:59:49 PM
Didn't guys used to fire pistols at each other in planes?

I think that was before they started dropping bombs.

That would also be considered combat.

Wouldn't it?



Historicaly yours,

Boner
Title: Help!!!
Post by: Lusche on September 05, 2007, 10:05:21 PM
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Originally posted by 1Boner
Didn't guys used to fire pistols at each other in planes?

I think that was before they started dropping bombs.

 


Nope. Plane vs plane combat occured much later.
At that time only very few countries had even a handful planes in service at all, and there were no major wars between any of them prior to WWI.
Title: Help!!!
Post by: redman555 on September 05, 2007, 10:05:24 PM
yea... but i ment real combat not pistols, like bombs machine guns so on, ty for the answer by the way
Title: Help!!!
Post by: Lusche on September 05, 2007, 10:09:50 PM
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Originally posted by redman555
yea... but i ment real combat not pistols, like bombs machine guns so on, ty for the answer by the way



err.. you didnt even read my first answer???

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Originally posted by Lusche
(...) attacked Turkish troops with 2kg bombs.
Title: Help!!!
Post by: redman555 on September 05, 2007, 10:11:43 PM
wat u mean?
Title: Help!!!
Post by: Lusche on September 05, 2007, 10:13:18 PM
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Originally posted by redman555
wat u mean?


See above.
Title: Help!!!
Post by: 1Boner on September 05, 2007, 10:16:37 PM
I hate it when you,re right.

You know that don,'t you?

But I,m not sure how much I would trust Wikpedia.

I answered off the cuff, figuring the recon guys had to defend themselves from other recon guys.

And I thought that planes were used as recon before they were used as weapons.

Planes were'nt thought of as weapons until much later.

That was my train of thought.



Probably wrong again,

Boner
Title: Help!!!
Post by: Lusche on September 05, 2007, 10:26:47 PM
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Originally posted by 1Boner
I hate it when you,re right.

You know that don,'t you?

But I,m not sure how much I would trust Wikpedia.

I answered off the cuff, figuring the recon guys had to defend themselves from other recon guys.

And I thought that planes were used as recon before they were used as weapons.

Planes were'nt thought of as weapons until much later.

That was my train of thought.



Probably wrong again,

Boner


You are basically on the right track.

The first military use of planes was recon. Not only because there were not any tactics ot strategy for aerial warfare devised, but also because of the severe technical limitations of pre-WWI airplanes.
Remember, the first channel crossing was made only in 1909, in a plane with merely 26HP...

The low numbers of airplanes in use and the absence of any wars between the major powers using them simply prevented any air combat. The first military use of planes was the Italo-Turkish war i posted about, followed by the Balkan war of 1912.
(BTW, the concept dropping bombs from the air was nothing new at that time, there have been  baloons and airships before planes.)

Only with the beginning of WWI this problem surfaced, the wish for denying enemy recon sorties lead to armed planes - first handguns, then rifles and a whole assortment of bizarre ideas, until the machinegun armament was universally accepted.
Title: Help!!!
Post by: 1Boner on September 05, 2007, 10:36:52 PM
I sit corrected!

Thanks for the info.

Always a pleasure talking to ya!




Your Buddy,

Boner
Title: Help!!!
Post by: ROC on September 05, 2007, 10:42:59 PM
Atlantis was the first society to use Flight and Air to Air combat.  


Really, look it up!



What are you looking at me like that for? :huh
Title: Help!!!
Post by: RTR on September 05, 2007, 11:50:09 PM
Is this report going to be in the English language, or what you are using here?

:D

RTR
Title: Help!!!
Post by: Vudak on September 05, 2007, 11:52:55 PM
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Originally posted by RTR
Is this report going to be in the English language, or what you are using here?

:D

RTR


:lol

Man, editing college newspapers is the most depressing job in the world.

:(
Title: Help!!!
Post by: sgt203 on September 06, 2007, 04:32:54 AM
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Originally posted by RTR
Is this report going to be in the English language, or what you are using here?

:D

RTR


:aok

:lol :lol
Title: Help!!!
Post by: Ghosth on September 06, 2007, 07:17:20 AM
Roc I'm pretty sure Greatlandia kicked Atlantis's tail, sunk their island and destroyed all material of warfare.

Or was it all just last nights dream, I dunno anymore.