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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: AAolds on September 06, 2007, 02:27:58 AM
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There is no point in the Knights having their own country--they're less effective than France. They constantly team up with the Bishops anyways--by disbanding their side they can join the Bishops and get it over with. The Knights are usually the cause for the rest of us having to put up with ENY due to their constant low numbers--which stems from an overall lack of teamwork.
There are some great squads and individals on the Knights, but sadly they are outnumbered by knuckleheads and malcontents who cant work together if their collective lives depended on it.
As an example, tonight on the TT map, the knits were once again backed into the corner, this time by the Bish but who did the knit-wits team up with....the Bishops.....again :rofl
A benefit of disbanding the knits, we could use AvA maps in the MA and have true head to head battles where one side has to completely crush the other, rather than this having to capture 40% of each sides bases. Heck, by doing this uncapturable bases could be done away with too as well as ENY.
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they're less effective than France
....But most probably more effective than northern Illinois. :D
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Originally posted by manurin
....But most probably more effective than northern Illinois. :D [/B]
I'd put my money on Chicago screwing up most anyone and anything who messed with it.
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Originally posted by AAolds
The Knights are usually the cause for the rest of us having to put up with ENY due to their constant low numbers--which stems from an overall lack of teamwork.
No. You are the cause for you having to put up with ENY.
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Originally posted by Vudak
No. You are the cause for you having to put up with ENY.
:rolleyes:
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IN my opinion nothing should be should be changed!
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I fight the red dots and dont care and often dont notice if its rooks or bish. Stats tells me that i fight bish and rooks evenly.
IMO both rook and bish gang up on me, and they seem to know that i have a busted hand and is an easy target. :noid
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Originally posted by AAolds
I'd put my money on Chicago screwing up most anyone and anything who messed with it.
LOL, typical FIB.
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Originally posted by AAolds
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I want to be on the side with numbers AND fly low eny AC. ENY SUCKS WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAA
Any else read it this way?
Bronk
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Originally posted by Geary420
LOL, typical FIB.
:rofl :aok
The fibs put a hole in their river...doh:lol
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<---owns AA's.
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LOL@AAolds. THis from a guy that rants about the evils of the "dweeb lgay7" even though he regularly flies the plane. I thought all the squeakers had started school by now.
ack-ack
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Ive noticed the Bishes probably work together the best. I dont know how we fought our way back from the brink yesterday but when I got home from work, and saw the map, I was amazed.
Ive noticed the Knights dont defend their strats like they used to.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Ive noticed the Bishes probably work together the best.
Debatable.
I dont know how we fought our way back from the brink yesterday
Your side has considerably more suiciders is why.
but when I got home from work, and saw the map, I was amazed.
Dantoo is your man shame about the tactics.
Ive noticed the Knights dont defend their strats like they used to.
Good :D
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Originally posted by manurin
they're less effective than France
....But most probably more effective than northern Illinois. :D
ummm you may want to stay in the cradle. I guess you have never been to chicago. six girls from cicero will conquer all of france in one PMS episode.
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I don't think we need to disband any country. I like to switch sides and play for the Knights sometimes. They're a pretty fun bunch IMO. I we're going to disband anything disband the free La-7's.:)
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We could raffle off the Knights at a Bake Sale and give the money to Fred Thompson. I'll bring the cookies :rofl
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Originally posted by storch
six girls from cicero will conquer all of france in one PMS episode.
And that folks, is the unvarnished truth.
(dated a girl from Chicago in college)
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Actually you must have been in Blue. Cause ENY was crazy in Orange for the knights. Just couldnt get in to Blue.
Its the same all over.
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Originally posted by Latrobe
I we're going to disband anything disband the free La-7's.:)
I agree...
If you aren't defending against a raid or a capped base an LA 7 should be an embarrassment to fly and land kills in one. I notice quite a few guys who are pretty good sticks, that are always milking it up in Lgay's. I consider those guys bigger dweebs than the stupid noobs whom do nothing but HO in them.
I fly them from time to time, but only in defense of a base being attacked.
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Originally posted by AAolds
I'd put my money on Chicago screwing up most anyone and anything who messed with it.
Chicago is pretty screwed up to begin with especially with that crook Blagojevich in office.
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I don't know about disbanding any country, but I do think it would be more fun with just two. I think it would keep make the game more like a real war.
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I have a better idea, start a new country.
They will be called the Whining Sqeakers, that way people who complain about what other people fly, how they play, and so on will be able to team up with other unhappy babies. Oh they are teaming up on me, it's no fair when he is in a LA-7 WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAA.
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Originally posted by Latrobe
I we're going to disband anything disband the free La-7's.:) [/B]
Nah----leave the La-7 the way it is.
Guys need something to defend against the pickers in the ever present C-hogs and Tempests.
Ducking,
Boner
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Originally posted by storch
ummm you may want to stay in the cradle. I guess you have never been to chicago. six girls from cicero will conquer all of france in one PMS episode.
Personally I fear a single 7 year old girl scout.
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Originally posted by Geary420
LOL, typical FIB.
That comment sounds like a typical FWAH...
I smell CHEESE!
68ROX
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If I had a dime for EVERY time the knights...OUTNUMBERED...and being gangbanged by Rook & Bishops....
I'd be able to provide a free AH subscription to every man, woman, & child in Arkansas...AFTER I bought myself a mountaintop home overlooking Lake Ouichita...Olympic sized pool....a brand new Hummer...and a year long cruise around the freekin' PLANET.
I've said it before...
If the "I always switch to the side with the LOWEST numbers" (in LW Arenas) crowd practiced what they preached...they would always fly Knight.
