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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Saxman on September 07, 2007, 02:25:04 PM

Title: Witch Hunts
Post by: Saxman on September 07, 2007, 02:25:04 PM
Thank you VERY much Jose Canseco. You've stirred up a frenzy not seen since Salem c.17th Century and have the media leaping at shadows.

For those who HAVEN'T heard, the media has decided to target Cardinals comeback kid Rick Ankiel.

In 2004, ************************FOR LEGITIMATE MEDICAL REASONS WITH A LEGAL PRESCRIPTION BY A LEGITIMATE PHYSICIAN************************[/i] (it seems I must do something drastic to call attention to this DOCUMENTED PAPER-TRAIL FACT, because no one else either cares or notices) Rick Ankiel received HGH over a period of eight months. At the time, HGH was not a banned substance by baseball. However after the new agreements in place banned the substance, Ankiel stopped receiving the supplement.

Flash-forward three years. Ankiel's return has provided a boost to a Cardinals team that had been struggling to stay alive in the playoff hunt, and helped put them back into a position to make a run for the postseason. For the first time in several years Ankiel is healthy, both physically (he missed all of 2006 due to injury) and mentally (his struggles over control as a pitcher was a heavy burden, and he was prepared to quit outright). Yet why, just NOW, is this suddenly a story? Why should this cast a pall over this comeback, which is hardly unprecedented in baseball history (the Babe himself was once a dominant pitcher who transitioned to the outfield).

The key points that the media has conveniently swept under the rug in their "fair and balanced" reporting:

* Ankiel was prescribed HGH in 2004, when he was struggling with injuries (this may have been the year he underwent Tommy John surgery, or was attempting to recover from it, I'll have to check into it to be certain). This was a LEGAL PRESCRIPTION by a licensed physician for a LEGITIMATE MEDICAL PURPOSE. Ankiel is under NO legal investigation over the obtaining of HGH.

* At the time of the prescription, Ankiel was still pitching. There was clearly no performance enhancement provided, because he never recovered his pre-meltdown 2000 form (he last pitched in the Majors in 2005, which though he largely recovered from wildness, he was no longer the dominant power-lefty he once was).

* HGH, at the time, was not a banned substance.

* Even as a pitcher, Ankiel showed signs of being a dangerous hitter. His early attempts at switching to the outfield featured performance marred by injury. 2007 is the first time he has been fully healthy since the switch to the new position.

* Physically, Ankiel shows little change in his body since 2000. Unlike some OTHER players under notable and more valid suspicion *cough*BARRY*cough*

* No shady personal trainers or black market deals were involved. Everything was done above-board.

There IS no story here, except for the fact the media is so hungry for controversy they're trying to find it where they have NO EVIDENCE it exists. Give me solid, physical PROOF that Ankiel continued receiving the supplement after the ban was put into place.

The TRUE let down of the baseball feel-good story of the year is not the allegations against Ankiel, but the MEDIA PARASITES latched onto the attention-starved ravings of a washup who apparently isn't satisfied with just wrecking his OWN career.
Title: With Hunts
Post by: Airscrew on September 07, 2007, 02:33:06 PM
With Hunts or Witch Hunts?
Title: With Hunts
Post by: Saxman on September 07, 2007, 02:35:46 PM
Witch. Oddly, it didn't fix the subject when I edited it. Even though it shows it correctly in the thread itself.
Title: With Hunts
Post by: skernsk on September 07, 2007, 02:43:59 PM
I think there should be a media story on how bias and vindictive the media is.  That there would be a good read.

I took steroids once for an asthma attack.  It was prescribed and to be used when I needed to.  If I was in the major leagues would I be banned?
Title: With Hunts
Post by: Saxman on September 07, 2007, 02:52:32 PM
Suspended if tested positive. 50 games first suspension, I believe. I also don't think they accept medicinal usage anymore. This was NOT the case in 2004, where HGH wasn't even banned.
Title: With Hunts
Post by: john9001 on September 07, 2007, 03:09:23 PM
wath a with hunt?
Title: With Hunts
Post by: Masherbrum on September 07, 2007, 03:32:02 PM
MLB has it's scapegoat to let it's "Poster Boy Barry Bonds" off of the hook.   His name Rick Ankiel.
Title: With Hunts
Post by: SIK1 on September 07, 2007, 05:16:52 PM
Jose Conseco is a tool
Title: With Hunts
Post by: Saxman on September 07, 2007, 05:44:57 PM
Meanwhile, the New York media is too busy bending over so Giambi can cram his confession up their collective tulips to even CONSIDER the meaning of "fair and balanced."

Correction to the above:

Ankiel's Tommy John was in 2003, the year before. However, HGH greatly assists in the production of collagen, which is important in recovery from that type of surgery.

In 2004, the year Ankiel was prescribed HGH, in five relief innings with the Major League club he posted a 5.40 ERA. Some enhancement. In 2005 he began the switch to the outfield after the wildness returned, posting promising hitting stats, before being shut down again in 2006 with a knee injury.
Title: With Hunts
Post by: Meatwad on September 07, 2007, 06:47:36 PM
with Hunt = An object that you add Hunts BBQ sauce to
Title: With Hunts
Post by: Holden McGroin on September 07, 2007, 06:55:05 PM
What's with all this (gasp I'm going to use quotes) "fair and balanced" garbage?

That is associated with Fox News and I have seen the NY Daily News, AP, SI, and a whole lot of other press outlets cover this.

None of them claim to be fair and balanced.
Title: With Hunts
Post by: AWMac on September 07, 2007, 08:40:55 PM
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Originally posted by Meatwad
with Hunt = An object that you add Hunts BBQ sauce to


No no nooooo....

with hunts... Kerry lisps...
(http://www.davidstuff.com/opinion/tu-heinz.jpg)
Boycott Catsup!!!
Title: With Hunts
Post by: Saxman on September 07, 2007, 08:40:59 PM
NY Daily News started it.
Title: Funny
Post by: TalonX on September 07, 2007, 08:42:12 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
wath a with hunt?



This guy cracks me up.
Title: With Hunts
Post by: vorticon on September 07, 2007, 08:52:39 PM
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Originally posted by Saxman
Meanwhile, the New York media is too busy bending over so Giambi can cram his confession up their collective tulips to even CONSIDER the meaning of "fair and balanced."
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i'd  prefer facts and the truth, thank you very much.