But they DON'T.
It's the gang-up-on-the-weak-kid mentality.
Personally, I will ALWAYS be a knight. You gang-bangers miss out on a TON of kills due to all the competition. (You have 15 of you flying around 4 knights...how many scalps do you THINK you are gonna land??)
BTW: This entire thread didn't possibly have anything to do with the fact that VansCrew was landing 5-7 AA's SCALPS at a time last night, did it??
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
68ROX
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Originally posted by storch
ummm you may want to stay in the cradle. I guess you have never been to chicago. six girls from cicero will conquer all of france in one PMS episode.
No fair Storch. Thats like using WMDs :furious
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Originally posted by crockett
If you aren't defending against a raid or a capped base an LA 7 should be an embarrassment to fly and land kills in one. I notice quite a few guys who are pretty good sticks, that are always milking it up in Lgay's. I consider those guys bigger dweebs than the stupid noobs whom do nothing but HO in them.
I fly them :D
They're fun on those nights where you literally have to force a fight.
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Originally posted by crockett
If you aren't defending against a raid or a capped base an LA 7 should be an embarrassment to fly and land kills in one. I notice quite a few guys who are pretty good sticks, that are always milking it up in Lgay's. I consider those guys bigger dweebs than the stupid noobs whom do nothing but HO in them.
Whining like this should be embarrassing more so than using a plane that is available to everybody. The LA-7 is not instant death for anybody, people give way to much credit to the plane. Should using the Spit 16, the F4U-4, the Niki, the Tempast, or any of the other more capable planes embarrassing. You have your choice as does everybody else so don't worry about somebody elses preference, fly something you can fight in and if you really don't like fighting against the LA-7 fight in the MW arena.
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Originally posted by dedalos
No fair Storch. Thats like using WMDs :furious
you ain't kidding
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Originally posted by Nimrod45
Should using the Spit 16, the F4U-4, the Niki, the Tempast, or any of the other more capable planes embarrassing.
Yes, I'd be embarrassed to fly any of those planes as well. They are all planes for guys trying to milk run the stats and land lots of kills, as they say ez mode flying.
I say get some skill land 5 or 6 kills in a P47,a 110 or a Yak or any of the other less capable planes.. Then yea get a little respect and some props. Any of the planes you listed when flown by a good stick, is nothing more than milk running for kills. Out of any of them I'll only fly an LA and that's only for base defense, even then I feel dweeby inside.
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Originally posted by manurin
they're less effective than France
....But most probably more effective than northern Illinois. :D
AND, defininately more effective than the Philadelphia Eagles.
Fly Eagles Fly.
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Lessee,
We could disband the Bishop country and make them all knights. Yeah, that's it. Why have bish when you could be a knit? Or how about we disband the Rooks and make them all knits? Yeah, cool. Not a bad idea, right? Get my drift?
Ref Laffies, if you see lots of them up get in one yerself and go teach em how to fly them. Wait, do You know how to fly one? Hmmmm, why is this all so confusing? Chogs, tempies....do the same whats the big deal? I think I'm beginning to understand that folks hate those planes that shoot them down. Get in one and find out why iso asking for them to be banned, perked or anything else. No one has ever told you not to fly any plane available. Opps, well maybe with eny they have. That being said, fly what you want. Do what you can in what you fly and have fun doing it. Listening to other people ranting about it only means you must be doing a good job of shooting them down. :)
Ren
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Why don't we disband the Rooks? Or atleast limit them to 25k alt?
Or disband the the Bish or eliminate the hoard?
Or how about we just get rid of the chess pieces and go back to A B C?
Or we can just name the teams like everyone thinks they should be: Dweebs, Gangers, Astronauts
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Originally posted by AAolds
There is no point in the Knights having their own country--they're less effective than France. They constantly team up with the Bishops anyways--by disbanding their side they can join the Bishops and get it over with. The Knights are usually the cause for the rest of us having to put up with ENY due to their constant low numbers--which stems from an overall lack of teamwork.
There are some great squads and individals on the Knights, but sadly they are outnumbered by knuckleheads and malcontents who cant work together if their collective lives depended on it.
As an example, tonight on the TT map, the knits were once again backed into the corner, this time by the Bish but who did the knit-wits team up with....the Bishops.....again :rofl
A benefit of disbanding the knits, we could use AvA maps in the MA and have true head to head battles where one side has to completely crush the other, rather than this having to capture 40% of each sides bases. Heck, by doing this uncapturable bases could be done away with too as well as ENY.
IN-teresting, i would like to see this trialed
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This is just to funny :rofl
I remember back about 2 or 3 years ago when i played that these same whining posts were all over the boards.
the sides change at verious times, sometimes Rooks rule with numbers, other times Knights and even Bishops at times.
to end this they need to stop the ability to change sides for 30 days at a time.
No one wants to appear to be on losing side or be out numbered.
But it raises skill levels to be sure.
Just give it a bit of time then the rookies will be complaining about lack of numbers.
if one side always has dominant numbers then the wise thing to do is Ally up against it.:aok
Besides I always thought games were played for fun,
When it quits being fun maybe it's time for you to move to something else for awhile eh?
anyway this thread is same as always has been, this is nothing new
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Posted by Crockett.
Yes, I'd be embarrassed to fly any of those planes as well. They are all planes for guys trying to milk run the stats and land lots of kills, as they say ez mode flying.
I say get some skill land 5 or 6 kills in a P47,a 110 or a Yak or any of the other less capable planes.. Then yea get a little respect and some props. Any of the planes you listed when flown by a good stick, is nothing more than milk running for kills. Out of any of them I'll only fly an LA and that's only for base defense, even then I feel dweeby inside.
Yep landing 5 or six kills zooming and booming in a P-47 with 8 .50cal guns and an armory full of ammo is real impressive, heck you don't even have to pray when you spray. Pot shot here pot shot there, couple lucky shots and you got your kills.
The difference between a Yak and a LA-7, very little, just there armament, same number of guns different size, the difference between those two boils down to preference. Yak= Extremely capable plane. If you choose to fly a less capable plane suck your lower lip back in when you get shot down. Of course if the fight is between a 47 and a LA-7 all things being equal when you start the LA has a better chance, but it isn't unfair. If you like the P-40B should you cry about people using P-47s, no you should suck it up a deal with your decision.
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Originally posted by Nimrod45
The difference between a Yak and a LA-7, very little, just there armament, same number of guns different size, the difference between those two boils down to preference. Yak= Extremely capable plane. If you choose to fly a less capable plane suck your lower lip back in when you get shot down. Of course if the fight is between a 47 and a LA-7 all things being equal when you start the LA has a better chance, but it isn't unfair. If you like the P-40B should you cry about people using P-47s, no you should suck it up a deal with your decision.
LALA seat must be comfier for mr.shade than that of the YAK or he wouldn't have such a biased summary.
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Originally posted by Sadist
to end this they need to stop the ability to change sides for 30 days at a time.
No one wants to appear to be on losing side or be out numbered.
Actually, you do away with the premis of moving country to country to even sides.
Also, many folks don't care at all about appearing to be on losing side. Especcially when they change to that side and don't lose.
Many people move to the short bus, errr short sided country to get more fights. Ergo, less people on your side = more targets coming at you. It's almost like saying, why would anyone want to be a bishop? They only hit a field with a minumum of 2x the number of oppsing players at that field. While they may figure there's strength in numbers, which means they don't have to learn much about flying and why you see such a large number of HOr's coming from them, the opposing country see lots of poor pilots coming at them and usually kill 3+ to each time they themselves die. And for the most part the only reason they died was they were willng to mix it up against large odds. You can say this about almost any country. However, the bish are past masters at ganging. The one positive note is ganging usually results in more uppers from both sides which leads to a huge furball. Those can be lotsa fun!!! :)
This is not a comdemnation of a country more so than a lack of flying skills which leads folks to flock together as there is safety in numbers. It's very rare to find a guy with less than a year of flying under his belt who will do a 1v1 with you. If he even gets a hint that he might die he's off to the races. Or, the fights over in a few seconds and he just learaned that's a bad idea...back to the flock. Ya know, the flocking together is kinda like a school of fish...yeah, FISH! The hunter makes a pass and gets one fish while the rest give a sigh of relief until the next pass. I guess they think the hunter will get someone else. You also see it when 10 bish end up on the six of some poor dude who was in a good fight, low. Imagine 10 guys, falling over themselves for that one itty, bitty kill. :lol
Back to Laffies! No matter what country you are in, hit alt-i and take a look at all those guys around you and see what they are flying. You'll be amazed at the number of laffie, spit16, tempie guys in the air around you. :)
Ren
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Originally posted by crockett
I say get some skill land 5 or 6 kills in a P47,a 110 or a Yak or any of the other less capable planes.. Then yea get a little respect and some props. Any of the planes you listed when flown by a good stick, is nothing more than milk running for kills. Out of any of them I'll only fly an LA and that's only for base defense, even then I feel dweeby inside.
I'll tell ya what... I respect a guy who tries. I don't care in the slightest sense what plane he's trying in.
If I run into a guy who's really trying in an La7, it's a good, fun fight. If I run into a guy who's not trying in an La7, it's a boring waste of my time.
The same applies to every single plane in the set.
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Originally posted by crockett
Yes, I'd be embarrassed to fly any of those planes as well. They are all planes for guys trying to milk run the stats and land lots of kills, as they say ez mode flying.
I say get some skill land 5 or 6 kills in a P47,a 110 or a Yak or any of the other less capable planes.. Then yea get a little respect and some props. Any of the planes you listed when flown by a good stick, is nothing more than milk running for kills. Out of any of them I'll only fly an LA and that's only for base defense, even then I feel dweeby inside.
You should be embarrassed that you are embarrassed to fly one of those planes. You probably are, aren't you? You know that you would not last any longer in those but then the excuse would be gone.
So, what do I do? I get in a P40 and get BnZed for days it seems by 190s and 51s until someone connects on a HO shot. I get in a lala so I can force people to fight and I am a dweeb. Could you please select the right plane for me sir and let me know what I should be flying so I could get your respect?
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Posted by Laurie
LALA seat must be comfier for mr.shade than that of the YAK or he wouldn't have such a biased summary.
WHAT ARE YOU GETTING AT
Posted by Dedalos.
You should be embarrassed that you are embarrassed to fly one of those planes. You probably are, aren't you? You know that you would not last any longer in those but then the excuse would be gone.
So, what do I do? I get in a P40 and get BnZed for days it seems by 190s and 51s until someone connects on a HO shot. I get in a lala so I can force people to fight and I am a dweeb. Could you please select the right plane for me sir and let me know what I should be flying so I could get your respect?
AMEN.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
LOL@AAolds. THis from a guy that rants about the evils of the "dweeb lgay7" even though he regularly flies the plane. I thought all the squeakers had started school by now.
ack-ack
:rofl :rofl :rofl
i think Ack-Ack made AAold cry has not posted a thing after what you and i said.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by Nimrod45
Posted by Crockett.
Yes, I'd be embarrassed to fly any of those planes as well. They are all planes for guys trying to milk run the stats and land lots of kills, as they say ez mode flying.
I say get some skill land 5 or 6 kills in a P47,a 110 or a Yak or any of the other less capable planes.. Then yea get a little respect and some props. Any of the planes you listed when flown by a good stick, is nothing more than milk running for kills. Out of any of them I'll only fly an LA and that's only for base defense, even then I feel dweeby inside.
Yep landing 5 or six kills zooming and booming in a P-47 with 8 .50cal guns and an armory full of ammo is real impressive, heck you don't even have to pray when you spray. Pot shot here pot shot there, couple lucky shots and you got your kills.
The difference between a Yak and a LA-7, very little, just there armament, same number of guns different size, the difference between those two boils down to preference. Yak= Extremely capable plane. If you choose to fly a less capable plane suck your lower lip back in when you get shot down. Of course if the fight is between a 47 and a LA-7 all things being equal when you start the LA has a better chance, but it isn't unfair. If you like the P-40B should you cry about people using P-47s, no you should suck it up a deal with your decision.
Yak is a extremely capable plane, you are right, but it's very limited on ammo. So it does take much more skill to land 5 or 6 kills in a yak vs a spit 16 or a LA7, because you have to have to be a good aim and conserve your ammo.
Oh and I'm not crying about anything. I'm just stating a fact that good sticks that fly those planes are flying in EZ mode and they know it. All I'm saying is once you are good enough, take the training wheels off..
Personally I tend to pick a different plane each tour to learn the only plane I've picked with a ENY less than 20 so far was the 110C-4b. Last month I picked that plane and pulled off almost 600 kills in it. I died a lot but I also managed to keep a 1.7 kill/death ratio, which I think it pretty damn good for that plane.
I did some high alt flying but I also mixed it up in furballs probably a majorty of the time. In fact the top two planes I killed while flying the 110 were the Nikki and the LA7. Should a 110C-4b beat a LA7 or a Nikki in most cases? Probably not, but that's mainly because so many noobs fly those planes.
Hell I don't even consider my self that good of a stick, I figure I'm about average. However I don't dweeb around in a easy ride, just so I can land a bunch of kills. I fly for a challenge not high fives because I can land 10 kills in a spit16.
For a vet to fly those planes on a regular basis, it's like playing playing Pac Man on Novice. So that's all I'm saying if you are a noob sure fly the easy rides, but if you are a good stick, take a challenge and fly something that's a bit harder to fly. Don't be such a dweeb and quit relying on training wheels.
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Originally posted by dedalos
You should be embarrassed that you are embarrassed to fly one of those planes. You probably are, aren't you? You know that you would not last any longer in those but then the excuse would be gone.
So, what do I do? I get in a P40 and get BnZed for days it seems by 190s and 51s until someone connects on a HO shot. I get in a lala so I can force people to fight and I am a dweeb. Could you please select the right plane for me sir and let me know what I should be flying so I could get your respect?
You know as well as I do that guys in LA's aren't forcing anyone to fight. This is the 5 steps of the typical LA7 fight.
1) LA tries for HO on first pass
2) LA turns once or twice keeps trying to get a HO shot.
3) Other plane gets on LA's six, La runs away to mommy or base ack which ever is closer.
4) Other plane gives up chasing LA dweeb and finds a real fight.
5) LA dweeb sudenly grows a pair turns around and tries to pick the guy he previously ran away from.
LOL flying a LA to force a fight that's some funny stuff.
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Originally posted by crockett
You know as well as I do that guys in LA's aren't forcing anyone to fight. This is the 5 steps of the typical LA7 fight.
1) LA tries for HO on first pass
2) LA turns once or twice keeps trying to get a HO shot.
3) Other plane gets on LA's six, La runs away to mommy or base ack which ever is closer.
4) Other plane gives up chasing LA dweeb and finds a real fight.
5) LA dweeb sudenly grows a pair turns around and tries to pick the guy he previously ran away from.
LOL flying a LA to force a fight that's some funny stuff.
Thats funny, looks like you are describing 110s, 51s, typhis, hurries, nikis, 190s, 190s, 190s, tempests, even 0s will do that in the MA
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Originally posted by crockett
For a vet to fly those planes on a regular basis, it's like playing playing Pac Man on Novice. So that's all I'm saying if you are a noob sure fly the easy rides, but if you are a good stick, take a challenge and fly something that's a bit harder to fly. Don't be such a dweeb and quit relying on training wheels.
Alternatively, maybe people fly what's fun for them regardless of skill level.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Alternatively, maybe people fly what's fun for them regardless of skill level.
-- Todd/Leviathn
Spoken like a true uber-spit-dweeb trying to justify his eze-mode plane. :D
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if i remember right the nits took dam near all their bases back. FOOL
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I thought AAsqueaker quit?
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Originally posted by dedalos
Thats funny, looks like you are describing 110s, 51s, typhis, hurries, nikis, 190s, 190s, 190s, tempests, even 0s will do that in the MA
lol I dunno what 110 you have flown, but the one I fly doesn't have the speed to run away from any fight.
Yes, p51 run away a lot, but I don't tend to run into too many that try to HO. If they are smart they BnZ you.
Most Nikis are almost as dweeby as LA's, meaning HO and Run, but they tend to be fairly easy to kill. I guess because it's a popular noob plane. (likely the next step up from the LA)
Temp's are just lame perk planes, when flying a 110 I tend to die against a Temp if he has alt advantage and is a reasonably good stick. If I'm in a 110 the two planes I dread the most are Spit16's and Temps. Simply because even a noob can be successful in either of them.
Hurri's, I haven't ran into to too many that can run away, they turn too dam good, so they usually don't have to run away, because they can't easily out turn most planes. They also don't need to HO because they turn so good.
The 190's tend to be BnZer's because if they get on the deck they tend to die pretty easy. 190's don't bug me too much, unless it's a alt monkey that constanly tries to BnZ you.
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Originally posted by Grits
Spoken like a true uber-spit-dweeb trying to justify his eze-mode plane. :D
exactly :rofl
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LOL, check my stats, I rarely fly the La7. As for Vans landing AA scalps, plenty of people get kills on us, nothing new there. We land plenty of others scalps too.
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Originally posted by AAolds
I'd put my money on Chicago screwing up most anyone and anything who messed with it.
I'd put my money on Detroit.
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Originally posted by crockett
Should a 110C-4b beat a LA7 or a Nikki in most cases?
Yep, just make sure they never see you coming :rofl
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Originally posted by crockett
lol I dunno what 110 you have flown, but the one I fly doesn't have the speed to run away from any fight.
Didnt you say:
1) LA tries for HO on first pass
2) LA turns once or twice keeps trying to get a HO shot.
Isn't the 110 the best HOing plane ever made by HT?
You think lalas are easy mode. Pick a lala and I ll take a 202. Lets see how easy it really is.
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oooh oooh, perfect opportunity to insert "AH serious buisness"
all in all, I blame the generals for not being able to rally the troops to fight for the cause. Of course its not their fault, it's everone elses.
Just last night I was flying for knights and I hear someone saying how no one works together yadda yadda yadda. I noticed there was a good fight going on over at a different rook base, with bish. Joined rooks for a bit, and low and behold..... another person saying that rooks can't get it together, they don't work together yadda yadda yadda. So by my powers of deduction I can only guess that:
A) bish always work together for lack of proof on that night that they don't.
B) the most likely option that all sides are the same with the only thing making one team better than the other in terms of strat are numbers.
C) telling by the amount of complaints that night, too many people are furballing and not putting enought effort into winning the war. (the horror)
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As near as I can tell everyone is about the same. We were flying Knits last night as the numbers were low, and we got into some knock down drag out brawls taking on the mob.
I had a great time.
There were 5 of us in lower 38s going against the usual mix of LAs, Spits, N1Ks, 51s, 190s etc. Murdr took home 10, Soulyss had 6 but was too shot up and ditched short. I made it back on fumes with 5, Silat had 4 and Shuff had 6 I believe.
We just kep going back and fighting it out. I kinda thought that was what the game was about? Air combat? :)
Between the Snapshot, which was a great time and those fights afterwards in Blue, I was reminded why I like this game so much.
I'd just about kill to have that on the deck, white knuckle fight I had where I actually got out of there with 5 after they ganged me.
They don't happen that often, at least where I'm the last plane in the air :)
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Vanscrew owns AAsqueakers :D
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Vanscrew pwns Squad Hopping, that about covers the topic of "VansCrew Pwnage".
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Originally posted by crockett
For a vet to fly those planes on a regular basis, it's like playing playing Pac Man on Novice. So that's all I'm saying if you are a noob sure fly the easy rides, but if you are a good stick, take a challenge and fly something that's a bit harder to fly. Don't be such a dweeb and quit relying on training wheels.
It's funny reading posts from players crying about a plane like it's the plane telling the pilot how to fly it. The actions of the plane solely depend on the pilot at the controls. If the plane runs, it's the pilot making his plane run. If it HO's, it's the pilot that is making his plane HO.
As for flying EZ-Mode planes, if it's fun for you then all the power to you. Who cares if the Spitfire is an easy and forgiving plane to fly. It was like that in real life, so why should it be in any different in here? And just because a n00b flies a Spitfire, La7 or N1K2 doesn't make him an automatic ace. A n00b is easy to shoot down, regardless of the plane they are in. If you get shot down by a n00b in a 1v1 fight, it wasn't because of the plane he was flying, it was either you're not as good as you thought you were or you seriously messed up. Same applies if you run into a veteran in either of those planes.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Anyone
Vanscrew owns AAsqueakers :D
I'm suddenly overcome with feelings of caring.......:rolleyes:
Stang, you must have been gone for a while or just like rehashing old BS.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
It's funny reading posts from players crying about a plane like it's the plane telling the pilot how to fly it. The actions of the plane solely depend on the pilot at the controls. If the plane runs, it's the pilot making his plane run. If it HO's, it's the pilot that is making his plane HO.
As for flying EZ-Mode planes, if it's fun for you then all the power to you. Who cares if the Spitfire is an easy and forgiving plane to fly. It was like that in real life, so why should it be in any different in here? And just because a n00b flies a Spitfire, La7 or N1K2 doesn't make him an automatic ace. A n00b is easy to shoot down, regardless of the plane they are in. If you get shot down by a n00b in a 1v1 fight, it wasn't because of the plane he was flying, it was either you're not as good as you thought you were or you seriously messed up. Same applies if you run into a veteran in either of those planes.
ack-ack
WOW ... how eloquently true. Well said Ack-Ack.
You should save this in a .doc file and insert it into every friggin' LA-7 ... ez-mode ... waaaa waaa thread from now on.
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i think he wants to fly in AvA but doesnt want to fly alone :huh
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Originally posted by AAolds
LOL, check my stats, I rarely fly the La7. As for Vans landing AA scalps, plenty of people get kills on us, nothing new there. We land plenty of others scalps too.
Its nice to know that most people are so concerned about the Knights. Yeah we are known for several things but one thing is for sure. Most of the noobs that stick around are there to stay. Our squad is built on some good fun people and we take bases. But what I dont see is us ganging with the Bish to take Rook bases. I fight mostly bish. I dont care what my score or what I say I fight. I have seen Bish leave the Rook alone to roll the Knights (dont go there). So can the whine and come and get it. You know where I am. Probably high on your six.
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why disband the knights,then the AA's cant take bases that are undefended.It's amazing with even numbers that it's harder to take a base with out having a 20 or more people on then the other side.Need to think about it.
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Originally posted by VansCrew1
why disband the knights,then the AA's cant take bases that are undefended.It's amazing with even numbers that it's harder to take a base with out having a 20 or more people on then the other side.Need to think about it.
You're so full of it.
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Oh, man, I just got owned. :mad:
-- Todd/Leviathn
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personally i think the knits are the "fighter side" the bish are all the bombers. if the knits really wanted to we would own the bish hands down. i like fightin the bish better then the rooks. if there wasnt the knits there wouldnt be any furballs lol.
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Originally posted by AAolds
You're so full of it.
i love you man :p :p
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im assumin u may b talkin bout the C-hawks and UNFORGIVEN teamin up and mowen yall = )
BigbobCH
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Originally posted by storch
ummm you may want to stay in the cradle. I guess you have never been to chicago. six girls from cicero will conquer all of france in one PMS episode.
Since i am from northern Illinois I would have to put my money on girls from South Holland or Calumet City. Dem beeches are mean.
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Posted by Crockett
Yak is a extremely capable plane, you are right, but it's very limited on ammo. So it does take much more skill to land 5 or 6 kills in a yak vs a spit 16 or a LA7, because you have to have to be a good aim and conserve your ammo.
Oh and I'm not crying about anything. I'm just stating a fact that good sticks that fly those planes are flying in EZ mode and they know it. All I'm saying is once you are good enough, take the training wheels off..
I don't think you even know what a LA is if you don't think it has a limited ammo load, to pull in multiple kills regularly with it you have to have good gunnery. I get into really good fights with it because it is great for mixing it up and I don't like dropping into fights and then climbing out like people that fly heavy planes have to. Also I can keep people from running away from a fight. Nor do I think that you are killing LAs or anything else very often in a furball with a ME-110, sorry not buying it.
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HELLO AGAIN CROCKETT
Tell me if you are truly pure death in the more mediocure planes then why does it bother you so much that people like to fly LAs.
Also if you would like to pay my bill I would be more than happy to fly a plane of your choosing, heck I will even fly it the way you want me to which would probably straight and slow so you would have a chance to shoot me down in your ME-110.
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In case nobody has noticed, Crockett's e-peen is much larger anybody else's.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Way, way bigger than SkyRock's.
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Bout the only thing I find annoying about the Lalas is their acceleration.
It's not the La-7 I am concerned about..it's the evasives I have to make
allowing his herd of buddies to pigpile my bird. On the plus side, if you get
two guys who know what they're doing trying to egress a fight, a rolling
retreat is fun and can lead to some fun LA-7 kills.
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Originally posted by Nimrod45
I don't think you even know what a LA is if you don't think it has a limited ammo load, to pull in multiple kills regularly with it you have to have good gunnery. I get into really good fights with it because it is great for mixing it up and I don't like dropping into fights and then climbing out like people that fly heavy planes have to. Also I can keep people from running away from a fight. Nor do I think that you are killing LAs or anything else very often in a furball with a ME-110, sorry not buying it.
If you take the bigger gun package it has plenty of ammo.
You don't buy that I fly a 110 in a furball? How about this, just filmed it tonight.
Film (http://www.wargamerx.com/temp/110-at-28.ahf)
I got almost 600 kills last tour in a 110. You can check the stats and will see, the majority of them were fighter kills.
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Originally posted by Nimrod45
HELLO AGAIN CROCKETT
Tell me if you are truly pure death in the more mediocure planes then why does it bother you so much that people like to fly LAs.
Also if you would like to pay my bill I would be more than happy to fly a plane of your choosing, heck I will even fly it the way you want me to which would probably straight and slow so you would have a chance to shoot me down in your ME-110.
The planes them selves don't bug me.. it's the guys whom fly them. Typically the ones you have to chase when they run away, then come back after you turn around and are busy with someone else.
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Originally posted by Stang
Way, way bigger than SkyRock's.
Oh, I dunno about that.. Yea don't see me *****ing at people in the game and trying to get them to DA every 5 mins. I do a little antagonizing of the other countries in 200 sometimes, to get them riled up. However other than that I keep it to the forums, nothing more than having a little fun.
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That was a very nice takeoff in your film, and a nice climb to alt, but, um, what else? :)
(I think you uploaded the wrong one :D )
Edit - trying to double check it to see that there's not something going on with film viewer, and having all sorts of problems with crashes doing so. If I made the wrong call, my bad. Anyway, off to Virginia, so until later all :)
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Posted by Crockett
If you take the bigger gun package it has plenty of ammo.
You don't buy that I fly a 110 in a furball? How about this, just filmed it tonight.
Film
I got almost 600 kills last tour in a 110. You can check the stats and will see, the majority of them were fighter kills.
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I beleive that you might fly it in a furball but I don't beleive that you got 600 kills and kept a 1.7 kill to death rate doing it, sorry. Booming and zooming or furballing?
And you are right I do think the LA has plenty of ammo in either configeration if you use good gunnery, but you can't just spray and pray with it and get kills either.
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Originally posted by LYNX
Dantoo is your man shame about the tactics.
Yeah, the rook way is so much more sophisticated -
(http://www.eel.homechoice.co.uk/ahss76.jpg)
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(http://www.eel.homechoice.co.uk/ahss77.jpg)
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JESUS NIMROD USE THE BLOODY QUOTE BUTTON!
Edit: As for the AA's I had real fun fighting all 5 of you guys in the DA at once. I was really hoping that you guys had some real class. But with posts like this even if it is ment for lols or being serious really does not make you guys a shining star in my book anymore.
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Alternatively, maybe people fly what's fun for them regardless of skill level.
-- Todd/Leviathn
Crazy talk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:noid
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If the "I always switch to the side with the LOWEST numbers" (in LW Arenas) crowd practiced what they preached...they would always fly Knight. but they don't.
Some of us do.
Country Kills As Kills Of
Bishop 0 1
Knight 26 1
Rook 2 26
Historically, most of my "friends" fly rook. Last few tours I have been flying w/ the team that has the fewest numbers.
The method is easy: Log in, check numbers, switch sides accordingly if needed, launch at biggest dar bar.
Steve
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Doing the low number bit too.
Country Kills As Kills Of
Bishop 0 19
Knight 27 8
Rook 8 8
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Originally posted by DamnedRen
You also see it when 10 bish end up on the six of some poor dude who was in a good fight, low. Imagine 10 guys, falling over themselves for that one itty, bitty kill. :lol
Hmm... I'm a Bish and this happens to me all the time. So are you saying the Knits and Rooks don't do this? What a crock of sh**.
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How soon people forget.
ENY was put in place because the KNIGHTS had huge numbers, and were rolling every map.
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Country Kills As Kills Of
Bishop 0 240
Knight 449 0
Rook 0 209
About even with me.Bish dont run as much thow :D :D.
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Originally posted by WMLute
How soon people forget.
ENY was put in place because the KNIGHTS had huge numbers, and were rolling every map.
well take ENY out now.If thats the case.We geting stomped 20-30+ people per night.
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Originally posted by SAS_KID
Edit: As for the AA's I had real fun fighting all 5 of you guys in the DA at once. I was really hoping that you guys had some real class. But with posts like this even if it is ment for lols or being serious really does not make you guys a shining star in my book anymore.
Get over yourself and dont put my squad into this. The initial post is my thoughts and not that of the AArch AAngelz. If your opinion of the squad is so easily swayed.... your not much of a star in my book either.
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Originally posted by VansCrew1
well take ENY out now.If thats the case.We geting stomped 20-30+ people per night.
My point is it's cyclical.
Give it a few months and the knit's will have the high #'s.
Then the bish or rooks etc...
It has always been like this.
One reason the knit's always seem to "loose" is they are not much on "hoarding" up. There are many "lone wolfs" types on knits, and it's always been such. I can't count how many times some knit says "we are loosing again" and I think hmmm... not where i'm at. I've killed 30 nme vs one death and am kickin' tookus.
I think many knits are more focused on individual fights as opposed to "winning the war". Personally, I could care less about "winning the war", and I know a lot of knits hold the same opinion. Don't get me wrong, I dig a good base capture, but I personally pref. when the base is well defended. Unopposed base taking, or when you have overwhelming #'s is boooooring.
Define "winning" anyway? 20 Bish hoard a field vs. 10 knits and die in droves 10 times over, but eventually capture the base. 200 Bish deaths vs. say 50 Knit.
Who really "won" there?
Just my opinion...
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Originally posted by WMLute
Define "winning" anyway? 20 Bish hoard a field vs. 10 knits and die in droves 10 times over, but eventually capture the base. 200 Bish deaths vs. say 50 Knit.
Who really "won" there?
That's the wonderful thing in this game: Everyone can set his goals individually, and everyone can win.. in a way.
In you example the Bish have "won" - they got the base capture
The Knit's have won - they inflicted heavy losses on their enemy.
And probably Rooks won too, resetting the map in the meantime ;)
BTW, if this was a real war simulation and we really had all those "resources" Bonaparte jr. is always talking about, every Bish steamrolling horde would quickly run dry, considering the heavy losses they have to sustain...
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Originally posted by Vudak
That was a very nice takeoff in your film, and a nice climb to alt, but, um, what else? :)
(I think you uploaded the wrong one :D )
Edit - trying to double check it to see that there's not something going on with film viewer, and having all sorts of problems with crashes doing so. If I made the wrong call, my bad. Anyway, off to Virginia, so until later all :)
Wow, I didn't think 3.5k was alt in this game.. Next time, I'll remember to bring my oxygen mask. :lol
I assume you didn't see me fly around at a base that was already de-acked by an enemy attacking via a CV fleet. Shoot down 4 fighters and a LVT then land the kills, in my 110 that I apparntly never fly in a furball.
Wasn't anything spectactular, but since you don't belive I do it, I figured I'd share a film of it. The film viewer has been messed up and crashing this month, so I don't have a bunch of films to show off. Hower I think that film should show you, that I do fly the 110 in furballs.
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Originally posted by Nimrod45
I beleive that you might fly it in a furball but I don't beleive that you got 600 kills and kept a 1.7 kill to death rate doing it, sorry. Booming and zooming or furballing?
And you are right I do think the LA has plenty of ammo in either configeration if you use good gunnery, but you can't just spray and pray with it and get kills either.
I do both, the 110 is a very hard plane to keep your E in, it just doesn't pull back up to alt like most fighters do. I tend to just go 100% fuel and climb out to the 15k range and do some BnZ's untill I'm down to around 50% fuel. Once I'm in the 50% range I'm normally much closer to the deck in the action.
Of course you can't fly the plane like a A6m in the furball, as there is no possiable way to do that. The plane handles like a brick with wings and tend to flop around a lot. You have to fly it more like a P38 and try to keep your speed up, so it's just a diffrent kind of flying.
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LOL Crockett
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Dang Cherry pickin Hoin ME-110 drivers
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Originally posted by Nimrod45
Dang Cherry pickin Hoin ME-110 drivers
lol well at least it's no some Lgay :D
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Originally posted by crockett
lol well at least it's no some Lgay :D
I am sorry to have continued to antagonize you.
I see now that you are instant death in an ME-110 unless the oponent is in a LA-7 which makes anyone who flys it instantly unbeatable and is so easy that you can go to the refrigerator to get a beer and it will continue to HO everything in sight like some evil grinding force.
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Originally posted by Nimrod45
I am sorry to have continued to antagonize you.
I see now that you are instant death in an ME-110 unless the oponent is in a LA-7 which makes anyone who flys it instantly unbeatable and is so easy that you can go to the refrigerator to get a beer and it will continue to HO everything in sight like some evil grinding force.
That is what the wife is for in my panzer. I get the beer while I make her drive. I instruct her to shoot anything that moves. Can't have her spillin' the suds!!:noid
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Originally posted by crockett
I don't know about disbanding any country, but I do think it would be more fun with just two. I think it would keep make the game more like a real war.
Oh, you mean like WW2? Help me out here, I forget, what were the two countries that fought in that one?:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by FBBone
Oh, you mean like WW2? Help me out here, I forget, what were the two countries that fought in that one?:rolleyes:
LOL.
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Originally posted by FBBone
Oh, you mean like WW2? Help me out here, I forget, what were the two countries that fought in that one?:rolleyes:
There of course were not only two countries, but there was only two sides. Axis vs Allies. It wasn't Axis vs Allies vs Knights (Rooks of course are the Allies while the Bish are the dirty Axis). :D
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Yes please, lets make it a 2 sided battle.
These days our choices seem to be:
1. Be on the receiving end of the hoard
2. dealing with a 15+ eny (giving end of the hoard)
3. flying in the mid/early war arena with a total of 40 people online
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Originally posted by GlassJaw
Yes please, lets make it a 2 sided battle.
And one side can fly only Allied aircraft and one side only Axis aircraft.
Two sided battle means one side with lots of people and one side with few people because ya gotta be on the winning side ya know. :t
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the reason i hate knight is they never work together... its rediculous.... we will hvae 100+ ppl on and we will put a mission up, 5 ppl will join because ppl want to furball somewhere, i remember 1 day i got yelled at cause i flattend a FH and ppl were made cause furball ended, get the F over it.
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redman, I believe it's the same for all country's. Rooks do this sometimes (unless its a DRED mission :) ) and I'm not sure if it happens with bish I never fly bish. It just happens on certain days. Some days one country gets the missions going and the others don't. Then the next day its the other way around.
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Originally posted by WMLute
How soon people forget.
ENY was put in place because the KNIGHTS had huge numbers, and were rolling every map.
ACTUALLY, the ENY system was envisioned and implemented to counter the "RJO". Bishops and Knights cried the loudest for it, they got it and now they ironically whine the loudest about it. I've rarely been touched by ENY, I fly "crappy planes" planes(http://img116.exs.cx/img116/8935/s6vhaha.gif).
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Originally posted by crockett
I don't know about disbanding any country, but I do think it would be more fun with just two. I think it would keep make the game more like a real war.
Humm.... What about adding a fourth country! Maybe the PAWNS :lol :rofl :t
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And RJO started because it was the rooks who were badly outnumberd all the time. I was a rook through all of that, was actually a lot of fun. It's a ton of fun, culling the horde... err herd.
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Originally posted by crockett
I don't know about disbanding any country, but I do think it would be more fun with just two.
Already have this on a nightly basis. The side with the lowest numbers gets tag teamed. While the other 2 have token skirmishes.
Bronk
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
And RJO started because it was the rooks who were badly outnumberd all the time. I was a rook through all of that, was actually a lot of fun. It's a ton of fun, culling the horde... err herd.
:aok :noid
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Originally posted by redman555
the reason i hate knight is they never work together... its rediculous.... we will hvae 100+ ppl on and we will put a mission up, 5 ppl will join because ppl want to furball somewhere, i remember 1 day i got yelled at cause i flattend a FH and ppl were made cause furball ended, get the F over it.
I just have to wonder why you can't get folks to join ur "mizzuns" with an
attitude like that :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
ACTUALLY, the ENY system was envisioned and implemented to counter the "RJO". Bishops and Knights cried the loudest for it, they got it and now they ironically whine the loudest about it. I've rarely been touched by ENY, I fly "crappy planes" planes(http://img116.exs.cx/img116/8935/s6vhaha.gif).
Not as I remember it.
RJO was what? On Sundays?
When ENY was started, the Knit's had huuuge #'s and had for a few months.
Crazy stupid #'s IIRC.
Granted, i'm getting old, so the ole' memory might be gettin' fuzzy.
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Seems to me ENY is amongst other things in effect to balance out the game.
Make it a 2country war and scrap ENY. Everyone is then happy, apart from those who were knights cos they have allegiance to a chess piece, but theres only every about 3 knights on anyway so no big loss. :)